For the future, if you don't already have waterproof shoes, I recommend picking up a pair of water-resistant construction boots and some cushy insoles if you can afford it. I bought some Wolverines from Amazon (thanks again) years ago for work site visits and now I just wear them every time it rains. Being able to walk through 3-5" of water with dry feet and no fear is pretty nice.
I picked up a pair like that from a Army Surplus store in Simi Valley for $20 and I had to double take at the deal. I didn’t need them at that moment nor were they on my wishlist but I just couldn’t believe the price so I had to nab em.
“Officially” no. Amazon made the DSP system so they won’t be legally held responsible and make it almost impossible for drivers to unionize. But they have full control of everything. The NLRB has determined they are co-employer which Amazon is fighting it in the courts. The ones that are actually screwed are the flexed drivers. They are self-contracted.
Yup. My in-laws up in the Valley have said "if it's too rainy on Christmas Eve, we can do a rain check, no worries." My parents up in Apple Valley have said "eh you should be fine, they won't close the pass." Sigh. My brother is also in town and wanting to do things, when really I'd just rather stay at home and enjoy the rest.
Ughhhh my mom is in Jurupa and I have to head up to Apple Valley tomorrow so I’m thinking about just staying at her house but I don’t want to stay for 3 days to wait the rain out 😢 good luck friend!
Ultimately, it’s up to you and what you’re comfortable with. It’s your life/safety. Don’t light yourself on fire to keep other people warm, or whatever that saying is lol.
My concern with the heavy rain in the grape vine is that you can’t see the lanes very well. The once you descend into the valley, there is potentially heavy fog.
Notice how it’s always the same 3 or 4 places where freeways flood every year? If we didn’t have a ‘nothing I can do’ local and state government we’d had them fixed decades ago.
It’s complicated. The newer freeways up in the north and the 105 are generally pretty good. The older freeways have known flooding issues, as well as a stretch of the 5 freeway. CHP does a generally good job blocking the trouble areas but as another commented, our local and state governments have done little to address it.
The flow of commerce is essential, so business routes and corridors tend to have the best water irrigation. But they also move bigass trucks, small little cars may vary.
Obviously places like the grapevine get wrecked but they just haven’t spent enough money to conquer the terrain lol
I’m supposed to drive to Northern California on Christmas Eve, but now I’m most likely not going. I don’t want to drive in extreme weather for 5+ hours.
Correct. Forecasters provide worst possible scenario if all the ingredients come together. If they do, we’ll see those figures, but it’s not necessarily true we’ll get THAT much. They do this so we’re prepared.
The National Weather Service for Los Angeles is predicting 4-8 inches for the coasts and valley areas. Please note that the forecast may change as we approach the date. The main thing to keep in mind is to prepare for the higher-end scenarios, but be aware that these scenarios have a lower probability of occurring. I would say just prepare for the worst, that way you're not caught off guard. And if it doesn't rain a lot, atleast you were prepared
Thanks for showing these. I'm also a weather enthusiast, and always try to get people to just read the forecast discussions. Yeah, the NWS desperately needs to update their site, but it by far has the best weather information.
This'll be a fun storm for me. I'm in a foothill town, so my town's distributing free sandbags.
Dangerous amount of rainfall, week of Christmas, entire rest of the company working remote….my boss: “everybody come in! Can’t wait to see those faces!”
My work (offices in LA and OC) is also being extremely stubborn about it as well because they just implemented mandatory 5 days in office this month. I'm putting up a fight to let us work from home on Wednesday but it's falling on deaf ears.
Absolutely pointless, the entire office is pointless for so many people and the added fact of come sit in the office just to do what you could do at home in the middle of a major storm shows they value your life as nothing.
was supposed to drive to Norcal to visit my family tomorrow morning but I just decided I’m going to put myself first and just not go. bummer but I hate driving 6 hours in the rain.
exactly why I don’t want to risk it. I’ve been trapped in the grapevine while a helicopter landed to transport someone after an accident. worst traffic of my life.
We just cancelled our plans to drive to Vegas. We have a 7 month old, that drive is usually taking us 7 hours as it is with all the stops....add in holiday traffic, and now a storm?? HARD PASS! Not worth it to spend 8+ hours in the car each way...
Some family in Oregon were hit by the storm headed our way. Their power went out 2 days in a row for several hours. It always rains there but this storm is bad.
Good idea to be prepared. Batteries and candles on hand. Freeze water bottles or pack bags of ice to help keep freezer cool just in case. Keep your animals inside and safe!
I’m very excited for this actually. The amount of haze lately has been too much for me. It’ll be nice to have a perfect excuse to stay home on Christmas too. Looking forward to doing some photography of the skyline as well once the storm passes.
Other than mudslides in burn areas our city drainage isn't built for tons of water. I can think of several intersections near my house that I'll be avoiding on heavy rain days due to flooding.
I hate those who are downplaying this event. And also gas lighting this storm as 'just rain.' it's not NORMAL for that amount of rain to dumb over a course of 24 hours.
Change your windshield wipers if they need it. Drive slower. Check your tires to make sure they're not bald. I had a good friend die about a month ago in a car accident on a rainy day. Oh and wear your seatbelt, I had a cousin die about 2 years ago because he got into an accident and wasn't wearing his seatbelt.
The important thing is that rainfall totals are much more accurate when averaged over a longer period of time. Don't pay attention to the small timescale stuff like "its gonna rain from 4 until 6, then dry for a few hours then more rain". That stuff is wildly unpredictable but longterm inch total predictions are where to keep your eyes on. Some models are more conservative like NOAA, but some work woth the worst case which greatly overestimate.
Over the course of several days this is still mostly gonna be light to medium rain, just for many hours. Nothing torrential.
Thats over several days. 7.5" over 5 days is 1.5" per day. Thats not an overwhelming large average on any single day, but the forecast has around 3" on xmas, which is where the problem will be. Thats too much water for the land to handle in such a short time span. This is the impact of atmospheric rivers and is what we experienced in November. (Source). Those rainfall totals were terrible for the area. Again, just too much water in such a short amount of time.
yay!!!! i garden so we love this rain, keep it coming. my rain barrels are half empty so we won’t be able to collect as much as the previous two storms.
I deliver storage units. Nobody really needs one on Christmas eve and nobody needs one picked up that day either. I'm still scheduled. Business as usual. In heavy rain. In the worst traffic. It's just dangerous all around and the risk to reward ratio is way off.
We're supposed to drive down from the Bay Area on Wednesday. My partner, born and raised in LA, is not worried about the Grapevine and everything else, though we are keeping an eye on it. I'm trying to be sanguine and trusting about it but it seems things are escalating?
As a DA for Amazon , it’s going to be a fun week of delivering 🙃
Thank you for your service.
For the future, if you don't already have waterproof shoes, I recommend picking up a pair of water-resistant construction boots and some cushy insoles if you can afford it. I bought some Wolverines from Amazon (thanks again) years ago for work site visits and now I just wear them every time it rains. Being able to walk through 3-5" of water with dry feet and no fear is pretty nice.
I’m all set on the boots…one thing Amazon does offer the DA is a $125 credit on Zappos every year.
I picked up a pair like that from a Army Surplus store in Simi Valley for $20 and I had to double take at the deal. I didn’t need them at that moment nor were they on my wishlist but I just couldn’t believe the price so I had to nab em.
Amazon has their own District Attorney? These mega corporations are getting out of hand…
Arasaka be like
lol…
Thank you for your service
Omg please stay safe. Hopefully streets are clear of traffic for you guys doing the lords work this week. 🥹
Unionize
Easier said then done. It’s a long up hill legal battle.
do you all actually work for Amazon? I thought most deliveries were just sub-contractors for some random LLC?
“Officially” no. Amazon made the DSP system so they won’t be legally held responsible and make it almost impossible for drivers to unionize. But they have full control of everything. The NLRB has determined they are co-employer which Amazon is fighting it in the courts. The ones that are actually screwed are the flexed drivers. They are self-contracted.
Thanks for your service!!!
🫡 lol
Fuck me we are driving to SD from LA for Xmas - the 5 should be fun ...
This rain is historic so good luck.
More historic than rain in Los Angeles in 2023?
Don't you put that evil on us
See you in the flood!
For all the weather junkies.... YT California weather watch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7COCnmThTFc
Also, Daniel Swain’s livestreams (his new one starts at noon) and blog posts.
Thank you for sharing, that was really cool!
He’s great
His awesome and actually saved me when preparing for storms!
The bald tires and dry rotted wiper crew represent! It’s your time to shine.
don't forget about the busted headlight/taillight crew too! also their time to (not) shine
Don't threaten me with a good time
And I have to drive on Xmas. So much fun.
I have to be at LAX Christmas morning for a flight
I have an international flight in the evening.
Yeah I'm driving out of state to visit family. Gonna keep a close eye on this
If you can you should leave today or tomorrow morning the latest.
Yup. My in-laws up in the Valley have said "if it's too rainy on Christmas Eve, we can do a rain check, no worries." My parents up in Apple Valley have said "eh you should be fine, they won't close the pass." Sigh. My brother is also in town and wanting to do things, when really I'd just rather stay at home and enjoy the rest.
My dad called me yesterday and said do not drive in this weather just for Christmas. We will do something in January.
Ughhhh my mom is in Jurupa and I have to head up to Apple Valley tomorrow so I’m thinking about just staying at her house but I don’t want to stay for 3 days to wait the rain out 😢 good luck friend!
Ultimately, it’s up to you and what you’re comfortable with. It’s your life/safety. Don’t light yourself on fire to keep other people warm, or whatever that saying is lol.
I’m driving to Utah on Christmas Day 🙃
safe travels
safe driving yall
Serious question: is it dangerous to be driving through the Grapevine on Christmas Eve with this rain forecast? Looks pretty heavy rain on Wednesday.
My concern with the heavy rain in the grape vine is that you can’t see the lanes very well. The once you descend into the valley, there is potentially heavy fog.
The problem with the grapevine is not only can you get bad rain you can get fog in low clouds.
I've had to go over the grapevine or there was like 15 car pile up on the northbound and I had to crawl down and a side street 5 mph.
At least the snow levels will be high enough that you won't have to deal with that.
Avoid the highways! But safe travels, either way!
Highways have better irrigation and much lower deaths per 100k miles traveled compared to surface roads.
Traveling out of state but avoid highways??
Yeah, just take the surface streets
I’ve always wanted to drive Las Vegas Blvd from the CA boarder into the city.
Does this apply to LA though? Our freeways are very flooded when it rains.
Notice how it’s always the same 3 or 4 places where freeways flood every year? If we didn’t have a ‘nothing I can do’ local and state government we’d had them fixed decades ago.
It’s complicated. The newer freeways up in the north and the 105 are generally pretty good. The older freeways have known flooding issues, as well as a stretch of the 5 freeway. CHP does a generally good job blocking the trouble areas but as another commented, our local and state governments have done little to address it.
The flow of commerce is essential, so business routes and corridors tend to have the best water irrigation. But they also move bigass trucks, small little cars may vary.
Obviously places like the grapevine get wrecked but they just haven’t spent enough money to conquer the terrain lol
Same I’m using the streets
I’m supposed to drive to Northern California on Christmas Eve, but now I’m most likely not going. I don’t want to drive in extreme weather for 5+ hours.
Yeah better not, that’s exactly when we are expected to get the heaviest rainfall.
I’m going to see how it looks Christmas morning and go from there.
These numbers come from a single run of weather models. The ensembles, which are averages of several runs, show a more accurate picture. Latest ensemble run of the European model https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/?model=eps®ion=us&pkg=apcpn&runtime=2025122206&fh=12
I'm a weather enthusiast, so I enjoy reading these forecast discussions. I would recommend reading them to get a clearer picture on the forecast https://forecast.weather.gov/product.php?site=SGX&issuedby=LOX&product=AFD&format=CI&version=1&glossary=1
Correct. Forecasters provide worst possible scenario if all the ingredients come together. If they do, we’ll see those figures, but it’s not necessarily true we’ll get THAT much. They do this so we’re prepared.
So……what should we expect then?
The National Weather Service for Los Angeles is predicting 4-8 inches for the coasts and valley areas. Please note that the forecast may change as we approach the date. The main thing to keep in mind is to prepare for the higher-end scenarios, but be aware that these scenarios have a lower probability of occurring. I would say just prepare for the worst, that way you're not caught off guard. And if it doesn't rain a lot, atleast you were prepared
So 6 or 7 inches?
6 or 7 inches is the high end, low probability, more likely 3-5 inches
My girlfriend says that's plenty
Yeah. 3-5 is more than enough
It’s not the size of the rain fall, it’s the motion of the landslides
Can confirm.
Hey noowwwwwwwwww
You’re an all-star!
So.. 3- 7 inches. Fuck it 2-8 just to be safe.
Plan for both. rather have it and not need it than need it and not have it.
Got it ty!
So no rain at all or a foot of rain to cover all the possibilities 😁
That will vary depending on where in SoCal you are. Fingers crossed it’s on the low end by me.
Yep, on the national weather discussion, they mention 4-8 inches for the coast and valleys, but as you mentioned, it depends on where you live.
Eeee - that’s a lot on the coast.
Sorry.
No you aren't. Keep this shit... anywhere else.
Heh. You clearly don’t have kids.
Who needs them when stupid adults post the same shit.
Thanks for showing these. I'm also a weather enthusiast, and always try to get people to just read the forecast discussions. Yeah, the NWS desperately needs to update their site, but it by far has the best weather information.
This'll be a fun storm for me. I'm in a foothill town, so my town's distributing free sandbags.
As we all love to say, “we really need it”
The plants are gonna love it
I just finished planting a veggie garden yesterday, and now I'm scrambling to find a way to protect my little sproutlings from being pummeled 😩
Dangerous amount of rainfall, week of Christmas, entire rest of the company working remote….my boss: “everybody come in! Can’t wait to see those faces!”
My work (offices in LA and OC) is also being extremely stubborn about it as well because they just implemented mandatory 5 days in office this month. I'm putting up a fight to let us work from home on Wednesday but it's falling on deaf ears.
Absolutely pointless, the entire office is pointless for so many people and the added fact of come sit in the office just to do what you could do at home in the middle of a major storm shows they value your life as nothing.
The president of your company really needs to put their foot down and make the WFH call for everyone
Great, the interior of my apartment will be flooded and maintenance won't respond because it's a holiday!
was supposed to drive to Norcal to visit my family tomorrow morning but I just decided I’m going to put myself first and just not go. bummer but I hate driving 6 hours in the rain.
It could have easily ended up being way more than 6 hours since there will probably unfortunately be accidents and delays
exactly why I don’t want to risk it. I’ve been trapped in the grapevine while a helicopter landed to transport someone after an accident. worst traffic of my life.
Yeah man, I’m supposed to drive the 101 to Oxnard on Wednesday and I’m currently pulling out all the stops with my car mates to get it cancelled, lol
Amtrak services many cities in NorCal, you could check out their schedule
I have a 70lbs dog :(
But it looks like the rain is starting Wednesday??
I meant Wednesday my bad, was going to leave at 3-4am Wed
Oof, yeah..better to be safe. Happy holidays
We just cancelled our plans to drive to Vegas. We have a 7 month old, that drive is usually taking us 7 hours as it is with all the stops....add in holiday traffic, and now a storm?? HARD PASS! Not worth it to spend 8+ hours in the car each way...
Sorry bro. But honestly, a safe decision.
I’m planning to drive down to San Diego on Christmas Day but now rethinking it 🤔
Amtrak runs a whole bunch of trains to San Diego on Christmas, you can check out their schedule
I second Amtrak. Metrolink and San Diego's Coaster also meet up in Oceanside, if you want additional options.
Damn I thought I was gonna get a break from the rain coming home for Christmas lmao
Same lol
I do need a car wash badly
Thank god I love a rainy holiday
I think it’s gonna be Biblical floods in some places. Praying everyone has a good and safe Christmas.
A friend was posting the other day saying that, if you can, just stay home.
We stocked up on food and just signed up for the Criterion Collection steaming service so we have lots of movies to watch.
Getting the Criterion Channel is the best decision you have made my friend. Such a good service.
dang it and i JUST washed my car on Sat 😂
Thank you!
We appreciate your sacrifice.
This is the rinse.
So your the one to blame
This is all your fault
Some family in Oregon were hit by the storm headed our way. Their power went out 2 days in a row for several hours. It always rains there but this storm is bad.
Good idea to be prepared. Batteries and candles on hand. Freeze water bottles or pack bags of ice to help keep freezer cool just in case. Keep your animals inside and safe!
Does anybody know of any LA River Livestreams?
This is the only one I know: https://metabolicstudio.org/bending-the-river
I hope everyone else is safe. I am staying home
I’m very excited for this actually. The amount of haze lately has been too much for me. It’ll be nice to have a perfect excuse to stay home on Christmas too. Looking forward to doing some photography of the skyline as well once the storm passes.
I still find it weird that so many people are scared to drive in the rain.
It’s mainly because of all the idiot drivers you have to watch out for and our streets flood like crazy making it a hazard
Makes sense
Man I keep waiting for the "nevermind this is going away" news and it doesn't seem to be coming.
Wife is stocking up on groceries today so we won’t have to go out till this storm passes.
Everyone be safe out there.
What are the perils of too much rain there? Floods?
Mudslides because of recent fires.
Thanks!
Flood, mudslides, wash outs, downed trees and power lines, people needing rescue from the rivers, etc. One of 3 roads to Big Bear was taken out a couple months ago. https://www.reddit.com/r/bigbear/s/0pa8LXdzDw. https://youtu.be/1VQX0Kg66hk
Mudslides.
Other than mudslides in burn areas our city drainage isn't built for tons of water. I can think of several intersections near my house that I'll be avoiding on heavy rain days due to flooding.
Ahhh. Ty
if natural rain touches botox or lip fillers it will explode
Omg the west side will need FEMA!
Good.
Learn from what happened up here in nor cal yesterday.
That, being?
The 101 flooded in Mendocino, lots of Redding and South Shasta county flooded and just about everywhere north of Sonoma County was completely drenched
Hm. Yeah, guess that cements my plan of staying in with a movie, my cats, and some nice edibles
Safe to drive from SLO to LA?
Doubtful
Sorry guys I’m coming back home and thought some rain would be nice
The Ojai Valley's about to get whooped.
I hate those who are downplaying this event. And also gas lighting this storm as 'just rain.' it's not NORMAL for that amount of rain to dumb over a course of 24 hours.
Change your windshield wipers if they need it. Drive slower. Check your tires to make sure they're not bald. I had a good friend die about a month ago in a car accident on a rainy day. Oh and wear your seatbelt, I had a cousin die about 2 years ago because he got into an accident and wasn't wearing his seatbelt.
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They’ve been warning about this storm for a week but people who pay zero attention will still go “durr stupid weatherman always wrong amirite?” 🙄
Last storm was extremely accurate for me, measured 8" in La Crescenta over the course of 5 days or so.
NOAA has their 168-hour QPF that's pretty similar
https://preview.redd.it/lsnd4sfw9s8g1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=258f57e5de5f7e40cf547b0b224776922d611de0
The important thing is that rainfall totals are much more accurate when averaged over a longer period of time. Don't pay attention to the small timescale stuff like "its gonna rain from 4 until 6, then dry for a few hours then more rain". That stuff is wildly unpredictable but longterm inch total predictions are where to keep your eyes on. Some models are more conservative like NOAA, but some work woth the worst case which greatly overestimate.
Over the course of several days this is still mostly gonna be light to medium rain, just for many hours. Nothing torrential.
Reminder that the NWS was one of the programs Trump and DOGE cut funding to a minimum including NOAA and PBS.
Apple weather app is predicting 6.1” on Wednesday alone. Other websites I’ve checked are nowhere near that number.
Thats over several days. 7.5" over 5 days is 1.5" per day. Thats not an overwhelming large average on any single day, but the forecast has around 3" on xmas, which is where the problem will be. Thats too much water for the land to handle in such a short time span. This is the impact of atmospheric rivers and is what we experienced in November. (Source). Those rainfall totals were terrible for the area. Again, just too much water in such a short amount of time.
May I ask where you got these maps?
NWS Los Angeles Twitter account
https://i.redd.it/nce5mmsmns8g1.gif
Fire and than flood
If I fly out from LAX on Wednesday at 11am - am I fucked? Like it’s just rain… but this is a lot of rain.
This will affect all the marathon runners in training.
Hopefully the state can capture a lot of this water.
It's not a real weather event unless I hear it from Frankie.
Frankie has already spoken on this event, it is known
I was thinking the same thing.
Dangerous??? If yall cant drive in rain please stay home.
RIP to all of us. 🙏
anything above 1/2 inch of rain is catastrophic in LA
Van Nuys gonna turn into a lake
yay!!!! i garden so we love this rain, keep it coming. my rain barrels are half empty so we won’t be able to collect as much as the previous two storms.
Omg guys it’s going to rain!
It’s just rain guys. They do this every time. Acting like Katrina is going to wipe us out.
Every time they hype up the intensity of the rain and it never is what they say it will be.
Great! Let's hype it up more to get the rain to a more manageable level! I've got family in a tent on Christmas day outdoors 😁
Weird map. Where the rain is heaviest, there are no city labels. Does anybody care about 3 inches of rain in Riverside?
Good
flying into LAX from New Zealand on friday. not sure if/how this affects flights argh.
We need it so badly because we don’t get rain here we will be in a drought
great can’t wait for it to rain
I'm so sick of redditors complaining about LA not getting rain.
We've literally been drenched every fucking year for the last 5 or so years.
Just great.
Dang that gif won’t hold still long enough for me to find my location in it. Am I going to get hit by some weather?
Uhhh my husband and I are going on Thursday-the first for a vacation, we wanted to do tourist things in LA…we are staying in Glendale.
Anyone know if it'll be snowing anywhere? Wanna take the kids sledding! Ideally east of the OC/SD area
How does the forecasted rain this week compare to mid November? And which days this week are expected to be the wettest?
I won't believe it until Frankie tells me.
not fooling me this time
Possible high winds, too, gusting up to 50mph (if not stronger).
Christmas is canceled. Smfh
There was an insane wind the other night in my neighborhood that nobody forecast and it took down 2 trees and the power for 5 hrs.
I’m actually thrilled to be in rain this Christmas ngl
I was planning on driving up to NorCal from Burbank tomorrow morning at 6am, am I just destined for disaster?
I deliver storage units. Nobody really needs one on Christmas eve and nobody needs one picked up that day either. I'm still scheduled. Business as usual. In heavy rain. In the worst traffic. It's just dangerous all around and the risk to reward ratio is way off.
You sound so rational while having Influenza A. 😉 Stay safe and don’t let it get to pneumonia, or infect your coworkers.
Driving from Fresno to Covina on Xmas Eve. Good enough reason to cancel and stay home?
First time driving, and i'm planning to drive from east bay area to orange county on Christmas day. How do we feel about this?
Yeah ok
i dont wanna go to work in this rain tf </3
Man I gotta get to Oceanside from La Christmas Eve
Wildfires in 2027 about to put up Game 6 LeBron numbers when the vegetation grows
Nooo I have to drive from SGV to the OC on Xmas 😭
We're supposed to drive down from the Bay Area on Wednesday. My partner, born and raised in LA, is not worried about the Grapevine and everything else, though we are keeping an eye on it. I'm trying to be sanguine and trusting about it but it seems things are escalating?