This is at the upper parking lot that has an entrance by the Boy Scout camp.
I use this parking lot when I hike in Griffith 2-4 times per week. For the last year - a guy has been hanging out in his car there every day. I don’t know his situation and try not to judge - if he’s not bothering anyone I’m not too concerned - that’s recently changed.
At first when he showed up I would sometimes nod or say hi - only to be met with a glaring stare. I just ignore him now but he stares crazy every time I’m walking through. I’ve stopped recommending this hike and parking area to friends so they don’t have to experience this.
Yesterday I was hiking with a good friend and while walking back to our cars the guy stepped out of his jeep liberty, staring intently, and started stepping up to us. We acknowledged him only to be met with an intense stare that continued until we got back to our cars.
That was the final straw - this dude is not in a right state of mind and is making this nice public park feel unsafe. I called the ranger and told them about the interaction.
If anyone sees this guy or has a similar interaction - make a report to the ranger. That area of Griffith is so nice and we don’t deserve someone claiming this zone for themselves and making others feel unsafe.
He’s been there for years.
Maybe in a different spot - there used to be an Asian guy with an older sedan that always had some bags of trash / cans. He never seemed to bother anyone - I never got a weird vibe from him seemed like he had some mental issues but just wanted to lay low.
The guy in the jeep liberty has only been there in the last year. He’s younger and has a dog - I’ve always gotten threatening vibes from him despite trying to say hi a lot at the beginning.
He sees me 2-4 times a week for the last year. There’s no reason to escalate like he did yesterday.
It’s basically a The Surfer situation going on here. If you haven’t seen the movie… do it lol
Well now I must.
😂 please keep this Reddit post in mind then
“Don’t live here, don’t surf here”
What race is this guy? You mentioned the Asian guy but not this guy?
Race not mentioned, he’s probably white
Unfortunately, you’re likely right. Asian is othered. Felt the need to mention one race but not any other.
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This has very little to do with English and everything to do with cultural context. If you were speaking English in India (as many do, as a primary language) if you didn't mention someone's ethnicity it would be assumed they were south Asian.
Now this is just how humans are, we notice/communicate things if you don't mention someone's nationality it's assumed your talking about an American.
so mentioning someone Asian doesn’t mean they are American? please explain
That is not what I said or implied. They are not directly related and I was drawing a comparison. Doesn't help that the context has been removed.
When describing me (assuming I talk) people in the USA will always mention my nationality, nobody in the USA feels the need to say "this is my American friend"
Found that a bit weird too
why mention Asian race but not the menacing guy’s race?
Quick question: why does the Asian guy get a racial descriptor but not the other guy?
I’d just prefer to not use any - if you want the other guy is probably Hispanic but I’m not really sure
Asian people are often pretty clearly Asian whereas most other ethnicities can be a lot more ambiguous.
This is not racism, this is observation lol
Prob because the new dude isn’t Asian. Easiest differentiator when trying to tell if you’re talking about the same person.
Quit being weird.
Nothing deep ur just looking into too much
Two comments posted around the same time, yet one has 14 upvotes and positive commentary and yours is downvoted and swarmed by the race-card brigade
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jesus man
This is exactly the kind of comment I’m trying to avoid by using racial descriptions. Cut this shit out
Are you saying the Asian Bag man is not there anymore?? I kinda liked that guy.
Yeah I haven’t seen him in a while. He was pleasant - obviously didn’t want to interact but didn’t make weird eye contact or walk up to you like this other guy so never a reason to think anything weird. He picked up trash people would leave which is really kind of him.
Feel like I might have seen the Asian guy in the Costco parking lot once.
And?
It's for the public, not his personal property.
So what did the Ranger say they are going to do after you called them?
This is really concerning. The rangers are pretty attentive, and responsive. Don't hesitate to call again, same for everyone else.
Meh. The rangers are as feckless as LAPD. We almost got run over by some dumb teenager in a poorly modified car. We yelled at them. They stopped and threw some funny insults. Ranger pulled up. Heard commotion talked to them and the said to us (having continued our walk to the hike) “there’s two sides to every story, and pulled away. Feckin useless.
There's actually three sides to ever story. What each side says and then what actually happened.
Or 4 sides. See: Akira Kurosawa’s “Rashomon”
That's not how I remember that movie.
That sucks
I am sure you are not the only person to notice or have an interaction like this.
Thanks for saying something to a ranger
Yikes I don’t know why people are coming for you, I appreciate the heads up. Follow your intuition and be safe. Glad you informed the rangers in case it escalates, and by putting the word out it gives others who use the area a chance to take precautions.
For the redditors in this thread that don’t understand why getting stared down over and over again feels threatening - I’m offering a service!
Give me an address of a place you regularly frequent and I’ll stare you down from 20 feet away 2-3 times a week for the next year.
You can then determine if it’s a completely normal thing or if it makes you feel uncomfortable.
This does require you to leave your house / be outside of your car for at least a few minutes so I’m coming up with another solution to simulate this experience for those with agoraphobia that will be posted shortly.
Ok, let's do this.
Jumbo's.
This won’t demonstrate the experiment as intended but I’m down
Well as staring is a time honored tradition of being at Jumbo's I think it would have the opposite effect here.
But I definitely agree with your original comment it was hilarious lol. People are tripping if they are saying that's not a concern.
People don't look at you crazy unless they are crazy and capable of doing crazy stuff.
There really should be a reddit meetup there. The number of strange threads it pops up in is actually impressive. Plus I love it.
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Goodbye!
... Or rather: Hello!
Maybe you should wear a disguise and see if he stares you down then. Then you’d know if he really has beef with you specifically.
I always love the type of reddit user that calls other reddit users agoraphobic basement dwellers as if they themselves aren't also on reddit.
Idk what you expect the ranger to do, looking at someone isn't illegal and the park isn't your private property.
The rangers actually love when guys hang out and stare down people - especially when they stare down women lmao
Aww look at you, desperately adding qualifier after qualifier to justify the fact that you're siccing the authorities on someone who had the audacity to look at you. What a cool person you are lmao
Don’t threaten me with a good time.
LA getting freaky with the eye contact
Men frequently run from me so eye contact would be hot
Yeah, I'm definitely getting "I'm just a friendly guy" vibes from your posts in this thread, so I can't believe someone would dare to look at you or stand near their car 15-20 feet away from you. It must be hard suffering so much, I feel like I can see the psychological damage from these horrifying interactions.
You’re right let’s keep LA antisocial - it’s so normal to get stared down by people with untreated mental illness at the park every time you go - it’s what makes this city great.
Its not about being "social." You came to reddit to make this thread about an experience that was scary for you. It sucks to be scared. But that doesn't mean anything that was actually untoward or bad happened or that the subjective feeling you had was in-line with objective reality. Its not abnormally anti-social to not want to engage in a conversation with a stranger. it is not abnormally anti-social to stand near your car in a parking lot.
Also the way you've described things its extremely unclear. You say this guy was chilling in his car, but you stopped to say hi. Maybe you wouldn't be weirded out if you were chilling in your car in a parking lot and a stranger came up to you and said "hi," but many people would think that was unusual. especially if it happened multiple times despite receiving no positive feedback. you say you stopped saying hi after the first few times but also after 6 months. that's a huge difference, obviously. you said this guy was stepping up to you but also was standing 15-20 feet away between you and his car. Maybe he's wary of a stranger consistently coming near his vehicle. You say you don't look at him any more but he's staring you down every time you go, which is obviously not possible. so either you are looking at him too (and he may think "why is this guy eyeballing me every time he comes here?" or that he otherwise needs to watch you) or you don't know if you're being stared down and you're just assuming this is the case.
Finally, for better or worse the status quo of LA is that people with untreated mental illness might interact with you. they might look at you. they might talk to you. they might make a scene on the bus or in the subway. These are not scary things, they are sad things. they are preventable things that, if our city was great, we would try to address. but calling the rangers to kick a guy out of a parking lot for the grave crime of standing and looking in a public place certainly isn't the solution to a lack of affordable housing or a systemic failure to invest in mental health services. seeing a person with untreated mental illness might scare you, but what scares me is the fact that everyone in the city can acknowledge the issue but still prefer to just kick people out of places or hide the problem elsewhere rather than head on addressing it. being polite and social is good, but saying "hi" to people and actually caring about them are two different things.
Lmao why are you assuming I’m going up to this guys window to say hi. When you’re the only two people in a parking lot you notice when someone is staring at you. A very normal way to address a stare or someone walking towards you with off body language is to say hello. The act of staring someone down or walking towards them initiates an interaction - being nice and saying hi is a tactic to defuse someone acting a little off towards you.
‘Being wary of a stranger coming up to your vehicle’ - it’s a parking lot, people are going to be walking by.
Even despite this guy showing up and staring me down for the past year, I’ve never done anything but mind my business and say hello in passing to diffuse his off behavior.
If I was being a Karen it would have been unreasonable to report this to a ranger after the first interaction of course. It’s been a year at this point and his body language is getting more pointed and aggressive, he now stops what he’s doing next to his car and takes 5-10 steps in my direction, staring me down and looking angrier every time. This is a clear tactic to try to intimidate me away from the area.
There’s nothing unreasonable about wanting the park to be a safe and comfortable place for everyone - there’s nothing I can do to help this guy being openly hostile. I’m not going to stop going to this section of the park after 5+ years. This is what the rangers are for - public parks should be easygoing and free of intimidation tactics this guy is pulling.
so it wasn't "I was just being polite and friendly saying hi" but actually "I was intimidated the whole time and trying to defuse things" if I'm understanding you correctly? and again, i'm just trying to piece it together from what you've posted here in this thread. you're choosing what to say here, I can only try to understand; because your OP reads like a slow degradation over a year but your comments make it increasingly seem like from day 1 you've had some issue with this guy's behavior. I'm assuming you walked past his car and said hi to him while he was in his car because you said in your OP that he hangs out in his car and you said hi or gave him the nod multiple times. but this comment makes it sound like was outside his car staring you down from the jump. obviously those are different scenarios and I wasn't there so i'm pointing these things out because I don't know how it happened.
I don't think its unreasonable to remove troublemakers or to want the park to be safe. what is the trouble besides your feeling upset because someone looked at you and was walking near their car, 15-20 feet away. its strange that you're imparting so much intent to a guy who has never said a word to you, but you're sure that he's using a "clear tactic to try to intimidate [you] away from the area." are you sure you aren't maybe wishing he would leave the area and projecting some of that onto him?
and again, definite "I'm social and normal, the other guy is the problem" vibes from a guy who is asking for addresses on the internet.
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Somewhere else on Reddit.. “Guy in Griffith Park Golf Course uses the course parking when they go hiking”
Lol, “This guy keeps eyeballing me when he goes hiking and now he’s brought some back up to try and intimidate me.”
Just kidding OP, but it would be hilarious if it was a misunderstanding and not them trying to staunch you out.
If there’s a rule against it feel free to post it up. That upper parking lot below Amir’s garden is always empty in the morning - no signage saying it’s only for the golf course.
I golf in Griffith Park regularly. That lot always has plenty of space. You’re good to park there to hike.
Probably lost his job and never told his SO 😉
There’s one or two of the Inspector Maigret novels where a guy dresses for work, leaves home and sits on a park bench. Such a weird concept.
The family annihilator John List did something similar.
D-fens! D-Fens!
First thought, but from OP it sounds like a time period longer than unemployment checks would cover.
Good call and you’re right. It’s a public space and you’re entitled to it, too.
I’ve played Griffith ~20x over the last year and parked on the upper lot at least half the time, never encountered this guy.
This isn’t in the main golf course parking lot
I'm finna pull up on him
Let’s go pack cuh out😂😭
Ight who gonna pack him out
Obviously not u 🤡
There’s a reason it was a question bozo, seems like you’re the clown 🤡🤡🤡😭
Bro stop it's ok.... How old are you?
pm if you wanna know more
Sounds illegal
By any chance is he an older white man with a stocky build, bald/little hair with license plate ending in 800?
We used to see someone matching this exact behavior parked outside of our house in Culver City daily for years. Super unfriendly vibes. He disappeared one day and we never saw him again
No he’s a younger guy, maybe Hispanic with a dog. He drives a black jeep liberty or similar mid 2000’s SUV
Is this by the mineral wells picnic area? I hike maybe once a month and alone and just want to make sure since I always park there
No - it’s the upper lot by the golf course
What a creeper , I’d park somewhere else for now.
reason to leave people be
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Late 20’s early 30’s male - probably Hispanic - he has a very cute but really reactive pitbull
What did the ranger say? I assume they knew who you were talking about at least?
Just left a report with the operator
I go hiking around there too and have noticed the car but not really the person.
He’s in and out of his car - sometimes he walks his dog. I was driving out last week and he was walking 4 feet out into the street as I came around the bend. He stepped further into the street as I got closer (I was going 25mph it’s a park so I want to be respectful to cyclists and walkers)
Stepping out towards the car was weird - I wasn’t even driving the usual car he may recognize. He stared me down as I passed by like usual 🙄
Just leave the guy alone, he's trying to masturbate. geez.
😂
So he hasn’t actually done anything to you?
Yeah I’m totally cool with getting stared down by the same person every day in a place I’ve frequented since before this person showed up - you’re right
Lmao it sounds like you are also staring at him everyday so maybe hes on defense because you are actually the creep who wont stop watching him??
I said hi as I passed the first few times - I’ve ignored him and never made eye contact after that. I happen to be the one using the park for a normal purpose and not claiming it as my own, posted up every day and staring everyone else down.
Idk i think you should just mind your business and unless he’s straight up doing meth, yelling at people, or approaching someone with the clear intent of violence, leave him alone. It’s fine that you alerted the rangers but damn people cant just contemplate and be antisocial in their car anymore?!
...did you miss the part where he started rolling up to OP while mad dogging him or nah? Stfu.
Yea i interpreted that as the the guy did that AFTER OP had been staring at him everyday trying to get him to say hi to him lol you guys are big babies
Nowhere does this indicate I’m dogging this guy trying to get him to say hi lmao
Oh god he stared at you? The horror
Totally normal shit I’m sure you also love getting stared down for no reason at places you frequent
As a POC white people (American and non-American) stare me and my kids down a lot. So idk… life kinda sucks.
Totally get it - especially if it’s the same person over the course of a year. This thread is filled with people that think that wouldn’t bother them lmao
I’m just about to add Boy Scout trail to my Mt Hollywood hike too, this is slightly concerning is this before or after 7a?
Yeah my mind is blown by this thread. This guy is dangerous because he looks at you and never says a word????
I feel bad for all these people who are so afraid of the world.
Thank you lmao im a brown woman that was born and raised in LA, i know we have to be on alert and watching our back, front, and sides but geeeeezus. If i say hi or am friendly to someone who doesnt do it back, im just gonna keep moving and if i see that person again im just not going to do that again?
It definitely normal to say hi to someone once or twice and then get stared at and stepped up to for the next year. Public places should be unfriendly!
Omg i bet you’d thrive in a HOA
Lmao can’t wait for you to be totally chill about the next person that stares and creeps you out on the regular. It’s totally normal and we should actually be flattered when we get creeped on 😂
Lol jokes on you buddy! Im a short woman in a big city, this IS the experience. We grow a tougher skin, we take another route, we call a friend, and we dont look at that person again. No one is saying be flattered. I said MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS.
That’s great you’ve accepted that getting creeped on is normal here 👍 don’t really get what you’re trying to prove.
Small girl big city you’re so tough 💀
Why do you think im trying to prove anything? I disagree that the person you are trying to paint as a threat has given enough evidence to be a threatening person. At least based off the info you have shared. You could obviously learn a lesson or two from us tough girls! Take a self defense class or two lmao
Calm down Xena😂
Mrs. Krabappel and Principal Skinner were in the closet making babies and I saw one of the babies and the baby looked at me!
Not staring intently!!!!
It’s actually fine and not threatening at all to get stared at and stepped up to every time you go to a certain place - totally normal
Better get some smelling salts
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So you’re why I can never find a parking spot when I’m running late to my tee time…
"when I’m running late"
I think I figured out the real reason you can never find a parking spot.
Uppermost parking lot always has plenty of spots hahaha
lol. you sound like you're looking to bitch about something. he stared at you! leave him alone, stop staring, stop trying to be his friend, stop nodding, just leave him alone.
I want to use the park in peace and not get stared at and stepped up to all the time. I’ve ignored this guy after saying hi in passing a few times in the beginning like normal people do.
Antisocial and threatening behavior isn’t the norm
right, after saying "hi".. just leave him alone!
If you could read that’s what my comment above says lmao
yeah it's rather lacking in anything concrete. i don't know what "stepping up" to us means? he got out of his car and walked towards you? okay?
lots of shady characters in LA. lots of ways to avoid them. i'm assuming he's parked where he's parked as a way to avoid people! maybe give it space?
I’ve been hiking here for years I’m not just accepting that this dude has claimed the parking lot for himself and wants to intimidate everyone else out of it.
i'm not saying to avoid parking in the spot. i'm suggesting that maybe you can observe that he's probably in a lot of pain. he's avoiding the world. maybe just give him the space he's asked for. i don't say hi to random people... i park and go about my business! he can't be more out of the way than he already is.
‘Space hes asked for’ actively intimidating people that dare use the park within half a parking lot of him. Mental health issue or not - it’s a problem
lol. his actions. leave him alone. why are you saying "hi" to people in a parking lot? 🤷🏻♂️ i do not have problems like this. i also don't go out of my way to say "hi" to people who are unhoused and clearly giving "leave me alone" vibes.
This whole thread feels like teaching robots how human interactions work.
Let’s say when I first noticed him around all the time - I notice he’s looking at me as I walk by, I’m not assuming much but maybe he has a reason. I nod and nicely say ‘hey how’s it going’ as I walk by. It’s odd he’s looking at me but nothing wrong with saying hi and being nice - shows him I’m not a threat just going about my business.
If a few interactions like that in the beginning lead to increasingly intense staring and the guy starting to walk towards me while staring like he’s a territorial dog protecting his car - something’s wrong and it flags the guy as potentially not all there or very safe to be around.
Do you say hi to your neighbors or people you see often around town? Is interacting with others in society weird?
“we don’t deserve someone claiming this zone for themselves and making others feel unsafe”
Maybe he is suffering from mental illness. Think about your actions and how he might perceive them. It seems like an exaggeration to say he’s claiming the zone for himself. He’s said nothing to you. He hasn’t told you to leave. Maybe he accurately perceives your “saying hi” as disingenuous attempts to check him out instead of minding your own business. It is very common for disfavored communities to encounter Karen-esque people that put a transparent friendly gloss on what is essentially meddling and not minding their own business. I work from home and go to some parks and parking lots all the time to be somewhere else, and I don’t want to interact with anyone or make friends. It’s obvious to me when someone is suspicious of me and feeling me out, and I resent it. What’s missing from your story is any indication whatsoever that this guy has reacted with hostility to anyone but you - and no, the friend you took with you doesn’t count. Maybe you’re the guy that keeps showing up and fucking with him while everyone else that shows up there just minds their own business. Maybe.
I’ve seen this guy multiple times a week for the last year and always ignore him except for the few times I said hi in the beginning. He’s been escalating by staring me down and now starting to approach me as if walk through the middle of the parking lot.
Whatever he’s going through isn’t an excuse to intimidate others who’ve done nothing but say hi once or twice and use the park in a totally normal way.
Antisocial behavior like his is so normalized in LA it’s insane
Thanks for the added context/data points. Fair to notify the rangers. I wonder if they would tell you if others have detected hostility, in which case they should act. But it would be unfortunate if there’s something about you that sets him off. Sad either way. I hope he can get help.
His dog was sick the other week and I felt bad - shitty situation and I thought about offering help. He’s obviously not friendly so I decided against it. I’m generally looking out and care about others so it’s shitty that this guy projects intimidation and has doubled down on it for no reason.
That is sad about the dog. His behavior is probably not for no reason. Mental illness is probably the reason. You may not have experience with mental illness, but try to understand he’s not making deliberate, logical decisions with a healthy mind to act that way. As an analogy, imagine an injured dog that growls and snaps out of fear as you try to help it. It can’t properly interpret your intentions and is choosing the “fight” trauma response for self-protection.
I don’t need to be lectured on how mental illness can work - I’m very aware.
I’ve ignored this guy for the last year and never shown any threatening behavior - I do my hike and walk back to my car.
He’s now escalated by staring and stepping up to put himself between me and his car as I walk by 15-20 feet away.
My sympathy fades when he starts making threatening moves - hope he gets help but it’s not the public’s obligation to get threatened and have endless sympathy day to day.
Good luck in life.
This is an interesting take. As someone (and spouse even more so) who thinks interacting with strangers in public places is not only allowable but important, I think "mind your business" as a golden rule is a wet blanket. Like, if you don't want to interact with anyone, even to the point of "Hi," maybe stay home. But you do have a point that it could be the dude in the truck who felt threatened by these interactions first. Curious to see if anyone else chimes in as having had a bad experience with him.
Stay home from a fairly low traffic park (as opposed to from a mall or something) if you’re not interested in conversation is an interesting take too.
It’s still a public space
Please don’t park in the golf lot if you are not playing golf. You can be towed for this.
There’s no signage on the upper lot and it’s below the garden. Anyone can use that lot.
This is the upper parking lot under Amir’s garden - no signs or anything that say this. It’s definitely not just for golfers.
I wish they enforced this at roosevelt.
So… a guy stared at you?
How’d you feel if you see the same person 2-4 times a week, say hi, and they stare you down while stepping up to you - it’s not friendly or normal - just straight up threatening behavior.
I’m a big guy which is why I’m okay dealing with this. I’m not going to tell women or other friends to go hike there if there’s a guy in the lot all day every day who death stares everyone that passes.
Not like humans evolved to be incredibly good at reading each others body language or anything ya know.
I’d assume autism. But I’m not a bitch
I’d feel like this is obviously an unfriendly and not normal person, but I’m gonna mind my business and stop waving and trying to talk to him🤷 … and not waste rangers time on someone who isn’t behaving to the level of friendliness I’d personally like/demand from them. If he can’t read body language and didn’t evolve the way I expect - I’m not going to report him to a ranger.
I stopped saying hi in passing about 6 months ago after realizing he wasn’t friendly - it’s okay to give people you see often a chance.
‘Wasting rangers time’ is ridiculous. This is a public park for public enjoyment - not a place for someone to post up and live out of their car.
Whether or not he’s allowed to be there is not your call to make. It’s the rangers’ and apparently the rangers have decided that this man also has a right to be in the public park just like you do. You genuinely sound like more of a problem for others than the guy in the car.
I also assume the public servants of LA actually do their job lmao but look around - there’s no street lights in my neighborhood because all the copper wire got stolen. Should I just wait and assume they’ll get around to it with no public pressure?
If the rangers don’t see “person living out of their car who looks at other people” as an enforceable issue (and it’s not, unless I missed the city ordinance where staring in a way that may be perceived as menacing is against the law) then it’s not an issue. Unless, perhaps, the guy doesn’t move his car after 10pm when the park closes. But even then, I’m sure the park rangers are familiar with him and his presence in the park and if other park users find the way he looks at them to be a problem, that’s not a problem for park rangers or the police or literally anyone except the park users to deal with their own feelings about it.
I gave feedback to the rangers they take feedback into account and generally want the park safe and used for its intended purpose. I’m not claiming to be the law here hahaha those rangers will do whatever they deem
Hey man, pattern recognition is one of rhe reasons humans survive. OP noticed a distinct change in behavior. It's not about friendliness even, nove past that
We really only have OPs word for this, men have been accusing people who don't fawn over them with being "unfriendly" for centuries.
So? There’s a guy who can’t read body language and glares at people. Just leave him alone?trying to talk to him repeatedly and coming back with another person to do the same seems like a pointless idea. Sure, seems like a common (and acceptable apparently) reaction to warn people on social media about this person, but reporting them to rangers is dumb in my opinion.
Leave him alone...or call the park ranger and say "This guy stared at me?"
You’re assuming a lot. I said hi once or twice and have ignored this person since then. I’ve used this parking lot since before he showed up - it’s not normal to stare and step up to people walking by and minding their own business.
Wouldn't be surprised if drugs were involved.
He doesn’t give off that vibe at all. He may not even be homeless but just spends all day there to get out of the house.
I'm gonna realize he's not required to be friendly, and know that he has probably been met with lots of unfriendliness, bigotry, and violence, on top of being unhoused and hungry. Then I'd probably stop and introduce myself and say hi or just go about my fucking day.
Met with a lot of unfriendliness.
I'm fucking dying.
Do you hear yourself? 😂
Oh Christ come on
The rangers for sure laughed at you when you hung up the phone.
What’s your #? I’ll patch you in next time so you can hear it irl and don’t have to make dumb assumptions on Reddit
Include your address too - I’ll hang out on the public sidewalk and stare at you every time you come and go so you can decide wether that feels normal or not
Your mistake was nodding or saying hi. Let sleeping dogs lie. You live in a city. Don’t make eye contact with anyone who looks sketch. Don’t say hi. Don’t give them money. This is city living 101.
You brought this on yourself, and unfortunately, nothing can be done unless he actually does something.
Reddit 101 - man with Glendale in the bio lectures Los Angeles natives
Seems like people in the comment section here are being weirdly hostile to you like the fucking dude in the Jeep. I don't see anything controversial about what you're saying.
The structure of LA encourages antisocial behavior. People also have no clue how to interact with each other after the pandemic. It’s weird out here. Thanks for seeing this as it is
Mostly I see people just trying to live their lives and like you I tend to engage with them in a polite way even if it's just in passing. It seems like your guy has been actively putting off weird vibes and then he escalated a bit. I'd certainly take note of that.
I don’t see how that’s relevant. Man, you’re a stubborn one aren’t you? Maybe this dude in the park clocked you for who you really are.
You’re gate keeping. They’re right and so are you. It’s bullshit having to deal with what we do in la, but you do also have to learn how to live in reality.
Gatekeeping? Idk if you’re using that term correctly here
Why are you so defensive and not trying to understand anything beyond what you think you can argue with. Telling someone they’re from another city so they can’t understand what you’re going through in your own city is the epitome of gate keeping, especially when they’re your neighbor.
Yeah that’s not what gate keeping means but I get your point - also judging by your original comment, you may understand but have resigned yourself to just taking it and accepting that it’s normal for mentally ill creeps to invade every public space we have.
I’m good on that - already reported this BS to the rangers
I can see that a lot of other people’s comments have upset you and that you are not able to accept any sort of criticism even when people tell you that you’re right. I can also tell that you are not able to have a reasonable conversation with and that is either because you are upset or because you are unreasonable. Either way I hope you stay safe.
No I just disagree that this is normal and we should all accept it. I’ve been hiking this area for years and now I find myself telling the women I’ve told about the place about to avoid it for a while. Griffith isn’t MacArthur park and people shouldn’t have to deal with this.
You started off this comment thread lecturing about ‘city living 101’ and ‘you brought this on yourself’
I don’t think you know what you’re talking about to be honest
You’re confusing who you’re arguing with because you just want to argue. Reading and listening may help you. If you just want to vent then just say so. You’re right, it’s bullshit. But the people you’re popping off to are also right.
You’re right - there’s Mattyjoe who teaches ‘city living 101’ and then you’re the guy who doesn’t know what gatekeeping means.
You’re both wrong - mattyjoe’s original comment was condescending and I disagree with it - you say ‘we have to live in reality’ - if accepting that this dude now owns the parking lot as his personal creep zone is the reality I need to accept - I’m good on that.
Where were you born? I don’t think you even know what you’re talking about. Accept what? The guy hasn’t actually done anything. Yes, people can make you feel weird inside without it being a crime. He can’t be forcibly removed for looking at someone.
I’m not denying crazies exist in our city, but you seem like a narcissist who has to impose himself on this person instead of just keeping your head down. Weirdo.
Lmao I put out a PSA to watch out for the dude being consistently sus and getting weirder - ‘just keep head down’ is wild haha
The park rangers definitely care about the park being a safe place - this dude creeping on people is starting to cross that line. There’s a lot of crazy behavior that isn’t technically illegal - but is going to get you asked to leave
OP is scared of being looked at lol
You're giving Karen energy to be honest.
Totally - you should tell your girlfriend to go hike there alone. The guy stares and will walk up to you while doing it but it’s probably no big deal. I hear the ladies actually love interactions like that.