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I get jerking off AI companies if you have a financial interest in doing so, but publicly admitting you’re too dumb to do subtraction seems self-destructive.
That was the part that irritated me the most. Like, ok bud, you wanna publicly broadcast how much of ChatGPT sycophant you are, you go right ahead. But don’t infer that everyone else in the world is as eager to slobber all over genAI as you are.
I also do this with Gemini to get it to be more objective and to stop trying to flatter me. Additionally, I have it explain some of how it arrived at each response, including:
whether it used an internet connection (which is not always a yes)
the number of unique sources used
whether any of its sources was a form of social media
whether its response is overtly recommending a product or company
details of any peer-reviewed publications used as sources
Since I mostly use AI chatbots to learn how best to get them to retrieve and communicate information in useful ways, making it spit out operational metadata like this really helps with that understanding. At this point, I think I'd find most chatbots almost completely useless without this and the personality manipulation you mentioned.
whether it used an internet connection (which is not always a yes)
the number of unique sources used
whether any of its sources was a form of social media
whether its response is overtly recommending a product or company
details of any peer-reviewed publications used as sources
Its not a bad idea to ask this of an LLM, but its important to be aware that whatever it tells you as a response to these points is still just a combination of words that are statistically likely to go together given the context. They cant do introspection and then report on how they did something, or report on what they did.
Meaning, while it might often be close to the truth, none of it is ever guaranteed to be correct. And can even be confidently wrong. LLMs can't think about how many sources they used and then state that fact. They cant think. They can only combine words in a way that they have been trained to, but they are not able to understand what they are even writing, or have been doing.
This is why I hate the term "artificial intelligence." It's not intelligent at all! It doesn't think! It's like a radioactive spider bit the thing on your phone that tells you what word it thinks you're trying to spell and lets you click on it rather than stumbling through "ecclesiastical" or "accommodation" on your own, and now that thing generates paragraphs instead of single words. That's literally all it is!
still just a combination of words that are statistically likely to go together
Yes, this is why I basically use it as a glorified search engine or research assistant. Anything beyond that is like anthropomorphizing any other tool, like people who talk to their cars. It's kind of weird, imo.
LLMs can't think about how many sources they used and then state that fact.
You are correct in that LLMs do not think. However, you are incorrect in that they do store and utilize metadata related to the sources of information used in generating responses. This rather trivially includes the number of explicitly-defined sources used due to the fact that the response automatically includes annotations with links to the sources used for each part of the response, at least on Gemini. And yes, it's obvious that these are not infallible, but only a fool would treat a chatbot's responses as such.
What I then do with the full versions of my saved instructions is merely expose that metadata in a human-readable format. This is purely due to convenience; whenever I get around to testing out the CLI version of Gemini, I'll probably output the responses' more useful or interesting metadata in a machine-readable format.
they do store and utilize metadata related to the sources of information used in generating responses.
The chatbot system as a whole might. But the LLM itself doesn't "store" any metadata. The LLM itself is one part of a larger system, a so called RAG (retrieval augmented generation). Some parts of the larger chatbot system might search the web to give the LLM more context, while other parts are responsible for embedding links to the references in the output of the LLM. But the core part, the LLM itself is only fed words (tokens) and outputs statistically likely words (tokens).
And I'm not sure what you mean with metadata, do you mean the internal list of sources used? The LLM itself might have access to that, but you won't be able to access it yourself as a user. You could ask gemini to produce this metadata for you, but trust me when I say that whatever it produces as a result is nothing like the actual internal data. Its just the LLM parroting what it thinks you want to hear.
It honestly kind of seems like it tunes itself to how you talk to it too, and develops a "personality" (insofar as a generative algorithm can have a personality). You can probably gain some insight on a person based on the way their ChatGPT responds to them. To some extent, anyways.
Oh yeah. I saw this one as well. I thought he was making some joke about ChatGPT being bad at maths. But nah, just a dude talking to ChatGPT on his birthday like a normal sane person with lot of friends
I remember reading that the ancient Greeks thought that the advent of writing would make people dumber and I thought that was ridiculous but I get it now
As someone who is asocial and constantly online, even I think we need to delete the internet and make mfs go outside. Because at some point, all of this will be irreversible
I’m surprised it got it right. Sometimes with these questions it falls back to its base data or whatever you call it. Drives me nuts that it doesn’t at least do a quick internet search for current date for every question like this.
A common one is asking about trump’s second term. Before ChatGPT’s update to 5 it would reference only trump’s first term and assume Biden was still president. There were times it actually thought Kamala was president when I asked it to use up to date data.
No. But emotionally. He didn’t ask chatgpt because he didn’t know his birthday. He asked because chatgpt would be the only thing that would tell him happy birthday
I think its pretty clear hes just trying to broadcast that hes "with it", where it is AI, and being with is stating his support for said things while not at all knowing how this very wide genre of technology could be practically applicable within his industry.
The fact that GPTs can (and do) get simple answers like this wrong after years of training and people are still investing in them will always be funny.
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Thank you for sharing your birthday with the world Gowtham. Now, can I get your mother's maiden name, and maybe the city you are born and your street address. Thank you! 😀
They work for Paypal and lots of people find AI beneficial in many ways, it’s just very low on the things I think is worth making some of these comments.
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So to be fair, the older I get, the more I need to do math sometimes to remember how old I am 😂 I’m way past his age, but yeah, that’s right around the time where I remember getting confused about how old I’d be turning too lol. I don’t celebrate my birthday anymore, it just stopped feeling like a big deal after a certain age and I started losing count 😅
Dude : Hey ChatGPT, I think that I don't exist
ChatGPT : Bro. You think, therefore you exist.
Dude : Thanks ChatGPT
Proceeds to make a post on Linkedin
that's actually some pretty solid evidence
(can't post pics and there's no gif of the comic)
Rene GPT?!
ChatGPT, when said in French is pronounced like Chat, j'ai peté, which means Cat, I farted.
Sums up GenAi pretty nicely I'd say tbh
Perry the Platypus?!
Lmao
I exist, and here is how it helps my B2B sales goals
My existence helps generate shareholder value.
Descartes: The Origins
This dumbass is working with financial data at PayPal 🤣
Does someone who actually asks everything to ChatGPT really thinking?
Descartes moment
Great way to announce that you are lonely.
Hey, ChatGPT is my hype man, not just my friend
And my girlfriend. And my mistress. And my no gay boy toy. And my panther.
Can he askchat gpt to guess his mothers maiden name and the street he grew up on? i’m sure he’d love to post that as well
Chat GPT? Are you still there?
You hang up first! I can’t! ❤️
Absolutely, so cringe calling out for ‘happy birthday’ messages
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The epitome of sadness is either between following doomscrolling stories of everyday people in TikTok and asking basic questions to Chat GPT.
This is the end
My only friend, the end
I'll never look into your eyes again
I ask stupid ass questions to me ChatGPT, I just don't post them publicly lol
I don't ask stupid questions to chat gpt, because I have never used chat gpt.
I ask stupid questions to real people instead, as our forefathers intended.
/redditmoment
Asking simple questions on reddit leads real people to bitch at you for not googling something so simple.
Where are we right now? What's happening? Have we never had true values? It's all just grift and posturing?
Get your asses out of your heads.
I agree with you and this gif is literally those people before they type, ‘GOOGLE IT!’
Bro,your forefathers didn’t recommend me over “real people” because they used candles and wells.
Literally would've been faster to use a calculator
Or to just know how old you are.
Bro he had to double check he couldn't believe the passage of time
"Time is still linear!!?!?"
"I'll make your ass linear"
"That doesn't even make sense!"
I mean, same. My late 20's are just flying by because I'm so busy trying to get my shit together, but my early 20's felt so much slower.
Same. I'm pretty sure 22 lasted at least three years
Every year is getting shorter, never seem to find the time
To be fair, after I hit a certain number I am never quite sure.
You can't just sneak that question up on everybody.
For me it was 25, I hate when people ask my age lol I'll hopefully be able to reset again at 30
I forgot my age tbh
Tbf I do forget sometimes
I knew exactly how old I was until 18. Afterwards it’s not really relevant anymore, so I have to do the math.
Like one of those cavemen huh ?
It's easy to forget when it doesn't come up often.
He would, but he got distracted by 58008.
Who doesn't?
Dem digi-titties
5318008
ChatGPT brain makes that impossible.
he doesn’t know how.
Calculator has a much lower chance of telling you you’re 27 though, which seems to be the point.
Literally faster than any of this is to use your head. Like 9+25 shouldn't take you more than a couple seconds to calculate.
I get jerking off AI companies if you have a financial interest in doing so, but publicly admitting you’re too dumb to do subtraction seems self-destructive.
Basically admitting that AI can replace their job.
I'd be concerned if one of our "data engineers" couldn't subtract
"I work at paypal but can't figure out how old I am, you can totally trust me with big financial datasets!"
Bro killed trees to get ChatGPT to say happy birthday
lol brain dead 💀
"I did what anyone would do, check with ChatGPT"
No, sir, actually no one would do that but you.
That was the part that irritated me the most. Like, ok bud, you wanna publicly broadcast how much of ChatGPT sycophant you are, you go right ahead. But don’t infer that everyone else in the world is as eager to slobber all over genAI as you are.
“I did what anyone would do…”.
No, don’t try to normalize this. Nobody asks ChatGPT how old they are.
Dude is nobody gonna comment on how his LinkedIn post is rather obviously written by ChatGPT too??
I dont use chatgpt but i hate how it types conversationally.
YES. It's like the world's most obnoxious PR intern who's way too excited about her new idea for marketing canned air.
You can use custom system instructions to dull its personality. Mine speaks like a bored lecturer.
I also do this with Gemini to get it to be more objective and to stop trying to flatter me. Additionally, I have it explain some of how it arrived at each response, including:
whether it used an internet connection (which is not always a yes)
the number of unique sources used
whether any of its sources was a form of social media
whether its response is overtly recommending a product or company
details of any peer-reviewed publications used as sources
Since I mostly use AI chatbots to learn how best to get them to retrieve and communicate information in useful ways, making it spit out operational metadata like this really helps with that understanding. At this point, I think I'd find most chatbots almost completely useless without this and the personality manipulation you mentioned.
Its not a bad idea to ask this of an LLM, but its important to be aware that whatever it tells you as a response to these points is still just a combination of words that are statistically likely to go together given the context. They cant do introspection and then report on how they did something, or report on what they did.
Meaning, while it might often be close to the truth, none of it is ever guaranteed to be correct. And can even be confidently wrong. LLMs can't think about how many sources they used and then state that fact. They cant think. They can only combine words in a way that they have been trained to, but they are not able to understand what they are even writing, or have been doing.
This is why I hate the term "artificial intelligence." It's not intelligent at all! It doesn't think! It's like a radioactive spider bit the thing on your phone that tells you what word it thinks you're trying to spell and lets you click on it rather than stumbling through "ecclesiastical" or "accommodation" on your own, and now that thing generates paragraphs instead of single words. That's literally all it is!
Yes, this is why I basically use it as a glorified search engine or research assistant. Anything beyond that is like anthropomorphizing any other tool, like people who talk to their cars. It's kind of weird, imo.
You are correct in that LLMs do not think. However, you are incorrect in that they do store and utilize metadata related to the sources of information used in generating responses. This rather trivially includes the number of explicitly-defined sources used due to the fact that the response automatically includes annotations with links to the sources used for each part of the response, at least on Gemini. And yes, it's obvious that these are not infallible, but only a fool would treat a chatbot's responses as such.
What I then do with the full versions of my saved instructions is merely expose that metadata in a human-readable format. This is purely due to convenience; whenever I get around to testing out the CLI version of Gemini, I'll probably output the responses' more useful or interesting metadata in a machine-readable format.
Just to be sure we are on the same page:
The chatbot system as a whole might. But the LLM itself doesn't "store" any metadata. The LLM itself is one part of a larger system, a so called RAG (retrieval augmented generation). Some parts of the larger chatbot system might search the web to give the LLM more context, while other parts are responsible for embedding links to the references in the output of the LLM. But the core part, the LLM itself is only fed words (tokens) and outputs statistically likely words (tokens).
And I'm not sure what you mean with metadata, do you mean the internal list of sources used? The LLM itself might have access to that, but you won't be able to access it yourself as a user. You could ask gemini to produce this metadata for you, but trust me when I say that whatever it produces as a result is nothing like the actual internal data. Its just the LLM parroting what it thinks you want to hear.
Source: I studied and work in AI
It honestly kind of seems like it tunes itself to how you talk to it too, and develops a "personality" (insofar as a generative algorithm can have a personality). You can probably gain some insight on a person based on the way their ChatGPT responds to them. To some extent, anyways.
He quoted “Bro…” ChatGPT didn’t even call him “Bro” Just 😭
Oh yeah. I saw this one as well. I thought he was making some joke about ChatGPT being bad at maths. But nah, just a dude talking to ChatGPT on his birthday like a normal sane person with lot of friends
I remember reading that the ancient Greeks thought that the advent of writing would make people dumber and I thought that was ridiculous but I get it now
"da Gowtham"
Da Jokah Baybee is from Da Gowtham, baybee!
Or he's from Bangalore.
One of the two.
10 PRINT "I LOVE YOU ALWAYS"
20 GOTO 10Put info that's valuable to identity thieves right out for the taking. Dude's brilliant.
Twat
34 years old and a, "Data Engineer," can't do simple math. AI is going to be so fracking great!
"I did what anyone would do"
When your personality is “internet”
Hey, GPT - how to use the calculator on my phone
Hey, GPT.
Please stop the world.
I want off.
What a weird way to say "Happy Birthday to me" on LinkedIn.
Good for early onset Alzheimer lol
What. A. Loser.
Luh hoo zuh herrr
-Jim
Liters of water wasted, watts of energy wasted, gpu and ram became scarce and expensive for this ?
"bro it's literally your birthday today! No way"
Camera pulls out to show a man alone in a sparse apartment talking to a chatbot
I swear if it is some indian harping on LinkedIn it is nonsense 8/10 times. Either some management hocum or some outrageous asshattery
As someone who is asocial and constantly online, even I think we need to delete the internet and make mfs go outside. Because at some point, all of this will be irreversible
if linkedin had an AI:
dude: "Hey linkedingpt, I just lost my dream job and my wife divorced me. I also have to feed two kids, what should I do?"
linkedingpt: "This is a learning opportunity that creates growth and opportunity. Have you considered becoming a life coach?"
Is da Gowtham like da Bears?
What a waste of water.
The amount of water wasted on this when he could have just looked at his driver’s license or asked his mom.
That’s so fucking sad
Bro absolutely murdered a lake just to confirm his own birthday
No wonder the planet is fucking burning when people use AI for stupid shit like this.
I can't get past how sad it must be, needing ChatGPT to say happy birthday to you, then boasting about it on the internet.
I’m surprised it got it right. Sometimes with these questions it falls back to its base data or whatever you call it. Drives me nuts that it doesn’t at least do a quick internet search for current date for every question like this.
A common one is asking about trump’s second term. Before ChatGPT’s update to 5 it would reference only trump’s first term and assume Biden was still president. There were times it actually thought Kamala was president when I asked it to use up to date data.
did the equivalent of dumping out like 10 bottles of drinking water just to get chatgpt to acknowledge his special big boy birthday
Imagine having a mid-life crisis at 34
You gotta at least place the bet that you’re gonna live to 80
Mother’s maiden name please???
I get asking it that to show people what bullshit ChatGPT is, but this is so sad.
This is the most r3tard3d thing I've seen this month.
Goddamn this is so sad to look at
is he mentally challenged?
No. But emotionally. He didn’t ask chatgpt because he didn’t know his birthday. He asked because chatgpt would be the only thing that would tell him happy birthday
Was he named after the city where Batman lives?
I think its pretty clear hes just trying to broadcast that hes "with it", where it is AI, and being with is stating his support for said things while not at all knowing how this very wide genre of technology could be practically applicable within his industry.
A data engineer relying on a language model for simple calculations, he should be fired
What is a recruiter going to think when a Data Engineer can’t do simple math - best way to show them your skills I guess!
I don't like that I'm getting old either. But I don't need ChatGPT to do math for me about it.
“Senior Data Engineer” didn’t know the first thing about data security
So much water wasted, but at least this data engineer didn’t have to use a calculator or his fingers!!
The fact that GPTs can (and do) get simple answers like this wrong after years of training and people are still investing in them will always be funny.
Senior Data Engineer at PayPal
Making more money in a year than you'll make in a decade
Having to ask a fucking robot how old they are.
This is America.
This is so goddarnt confusing
Early onset dementia.
🥴
.... I've done that before. I am absolutely shit with dates and I haven't celebrated my birthday in 13 years
Making ChatGPT into the modern equivalent of the imaginary friend is going to lead to some interesting results in a few years
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The cadence and tone of AI "conversation" like this is a special sort of obnoxious, lol.
So many words to drag out the point with a strange sort of breathy excitement. It's sycophantic.
This has to be satire
Even if it’s a joke, these people have white collar jobs?
I don't have anybody to celebrate with so I don't know how old I am. 25 till I'm 50 I guess.
The hint of passive aggressiveness in “it’s literally your birthday today” 💀
His age is 0 because he was literally born yesterday
Thank you for sharing your birthday with the world Gowtham. Now, can I get your mother's maiden name, and maybe the city you are born and your street address. Thank you! 😀
Haappy birthdayy too meee
Idk this feels like a modernized “god I can’t believe how old I am” joke to me. Anyone else getting satire vibes?
Otherwise this guys just a doofus
I wouldn't trust a senior engineer who needs chat gpt to find the difference between 2 dates specially when day and month were the same.
Literally what the fuck.
Sr data engineer,
Can't do basic math without gpt...
Embarrassed to share a birthday (but not year, at least)
"I do what anyone would do..."
This is so harmless, I don’t understand why anyone would care at all.
Right, tone deaf posting it here. Like it’s cringe but the guy is making a “haha I’m so old - even the robot knows I’m old!” joke
Edit: forgot a word
One reason could be that it's a blatant ad to promote the use of ai and to normalize its use for trivial tasks to boost his potential revenue.
They work for Paypal and lots of people find AI beneficial in many ways, it’s just very low on the things I think is worth making some of these comments.
Sigh Happy Birthday Michael
“I double checked with chatgpt” oh my god shuttt upppp
Bro can’t do basic addition? We’re cooked
I wouldn't do that.
I bet bro can’t even use the toilet without asking chatgpt
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Sr DATA ENGINEER
I thought this was a Rule 34 thing and I am desperately disappointed.
They were using ChatGPT to wish themselves a happy birthday.
so it’s like totally literally your birthday. you are so smart and everyone loves you. sincerely, chatgpt
Really means a lot? To get wishes from an AI?
fuck these people are such clowns
do these people tell chatgpt to wipe their ass too
Hey chat gpt, am I thirsty? Haven’t had any water for the last 2 days.
Why? Just why?!
Wow a senior data engineer who needs chatgpt for basic arithmetic. That makes me feel really good about humanity.
So you guys really believe this qualifies then? Lol.
I think he’s trying to be funny
There was an attempt
ChatGPT, what’s my daughter’s name? Gemini, what day is my anniversary? Grok, wipe my ass.
Dude: Hey ChatGPT am I a LinkedInLunatic?
ChatGPT: Deep down you know you are just a lunatic
Dude: Thanks bro!
Embarrassing move for all 12/12ers
😂
Gowtham City
Just wasting water, literally.
Maybe ChatGPT can teach you how capitalization and contractions work next. I mean, you're 34. You can probably handle that now.
So what is this, ragebait to drive engagement on LinkedIn?
God that's pathetic.
“Is the floor made of floor?” “Yes, the floor is indeed made of floor” “It’s confirmed that the floor is made of floor guys, there is no denying it”
If he had real friends he could just have a birthday party like normal people
How long until these people are actually unable to have an unfiltered conversation with a real human?
Dies from cringe. My fucking god
Oh my fucking god. This guy has a job
puts on paypal
I can convince ChatGPT that 2+2=5.
Hey ChatGPT, if I have five apples and I give my friend two, how many apples do I have?
a tsp or whatever of water -> 🚽
"I did what anyone would do" not anyone ever met...
This is more of a joke about how bad LLMs are with dates and most people don't seem to get it
To be fair, I regularly ask my sister how old I am because hell if I know most of the time.
So to be fair, the older I get, the more I need to do math sometimes to remember how old I am 😂 I’m way past his age, but yeah, that’s right around the time where I remember getting confused about how old I’d be turning too lol. I don’t celebrate my birthday anymore, it just stopped feeling like a big deal after a certain age and I started losing count 😅
God I hate LinkedIn so much
Moron!!!
Wait. Kids born in 1990s are 34 year old adults now? Wtf?