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  • As the primary caregiver for Landon, Cetola was drawn to the smaller class sizes and more traditional curriculum, which she felt would be "less woke" than the public school he was currently attending.

    These people are exhausting.

    Good god, woke has become this all consuming evil thing like the Dark Side of the Force

    ANTIFA đŸ«ŁđŸ”„đŸ€Ż

    Pretty sure my Grandparents were Antifa. Grandpa fought in WW2 against the Nazi's while Grandma worked in a US munitions factory to fight the Nazi's. 

    Soooo if you are against anti fascism...you're pro fascism?

    ANTIFA is anti-Facism. We’re supporters of said movement. Trump’s Natl Security FBI Director, who designated ANTIFA as America’s largest domestic terroristic threat on Thursday was unable to answer questions about ANTIFA itself (such as where headquarters is located/ how many members/ etc).

    Thus: my play on words there.

    Don't use that word! Now I'm going to have bad dreams tonight.

    It’s the satanic panic from the 80’s

    I know, I used to play D&D in the 80s. All that Satanism was exhausting.

    And I bought heavy metal albums to play them backwards.

    Didn't even need to be heavy metal. Madonna's "justify My Love" was one of the songs tbat people claimed had a Satanic message when played backwards.

    One of the most hilarious superstitions there is. Especially because all music sounds like some kind of demon when played backwards, because speech isn't meant to be processed in reverse

    And there weren't even any messages. I want my money back.

    It's the they-tanic panic. Boogity booo, some made up boogyman that allows you to funnel your racism covertly is going to rape your doorknob and teach your kid to spell wooooords if you don't vote republican! Boogity boooo!

    To be honest they don't even know what woke is.

    That's the point. If it's ever defined it can be shown to be ideological horse shit.

    School telling my child that they are equal to Asian or black children. Woke!

    “God forbid my child learns to care about others.”

    Seriously. They’re OK with voting for a sex abuser but heaven forbid someone says be nice to people.

    That is the function of the word. It is = "Everything bad", it will be replaced with a new word that means the same once "woke" is worn out.

    Woke pays the bills for red states

    "Regarding gender and race, I want him to be able to make up his own mind," Cetola told CBS News.

    
So I sent him to the “school” that would tell him what was wrongthink

    The opposite of woke is ignorant.

    These people are against Sesame Street. They are against a pluralistic society whose foundation is built on tolerating everything but intolerance   It’s been a fight to get this far on that quest. They want to drag us back in time. They are being quite honest in ‘make America great again’ [sic]. 

    OMG. I just remembered a scene from a tv show when I was a kid. The baddies of the week were white supremacists. They talked about making their own Children's shows so their kids wouldn't have to see that black people existed. Decades ago, this was considered an absurd idea, and now they want to do it for real.

    Right, sure she does, but if he came out to her as gay, or trans, I doubt she’d continue to want him to make up his own mind. No, she’d likely demand he stay in the closet, or disown him, or force him into some conversion center. Hypocrisy is the foundation on which Republicanism is based.

    Making choices for your children’s education based on the diet of propaganda spewed by conservative media just illustrates a total lack of critical thinking skills. Watch out for the “woke” bogeyman!! Idiots raising idiots.

    well it is generational...

    Especially when "woke" at its most used meaning only means treat other people with decency.

    It used to be "politically correct", now it's "woke". SSDD

    Edit: spelling

  • > Regarding gender and race, I wanted him to make up his own mind.

    His own mind about race how? how did you want him to make up his own mind? about other races? what do you mean?

    "I want him to use the same slurs I use"

    When they say “make up [their] own mind” they mean they want their kids to learn what the parents think about race, which often conflicts with actual history and facts. It’s pretty hard to teach your kids that white people are the ones who built the entire country when hardworking, capable white Americans needed enslaved African Americans on the plantations and the Chinese for their railroad projects.

    Hey now, they used Chinese for plantations too! That's how we have Chinese Caribbean cuisine!

    kids making up their minds about their gender is exactly what these people are terrified of lmao

    I know they can comfortably answer "women are caretakers men are providers" but they're WAY more uncomfortable answering what race is.

    they're WAY more uncomfortable answering what race is.

    They are not in any way uncomfortable answering that when among their pals. Race is proper white people and then, the coloured filth.

    What they are not comfortable is saying this in public, and one of their primary reasons for voting Trump is that he was going to let them be openly racist again.

    It means the parents are racist and want their kid to be the same but are worried that if they go to public schools and are around other kids of different races, they might develop tolerance, which is absolutely forbidden.

    yes, without giving them any information about any other gender or race

    "I want me as the only influence" = "make up his own mind"

  • Charter schools coupled with voucher plans are part of the conservative agenda to grow the oligarchy and establish a new Royal/Serfdom dynamic in the US.

    It's a evil genius level move to make money out of dumbing down Americans.

    Say it louder. THIS is the real goal.

    And the corrosive rot of monarchs is why most our ancestors left Europe in the first place.

    I guess some people just want to be ruled.

    Nobody in the US wants to be ruled. The thing is, many are convinced that they will be the ones ruling. So many white conservatives desperate to have their feeling of superiority over black and brown people validated and that's why they keep voting for Republicans, even if they are robbing them blind.

    Nah, they love being cucked.

    That's way different.

    This is incorrect. How else would you explain the continuing dominance of conservative thought among white women in this country? There are plenty of people who genuinely just want to be told what to do and how to live, who resent the idea of having to think critically about anything or take a stand for anything. It is an important part of why conservatism remains so dominant in American politics despite the rapidly growing mountain range made of evidence that it’s a dead-end ideology.

    The thing about that is they believe their place is firmly in the upper middle of the hierarchy: below white men, but above everyone else. It's the sort of thinking that has consistently led non-wealthy white people in america to accept things that will explicitly damage themselves and their communities so long as it will keep them separate and above some other underclass (almost always racial)

    Hard disagree. There are millions in the U.S. who want to be ruled. Hell even the founding of our country saw political figures that were pro monarchy and didn’t want to fully abolish it here. Alexander Hamilton famously wanted the president to be elected for life with immense power. It was a king in all but name only. They never would have had beef with the crown if the king wasn’t so oppressive and let them have representation or semi self autonomy.

    Yeah love democracy and all. But the American people would be better off if King Charles was elected president. Or Prince William.

    There's nowhere left to flee too. We are stuck with these idiots and have to find a way to strip them of all political power or they will doom us all. 

    No, it was having antisocial Christian fundamentalist views in the first place. Hasn't gone away. 

    Yes and FL is full of these “schools” while the public schools are starved out
 All part of the plan.

    When we lived there for a sad few years (caring for ill mother) one was popping up every other week in some random location and half the time they would never open, just collect money and close again.

    Then a slightly new one would open in the same location or right next to it. Enroll a few kids or not. Collect tax money. Repeat.

    I literally told my partner once, “ I think this is all part of some money laundering thing, half these schools aren’t even schools.”

  • "They just dropped the ball and ran," Cetola said. "How can you do something like this and sell this to parents who really want to stay involved with their children and then just walk away?"

    Because they're a for-profit entity which is deliberately choosing a less transparent structure to offer education to children so that they can suck up taxpayer money with less accountability. Teaching that the Transatlantic slave trade was simply an unpaid internship opportunity is just the advertising to make you sign up to have your pockets picked.

  • No they did their job well. Their job just wasnt educating marks' children. 

    But Byron Donald's wife is richer now so win win?

    For sure, to them the kids are just the crap they grow their money in

    The right largely sees their audience as exploitable sources of money. Any right wing product is rife with quality issues.

    it's a very profitable business strategy since clients don't learn from their mistakes and when you get tired of opening/closing businesses, you can sell your client list and make even more money.

  • Yeah so long story short these parents set their kids up to fail by falling for an anti-woke scam. These schools were overcrowded and the kids fell behind when came to their education. That's if the schools opened at all and if they stayed open for longer than a year at a time. These schools took tax dollars with no real oversight to where the money was spent. 

    I mean charter schools as they are in Florida seem to just be big cash giveaways to their owners. No wonder they have failed miserably.

    In summary everything conservatives do should be assumed to be idiocy on the one side and a scam on the other.

    They got uneducated easy to exploit workers out of it. So it was a great success. Conservatives raise their kids to toil in the mines and die yoing. That's their goal.

    Au contrare. They are working exactly as designed. Stripping public education of much needed dollars and putting it directly into the pockets of millionaires while facing zero accountability.

  • So they just took the money and ran? Plus the education was shit. Who would have guessed that was the outcome?

    Only, everyone who's ever paid any attention to the subject!

  • “I have nothing to hide. I am the most open book ever. I’m going to disclose what I need to disclose under the law. That’s it."

    I don’t think they understand what an open book is. Not a good sign if you are trying to run a school

    Yeah, she definitely contradicted herself there.

    We’re so open we’ll show you whatever the law requires of us.

    Much of what she said was Trumpisn hyperbole—I’m the most
 I’m the best
 they parrot Dear Leader

  • It’s just amazing how many people don’t seem to understand that teaching and pedagogy require specialized training and experience - you don’t just wake up one day and you’re an educator. Not to mention the nonspecifics like temperament, organizational skills, etc.

    This should be shouted from the mountain tops! Teaching is a shitload harder than (politicians) people make it sound!

  • One charter school cancelled just days before classes began. Leaving their kids with no options.

  • the conversatiive grift has wide roots.

  • Kathleen Cetola believed she had found the perfect fit for her 9-year-old grandson Landon when Optima Classical Academy broke ground in 2023 near her home in Fort Myers, Florida. 

    ...Landon...

    Say no more

    Delete a letter and you have a sci fi icon.

  • They say they want to reduce reliance on technology and then create an online version of the curriculum. Make it make sense.

  • “Woke agenda” should be double quoted unless someone is finally able to define what it means.

    I think it means “transgender for everyone”

    But I don’t know what that means

    Didn't you notice that everyone in the country got turned transgender?

  • “So now I drive across the bridge and through the traffic while my husband has to drive our kids to school in the opposite direction.”

    Meanwhile, I walk my kids one block to our woke-ass Chicago Public School where in fifth grade my son learned about Tuskegee and Stonewall. I’m here trying to make them as woke as possible!! MORE WOKE!!!

  • I really hope they don't vote for Donalds as governor of Florida. He will then put his wife in charge of education. She's already proven herself to be incompetent.

    No, let them. They deserve it.

    The rest of us don’t.

  • CHARTER SCHOOLS ARE A CATASTROPHE!

    They get YOUR state education tax money: board members do not have to be community members (hire your pals), no local voter approval on budget, they can hire contractors (hire your pals), there's little to no oversight or transparency on spending (what could possibly go wrong?) and siphon $100's of millions from state education budgets.

    Let a rich business owner educate your kid / steal your tax money? Brilliant! All on the back of fear and anger - your school MIGHT be woke OH NO!

  • All charter schools are scams.

  • I went to an early charter school in Orange County, Florida, it was the 2001/2002 school year, it was run by Republicans from another fucking county with a questionable source of wealth, sub-prime lending and derivatives as well as a Jewelry store. Had it been 20 years later they'd have been crypto-bros.

    My public high school was bad but this place was an unmitigated goatfuck. I got the fuck out of there right after 9/11 and went back to not giving a shit at my actual HS til I got in the IT Dual Enrollment program and never had to physically go there again. Those assholes from the charter school still owe me my Ti-83, though I did get a year of free credits out of them which was okay by me.

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    Oh, I bet

  • Wait wait wait...

    Among the other virtues they were going to teach (allegedly), they included "courtesy."

    Isn't "not being a dick" woke or something???

  • The grifting continues 
 YIKES!

  • Might've dropped the ball on delivering any semblance of sufficient education, but better believe they didn't drop that bag off cash

  • Scam after scam after scam after scam


    It's scams all the way down.

  • Just another grifter.

    MAGA is one big grift. That's all. It. Is.

  • Their job was, is, and always will be taking as much of their marks money as possible.

  • Let them sleep while the leopards eat.

    Faces!!! Om Nom Nom.

  • Complain to the Department of Education. Oh....

  • Charter schools are the perfect platform to embezzle public funds and tuition. In MN we have had a number of them go under because the schools owners stole or grossly mismanaged the school funding.

  • What part of profits over people do these idiots not understand?

  • I think there is only one appropriate response to the ineptness of the parents: BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!

  • A MAGA and his money are soon parted.

  • Charter schools have always been a scam.

  • Classical charter schools offer a curriculum with a Eurocentric focus that stresses traditional values and introduces primary source documents like the U.S. Constitution at an early age

    Excuse me CBS, WTF?

  • Because charter school are a grift.

  • I’m shocked, I say. Who could have seen this coming.