• u/Plieu625, your post does fit the subreddit!

    See OP's reply-comment below for context on why this fits this subreddit.

  • “Are you really pro-life if you don’t care about the mother’s life too?” Jess asks. “Doctors shouldn’t be afraid to do their job, but in Iowa, they are. This isn’t what we voted for.”

    oh, there it is

    I dont understand the "this isnt what we voted for," its literally exactly what they promised

    No no, they voted for it to happen to OTHER people. Their situation is different because it’s them.

    always gonna upvote this link.

    Yep. Every time. 🙌🏼

    Sorry. Are all the stories about anti abortionist getting an abortion then going back to being anti?

    They should all be outed. No anti should be respected with privacy. Fuck them!

    Yes, in some incidents there are reports who are joining back the picket line for anti aborting, just after getting abortion themselves

    They think if they can be the reason someone else decides not to it will mitigate their guilt for making that choice themselves. Believing that you murdered your own baby has got to be soul crushing thing to live with for someone like that and I don't think they can give themselves the self compassion to forgive that choice so they direct it at other women.

    I don't think they feel guilty. The one that I know personally told me that she didn't have a choice. She was married and active in a prolife church. She found out she was pregnant right after she caught her husband in bed with another woman.

    She stayed married to that jerk for a couple more years before she caught him again and divorced him.

    She is still active in a prolife church. She still votes Republican. She still says abortion is murder.

    But her situation was different. She had no choice.

    They don't feel guilty. They just want everyone else to feel guilty.

    did you repeatedly laugh directly in her fucking face lol

    I remember reading an article that a patient was actively cursing the practitioner for her sins during the process of her abortion.

    She was a victim and her need for an abortion was for a good reason unlike all the teen girls and people of color who are irresponsible and have no self control. It’s gods plan to conceive when it is someone else. What makes your acquaintance even more of a hypocrite is that she was pregnant by HER HUSBAND. She didn’t get knocked up by his affair partner.

    Did you read the article? These are examples (dozens of them) of women who protest abortions, then get one, then continue to protest., not women who had an abortion years ago and are now protesting to assuage their guilt.

    An example:

    “I’ve had several cases over the years in which the anti-abortion patient had rationalized in one way or another that her case was the only exception, but the one that really made an impression was the college senior who was the president of her campus Right-to-Life organization, meaning that she had worked very hard in that organization for several years. As I was completing her procedure, I asked what she planned to do about her high office in the RTL organization. Her response was a wide-eyed, ‘You’re not going to tell them, are you!?’ When assured that I was not, she breathed a sigh of relief, explaining how important that position was to her and how she wouldn’t want this to interfere with it.” (Physician, Texas)

    I really doubt that’s what most of them feel. I think most of them feel entitled to the care, because it is for them and they are the “elite,” but they still want to deny it to others. The cruelty is the point

    It’s mainly a cocktail of Main Character Syndrome and hypocrisy. “But…but you don’t understand…I had to get an abortion! My situation was special!”

    Plenty of them are also hateful, but you don’t have to seek to actively harm others to be totally self-absorbed.

    Call it what it is, Narcissistic often malignantly so

    In my experience it's not even that

    They just genuinely believe other people are getting them for the 'wrong' reasons, while they and those they care about did it for the 'right' reasons.

    "Steph got hers because she's not ready to be a parent and it was an accident, it's different! Normally it's sluts who can't keep their legs closed!"

    Well then their toxic bullshit needs a reality check

    I swear to God (and I'm an atheist but I'd do it in this case) that if I was another patient in that facility and saw a protestor getting their abortion then back out protesting next week, I'd be naming and shaming. Fuck her. The staff there have an oath. I don't.

    Unlike those people, staff in those places have morals and follow the rules. They wouldn't allow themselves to do it. But us non medical people...

    The Boston stories piss me off. It’s not about babies at all it’s about controlling people and being assholes to women. My college dorm in Boston was 1/2 block down the street from a planned parenthood and the next building past that was the only grocery store for miles. Every time I wanted milk or snacks I had to hear about how I was going to hell and get spit on. I wish I knew some more legal nuances back then because I would have involved the police when they forgot themselves and assaulted me (spitting, hitting with signs).

    When i was much younger, I had a similar experience. I went into PP for birth control. Frankly, doesn’t matter why I was there. On my way out, I had a protester spit on me yelling that I should have been aborted. (Yay, hypocrisy!). I went back in, and used their phone to call the cops on him for non-peaceful protest. The nice folks in PP apologized (like it was their fault?!), and then thanked me for calling the cops. Of course, said protester was a big ol’ white dude presumably without a uterus who, according to the folks there, had been harassing patients for weeks.

    Fuck that guy. Support Planned Parenthood!

    I went PP for my psp smear. Got screamed at sbout how I was killing my baby. I was a virgin.

    That's why I volunteered as a clinic escort there for years. I did have to file a police report once against the protesters, but being a calm, welcoming face for patients was worth it.

    When I did my college internship, I unknowingly lived right next door to the only abortion clinic in the state. I didn’t even realize it until the first day the protestors were there on the sidewalk as I was trying to get past them to get into my apartment but I was jeered and screamed at. One escort told me they were there every day and offered to walk me through in the future, even though I clearly wasn’t going in. I started to carry candy bars to offer them as a little reward for being good people to come out and shield terrified women from that experience. I don’t think anyone ever even took up on one but they liked being offered.

    Then they held the national antiabortion convention in my city that summer. The theme was something about getting your kids involved in antiabortion activism early. They rented these trucks and put super graphic pictures on them and paid them to drive around town as moving billboards. And they covered my entire block all week protesting and shoving cameras in passerby’s faces to try to catch them off guard with their questions and sang hymns on the streetcars with their children. The clinic wasn’t even open that week since they knew the convention was there. Fucking stupid. These grown men kept sending their kids up to me while I was trying to get in my building and asking things like “do you murder babies? Does it bother you to live next door to a place that murders babies?” While filming. I patiently got down to their level and told them that god might love everyone but he would be awfully disappointed in their hateful hearts right now. I told one dad with feigned sympathy that I was really sorry that the daughter next to him would probably cut contact when she realized he hated her and wanted to control her bodily autonomy just to watch him sputter. I quoted scripture. I told one kid that the evil crowd that if crucified Jesus spit on him too. I told another that god is love, they don’t seem to have room in the hearts for him since it was so full of hate.

    I wasn’t actively trying to engage, mind you. I was walking way out into the street to avoid the mob and still they would send kids out to meet me. The cops had to start enforcing a strict boundary bc they would surge towards anyone who walked by to shove cameras in your face and ask gotcha questions for their sizzle reel. I made damn sure to say stuff I hoped they wouldn’t use bc it might make too many people question their beliefs. And I hope I planted seeds of doubt in at least some of those kids’ minds.

    Fuck the protestors. But especially fuc that convention for actively trying to bring the kids into it. Thank you for being an escort! You are awesome and deserve a lot of candy bars!

    I love this article but when I read it to my now ex he said it was probably all made up. At this point, I feel like every time you want to say anything to a man, you have to come with video evidence and time stamps or else you are "exaggerating" and even then ..

    As a man myself, I’m going to have to ask you to be less hysterical. Please. Help me help you. Your hysteria can be remedied, but you need to calm down. You’re working yourself up! Have you tried being more relaxed?

    Haha. Sorry, I couldn’t write any more of that nonsense. Men are fucking stupid, and I know this for a fact. There are good ones out there (I think I’m pretty cool), but you ladies should never have to put up with assholes like your ex. By the way, I’m glad you said he was your ex because fuck that guy. You deserve better.

    No, they white and christian. That gives them right to have an abortion because it is morally right for them. It also gives them the right to take away your right to an abortion because that is morally wrong.

    What they didn't vote was the fascist Mango to affect them just everyone else.

    Our governor was and is pretty clear she wants a total abortion ban, we'll from 6 weeks on...which is basically a total ban. If this lady voted for K(KK)im Reynolds this is EXACTLY what she voted for.

    Yes, she’s white. She never thought the government would oppress white people, just those ‘other people’.

    I hope she's sterile after this experience. I do not want her breeding more stupid.

    Abortions and terminations only happen because mothers are murderers and choose to do it. That's their belief. No other reason to abort.

    They could never get it through their head that some or even most want kids and abort due to health complications.

    I want to tag onto this comment that the issue is the term. "Abortion."

    They honestly believe that "abortion" directly translates to "killing and/or dismembering a perfect, innocent baby for no good reason." The conservative propaganda machine has done an excellent job convincing their voting base that there's some other, magical term for terminating an unviable or life threatening pregnancy.

    I always forget this until I watch actual physicians testify in Congress on the matter and realize that even politicians these days don't get that "abortion" is just a procedural term for the process, regardless of reason.

    yes, abortion stops the process. spontaneous abortion = miscarriage. (pregnancy is what is aborted). what do politicians think it means?

    Remember when anti-abortion people were shocked at the idea that women could get charged with manslaughter for miscarriages?

    Yeah, the ads always show a cute baby that has been born, not a scale representation of the embryo, and never a photo of a malformed fetus or a very sick woman who might die without the appropriate intervention.

    Sadly that’s the only thing that will convince republicans. Until it hits them personally in the face it doesn’t matter and then it’s Biden’s fault.

    How fucking broken do you have to be as a person to not understand why paid maternity leave exists? Like, what is wrong with you?

    > Like, what is wrong with you?

    Um, you're a Republican? 'Cuz it really is that easy....

    This is the same woman who supported Trump after he insulted, attacked, and humiliated her father. Meghan is just a complete self absorbed idiot who is only capable of empathy for herself.

    They will then promptly forget when they are no longer being actively inconvenienced.

    Correct. They will run kids over on their way to vote Republican again the day after their lives return to being comfortable enough for them.

    Living in Florida has taught me even when it fucks them over they continue to vote for the people fucking them with unlubed dildos.

    The dildo of consequences rarely arrives lubed

    Homelander's Star Spangled Banger uses the tears of Patriots everywhere to drive Freedom where it is most deserved!

    Kentucky just kept reelecting McConnell even though their state was nearly dead last in everything.

    “But if we voted for democrats it’d be worse!”

    They actually don't become convinced and spit on the doctor doing the opp. They're extremely good at double think.

    I remember reading (in multiple articles on the subject of legal abortion) that very conservative women will sometimes inform the doctors that they're going to hell for performing abortions, as they are literally getting said abortions. People's potential for hypocrisy really shouldn't surprise me anymore.

    My best friend has been saying for years that Democrats need to stop protecting the morons in this country.

    So many people don't know how bad shit can get because after republicans win and start destorying shit, eventually Democrats win and use up all political good well to simply fix what Republicans destoryed, then the moronic voter puts republicans back in charge because "Democrats didn't fix everything quickly enough.". 

    Rules for thee not me

    because it's condition based. others do not meet it, but they do.

    It's mind boggling. They said they were going to do exactly this. They were literally shouting it from the roof tops. And still their voters claim they had no idea and this "isn't what we voted for". 

    “What do you say to your supporters that say this isn’t what they voted for?”

    “But it is.” - Trump

    It’s wild that we all noticed these consequences while conservatives were completely blind to them. Huh.

    Subtext - 'I never thought it was going to affect me! Only those 'others''

    Just another example of the 'only moral abortion is my own' tripe.

    In the video, she calls herself a "hardworking mother who positively contributes to society" or something like that. So she ABSOLUTELY thinks she's "different."

    Also, in the video, she keeps using the word "fetus." So when your baby is killing you, it suddenly becomes a "fetus"/clump of cells, but when other women need abortions, they are "killing babies."

    The AUDACITY.

    Yup, the pro-birthers like to totally forget the words "embro" and "fetus" even exist.

    I mean, until it's their life at risk.

    It's almost like you want a separation of religious ideology from basic medical and government perspectives that just cover us all from basic shared threats. A facts over feelings kind of thing because faith gets zealous. Some kind of church and state split in terms of government.

    I'm trying to figure out a way to phrase that...

    I actually got to hear abortion praised in a church once. My aunt was a longtime OB/GYN in South Carolina. She unfortunately died last year, but it was absolutely amazing to me that at her funeral the pastor of her church talked about how she saved his daughter’s life by doing a D&C during her first pregnancy and because of my aunt, she was able to go on to have multiple kids later. I was just gobsmacked sitting in a church (built in the 1700s mind you) listening to him talk about this. I’m honestly glad she never had to deal with the post-Roe world of healthcare. I think she would have happily gone to jail rather than deny a woman the care she needed.

    It's almost like something that should be put in some kind of national document.

    I'm not sure if we have the constitution for this kind of discussion.

    Do you have a link to the video? I'm not finding it....

    Edit: I found this. I don't know if it's the full video:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O53dPn-lCIc

    She worked hard her whole life to make this happen. I'm glad that she's changed her tune after having the experience. Before I give a shit about her though, I would love to hear what she thinks about gay rights or ICE. Because she is probably still a horrible person on everything else.

    It's amazing how she avoids saying the word abortion or termination of her pregnancy anywhere in that video, even as she talks about getting religion out of politics and health care and her body. And then she has the nerve to say she's going to do a series about this. Say the word, make people think about what they're banning. She won't even say abortion even when she's indignant that no one is helping her get one.

    I just checked her Instagram and she still follows Trump, Vance, etc. She’d 100% vote for them or any other Republican in the future.

    Textbook cognitive dissonance.

    Trump really could kill someone on the street and people like her would still vote for him. In a way, he almost killed her and she doesn't care.

    She also uses 'care' instead of 'abortion'. 

    This isn't even unintended consequences, like inexplicably thinking Trump was for the working man, they voted no abortions and they got no abortions

    This isn't trump, it's republicans. Sadly, she'll still vote republican next time.

    If yam tits hadn't won in 16, abortions wouldn't be banned now. Trump and the republicans did it.

    I don't believe trump has the mental bandwidth to have formed opinions on so many subjects. He just parrots back whatever his advisors put into his head. So it's republicans. When trump is out of the picture (assuming he doesn't declare himself "President for Life") republicans will still be making vile and heartless policies unless people stop voting for them.

    Demonize republicans, the way they have demonized democrats. It may not be constructive politics, but to make a positive difference, first you have to get into power.

    “I was fine when it hurt others, but not me!” is the Republican mantra

    “He’s not hurting the people he needs to be hurting.”

    It's not just fine, it's actually desired. They get satisfaction from knowing they have hurt other people.

    They voted for vindication. They didn’t care about or thibk about policy, and many of them probably weren’t even really trying to actively hurt brown/poor /LGBT people. They wanted to be part of a movement that meant something and where they would get everything they wanted and nothing they didn’t want

    What they mean is “I made something up in my head and voted for it—but bc it didn’t exist, the thing I put my vote next to was the thing that looked most like it if I squinted really hard”. It is important to recognize that they genuinely think they can take their votes back by saying “this wasn’t what I intended to purchase!” as though it’s a private contract and they can effectively argue no meeting of the minds

    "Historians have a word for Germans who joined the Nazi party, not because they hated Jews, but out of a hope for restored patriotism, or a sense of economic anxiety, or a hope to preserve their religious values, or dislike of their opponents, or raw political opportunism, or convenience, or ignorance, or greed.

    That word is "Nazi." Nobody cares about their motives anymore.

    They joined what they joined. They lent their support and their moral approval. And, in so doing, they bound themselves to everything that came after. Who cares any more what particular knot they used in the binding?"

    A.R. Moxon

    "We are what we pretend to be."

    That’s why they all said “he tells it like it is”. They were hearing what they wanted to hear. Trump never really says anything coherent so they just filled in the blanks with their tots and pears.

    It's unfortunate the US was designed to give rural conservatives a far outsized voice and influence in national politics.

    "We were too dumb and uncaring to bother understanding what we were voting for."

    There, I fixed all of these posts.

    “Are you really pro-life if you don’t care about the mother’s life too?”

    No. That’s called pro-choice, which Democrats support.

    Maybe Republicans are just Democrats who haven’t faced these hardships yet 🤔.

    Ie maybe they’re just stupid and incapable of empathy or understanding that they may be in these situations one day.

    Well, if they call empathy a sin...

    Yeah, fuck these assholes. People have been telling them for decades this is what they're voting for, but now that it's bitten them in the ass they're claiming it's not..

    Seriously, fuck 'em. Let them enjoy the misery and harm they wanted for other people.

    Their job description changed from her vote.

    🎶 Whoomp! There it is! Whoomp! there it is! 🎶

    How many times do you think she's heard this argument from others and rejected it?

  • As an ER Physician - it's hard to be sympathetic. Poor and minority women have been disproportionally hurt by abortion bans.

    What? It wasn't enough for them when ER Doctor Professional organizations and OB/GYN Professional Organizations told them that THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT WOULD HAPPEN?

    The arrogance is baffling. You didn't care, because you never thought it would happen to you. If it never happened to you, you still wouldn't care in spite of the multitude of women who have died from abortion restrictions..

    It would be like supporting banning cardiac caths because you think you'll never have a heart attack. No one ever thinks they are going to be sick until they are.

    You know what you should have done, Jessica? Drive to Illinois or Missouri where abortion is legal for a medically necessary abortion and hope you don't get prosecuted when you cross state lines.

    BTW, that is how Roe V. Wade started.

    Credit where due, she now sees clearly - whoever she got there - and appears to be advocating for change. And if change is going to happen, it will have to be from the conservative women, because no one wants to listen to us or anyone deemed liberal.

    Yeah but they did their own research

    Most of these people couldn't sketch out the female GU system and adequately explain what happens during a cycle and fertilization.

    That includes the women.

    That includes the women.

    Can confirm.

    I’m an IVF nurse and a shocking amount of women do not understand the menstrual cycle.

    This is the successful result of abstinence only sex education.

    my gf is a nurse and i tell her all the time about how an uncomfortable amount of women dont know basic feminine care like picking the right bra size and tracking your cycle. You see signs of it in public a lot. AND IM A DUDE.

    Its such a shame our society has turned the discussion normal body functions to taboo and 'inappropriate'

    Puritanism go brrrr

    Most of these folks couldn't rough out a 300 word draft paragraph on what "research" actually is, either. But they like to have opinions.

    But TikTok didn’t say this would happen….

    They also blame YOU. 

    They say doctors failed. Doctors didn’t do enough. Argue this is malpractice 

    In a sane world denying appropriate care to a sick pregnant person would be wrong. 

    But America legalized it

    Yeah this is the worst part. Like that cunt (R) rep in Florida (?) who nearly died and bitched the doctors wouldn’t help her ABORT her “baby” also that nearly killed her.

    Thought it was god’s mysterious ways and all that

    The one DeSantis got an exception for? She got lucky, didn't she 🙄 Still gonna fuck over every other woman in the state but at least the governor will acknowledge her.

    Just found The Guardian article on it. She’s very clear that she didn’t have an “abortion,” she had medical “care.” 🤦‍♀️

    I am well aware. The thing is, it is malpractice. However, I am not sure how malpractice applies when the standard of care is illegal.

    Insurance is going to mandate following the law so they would most likely cover the doctor against her in this case but not if he gave her the abortion something went wrong and she sued. ‘MERICA

    Yeah, but they weren't around to see, hear, and know actual people affected by the bans before Roe v. Wade.

    Just like the "Trad Wives" who weren't around and can't remember what it was like when women weren't really allowed to work or only really had access to limited types of jobs, couldn't get bank accounts or credit cards, much less a mortgage, on their own without a male cosigner. Let's not even get started on the people forgetting how hard women had to fight to vote so that "Trad Wives" could have their vote dictated by their husband.

    Screwing up the world for my daughter for their instagram likes. Ceding all the hard fought battles that women have fought and won to have a degree of equal rights. They won't realize how screwed over they are until it's too late.

    Credit where due, she now sees clearly ... and appears to be advocating for change.

    I don't see that at all tbh. It's just the "Oh woe is me, I thought this type of thing only happened to the black people!" type of wailing.

    Like, I went out of my way to find her video and listened to her speaking about it. She's just, and I'm quoting her here, "pissed". That's it. She's angry it happened to her. Her husband is the same. He blamed the doctors!

    The best that both of them said was a vague "politics and religion have no place in healthcare" but this is bs because they absolutely fucking do??? They themselves talk about their politics and their religion, and how voting based on them impacted their healthcare, and then they say without a shred of irony that politics and religion shouldn't mix with healthcare... Are you fucking kidding me?

    They still don't think that abortion should be legal and they still don't give a speck of rat shit for the lives of other humans. No lesson was learned here, they are just indignant that the universe didn't treat them as the special people they see themselves as. Just dogshit people

    I don't even try to have sympathy for people like this. It's what she wanted! I hope she's enjoying it.

    If you check out her public facebook profile, it appears that she is.

    Hey, hey, whoah now.... They didn't think it would ever affect them and you are being awfully cruel by holding them accountable for their actions. They're good people, unlike all those sluts and whores who have sex and want to abort a baby because they don't want to be held... accountable... for their ac....

    Hold on a second I think I just figured something out

    (Editor's note: this story is pure fantasy, as no conservative alive has ever figured something out unless and until it has directly affected them personally)

    But they deem them liberal the second they diverge from the cult thinking. I guess at least it maybe means losing voters but these people are often so far gone they just couldn’t bring themselves not to vote for them, even if they’ve destroyed their job and health, traumatised their kids by kidnapping their friends parents from the school playground wearing masks while their friend screams and cries having to watch their mommy be carted off to a concentration camp, killed their grandma by taking away the money she lived on etc.

  • Remember to immediately send her to prison if she miscarries

    Ya know, the things she voted for

    She obviously was negligent by not praying harder.

    It was all in god's plan..... obviously. /s

    1. Jessica, votes conservative because of her beliefs

    2. Because of Jessica’s conservative vote, her very own state that is red Iowa, denied her emergency healthcare for a fatal pregnancy.

    3. As a result, she almost died because of it

    She is still going to vote red.

    Also she most likely blames hunter Bidens laptop for the ordiel.

    Because she is stupid af. And if she dies dont worry hubby will marry his next bangmaid to take care of the kid

    Pretty sure she blamed Dijon mustard for this one

    Uh oh. Hunter’s laptop crapped my pants again!

    Don’t think I’ve ever seen ordeal spelt that way 

    She's still gonna vote red and clearly it was all a mistake. But she's likely not gonna get pregnant again. But this gal is going to find out it doesn't end when it comes to women's health. There are so many wonderful wonderful experiences coming her way in this great state of Iowa and our wonderful wonderful healthcare system.

    Wait till she finds out all the costs involved with just about eveything. She probably still going to have some wonderful wonderful bills from the hospital.

    I for one am thankful that her state held her to her beliefs.

    She too will be thankful for that when she's standing at the pearly gates

    I feel like Jesus would have talked about abortion if it had been that important to him, since abortions were a thing even in his day.

    Numbers 5:11-29, where God (not Jesus) commands the priest perform an abortion.

    I wonder why Mel Gibson hasn't made a movie about this Bible story...

    Yes they were and they're in the Bible too.

    Pearly gates? Nah god’s plan was clearly for her to die due to the pregnancy complications and she selfishly went against god’s will not to mention her own conservative Christian principles by seeking an abortion. Enjoy the eternal damnation of endless torture and suffering that awaits you in the afterlife down in the bowels of hades Jessica! Say hi to Satan for me.

    FAFO Jessica, FAFO.

    She was fine with women and teenage girls bleeding out in hospital parking lots so not sure why she's complaining now. I'm a guy and voted to not deprive her of essential medical care. She voted to deprive herself of it and millions of other people + child rape victims. So she's a vile hypocrite for complaining.

    Almost doesn't count. I'm sure she learned nothing

    Ah… The good ol “the only moral abortion is my abortion.” argument.

    She voted for that. Seriously wish these folks thought more pragmatically as in what if this were me? Argh.

  • So apparently they told her to either miscarry at home, wait it out, or google remedies

    Ivermectrin?? Bleach???

    Bleachermectin, get it at patriotsuppliesusa.ru

    leeches at noon, evening and before she goes to bed.

    Reading between the lines, it sounds like she had a septic miscarriage and almost died of septic shock. There is no other remedy other than a D&C.

    Which is considered an abortion by insurance standards. So if she's meant to die than she dies at home.

    Well, yeah, can't have her messing up the hospital's mortality statistics.

    If it’s god’s will..

    My aunt was a longtime OB/GYN and at her funeral, in a very historic South Carolina church, the pastor was praising her for saving his daughter’s life during her first pregnancy with a D&C. She lived and went on to have multiple kids, that my aunt delivered. I was fully blown away hearing that story in a church. I miss her bigly, but I’m glad she doesn’t have to deal with the post-Roe world of healthcare.

    This is the best source I could find. She posted a link to a facebook reel that was shared to the page of Iowa Coalition for Reproductive Freedom. No article or anything. My amateur transcription:

    I am a wrestling coach in Iowa, mother of four. I voted conservative. The craziest thing has happened to me a few weeks ago and I really feel the need to share it from the position of a very pissed-off, conservative, Christian woman. I almost died, I almost died because I was denied medical care here in Iowa after being diagnosed with a fatal fetus so my baby was not going to make it. There was no chance of it. We got multiple opinions, no chance, no chance.

    Shortly after that my health started to rapidly decline and I was not able to seek care in a timely manner nearly at all without really, truly advocating for myself. And I almost died. And in 2025 America I don't think that should even have to be possibly an option. I was told to miscarry at home or wait it out or ask Google what to do when I asked where I could go for a resolution to my problem. "Sorry, we, our hands our hands are tied. We can't tell you." What is the point of you? Why am I hitting up Google and ChatGPT for my medical advice? Like, what in the world?

    So I had a fetus in me that's poisoning me from the inside out. I have three healthy, lovely children at home, a business to run, a husband, and I'm not allowed to choose me? Where's the pro-life in that? Pro-life, like, choose me, choose the mother, we're completely forgetting the mother in this situation. At no point should a dying fetus have more precedence in a healthcare system over a healthy mother who's contributing positively to society, like, my God, please help us. Like, this is not what we voted for you guys, this is not it.

    Doctors should not be afraid to do their job and that is the case here in Iowa. It's not that they don't want to help us, it's that they are afraid to do their job and save our lives. Politics and religion have no place in healthcare, they have no place on my body, on my health. So I'm gonna do a series on this. If you have any questions, any comments, if you are going through something similar or know someone who is, let's get into this.

    I have zero sympathy. None whatsoever. Seriously reading this made my blood BOIL, how can she sit there and bitch and whine and say "pro life what about the mothers life???" Like bitch WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN FOR THE LAST 5-10 YEARS?

    And yea ok glad she came to that conclusion. Maybe she will vote better in the future. But we know she won't. Thats what's so infuriating. She will do the same thing over and over again asking "wait, why is the square peg not fitting into the circle hole? I really need it to fit in there just this once, and that nice orange man said that it would fit. So why won't it fit?"

    She and her braincells can go take a seat, all two of them. Whiny ass bitch.

    When do they realize that in the US (especially now) conservative = a woman's life has absolutely no value and no, a woman is not allowed to "choose herself". That's just a simple fact. 

  • Fuck Jessica. If it wasn’t affecting her then she and her husband wouldn’t give a shit.

  • Reminds me of the abortion the Duggar broodmare had and was “ok” because they want lots of babies.

    Abortion is healthcare, the only other option is sepsis wards or dead bodies on lawns of hospitals in general. Leopard, feast— she should be tenderized.

    Haven’t you heard? Wyoming conservatives are trying to declare that abortion is not healthcare.

    https://statecourtreport.org/our-work/analysis-opinion/wyoming-supreme-court-set-decide-whether-abortion-health-care

    Why? Because in response to the introduction of the ACA (“Obamacare”) the State Constitution was amended by the GOP that people had the right to make their own healthcare decisions (as a way to prevent the Feds from “forcing”universal healthcare on people). This backfired when they tried to ban abortions because, well, people had the right to make their own healthcare decisions!

    Solution? Try to declare abortions are not healthcare.

    Yep--and Jessa's husband and others trying to keep people from pointing out the hypocrisy. But she's had another baby or two since, so wasn't it a blessing to get the healthcare she needed so they could continue their uneducated brood of soldiers for Jesus?

  • Why do these clowns feel the need to tell us they are "religious?"

    How about try not to be a dick to everyone. Let's start there first.

    Because the US has heavily backed religious privilege, especially Christian privilege. It's a privilege card.

  • I feel bad that I don’t feel bad for her. She voted for other women to die so why the fuck should I care if she survives or not?! They keep asking for sympathy when they couldn’t ever muster an ounce of empathy for other women. 

    People asking for empathy when they have none themselves.

    Yeah these people have broken my ability to have empathy. There's only so many times you can warn someone not to stick their hand in a wood chipper before you just give up and let them maim themselves. Well Trump and his cronies are your wood chipper lady, good luck with that!

  • Isn’t it very interesting, that the people who think empathy is a sin, are the same people who can’t understand anything until it happens to them personally? Funny how that works.

  • She is a sacrifice that I am willing to make.

    Praise jeeeeeesus.

    Tots and- Hmm, actually, since the would-be tot hasn't made it out of the womb alive, I guess that just leaves the pears 🤷‍♂️

  • If only someone had told them what they were voting for! Oh, wait......

  • Even after all that, she refuses to acknowledge that she needed an abortion.

  • Shut up Jessica. You voted for this. This is the reality that you, and those like you have created. So stop your whining, and deal with it. The rest of us don't care. We're fresh out of empathy for the likes of you.

  • Can’t believe Biden did this to her.

    Just waiting for them to blame President Biden.

  • Only care when it personally effected them …. Sounds familiar

  • “I lost my baby and almost lost my life for something that was completely avoidable! This isn’t what I voted for! Anyways, gonna vote Republican again next time.”

  • Fuck you and your husband, Jessica : that orange shitstain is a rapist, a convicted criminal felon, a vapid racist, a corrupt fraudster, a narcissistic pathological liar and even a suspected pedophile.

    Yet you, your husband and MAGA followers voted for him, because you wanted to follow some stupid, "own the Libs" agenda. Or even worse because you wanted to push a racist, religious, anti-immigration or anti-diversity agenda on the American society.

    But Trump and his monkey Court are now systematically dismantling the foundations of the American democracy, its checks and balances, and its institutions, helped and abided by the corrupt Supreme Court. They are also destroying a world order that took 80 years to build, empowering dictators and fascists, and creating a very dangerous future for our - four your! - children. And lastly they are dialing back all progress made on protection of the environment, leaving a garbage earth for your children.

    Oh, almost forgot, and they are funneling obscene amounts of wealth out from the average American family's pockets, your pockets, and unto the hands of a few oligarchs (while illegally enriching the Trump family).

    So, Fuck you. Enjoy the fallout from the treason of your Pedo President.

    Funny thing to add, her husband is an immigrant.

  • No way, the exact thing everyone said would happen actually happened???

    It's almost like abortion was legalized for a whole bunch of very good reasons!

  • Sorry Jessica. You are a woman in a Red State.

  • Democrats= care about it, no matter who it happens to.

    Republicans= only care about it if it happens to them.

  • This is exactly the situation where conservatives and conservative state law direct the woman to martyr themselves in service of the dead fetus.

    Jessica should be prosecuted under the very laws she supports.

  • Red states don’t give a fuck about woman. Who knew

    I, for one, am shocked. /s

  • No sympathy for her. It's what she voted for. You won, congrats. Enjoy.

  • These people have all the processing power of a turnip. "This isn't what I voted for" they wail after everyone with the mental faculties god gave a brain dead gibbon told them this is exactly what would happen.

  • Good. Conservatives are experiential learners.

    This is going to have to keep happening and affecting them before they realize that Roe was necessary.

    Fortunately, pregnancy complications are common, so they’ll have lots of learning opportunities.

  • Yt blond lady shocked her privilege life has limits , film at 11

  • I wish these people would just shut the fuck up already. Just constantly whining about every little thing.

    Have they even said thank you once?

  • Blaming the asshole in the mirror for shitting in their pants.

  • Djukanovic? Doesn't sound very American to me. Must be one of those foreign people.

  • So she wanted an abortion. But before this she didn't understand what that word really meant in medical terms. She did vote for this.

  • lol “shed new light on how the American Conservative Party propagandizes voters like them for power….”

    This is in no way new light. This very much existed before, they just refused to acknowledge it.

  • You were cornered BY YOURSELF.

    STOP IT.

  • I hope it hurts as much as the pain her votes have inflicted on the rest of us.

  • "Have the healthcare you voted for."