If I tried pulling this at my job I’d have been fired like 43 times already and blacklisted for life on every job board. The least LAWA can do is never use this contractor again, but instead… they hire them back for another billion dollar road project. Where can I get a job that gives me bonuses for being the most incompetent dipshit imaginable?
The administrative requirements may reference the Los Angeles City Charter (LACC), Los Angeles Municipal Code (LAMC), and Los Angeles Administrative Code (LAAC), which are the source authority for the requirements.
Dude, you really don't understand how this works. LAWA is the trade name for the Department of Airports, which is a department of the city, just like the police department or the fire department or the library department. They just call themselves LA World Airports because it sounds fancier.
Correct. It's even listed under City of LA's own Department & Bureau directory webpage along side the LAPD, LAFD and LAPL, it's literally #2 on the list.
Taken exactly from the City of LA's own directory webpage:
Airports, Los Angeles World
The Los Angeles World Airports, under its Board of Commissioners, is responsible for the management, supervision, and control of all airports and airport facilities under the jurisdiction of the City of Los Angeles. These airports are: The Los Angeles International Airport (LAX); The Ontario International Airport (ONT); The Van Nuys Airport (VNY); and The Palmdale Regional Airport (PMD). These airports are among the busiest in the world.
I think the Ontario Airport part is outdated though since it's now operated by the Ontario International Airport Authority since 2016, which in itself is telling that City of LA can't even manage their webpage properly for the past 10 years.
If City of LA for all it's tax dollars it gets can't even remove the "The Ontario International Airport (ONT)" out of an HTML code for 10 years, then that speaks volumes that the city is incapable of running anything. It's something that even your average 6th grader could do in a second.
I’ve put together multiple Engineering and Construction Proposals for projects with LAWA. GreenHorror4252 is right, while LAWA is technically a city entity, it functions pretty much entirely independently and has its own revenue source that is fee-based, not tax-payer/general fund based like other city agencies.
When you are bidding on LAWA work you are bidding to LAWA and their board accept or doesn’t accept the scoring committee’s recommendation. The LA City Council and the Mayor have no direct say.
All departments get a mix of funding sources. Even the police department gets federal funding for certain things. That doesn't mean anything. The governance structure of LAPD and LAWA is also exactly the same.
LA Metro is not a county department in any sense. The county government has zero control over Metro. It is a completely separate entity that serves the same geographical area as the county.
No idea why two days later we're still stretching to try and make a stupid conspiracy possible, but you do you. I've got better things to do than to try and help y'all navigate life.
If the City of LA has nothing to do with it, then why is "Airports, Los Angeles World" is listed under City of Los Angeles Department & Bureaus alongside other agencies like the LAPL, the LA Zoo, LAPD, LAFD, the Port of LA, LADWP, etc. etc.
If it's under the same directory under City of LA's own Department & Bureaus along side other city agencies, it basically is a city level agency. It doesn't matter if it is administered by a specific board of commissioners, much like how LADWP or the LAPD has it's own board of commissioners too; in the end, the Mayor and LA City Council own up to it so long as City of LA admits and lists these agencies are under their control on their own city webpage.
Otherwise, are you going to say like the Pacific Palisades fire, City of LA Mayor has no fault for that as she vacationed somewhere during that crisis and just blame the LAFD fire chief? That certainly sounds a lot like Karen Bass and she got roasted for that.
I'm sorry you can't admit you're wrong on this one. I can't help you with your sunk-cost conspiracy that falls apart if you merely acknowledge objective fact.
Only you can help you now. I hope you'll do more research than your attempts to salvage your bad theory with shallow, cherry-picked Google excerpts.
So the City of LA Department & Bureau webpage is wrong? If it's wrong that's a problem in itself where the city is claiming to oversee an organization or agency they have no control over. So City of LA taxpayers aren't footing the bill for another billion dollars to complete the 0.00001%? What are they footing the bill for then, the money has to come from somewhere.
LAWA administrators their own contracts and uses their own fund generated outside the city’s coffers. Yes, LAWA is technically a city entity, and the mayor has a say who is on the LAWA board, but it’s not a city agency in the way that parks and rec is.
When you work with LAWA they hire you, and their contracts don’t go to the city council to approve. Also, the proposal process is very cumbersome and points based, their isn’t much of a way for contractors to influence the vote like their is on smaller city contracts.
LAWA administrators their own contracts and uses their own fund generated outside the city’s coffers
Well then did the LA City Council overstep its authority when it approved $400 million last year? How does that work when LAWA says it doesn't use funds from the city but the city says ok we'll give them $400 million and keep our fingers crossed that they don't ask for more (and they are asking for another billion).
It’s complicated, but while FlatironDragados is a part of the LINX JV (The design-build team of Fluor, Balfour Beatty Infrastructure, Inc., Flatiron West, Inc., and Dragados USA, Inc. ) LAWA was pretty happy with the portions of the work completed by what is now FlatironDragados (Flatiron and Dragados were integrated into one firm in 2025). Each of the LINX JV members had their own scope and areas of expertise, and FlatironDragados’ work was completed nearly two years ago. So it’s not as straightforward as LINX JV=FlatironDragados. And, generally, to this day LAWA is still happy with the work they did (which isn’t something that can be said for all the JV’s members.
The other thing to know is that the LAX Airfield and Terminal Modernization Program (ATMP) Landside Improvements Project contract was awarded maybe two and half years ago to the Skanska/Flatiron/HNTB team. Maybe LAWA might be more critical of a team with FlatironDragados on it now, but I doubt it and seeing as how they chose not to off-ramp the JV team after pre construction and have agreed to the construction phase, LAWA won’t kick the JV out now.
LAWA was found to be liable for the delays, not the contractor
> A contract arbitrator found LAWA responsible for nearly two years of delay, and a Los Angeles County Civil Grand Jury report concluded that the project’s setbacks stemmed from a strained relationship between LAWA and the LINXS consortium, political pressure to finish the system before major regional events, and shortcomings in the contract’s dispute-resolution provisions. In total, LAWA has agreed to more than US$880 million in dispute-related payments, in addition to the project’s US$4.9 billion, 25-year cost
They have already announced it will not be ready for the 2026 World Cup (which is a complete and total failure already) so now their only real deadline is the 2028 Olympics. My prediction is we won't have this operational until sometime in late 2027 at the earliest!
They're gonna keep doing it over and over because they know it's a project that they can keep held hostage. Next year you know they're going to say well we got it up to 99.99999% now but we need another billion again for the last 0.00001%. And the city leaders are probably in on it like can't you come up with something so we can keep asking taxpayers for more money to wet our beaks too.
The CA Public Utilities Commission (CPUC) requires the system to be more or less 100% completely finished and tested for 12 months before it will permit the system for public use. The parts of the system (the Conrac and outer two LAX stations) have been done for over a year and LINX JV/LAWA we’e trying to get CPUC to allow those portions to be tested, but to no avail.
At this point we should just be calling Newsom to use executive powers to override the CPUC rule and open it up as a priority for CA to be in time for the World Cup and the Olympics. It's either waiting for more bureaucratic red tape and being the embarrassment of not getting it done on time for major world sporting events. He should be doing that if he ever wants to become POTUS, otherwise this will become his ultimate fail that he can't even get this done and he's already is a punching bag for the CAHSR delays.
This is incorrect. CPUC requires the contractor to draft a safety certification plan and execute that plan. The “one year of testing” is the estimation that the contractor safety certification plan should take.
It's not "fraud" when the city leaders are likely in on it. That speaks volumes that there's no transparency or explanation on this from both sides; neither from the city or the contractor.
Re: "In on it." I don't understand how it could possibly benefit Bass, Metro, the City Council, or the Supervisors to keep this from opening. It makes them all look incompetent.
A Los Angeles City Council committee Tuesday approved increasing the total cost of LAX's significantly delayed Automated People Mover from $2.9 billion to $3.34 billion in a bid to settle legal claims and finalize the project's completion date.
The Trade, Travel and Tourism Committee voted 4-0 in favor of an additional $400 million for the project. The L.A. World Airports Commissioners previously approved the funding on July 18, which they said is needed to address claims filed by the contractor, LAX Integrated Express Solutions, also known as LINXS, over issues related to compensation and production.
City Councilman Curren Price, who sits on the committee, recused himself, citing a conflict of interest.
Then they'll say hey if you do an investigation now, it's going to halt everything and delay things ever further. That's how they have this project by the balls.
Why does it need a full year, where did that magic number of days come from, what's it backed up by? Like is there a difference in 365 days of full testing as opposed to 364 days and 23 hours and 59 seconds?
I'd say call up Newsom and use executive powers to override that stupid rule if he ever wants to become POTUS. That's not going to look good when opponents can say you can't get the CAHSR done and you failed at the World Cup and the Olympics too with the LAX People Mover. If you can't use executive powers for something important as that, he can't get shit done in his own state, how do voters expect him to make executive decisions at the federal level.
I think the auto industry is more likely to cater towards the rental car companies at LAX which made their move to the new rental car center and getting pissed that the APM wasn't delivered as promised. That's where the car companies use new cars as advertisements; the rental cars.
Some dispute between LAWA and LINXs (the contractor), along the lines of LINXs feels that they haven’t been paid enough by LAWA and so are demanding more money (apparently up to a billion dollars), and that until then testing isn’t really happening, enough anyway, so the start date for revenue service keeps getting pushed back.
I get that it’s not technically in service yet but I saw it when it was testing a few months ago and they’re already letting the cars look like absolute shit caked in dust. If they’re not going to open it they could at the very least make sure it looks tidy when it’s whizzing by overhead
It just seems like a double whammy of “not only do you NOT get to ride this thing we’ve been dangling in front of you for years, but we’re also going to let it fall into poor maintenance so you’re extra reminded how much we don’t give a shit”
I don’t expect them to keep it out-of-the-box brand new clean, but my god take 5 minutes to hose it down when it looks like this
How does no one actually know what’s going on? Even in this thread I’ve heard 5 opposing things from different people, none of which even make sense.
Is there no one involved in this project who can give us some information? For a multi billion dollar project I would expect hundreds to thousands of people working on this. No one has come forward and explained what is happening? It seems insane to me.
If you haven't noticed, large swaths of American cities look third world. That's what happens when 10% of people do 50% of the consumer spending and 10% of people have as much wealth as the bottom 70%. You are looking at the majority of people who have remarkably little wealth considering the overall wealth of the country they exist in and contribute to.
It doesn't help that our city has ass density so the space to tax revenue ratio basically guarantees that there is little to no money put into making 95% of urban space aesthetically pleasing, and almost all public space and money for that space is allocated to car movement and storage, which always looks like shit.
https://preview.redd.it/vpflq2jfxu8g1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9a61c715d11560e81f59c552803d03f035288b7b
It's quite a sight when it pulls up at the transit center. Just wish I could ride it already.
we are sorry, we need one more bln dollars
Great, now let's try it with people.
Lol yeah right now it’s just the automated mover
Or if it moves only itself: automated automover.
It's the 99.9999% part that's done but another billion dollars more is needed for the 0.0001% to get it approved line!
If I tried pulling this at my job I’d have been fired like 43 times already and blacklisted for life on every job board. The least LAWA can do is never use this contractor again, but instead… they hire them back for another billion dollar road project. Where can I get a job that gives me bonuses for being the most incompetent dipshit imaginable?
That's how you know the city leaders are in on it; it's a contractor that they "know they can work with" (wink wink)
If there is anything more warranted of a local news investigation, this is the most sus one out there that is worth being investigated,
It's not a City project. It's LAWA.
LAWA's parent agency is the City of Los Angeles, and LAWA specifically references the LA City Charter for all administrative purposes on their webpage.
It is a LAWA project administered by LAWA, governed by a non-city, LAWA-specific board of commissioners.
It is not the City.
Dude, you really don't understand how this works. LAWA is the trade name for the Department of Airports, which is a department of the city, just like the police department or the fire department or the library department. They just call themselves LA World Airports because it sounds fancier.
Correct. It's even listed under City of LA's own Department & Bureau directory webpage along side the LAPD, LAFD and LAPL, it's literally #2 on the list.
Taken exactly from the City of LA's own directory webpage:
I think the Ontario Airport part is outdated though since it's now operated by the Ontario International Airport Authority since 2016, which in itself is telling that City of LA can't even manage their webpage properly for the past 10 years.
Wow, they haven't updated the site in a decade...
That would require someone to actually care enough to go through the hassle of caring. Quite quitting ain’t just for the private sector
If City of LA for all it's tax dollars it gets can't even remove the "The Ontario International Airport (ONT)" out of an HTML code for 10 years, then that speaks volumes that the city is incapable of running anything. It's something that even your average 6th grader could do in a second.
Still wrong, my dude. You just can't face facts.
I’ve put together multiple Engineering and Construction Proposals for projects with LAWA. GreenHorror4252 is right, while LAWA is technically a city entity, it functions pretty much entirely independently and has its own revenue source that is fee-based, not tax-payer/general fund based like other city agencies.
When you are bidding on LAWA work you are bidding to LAWA and their board accept or doesn’t accept the scoring committee’s recommendation. The LA City Council and the Mayor have no direct say.
LAWA is not just like those departments, just like LA Metro is not like other county departments. It has separate funding and governance.
Please, look up their funding source and tell me it's like the police department.
I'll wait.
All departments get a mix of funding sources. Even the police department gets federal funding for certain things. That doesn't mean anything. The governance structure of LAPD and LAWA is also exactly the same.
LA Metro is not a county department in any sense. The county government has zero control over Metro. It is a completely separate entity that serves the same geographical area as the county.
Their (LAWA's) governance is appointed by the mayor and approved by city council. It is totally possible to be corrupt in this way
No idea why two days later we're still stretching to try and make a stupid conspiracy possible, but you do you. I've got better things to do than to try and help y'all navigate life.
Sure, what does the "City Treasury" mean on the 2025 LAX Annual Financial Report page 61 mean then. Is it some imaginary theoretical City Treasury?
https://preview.redd.it/jvuwapjg5w8g1.png?width=1047&format=png&auto=webp&s=a20714fe680572f5b1639a169e07cd76a8a5d603
Not funding, dingus.
If the City of LA has nothing to do with it, then why is "Airports, Los Angeles World" is listed under City of Los Angeles Department & Bureaus alongside other agencies like the LAPL, the LA Zoo, LAPD, LAFD, the Port of LA, LADWP, etc. etc.
If it's under the same directory under City of LA's own Department & Bureaus along side other city agencies, it basically is a city level agency. It doesn't matter if it is administered by a specific board of commissioners, much like how LADWP or the LAPD has it's own board of commissioners too; in the end, the Mayor and LA City Council own up to it so long as City of LA admits and lists these agencies are under their control on their own city webpage.
Otherwise, are you going to say like the Pacific Palisades fire, City of LA Mayor has no fault for that as she vacationed somewhere during that crisis and just blame the LAFD fire chief? That certainly sounds a lot like Karen Bass and she got roasted for that.
I'm sorry you can't admit you're wrong on this one. I can't help you with your sunk-cost conspiracy that falls apart if you merely acknowledge objective fact.
Only you can help you now. I hope you'll do more research than your attempts to salvage your bad theory with shallow, cherry-picked Google excerpts.
Good luck.
So the City of LA Department & Bureau webpage is wrong? If it's wrong that's a problem in itself where the city is claiming to oversee an organization or agency they have no control over. So City of LA taxpayers aren't footing the bill for another billion dollars to complete the 0.00001%? What are they footing the bill for then, the money has to come from somewhere.
Also,
"LAWA is a proprietary department of the City of Los Angeles, which means that it receives no taxpayer funds for its operations."
Source: https://www.lawa.org/news-releases/2023/news-release-018
You're not equipped for this conversation.
That's not your initial claim, man.
LAWA administrators their own contracts and uses their own fund generated outside the city’s coffers. Yes, LAWA is technically a city entity, and the mayor has a say who is on the LAWA board, but it’s not a city agency in the way that parks and rec is.
When you work with LAWA they hire you, and their contracts don’t go to the city council to approve. Also, the proposal process is very cumbersome and points based, their isn’t much of a way for contractors to influence the vote like their is on smaller city contracts.
Well then did the LA City Council overstep its authority when it approved $400 million last year? How does that work when LAWA says it doesn't use funds from the city but the city says ok we'll give them $400 million and keep our fingers crossed that they don't ask for more (and they are asking for another billion).
It’s complicated, but while FlatironDragados is a part of the LINX JV (The design-build team of Fluor, Balfour Beatty Infrastructure, Inc., Flatiron West, Inc., and Dragados USA, Inc. ) LAWA was pretty happy with the portions of the work completed by what is now FlatironDragados (Flatiron and Dragados were integrated into one firm in 2025). Each of the LINX JV members had their own scope and areas of expertise, and FlatironDragados’ work was completed nearly two years ago. So it’s not as straightforward as LINX JV=FlatironDragados. And, generally, to this day LAWA is still happy with the work they did (which isn’t something that can be said for all the JV’s members.
The other thing to know is that the LAX Airfield and Terminal Modernization Program (ATMP) Landside Improvements Project contract was awarded maybe two and half years ago to the Skanska/Flatiron/HNTB team. Maybe LAWA might be more critical of a team with FlatironDragados on it now, but I doubt it and seeing as how they chose not to off-ramp the JV team after pre construction and have agreed to the construction phase, LAWA won’t kick the JV out now.
LAWA was found to be liable for the delays, not the contractor
> A contract arbitrator found LAWA responsible for nearly two years of delay, and a Los Angeles County Civil Grand Jury report concluded that the project’s setbacks stemmed from a strained relationship between LAWA and the LINXS consortium, political pressure to finish the system before major regional events, and shortcomings in the contract’s dispute-resolution provisions. In total, LAWA has agreed to more than US$880 million in dispute-related payments, in addition to the project’s US$4.9 billion, 25-year cost
And you just know they’ll push that shit back again.
They have already announced it will not be ready for the 2026 World Cup (which is a complete and total failure already) so now their only real deadline is the 2028 Olympics. My prediction is we won't have this operational until sometime in late 2027 at the earliest!
They're gonna keep doing it over and over because they know it's a project that they can keep held hostage. Next year you know they're going to say well we got it up to 99.99999% now but we need another billion again for the last 0.00001%. And the city leaders are probably in on it like can't you come up with something so we can keep asking taxpayers for more money to wet our beaks too.
In true LAX fashion, the APM arrived but it's still waiting for a gate to open up.
So close, yet SO SO far.
The CA Public Utilities Commission (CPUC) requires the system to be more or less 100% completely finished and tested for 12 months before it will permit the system for public use. The parts of the system (the Conrac and outer two LAX stations) have been done for over a year and LINX JV/LAWA we’e trying to get CPUC to allow those portions to be tested, but to no avail.
At this point we should just be calling Newsom to use executive powers to override the CPUC rule and open it up as a priority for CA to be in time for the World Cup and the Olympics. It's either waiting for more bureaucratic red tape and being the embarrassment of not getting it done on time for major world sporting events. He should be doing that if he ever wants to become POTUS, otherwise this will become his ultimate fail that he can't even get this done and he's already is a punching bag for the CAHSR delays.
This is incorrect. CPUC requires the contractor to draft a safety certification plan and execute that plan. The “one year of testing” is the estimation that the contractor safety certification plan should take.
Who dictates what needs to be in that safety plan, though?
The contractor. The CPUC general orders are generic.
All I can say is what I was told, LINX JV/LAWA asked CPUC if they could begin testing on the completed portions of the system and were told no
They told you a lie. Testing has been ongoing for more than a year.
I was told this two years ago,
It’s wrong.
Active testing of the cars on the tracks has been going on since before last December?
It’s frustrating to see this stuck in bureaucratic hell.
What is missing exactly? It seems to be completely done.
There’s never been real transparency or an explanation on the issue. At this point, call your state legislators and demand investigations.
I wonder if deliberate latency is considered to be fraud or not.
It's not "fraud" when the city leaders are likely in on it. That speaks volumes that there's no transparency or explanation on this from both sides; neither from the city or the contractor.
Re: "In on it." I don't understand how it could possibly benefit Bass, Metro, the City Council, or the Supervisors to keep this from opening. It makes them all look incompetent.
Wouldn't be first time they were called incompetent for many issues facing LA
classic u/Sawtelle-MetroRider conspiracy theories
When a city councilman has to recuse himself citing conflict of interest on a vote to give the LAX APM another $400 million and then a year later actually gets busted by the DA on felony corruption charges, yeah I guess?
LA council committee approves $400 million for LAX Automated People Mover
Then they'll say hey if you do an investigation now, it's going to halt everything and delay things ever further. That's how they have this project by the balls.
Because it’s an automated system it must complete a full year straight without issue to complete the testing phase and be permitted to open.
Why does it need a full year, where did that magic number of days come from, what's it backed up by? Like is there a difference in 365 days of full testing as opposed to 364 days and 23 hours and 59 seconds?
Ask the CPUC, it’s their rule.
I'd say call up Newsom and use executive powers to override that stupid rule if he ever wants to become POTUS. That's not going to look good when opponents can say you can't get the CAHSR done and you failed at the World Cup and the Olympics too with the LAX People Mover. If you can't use executive powers for something important as that, he can't get shit done in his own state, how do voters expect him to make executive decisions at the federal level.
again, this not something CPUC pulled out the air. This is something the contactor came up with based on the safety certification plan.
Its missing transparency on the billion of dollars the automobile industry is giving to delay the project as long as possible.
I think the auto industry is more likely to cater towards the rental car companies at LAX which made their move to the new rental car center and getting pissed that the APM wasn't delivered as promised. That's where the car companies use new cars as advertisements; the rental cars.
Zeno's People Mover. Between this and the D line perpetually being 3 months away, we're in purgatory.
Welcome to 2007 in other cities!
*1997
Goddamn TEXAS' main airports of all places has had this for years, we're so behind it's pathetic jfc
Tampa, Florida has a people mover for god's sake
LA is very, VERY late to the party
Orlando had a people mover in the early 1990s!
Its been testing on the track for over a year now it seems like. No idea what could be the hold up.
Some dispute between LAWA and LINXs (the contractor), along the lines of LINXs feels that they haven’t been paid enough by LAWA and so are demanding more money (apparently up to a billion dollars), and that until then testing isn’t really happening, enough anyway, so the start date for revenue service keeps getting pushed back.
There is a lot work work left related to IT, and power.
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I get that it’s not technically in service yet but I saw it when it was testing a few months ago and they’re already letting the cars look like absolute shit caked in dust. If they’re not going to open it they could at the very least make sure it looks tidy when it’s whizzing by overhead
But if it’s not in service why would they clean it?
It just seems like a double whammy of “not only do you NOT get to ride this thing we’ve been dangling in front of you for years, but we’re also going to let it fall into poor maintenance so you’re extra reminded how much we don’t give a shit”
I don’t expect them to keep it out-of-the-box brand new clean, but my god take 5 minutes to hose it down when it looks like this
Another ten years !!
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Just 10 more years guys we're 99.9978% done
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its going to open when we will have flying cars
It's going to open when we have flying pigs.
How does no one actually know what’s going on? Even in this thread I’ve heard 5 opposing things from different people, none of which even make sense.
Is there no one involved in this project who can give us some information? For a multi billion dollar project I would expect hundreds to thousands of people working on this. No one has come forward and explained what is happening? It seems insane to me.
Maybe it will open by the Olympics
In 2032.
Oh so it works! Buuut impossible to open before World Cup? Yeah right
This the first time I’ve seen footage of it actually moving at speed. Guess that means we’re only another year away from opening 🤦♂️
You know that feeling when you’re about to cum but she stops doing what was working?
That’s how I feel with this project being stuck at 99%
Bro, too soon
😂
I feel like that's the fastest I've ever seen it go, but it still won't open for at least 9 months imo.
A damn shame it took this long to build a toy train that’s still not open. We’ve really lost our way.
One step closer
sweeeeeeeet 🤗🥳🤗
I wish I was on that train 😌
Same
I mistook that k-rail initially for snow... My mind was like wtf??
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If you haven't noticed, large swaths of American cities look third world. That's what happens when 10% of people do 50% of the consumer spending and 10% of people have as much wealth as the bottom 70%. You are looking at the majority of people who have remarkably little wealth considering the overall wealth of the country they exist in and contribute to.
It doesn't help that our city has ass density so the space to tax revenue ratio basically guarantees that there is little to no money put into making 95% of urban space aesthetically pleasing, and almost all public space and money for that space is allocated to car movement and storage, which always looks like shit.
But hey at least we can be proud that "we're the 4th largest economy in the world" as CA constantly likes to brag about, amirite?
As Douglas Adams noted, no language on earth has ever coined the phrase "as pretty as an airport."