• I don’t even want to touch this…but the Middle East “mess”, is probably faaaaar from over.

    I wish it wasn’t so.

    Agreed. Can't trust Netanyahu or Trump.

    "probably?"

    This isn't even a real cease fire. Nothing happened except the hostages come home and Israel leaves Gaza. Hamas is still in charge and already running their death squads on their own people. Netanyahu is still in charge and will funnel Hamas money so they can rebuild and he can keep power to "protect" Israel from the very thing he feeds.

    Trump deserves zero credit for anything. And all those people who were suddenly interested in the plight of the Palestinians will pretty soon realize that they never should have been standing on American soil supporting Hamas directly because they are just as bad as the Israeli occupation.

    It’s true it’s well known that BeeBee has been using HAMAS as the boogeyman for his excuse to scare tactics to keep himself in power / office.

    It’s a cycle. I intend to spend part of this winter reading up on 2 things about the Middle East to better educated about the region.

    1. It’s history.
    2. Modern Political climate over the past 50 years.

    I’m educated enough about the situation to type “I don’t want to touch this but….”.

    And that’s where I’m to leave it right now.

    That's fine and all, but the cycle of history shouldn't validate the now - the only truth I know is also a little basic, but from the experience of being there - Netanyahu and Hamas are equally bad for the people of Gaza.

  • She also had no power of the situation in Gaza

    she kinda did though. she has influence

  • Is easy to stage “protests” against the ideal scapegoat for USA people (Black and Brown women), instead of the people who are and have been actively harming them. Nothing new to see here. SOS (same old shit).

  • I completely agree with everything that Kamala Harris says! I hope she will become President very soon!

  • i like how the moderator always thanks the Hamas supporters for buying a ticket.

  • Yeah, but she was VP when the genocide started. And she campaigned to keep sending weapons and cash to keep it going. She thinks we forgot that?!

    Kamala called for a ceasefire. Trump said Israel should "bulldoze" Gaza.

    Fuckwit "progressives" squealed: Both sides are the same.

    She took back her call for a ceasefire, because Netanyahu said no and Biden said he wasn’t going to force one if Israel didn’t want it. She backtracked to say she would never disagree with Biden.

    She and Trump obviously are not the same but let’s not pretend the issue was handled well at all. Otherwise the mistake will be repeated for 2028.

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    Source? Sounds made up.

    Oh look! An anti-Semite!

    Young Republican?

    You're mixing up her and Ivanka. And when Trump gets deposed, watch where he runs to.

    She didn’t campaign for that.

    She avoided saying what she really wanted to do because she didn’t want to turn her whole 3 month campaign into a referendum on Biden‘s handling of Gaza, which she had no authority to change and which would have been seen as a betrayal by a lot of Democrats.

    As frustrating as it may be to people who see Gaza as the genocide it is, there are a lot of Democrats and normies who think of Israel as “the good guys” because that’s what they’ve been taught their whole lives.

    I think it’s fair to criticize that political decision. But I also think it’s naïve to believe she could flip the decades long US policy on Israel, and there would be no backlash. Particularly when we saw backlash from the media for even the occasional reporter who mildly criticized Israel. Mostly they were removed from their normal time slot or fired altogether.

    Harris made a political decision not to touch it because she only had three months. A lot of people think it was the wrong one and that’s a reasonable criticism. I agree with that criticism. But we shouldn’t lie and say she campaigned for something she didn’t campaign for, or that she was responsible for a policy she had no authority to enact.

    If you tried to ever educate yourself you would have known that there is no president of the USA that is able to overturn the agreements established between USA and ISRAEL since the Palestine mandate. Expecting a VP and a very targeted one nonetheless to resolve it is racist. 1) because context matters, and the U.S. has been angrily against her as a whole since Biden chose her; 2) because the majority of the politicians in this country are overwhelmingly conservative and anti-Black. Biden used her to wash his image as the segregationist he was.

    Plus, idk what other beefs he had with his party to refuse stepping down earlier and throw his VP into the presidential race out of spite.