I feel stupid for saying this but I just recently learned there are incels in the far right community that wholeheartedly have just as the same trashy opinions as regular incels, just 10x worse. I thought many were just confined to their red/black pill ideologies and I didn’t realize that there were many that are also involved in much more degenerate spaces like the neo-nazi movement and the “Save Europe” movement and even in fucking neo-satanic cults which is just fucked and both weird at the same time.
I honestly feel stupid just realizing this but I want to be informed more if I missed any that I actually don’t know is a thing in the incel subculture, like I’m shocked.
Wait, there are incels who AREN'T far-right?
Yeah, I kind of assumed that it was pretty much an far right thing based on the language and ideas they consume are adjacent
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I dont think they do so willingly, but they definitely share a braincel with their mirrored attitudes.
That's exactly what I was thinking
No
Before I worked on myself and met my now girlfriend, I blamed men for making women so reserved instead of improving myself. Was never a Republican.
yes, there are. You can be a misogynist even being left-wing (unfortunately)
I get where you coming from, but incels are far-right by default
They preach the same talking points that neo-nazis do even if not all of them call themselves one
I always assumed most if not all incels were right wing given that they commonly blame feminism for all their problems.
Also I'm sure they buy into the common myths about white women and black men.
what would a centrist incel be like i wonder?
"I moderately despise women"
/s or /j as I got warned for sarcastically saying "good to see the jews are as hated as ever" to make a point AGAINST banning circumcision in the UK lol
Potentially the absence of political opinions beyond those specific to their weird beliefs about gender
But beliefs about gender are political opinions ☹️
Yes, and that’s why I said “political opinions beyond those specific to their weird beliefs about gender,” a phrase that frames weird beliefs about gender as a subset of the broader category, political opinions
Incels are always far-right. Because the standpoint they start in, which is a hatred of women, is commonly a far-right sentiment. Not to say that misogyny doesn’t exist on the left. But the left has a historical tendency towards equality (in communist Russia, women workers were equally paid; suffrage came from left-leaning circles, feminist theory is often left-leaning, etc.)
I know this might narrow or simplify the political spectrum. But it’s good to know that inceldom is without a doubt right-wing. It can even serve as an initiation / recruitment into the far-right for more self-perceived “moderate” men.
Misogyny is a core value of right wing ideology and religious fundamentalism so yeah, not very surprising
Not necessarily. If you look at the "old" left you will find all sorts of stuff that would be considered rightwing in the modern sense. Intersectionality is a newish addition to the political framework. As an example, look at someone like George Galloway. He's a dyed in the wool Trotskyist and a sexist.
Yes, yes, yes the left progresses with time. We all know. That doesn't change that bigotry and modern conservatism walk hand in hand
I was surprised to learn that there are far right non-incels.
You aren't stupid but also I'm shocked this is surprising to you. One of the main pillars of inceldom, misogyny, is inherently a main pillar of far-right ideology. And many of them fall into white supremacy, homophobia, eugenics of disabled people, etc as well. Just the kind of base, low-intelligence immutable-identity-based hatred that fuels their hatred of women also naturally extends to other minority groups and is the underpinning of far-right ideology.
Really? From what I've observed over the last 10 years, most of them seem to be apolitical and a good portion are people of color.
you can be far right in countries that aren't predominantly white though
It’s an illiberal transgressive and grievance filled idiology. Inherently far right.
They're all far right. The left doesn't tolerate that shit.
You mean as a majority?
I’ve known a left-leaning incel, we played yugioh with him. He was foul.
“Are women bourgeoisie?”
Did he think a marxist govt would assign wives to all of the men? It would be fascinating to know about their ideology!
Oregon is a very blue state so his alignment wasn’t unusual; his exact beliefs weren’t really clearly known. This was maybe 7 years ago and all I remember is a complete Magician Girl deck and a staunch opposition to “trash 3D”. Friends said his Facebook profile was especially heinous but I never added him and never truly knew.
He voted hard left and fiercely opposed anything red, according to his various pins.
Seizing the means of (re)production
The Micropenis Liberation Front
It helps to think of incels less as a subculture and more of a decentralized death cult. And one the biggest risks of this decentralized death cult is that it enables them to belong to other, more dangerous cults focused on direct action, IE terrorism and such.
You hit the nail right on the head. They may start out insecure and wanting dating advice but then it’s a straight shot down into being part of a groomer death cult
Incel ideology is always aligned with far-right movements like racism, misogyny, sexism, and pronatalism
OP, do you mean you’re surprised that the far right, Neo-nazis, incels, nihilist, and theistic satanists have joined together in the asshole of the Internet to create the most despicable cults that have systematized grooming?
Because yeah I’m down that rabbit hole too. It’s the biggest evidence that there might actually be a hell and it exists on earth
Yes I thought many of them were apolitical
If only that were true… make due you have some eye bleach if you keep digging
They are synonyms
I just learned there are non-far-right incels
far right is everywhere, ive also seen far right people here in this sub
It's the Groyper community. The guy who killed Charlie Kirk was one of them.
I just assumed that there can be incels regardless of political spectrum.
The Venn diagram for Incels and the far right is a circle. Or more accurately, not all of the far right are Incels, but all Incels are far right.
The incel community is literally a subset of the far-right. I’m not sure why this is shocking