Hey 19m khhv. I’ve already come to terms and am content with it and given up so I am kind of just curious if this could be better for when someone asks as that’s something I get. I’ve usually just said ‘I don’t know’ when someone asks me why when I say I’ve never had a relationship but I’ve recently been thinking of identifying myself as aroace or celibate maybe as my reasoning.
Which imo looks less ‘pathetic’ I guess than having been trying for years and nothing? If I told someone that I was trying and it didn’t work out I guess it implies something is wrong for whatever multitude of reasons so do you think it could be better to say I am aroace or alternatively celibate (perhaps for religious reasons.) neither of those are true because I do feel attraction and I’m not that religious but I’d rather not go through the pain of trying again and just try come up with some random reason instead.
It could also make me less of an outlier amongst my friends who are all in relationships because I’m the only single one and if I just say that it’s because I am aroace or because I am religious it will make it make more sense basically.
I also genuinely hate when people say stuff like ‘you’ll find someone eventually’ or that kinda shallow talk which I just shrug off so I’d prefer if they just said ‘ok fair enough’ or something along those lines and if I said I was aroace or celibate I feel the latter response is more likely than the former
Thanks
I think if you say it around people who see you repeatedly, and care about you, you run the risk of them believing you. That is, if anyone ever does show interest, you run the risk of a well meaning friend telling them youre aro or deliberately celibate. Do you want that?
Also, if youre looking to NOT stand out, absolutely do not tell your peers youre celibate or aro. Those are uncommon things to be, especially at the very young age of 19. As someone with a lot of aro friends, youre way more likely to be interrogated than if you say you just never had a good opportunity, were busy with school, grew up kind of sheltered or even "I dont know". People are not particularly kind or polite to actual aro people, especially men.
Im going to be honest: you are much too young to have given up/accepted anything.
Yea I doubt someone actually would show interest but I already get occasional jokes around friends about being the chronically single guy. For example a time I just made a really shit joke and one of my friend’s gfs who was there said something like ‘yeah it’ll be tough finding someone for you.’ Obviously she meant well since we all take the piss out of each other but I think if for example I was known as being aro-ace or celibate I wouldn’t get any jokes based on that lol.
Or even relatives would stop asking me why I haven’t found a girlfriend or why I haven’t gotten married or whatever all they tend to ask.
Well maybe for family I’d say I’m super religious but my friends are progressive (some of them are gay or bi themself) so I don’t think it would be weird if I ‘came out’ as aroace to them
...or maybe don't lie? You are 19, not even a legal adult, how would everyone react if you came out as aromantic and then got a girlfriend? I met my current partner because a friend introduced us, that would have never happened if I lied and told him I was aromantic, you're shooting yourself in the foot because you assume the rest of your life is going to be like this when you've barely lived.
I thought 18 is a legal adult, in where I live I can drink already.
Anyway I won’t find one so that’s not in the picture and I don’t think that’s possible for me anyway.
I feel being introduced by someone is already inauthentic. My parents have already tried this, since we come from a south Asian family and there’s a big thing on arranged marriages over there so they’ve already shown me pictures of random girls (I’m assuming are their friend’s daughters) and asking if want to meet or marry them and I’ve always declined
You are still a teenager and haven't lived even half of your life, and yet you claim you already know how the rest of it will look like, that makes 0 sense.
There's nothing inauthentic about being introduced, you can't force a connection.
I can kind of get the message from how it is going and based on people who were similar to me at my age and how they were in their 30’s or 40’s or further
You are 11 years away from 30 and 21 from 40, you are giving up with decades in advance?
Yeah just because I want to not want a relationship.
I know how much work it is and I know all the negative aspects so it would be better if I forgot about it and gave up entirely and was able to be content and happy single
You don't know anything if you have never been in a relationship, this is an incel EXIT subreddit, if you want to give up and be a self fulfilling prophecy this is not the place for you.
But do I have to be in a relationship to stop being an incel? I came here because I want to exit the mindset part of it and I want help to find contentment in being alone, not because I want to get a gf. This isn’t a dating advice subreddit either
As someone who’s actually ace, telling people you’re ace almost inevitably leads to curious questions, a quite a few of them. Do you really want to lie over and over again to people AND pretend to be a part of a community you don’t belong to?
Just say you haven't found the right person yet, or you are focusing on other things right now.
If people think you're aro/ace, even if someone is interested in you they might not approach you.
And you're 19, you have so much time to meet people, to grow. You barely started the game, don't just give up at the first challenge.
That’s honestly fine if they don’t approach me
Ok, give up then. Why did you even post here? What are you asking or looking for?
For a way to be content with being alone
Imagine someone asks you this because they are interested in you. You say you're aroace. They give up because obviously you would never reciprocate. How is that good?
I doubt that would actually happen ngl as it has never happened before but even then it’s alright. I’d prefer it over another ‘don’t worry you’ll find someone eventually’ or ‘there’s someone for everyone’ line
It's not a guarantee that you'll find someone, but my god, you are nineteen, dude. I'm twice your age and I'm not even old. You have met basically zero people ever. You're like a tiny baby deer stumbling to his feet for the first time. Don't write yourself off.
In all honesty I want to try and feel happy without one ever as I know I’m not good enough and stop the loneliness feeling I have so trying to convince myself I’m aroace was trying to be my solution to that.
I’ve tried other things to feel content like getting a cat (who I love and care for but it’s not the same) and focusing on my hobbies (reading, model-building, board games, painting), self improvement (gym etc) and other stuff but I see people with relationships and I again just feel that way. I wish I could delete those feelings of attraction essentially
Dog, chill out with the melodrama. You don't know this at all. Trying to 'convince yourself' of something that doesn't sound true won't be a winning game. You are all of 19 years old. Most people your age are lonely, celibate, and have no idea how to deal with any of this. I know it doesn't feel like it right now, but you're going to be fine.
Guess it’s just everyone in my circle who’s much more experienced than me haha. I feel that gets less and less true the older I get that. But anyway I think the moment has passed so it’s not something I’m thinking of and I want to be content
The moment has passed? My first “moment” didn’t happen until I was 20. And it wouldn’t have happened at all if I had lied to everyone and said I was aro or ace.
Dude. There is no time limited "moment." You'll have your moment when you have it. Doesn't have to be in your teens.
Why do you think ‘the moment has passed?’ What ‘moment?’ Do you think everyone meets their life partner before they’re 19? Or do you think everyone who is single at 19 is doomed to be single forever? Because neither of those things are true
Just more difficult after your teenage years and the rest of my life isn’t really in order (career, finance etc) to have someone like me so I just want to be happy how I am
How can you know this if you aren't even out of being a teenager yet? A lot of people grow, develop, and become more secure in themselves into their early and mid 20's to the point where dating, romance, sex, relationships etc. becomes substantially less difficult to navigate and engage in, speaking from experience.
This is a great and noble goal, to be frank. So choose that - no one experience, or person, or thing, can give that to you, except you actively making the choice to be happy and accept yourself as you are. You likely will not have the rest of your life in order to your satisfaction for a long time. That's not a reason to not accept yourself and choose contentment.
Right now you are surrounded by other incredibly young and inexperienced people who are also trying to figure all this stuff out and make sense of things. What they have, what they are chasing, and all of that seems like it is having a substantial influence on your thinking and how you value yourself. This is how we work; we are social beings. But you need to consider the option that you are going to keep learning and growing and making mistakes just like they are, and that that is perfectly fine and normal.
Because I see the posts and stories from people who are virgins maybe after 25 or 30 and that it's always recommended that they lie and just say they've had a few before so it's not weird
Yeah if I could find a way to forget attraction and not be upset about being lonely I'd be very happy. I guess yeah my friends being better than me does affect me a bit but I don't think I am growing like them and I just want to forget things like relationships
Your going to be fine buddy your worrying to much about it. Your 19 reality is most people are in the same boat at 19. Worrying about it just makes it worse. Dont worry about finding a partner. Just focus on doing you having fun meeting new people and making new friends and everything else will fall into place. If you go into things wanting a partner chances are you’ll never find it. If you go into it looking for new people you’ll always find that and a added bonus sometimes you’ll find some new friends along the way
I don’t get that advice to just ‘meet people and it will eventually fall into place’ and you shouldn’t want a partner to get one. Even if I did want a partner idk why I’d just not care and not ask anyone out and just make more friends. So wouldn’t you have to be proactive for that? I already meet a lot of women and men mixed (though all women I know rn are taken) so really finding friends is not an issue for me. I go to hobby clubs and conventions and I have a good circle at university. So I already have a lot of friends, that’s not my problem. My thing is wanting to be single and happy
What 'moment' are you talking about?
I can almost guarantee you that this isn't true. A LOT of people are way more lonely, confused, and struggling a lot more extensively than you think. Your circle may just be hiding it better. Do you think they know about all your struggles and feelings? No, right?
I meant that after my teens if my life isn’t in order in my 20’s (like career, finance etc) it’s more difficult and rn I’m not wanting to get a partner I just want to be content
Well I’ve told them before I’m depressed and ADHD (both diagnosed) but they’re supportive and have said I can speak whenever.
I mean, even in their 20's most people don't "have their life in order" and even if they 'do', it's not to the extent that they would've hoped. I think you might need to think about this a little differently, friend. The average person has no clue what they want their life to look like at 19 and can likely barely articulate what the next few years will look like.
You know neither of these are death sentences in regard to dating and sex and all that right? These don't "disqualify" people from dating or sex or romance and they certainly don't make them 'not good enough.' If they did, again, a LOT less people would be engaging in them than there currently are.
Yeah but I am just behind everybody else I know since as I've said I'm the only single one and also I've never had a job either.
Well they are definitely a downside to either of those things and rn I think that I'm not really in a position to have a relationship due to them so I want to just accept it
19 is an extremely young age to be ‘giving up’. Your independent life has only just begun. Telling yourself that there’s no chance and it’ll never happen is a self-fulfilling prophecy.
Besides that, are you aroace? Because if you aren’t, you shouldn’t be identifying as such
I’m a little confused on its specifics to be honest because maybe. I’ve heard some aromantic people still feel romantic attraction and some asexual people still feel sexual attraction.
Tho I’d probably say no because I do feel both but I don’t think it will ever work out so that’s why I want to identify as this.
If it was my choice I’d want to get rid of both forms of attraction from my biology or something and force myself to not feel either. I wish I could actually be it and not feel lonely and be actually content but I know that’s not possible so I guess this is a good alternative
So, sexuality is a complex topic with a lot of different perspectives, and I’ve always been of the opinion that your labels are ultimately your choice.
That being said, I find it offputting that you believe being aroace is something you can ‘choose’. It’s an identity, not a fashion cliche. You feel sexual or romantic attraction, so by most people’s definition of the word you’re not aroace. I can imagine your queer friends would probably take issue with you using the identity disingenuously like this.
If you don’t want people to make those jokes or talk to you about relationships, have you tried just… asking them to stop? Like ‘hey can we not discuss my romantic or sexual life, I don’t like it’. That’s a way better idea than torpedoing any chance of actually meeting someone just to get out of a potentially awkward conversation
I understand it’s not a choice I was saying if I was allowed to choose I guess but I know I can’t pick my sexuality even if I don’t want to live with my current feelings.
I don’t think it could work out anyway if someone was (which I still think is a 0% chance) so it’s fine if someone I know turned them down for me and yeah I know it’s kind of lying but it could help without just sounding awkward or jealous or something if I said your suggestion
You keep saying you don’t think it’ll work out, and we’re going to keep saying the same thing in response: you cannot predict the future.
You’re 19. Your life has literally just begun. You have no idea what the future will bring, but the best way to guarantee that it’ll ’never happen’ is to tell yourself that, over and over again, until you believe it. You need to stop worrying about things you can’t possibly predict, or you’re just going to stay miserable forever
I’m not really looking for dating advice or like hope for that is the main thing. I’m kinda just looking for how I can fully be content with it and be happy and fulfilled alone and single forever, as that’s my goal.
I can manage with my hobbies in the day which I enjoy, I can do my uni work to get my mind off it, I do self improvement stuff like gym, I have a large platonic friend circle, I have a pet, even if depression sometimes makes it difficult to want to do some things.
But then usually at night or the afternoon when it’s unwinding time or trying to get to bed I always have these thoughts and start scrolling and eventually end up crying myself to sleep. I know it sounds really bad but I just want to be content and happy with being alone forever and be ok with it
What you’re here for is how to escape the Incel mindset, correct?
Step one on page one: stop telling yourself you’ll be alone forever.
You’re making yourself miserable for no reason. You have no idea whether that’s true or not, you’re just looking for an excuse to give up because the misery is comfortable. It’s easy to blame outside circumstances and claim that ‘it’s over’, because that means you don’t have to try or improve.
You cannot force yourself to be ‘content’ with being alone forever if you actually want a relationship. That’s just not how brains work. The only person with the power to improve your perception is you, and that starts with quitting this defeatist bullshit
Yeah, but I wouldn’t say I’m a traditional incel like others I see since I’m not thinking I’m entitled to a woman or looking to harm them because they don’t date me. I’m just looking for how to be happy and single
I kind of want to convince myself that I don’t want to. Everyone says that I won’t be happy with a partner unless I’m happy and content single so I’m focusing my goals on the latter so I won’t want a partner essentially. I want that part to come out of my mind so I can just be happy as I am.
You still share the same defeatist attitude though, and you still thought it was appropriate enough to come to this subreddit and ask a question. 'Traditional' incel or not, you came here with a question, and people are providing a reasonable answer to it.
We're getting things mixed up here. You obviously want a partner, want sex, want all of those things, and it is severely bothering you that you don't seem to have these things to the same extent that some of your IRL peers do. People aren't saying these things so that you'll eventually just not ever want a partner. You can change a lot of things about yourself, but unfortunately you can't change what you want.
Have you ever considered the possibility that you can be happy as you are while still wanting a partner? Or that you can be happy independent of whether you currently having a partner (while having one at certain times and not having one at other times)? You have friends, you have hobbies, you are in school, like you are legit just a normal person. Why not talk to friends or trusted adults that you can have a talk about this stuff with? Do you think they'll also come to the conclusion "yeah you're screwed dude better change up what you want" reasonably?
There is absolutely nothing here - not depression, not adhd, not social awkwardness, not a lack of previous success (spoiler alert, a huge amount of people happily in a couple or happily having active sex lives didn't have a lot of success at your age either), not missing out on having a 'perfect life', that is precluding you from having a partner or having sex. Like, you are a totally fine and chill person, and your struggles are so incredibly normal and common especially at your age.
You can choose to accept at any time that you might be wrong about all of your mindset on this. You can actually have what you want. I am telling you, from the perspective of someone that has been depressed, that has gone through these modes of thinking, that was convinced I'd be alone forever, that was convinced I might be asexual, that was convinced no one could or would want me, that was struggling with so many of the exact same things at your exact age years ago, that you are not thinking clearly and that you are likely already missing out on opportunities to meet and talk to women or even hook up with them because of your mindset. I am telling you as someone who was in your shoes, that the only obstacle here is in your head.
Yeah this part is upsetting when I wish I could stop any urges I have
Well I try to with my hobbies to be happy but I guess whenever I think of potentially having a partner I get upset which ruins my mood for the rest of the day even if it's a random thought when I'm doing something else or talking to someone or etc.
Don't really like talking to people about relationships it's always been a weird subject with my upbringing as well so I don't really think about it like that. Friends idk I trust them but I don't ever talk relationships with them outside of jokes especially as they're all taken asw
I don't see this in real life. I see the opposite with most people I know. And overall in University it's where people do it more often but I've never felt comfortable knowing that happens with people, which I went in-depth on in here
And now I think it's too late to stop missing out really as I've missed out on everything
It seems to me that you are not fine being by yourself in these quiet moments. That is, these moments that you are alone with your thoughts.
"No shit, Sherlock!" I hear you say, but it's very important. You can't have a "happy, fulfilled life" that you can be in content with when you don't like these unwinding moments, or alone moments. Did you ask yourself why you think you'd be alone forever? Are you realy gonna be okay with it?
Cliche as it sounds, I think therapy (with someone you connect with, its the most important thing when looking for one) can realy help with these issues and much more.
I’m already in therapy
Okay, I imagine you have unpacked these thoughts and feelings to them, right?
What did they say? How is your therapy going so far? Do they give you skills to cope with these things?
It’s alright. I’ve had some exercises but I guess a lot of the advice is samey just that I’ll eventually find someone or not to be worried or etc but that’s kinda hard to believe. And I haven’t told her anything abt wanting to be aromantic
There are certain labels under the ace umbrella that are in between so to speak, stuff like demisexual or graysexual but aroace is NOT. Proclaiming yourself aroace is saying that you do not experience any sexual attraction and you have no interest in romantic relationships. Don't say that if it isn't true. It will come back to bite you.
Look, it sounds like you don't believe you deserve a relationship. The solution to that is not lying to everyone that you don't have the desire. It's unpacking those feelings that you've got about "I'm not good enough" and "it'll never happen to me" and realizing that you're the one standing in your own way.
Well yea I don’t think I deserve one I just think that I want to be alone and forget it really but my brain is wired up in a way to want it which I’m not really happy about
1: You're 19, plenty of people have had no relationships or anything at that point. I didn't kiss a girl until I was 20, and I'm now married.
2: I would not be telling people this if it isn't true. For starters is the obvious fact that you're lying for basically no reason. The other is that if you're telling this to people who know you, they may pass up an opportunity to set you up with someone if they think you're asexual.
I’m not looking to be set up with someone. Not looking to date
Why?
Clearly you're not when you're crying yourself to sleep over it. What's the point in lying to yourself?
There's nothing pathetic about trying and it not working out. Especially at 19. That's just normal.
It doesn't. I mean I'd assume that there's room for improvement for anyone's approach when they are 19(!) but why would I assume there's something wrong? Would you assume something is wrong it you met another 19-year-old without dating success so far?
Declaring yourself to be something most people are not compared to just being single in your teens makes you less of an outlier? In what world? And you think that would invite less jokes?
"It hasn't worked out so far" is a perfectly fine answer (and just the truth btw). Also, you don't owe anyone an explanation or details if they're being nosy. But also: You're 19. You have no idea what your future looks like. If you drop this defeatist attitude, however, you'll have much more chances to be happy.
I guess I am looking for how I can be happy single and alone. And I guess trying to convince myself is the truth is the way I’m trying to be happy basically.
Everyone already says if you aren’t happy alone you won’t be happy with a partner so yeah right now I’m not happy and I’m still upset but maybe I can convince myself that it’s ok and I won’t ever find a partner and I can still be happy. I’m trying to sort of kill my libido and kill my attractions so convincing myself I’m ace is a step which can help me towards this
As said I don’t want a partner and didn’t come for dating advice I’ve come to try be happy single
Have you told your therapist this?
hello, i know that's not exactly what you're asking for, but what helped me to stop thinking im going to never find someone was ''playing the tape through to the very end'', i'm not sure this would be useful for you but it worked for me; i used to be extremely, and i mean extremely insecure about being short. and i thought i would never find someone because of that.
also, i know (and knew) that i wanted to have kids. like very much so. i dont even care about the having a partner bit as much. and so i sort of imagined myself never becoming a father exactly because i was short. all the people in my life refusing to go out with me because im short. when im 20. when im 25. when im 45. i imagined drinking all the time to forget about the fact that im short when i'd be 50. etc.
and basically, when this sob story came to its conclusion i was like ''fuck ok no this is pure stupid what the fuck was that are all the side characters in this fiction story pure dumbasses'' (after crying for like ... 4 hours because in my imaginary life i died at 50 with no kids because im 5'6'')
so maybe you could do something like this? try to process your emotions. engage with them without judgement. play the tape through to the very end. at least for me i a) felt better, and b) also sorta realized that omg this can't be fucking real. 500 people denying me the first date when im 45 because im fucking short like are these people insane??
I wouldn't say something that isn't true. You might upset or confuse people if they find out you were lying and youll probably struggle to date if you create barriers.
If they're good friends I would just be honest and say I don't know and I don't really like being asked.
If they're not good friends I would distance myself and if they were just acquaintances I feel like it would just be easier to say something along the lines of "I haven't been in a relationship for a while", like you don't need to tell people youve never been in a relationship.
Thatt would be an easier lie than pretending you're aroace or celibate for religious reasons.
I don't mind that as I don't intend to date I'm trying to forget relationships and try to be content
If you're trying to avoid stigma this is not the way to go. There is far more stigma around being aromantic than there is around being single at the age of 19. This reads to me as very similar to straight women who suggest you tell men you're a lesbian if they won't leave you alone, while not realising that will not only not make them leave you alone, but may also make them more persistent and sometimes violent. People online seem to have this idea that being LGBTQ is far more accepted and far less stigmatised than it actually is in real life.
My friends are progressive and some are gay or bi themself so I think they would take it fine
If they're progressive then they shouldn't have a problem with you being single either. I'm queer and in exclusively progressive circles, and being aromantic specifically still occasionally elicits comments - it's one of the few orientations that even some lgbtq people do not understand. Either way you're 19, being single is fine, don't lie to people and overcomplicate things for no reason.
nah, because if everyone thinks you're aroace people may not pursue a relationship with you.
the thing you need to get through your head is that not having had a relationship at 19 is not weird at all and nobody cares
k but you will though
I think it's fine because I know I won't find anyone so it's ok.
hi, i'm an actual aroace person here. the short answer is no, it's not better. the long answer is, a, it comes off as a way to politely reject people (this is literally something i have done before), and b, it doesn't even guarantee that you won't get the 'there's someone for everyone' treatment. there are lots of aroace people who, when explaining that they are aroace, get hit with the 'you just haven't met the right person yet' treatment. something you can say instead (and won't even really be a lie) is that you haven't met the right person yet. this implies that you are open to a relationship, but may not necessarily be actively searching for one. it also shows that you want the relationship to have value and not just be a fleeting affair.
most importantly, you're nineteen. i know it feels like you're getting old. i know it feels like the world is coming at you too fast. you're on the cusp of twenty. you won't be able to call yourself a teenager anymore. it feels like you need to start having everything figured out NOW. i was there not too long ago. but listen, that isn't true at all. i'm 22, i still live with my parents. i still haven't gotten my bachelor's because i had a horrible first year of college and had academic trauma because of it (currently working on the degree). i work part time retail. i don't have all of my shit figured out, and you do not have to, either. i am not able to completely empathise with your situation, but i did undergo a sort of parting with a person, and i can on some level understand the bitterness that comes with seeing other people have the dynamic that you don't. in my experience, it's okay to feel the things that you do. it's okay to let yourself feel those emotions. suppression doesn't work forever. again, i've been there. i've done that. it works for a little while, but you will inevitably feel those things again. let yourself feel it, and then let it go. it will be a slow process. you need to be careful not to wallow. i still don't know where that balance is for myself. but it does, very slowly, get better.
Unpopular opinion, but I just lie and say I've had a few relationships or "situations" in the past. At your age, it's actually totally normal; however, when you're nearing 30 like I am, then it's a concern. However, you have a decade OP, so be confident and honest.
I mean that sounds like it would just get more questions asked because some (mainly women) I know are super nosy about that lol. Not even a bad thing it’s kind of funny but I know they’d just be like ‘what was she like’ or etc
But anyway I outlined my goal isn’t to get a gf it’s to be happy alone
And if people get nosy about you lying about being aro/ace?
I think that’s easier to brush off
You do? What an odd way to see it. Do you always find lying as easier than telling the truth?
And if somebody is interested in you, but decides against saying anything because you’re lying to everyone about being aro/ace?
It’s fine really because I’m not looking for a partner I’m looking to find ways to be content with myself as single
You can’t be content with the truth? Not so content if you can’t be honest, are you?
I guess but idk how else to try and convince myself more that I’m happy
OR…you could just tell the truth and not write off your whole romantic future when you’re barely an adult?
Well I still have to be happy alone since I can't depend on a partner for happiness so I'm trying to do that
They can be nosy, but I think I’ve gotten more adept at being able to handle the concerns that might be raised (just like I’m able to mask my incel/conservative views as well). However I truly believe at your age, you don’t need to lie because you’re super young.
I’m not really conservative I’m more of a leftist but thanks anyway I guess
You shouldn't worry about being or not being in a relationship. Just worry about doing things to better your life and to make you happy. Having a partner is not guaranteed to make you happy. If you constantly dwell on what you think you missed out on or what you lack, then you'll always be miserable. And if someone asks about when you'll get married, etc., just shrug and say, "If it happens, it happens. If it doesn't, it doesn't." Then let it go at that.
Just live for yourself and your happiness. That's the best way to live.
I am aware. That’s why I am looking to find techniques to forget about wanting a partner and I want to be happy single. I want to take this advice that I have to be happy without a partner I really do but my brain can’t help but feel lonely at nights and make me upset and start scrolling.
I’m asking you genuinely, how can I forget about wanting a partner and live for myself and my happiness as you say?
I already have hobbies I do during the day, I have friends, I have a pet, I do self improvement like gym and etc. and yet even with all these things I still have the lonely feeling in the back of my head. Is there a way to just delete that want? I can’t just do that
It's not a matter of deleting, more of self- awareness and self- reflection. Is your sense of loneliness dependent solely on a partner? What would a partner provide that friends and/ or family couldn't? What do you require specifically that would fulfill your need? What can you do to alleviate those feelings of loneliness specifically?
I have no idea. That’s the thing. Stuff like hanging out friends can do and going to places and etc. My pet provides affection occasionally and yet again I still feel like I want a partner as there’s something missing. But I already know I can’t get one so no point.
I don’t know what I can do to alleviate these feelings. Maybe you are just stronger than me and can be content and happy and have your needs fulfilled alone which I wish I had and was able to do and that’s what I want to do, to stop feeling lonely
I am missing the why you think you won't or can't get a partner.
I don’t think it could work out and it hasn’t happened before since nobody has liked me before and I’m kind of a burden since I’m not stable in other factors of life so I don’t want to put someone thru dealing with me so I’d rather just stay alone for my own good and try and be happy as myself
"Hasn't happend before"- does that mean it can't happen in the future? Are you a fortune teller? Nothing guarantee you won't find a partner, nor nothing guarantee that you will.
As for being happy with yourself, as yourself, imo there isn't a simple solution, nor a trick to it. You can't fight your wants and needs. You can pick up better coping skills and practice them. You can investigate these feelings and thoughts with therapy and understand yourself better. I think keeping up with trying to convince yourself that you wont find anyone, and just be happy with yourself, in the long term would do more harm than good.
What suggestions do you have for better coping skills or methods then?
I don’t know how it’s bad when everyone seems to encourage to not focus on getting a partner and instead just focus inwards on yourself which I try and do and forget about ever having a partner which is the best situation for me
It seems to me that you actually might not specifically want a partner, but that there is something you are missing that you think a partner would provide. What if that's not the case? Relationships don't fix issues. It's not an achievement to be earned, or a box to be checked off. It requires care and work to maintain it. It's very much like having a best friend, in fact.
And I am aware of this, which tbf, I already have best friends, and the thing is it's weird because I don't want to want to have a partner, but yet I still have that feeling.
I want to take your advice as I've said, but I can't just be happy, I feel lonely and I feel like I want a partner even if I want to feel happy and content.
Not unless you want to end up with people who don't want sex.
I prefer to wait to have sex until I'm in an established and exclusive relationship. But if someone told me he was aromantic or asexual I wouldn't be able to consider him as a potential partner.
"Waiting for the right person" is doable though.
I don’t really want to end up with someone I want to be happy as I am
Giving them any reason is asking for the discussion to continue. If you lie and say ace the conversation just continues in a different way, like when you actually do find someone later. You don’t owe ANYONE your reasons for this.
Say this: “I know you’re just curious, but I prefer to keep that part of my life personal. Anyway, [change subject]”
If they still insist on being invasive, just calmly repeat “I keep that part of my life personal” in a neutral tone with a neutral face.
If they say more nosy things, continue to repeat the exact same sentence calmly but firmly. It shows you hold strong to your boundary without getting defensive, and the repetition highlights the bolstering of that boundary.
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I don’t think you should lie about your sexuality to try to make excuses about being single. It’s okay to be single. The “why” really isn’t important at all.