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Calling his parents was absolutely the right thing to do as they probably live close by and know where he would be out shooting. He just really didn’t need to precede it with “my training took over” though. Like nah dude, you were being dumb, shot yourself in the leg and called your parents to pick you up. Idk if he was in the military or not but that’s something you learn when you skin your knee in kindergarten, not at boot camp
Unironically valid. If I bleed out I'd rather be the one to tell my parents instead of a police officer, military member or lawyer talking about what I'm going to leave to them
The explanation the guy gave was that he had been practicing with different equipment. The original holster used a thumb release, while the one in the video used an index finger release. When switching it up, he disengaged the safety instead of the holster release, and when he then corrected, he accidentally pulled the trigger. It's still his fault, but those serpa style holsters which use index releases are also just unsafe in practice.
Part of my other comment was guns are poor short distance weapons so yes don't walk up and close the distance. LOL Yeah good luck being successful winning when someone already has the draw on you and better yet hope you are the good guy in a movie.
I’m not saying it’s smart or practical. I’m saying that there exists a technique for a very specific situation (assuming you had no better options and can’t deescalate).
In most situations it’s best to deescalate or evade/avoid a confrontation entirely.
My brother in christ, a .45 acp does not discriminate if it hits your head from a foot away or 45 yards away. It'll still blow your brains out, It works just fine in close range
You realize that the fogure on the target is quite irrelevant here, right?
Also, what would you do? Imagine you are on guard duty, turn a corner and someone waits with a gun.
What would be your adequate reaction? Do nothing?
Lets imagine another, quite common, situation. Someone gets verbally aggressive. Gets closer to you. You dont want to shoot them for being verbally aggressive. When they are close, they try to pull a knife. What do you do? Do nothing? Run away?
You're clearly trying to construct specific situations where it seems useless. That does not change that this is a very common drill, taught all around the world in military and police, for good reason.
Nobody says its the perfect shot, that guns are extremely effective at that range or that you should be in situations like this.
But you dont train for the perfect situation, right? You train for the situation where everything went wrong.
Ummmm I didn't "construct specific situations" but ONE GENERAL situation as portrayed in this video. A dude drawing a gun on a "man" with his gun already drawn.
Did you even read my original comment here? It was about actually shooting at the target at this range.
When someone pulls a knife actually you do run so you don't get your ass stabbed. A knife is ONLY effective at short distance. Someone can stab you faster (as you said it was already pulled out right?) than you can draw a gun and shoot. Once you create distance than draw your gun. You seriously don't know this?
Again, the figure on the cardboard is pretty irrelevant here. But Congrats. You got the point of the drill.
Get distance, so you can properly use your gun. That is the point. Not 'get as close as possible without your gun, then draw and shoot'.
The proper drill works exactly like this. Strike and Push the attacker away, draw and move back, shoot. But jeah. I cant fathom a situation here this could happen. The cardboard has a guy with a gun on it, after all. Its better to turn around and run without doing anything.
(Also no, not already pulled out, read the comment again)
The fact that meal team six here fucked it up does not mean there are no practical applications for this.
Its not dumb and it serves a Very Practical purpose. You need to look up Craig Douglas from ShivWorks/ SouthNarc, this is a technique that he teaches, for a reason
It is dumb... Any one reaching for a gun standing right in front of me is getting tackled or half their teeth are going to be exploding out of their mouth. Guns are more suited as long range weapons. In this case this "person" has a gun drawn already so in real life grandpa here has a big hole in the back of his head.
With the first versions of the Serpa holser if you pulled on the holster at the same time you were pushing the release button the holster would lock up. A typical reaction would be to push your index finger on the relese button harder assuming you were not pressing it enough to release the pistol, while pulling harder on the pistol. Eventually, the inward finger pressure would overcome the locked condition and the pistol wold snap free very quickly. Since you are putting a lot of pressure on your trigger finger and pulling pretty hard, when the pistol snaps free your trigger finger immidialy slaps the trigger because the pressure that you were putting on the release button. The whole thing takes fractions of a second. Later people realized that if your holster locks up you have to remember to push the pistol back into the holser press the button and then slide the holster out. It has to be sequenced not simultanious.
This happend to quite a few people when this holster first came out leading to a lot of ranges and tactical schools banning this holster. I understand that Blackhawk redsigned the holster to not lock up if the button was pressed while drawing. This guy gets mocked for his video, but he did a lot of people a service.
This video gave them a bad rap, but you just have to train with them use them for the environment they are made for and they are not for casual/daily carry. This is not my opinion, this is industry opinion.
I used Sherpa when I was doing wilderness rescue in Alaska and I have one on my home defense plate carrier right now. They are made for “I don’t want my handgun to fall out while I’m fighting off ninjas or off trail in brown bear country”. Lots of people who are climbing in and out of JLTVs or MARPs all day in hostile lands primarily use them.
Maybe the objective of this drill is that your opponent won't shoot you because he'll be too busy pissing himself laughing at your antics.
Seriously though, with the setup he has for the video I was expecting something lightning-quick like one of those western quickdraw trick shot guys where you can barely see what's happening because it's so fast and not the fumbling draw and shooting himself we see here.
Infamous for using a SERPA holster, which requires the user to use the trigger guard to depress the release to remove the handgun from the holster. Anybody can see why this may be an issue, but dinguses like to claim "you can fix it by training."
Meanwhile, an NRA instructor, in a video DEFENDING THE HOLSTER, you can see him finger tap the trigger while drawing.
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This video is almost old enough to drive. Here's the follow up from Tex Grebner NO ONE ever gives credit to when posting this for the 85,754th time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYvAxLX6OzE
"After the shot went off, my training took over. I called my parents"
He tactically called mom.
Tacticried.
Today is the day I learned every five year old has tactical training!
He’s actually pretty articulate but he’s never going to live that line down.
Calling his parents was absolutely the right thing to do as they probably live close by and know where he would be out shooting. He just really didn’t need to precede it with “my training took over” though. Like nah dude, you were being dumb, shot yourself in the leg and called your parents to pick you up. Idk if he was in the military or not but that’s something you learn when you skin your knee in kindergarten, not at boot camp
I thought you were making a joke but just watched and seeing as he actually said that, I’m not laughing as much
Yeah could have said it better (“I called a close relative”). Otherwise it comes off like he is living with his living with his parents.
Unironically valid. If I bleed out I'd rather be the one to tell my parents instead of a police officer, military member or lawyer talking about what I'm going to leave to them
Hell we even watched both videos in my concealed carry class. Ancient video.
I’ve seen the clip a million times and never knew this existed
Thanks for sharing it
It's been posted and deleted from this sub hundreds of times.
Some madlad made it better.
I just fucking shot myself, the musical
Of all the videos posted in this thread, the musical version was the only one with an age restriction. Lmao
wtf he doing with his left hand here? Get hit by a mosquito
Bringing the left arm up to protect from a strike from his left side
Can't tell if it's that or he's trying to emulate swatting a gun away.
Premature discharge is not uncommon.
I am so confused... Was he going to shoot at that target? At that range?
The explanation the guy gave was that he had been practicing with different equipment. The original holster used a thumb release, while the one in the video used an index finger release. When switching it up, he disengaged the safety instead of the holster release, and when he then corrected, he accidentally pulled the trigger. It's still his fault, but those serpa style holsters which use index releases are also just unsafe in practice.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYvAxLX6OzE
This video was also around the time when the Serpa was being exposed as a complete shit holster
Yes.
Well that is dumb. No practical situation for that.
This is quite the normal drill to learn. Plenty of practical situations for that.
If done and trained properly and correctly and not by a dude trying to play special agent from meal team six.
See my reply ITSOTMDS below. In what situation does one pull a gun right in front of someone with a gun already drawn?
Ik this is a movie but it’s literally textbook pull used for a scenario like that. However that requires an insane amount of practice and skill to do
Part of my other comment was guns are poor short distance weapons so yes don't walk up and close the distance. LOL Yeah good luck being successful winning when someone already has the draw on you and better yet hope you are the good guy in a movie.
I’m not saying it’s smart or practical. I’m saying that there exists a technique for a very specific situation (assuming you had no better options and can’t deescalate).
In most situations it’s best to deescalate or evade/avoid a confrontation entirely.
We seem to be going away from my original comment which was he going to shoot at the target at that range? That doesn't seem to be smart at all.
My brother in christ, a .45 acp does not discriminate if it hits your head from a foot away or 45 yards away. It'll still blow your brains out, It works just fine in close range
You realize that the fogure on the target is quite irrelevant here, right?
Also, what would you do? Imagine you are on guard duty, turn a corner and someone waits with a gun. What would be your adequate reaction? Do nothing?
Lets imagine another, quite common, situation. Someone gets verbally aggressive. Gets closer to you. You dont want to shoot them for being verbally aggressive. When they are close, they try to pull a knife. What do you do? Do nothing? Run away?
You're clearly trying to construct specific situations where it seems useless. That does not change that this is a very common drill, taught all around the world in military and police, for good reason.
Nobody says its the perfect shot, that guns are extremely effective at that range or that you should be in situations like this.
But you dont train for the perfect situation, right? You train for the situation where everything went wrong.
Ummmm I didn't "construct specific situations" but ONE GENERAL situation as portrayed in this video. A dude drawing a gun on a "man" with his gun already drawn.
Did you even read my original comment here? It was about actually shooting at the target at this range.
When someone pulls a knife actually you do run so you don't get your ass stabbed. A knife is ONLY effective at short distance. Someone can stab you faster (as you said it was already pulled out right?) than you can draw a gun and shoot. Once you create distance than draw your gun. You seriously don't know this?
Again, the figure on the cardboard is pretty irrelevant here. But Congrats. You got the point of the drill.
Get distance, so you can properly use your gun. That is the point. Not 'get as close as possible without your gun, then draw and shoot'.
The proper drill works exactly like this. Strike and Push the attacker away, draw and move back, shoot. But jeah. I cant fathom a situation here this could happen. The cardboard has a guy with a gun on it, after all. Its better to turn around and run without doing anything.
(Also no, not already pulled out, read the comment again)
The fact that meal team six here fucked it up does not mean there are no practical applications for this.
Its not dumb and it serves a Very Practical purpose. You need to look up Craig Douglas from ShivWorks/ SouthNarc, this is a technique that he teaches, for a reason
It is dumb... Any one reaching for a gun standing right in front of me is getting tackled or half their teeth are going to be exploding out of their mouth. Guns are more suited as long range weapons. In this case this "person" has a gun drawn already so in real life grandpa here has a big hole in the back of his head.
Cool! You should take a ShivWorks ECQC class and show them how its done!
With the first versions of the Serpa holser if you pulled on the holster at the same time you were pushing the release button the holster would lock up. A typical reaction would be to push your index finger on the relese button harder assuming you were not pressing it enough to release the pistol, while pulling harder on the pistol. Eventually, the inward finger pressure would overcome the locked condition and the pistol wold snap free very quickly. Since you are putting a lot of pressure on your trigger finger and pulling pretty hard, when the pistol snaps free your trigger finger immidialy slaps the trigger because the pressure that you were putting on the release button. The whole thing takes fractions of a second. Later people realized that if your holster locks up you have to remember to push the pistol back into the holser press the button and then slide the holster out. It has to be sequenced not simultanious.
This happend to quite a few people when this holster first came out leading to a lot of ranges and tactical schools banning this holster. I understand that Blackhawk redsigned the holster to not lock up if the button was pressed while drawing. This guy gets mocked for his video, but he did a lot of people a service.
I see this damn video all the time on here. Surely there are other idiots with guns in the world to not have to post this every other day
He hesitated when he saw the target was a white guy.
Pretty sure people were trading this clip on LimeWire and Kazaa
No matter how many times I see it, it’s funny every time.
When you're in Texas, look behind you, 'Cause that's where the ranger's gonna be...
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Oh, this again? Most reposted video in internet history.
Bound, Hospital Bound
And there goes all his macho.
Yes you did Cletus Montgomery Smith the third, yes you did
This is why you don't use Blackhawk Serpa holsters, kids.
This video gave them a bad rap, but you just have to train with them use them for the environment they are made for and they are not for casual/daily carry. This is not my opinion, this is industry opinion.
I used Sherpa when I was doing wilderness rescue in Alaska and I have one on my home defense plate carrier right now. They are made for “I don’t want my handgun to fall out while I’m fighting off ninjas or off trail in brown bear country”. Lots of people who are climbing in and out of JLTVs or MARPs all day in hostile lands primarily use them.
No, normal level 2 and 3 retention holsters are for that. A Sepra holster is banned at most ranges that you can practice at for a reason.
Yes. Yes you did.
That’s why you don’t draw your pistol by the trigger
He's 009, toes.
This one is pretty mellow for this sub
100% love this guy for being willing to say "I am the trainer, and even I make mistakes!"
How did this happen?
Did he actually pull the trigger pointed down at himself?
Or did the gun like accidentally discharge?
I carry a G2C taurus daily IWB kydex holster that covers the trigger, and the gun has a safety on it while holstered its on.
I cant imagine me pulling my gun out and that happening. Like what?
Tex is incredibly lucky he didn't shoot an artery, he probably wouldn't have survived it
“looks like an airsoft”
:)
Classic
I love how he says that.
Absolute fucking classic
This is an internet classic 🍿🥃
Maybe the objective of this drill is that your opponent won't shoot you because he'll be too busy pissing himself laughing at your antics.
Seriously though, with the setup he has for the video I was expecting something lightning-quick like one of those western quickdraw trick shot guys where you can barely see what's happening because it's so fast and not the fumbling draw and shooting himself we see here.
Lucky Luke !
I 🗣️just🗣️fuc🗣️king🗣️shot🗣️my🗣️self🗣️
Oh boy, I remember this one well.
Infamous for using a SERPA holster, which requires the user to use the trigger guard to depress the release to remove the handgun from the holster. Anybody can see why this may be an issue, but dinguses like to claim "you can fix it by training."
Meanwhile, an NRA instructor, in a video DEFENDING THE HOLSTER, you can see him finger tap the trigger while drawing.
This one's a classic