Thats all, e33 is beautiful but its a lot of big flashy things, silksong had so much character and world building baked into silksongs art

Kinda feel the same way about the best music also tbh, though its definitely closer as e33 has some truly beautiful tracks

  • If you enjoyed this game, awards don’t matter. You don’t need others to reenforce your opinions. 

    This. So much this. Like I love Clair Obscur but Silksong is GOTY in my heart and that's what matters

    Reading people being so pissy and angry about it is disheartening.

    The true win is for gamers, both that people are so compassionate about the games they feel something about an awards show and their game not winning - but 2025 was AMAZING for games. Hades II, Silksong, E33, KCD2, Split Fiction, and neither are from the usual suspects that always won at these shows a few years ago.

    It's a real treat seeing the emotions behind the people who make these beautiful games. Anyone who is angry about E33 winning should just see the award acceptance clips. Same thing happened with Astro Bot last year. The people who won these awards aren't soulless mooks exploiting their fans, it's passionate artists who would've loved to celebrate the other nominees too.

    Man, Split Fiction was that good and didn't even get nominated. This year was insanely competitive.

    Remember when people thought back in 2024 that GTA6 was going to sweep and everything else good was going to delay just to have a chance? Terrible year for gaming but incredible year for games

  • Personally would've went with Hades 2 myself, but yeah

    Yeah hades 2 or silksong easily better in any artistic sense than e33 but whtvr game awards know the game that appeals to the masses will get better publicity if it wins so they will over hype it to the extreme🤷‍♀️

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  • They're calling it the most boring Game Awards ever, but they also say that every year ig.

    EDIT: lots of people (3) telling me they actually like the Game Awards and don't just memewatch/watch it for the trailers. I didn't know that was a thing. There are still mysteries in this world.

    Ngl last year was goated cause it had a pretty solid selection of games taking it and Astro Bot winning was great

    Not really, never heard that said about them before. It's usually hype for one reason or another. This time it was just E33 appreciation day.

    I thought this TGA was great. I just don't take it as a personal insult that Skong didn't win 5 awards and GOTY

    I feel like fans of games tend to take the TGA more personally than the actual developers. Most developers probably just care about the marketing rather than the accolades, which are ultimately kind of hard to take seriously, and even the act of being nominated, let alone winning once, is potentially thousands of people checking you out who wouldn't have otherwise.

    The way Team Cherry acted in that recent interview makes it pretty clear they dngaf.

  • I’m all for Silksong, but I have a truce with E33. I don’t mind if it wins over Silksong, as long as the AAA games lose

    This take is so goofy since e33 is hardly an indie game. 

    Oh absolutely, I mean I'm glad e33 is winning comparing to the other triple A titles however I think silksong winning GOTY is MUCH more of a fuck you to to the triple A titles considering it was a small team made by passionate artists who love making art through games, was priced at a VERY CHEAP price, and wasn't rushed. Like e33 is great but silksong represents something bigger

    E33 was also made by a small team of passionate artists, released at a cheap price and wasn't rushed either, while also being a whole new IP and the studio's first ever videogame.

    "Small team" my dude the E33 team is bigger than the teams for every other nominated indie game combined.

    TBH I think that there should be two different categories for indie. Some kind of A and AA equivalent.

    The studio was made of devs from previous studios. Hardly there "first ever" video game. 

    Yes to all this but not to the cheap price. I'm sorry but even when 70 dollars (CAD) was the standard it was too much. Ofc inflation and the economy makes it harder on devs but video games should max out at 50 dollars. E33 was made by a small team of passionate artists but games should be accessible to everyone, and making games cost that much shouldn't be the standard.

    It was 45€ on release for me in Spain, usually games release at either 70 or 80€ here.

    Full price for regular is 64.99 CAD (including taxes is 70 CAD)

    Deluxe is 77.99 CAD (including taxes is 80)

    45 euros to CAD is around 72 bucks cad, im sorry but that shit is NOTTTTTT cheap. 50$ MAX (or around 30 ish € for you???(sorry if its not accurate, I dont really trust google conversions))

    (Like e33 may seem cheap but thats cuz the new industry standard triple A companies are oushing for are pricing games around 100 CAD. Like i get e33 is indie but like i shouldn't have to spend most of my day's worth of pay just to play this game)

    I've no idea about the conversion rates, but if it helps, games are priced at either 70€ or 80€ euros on release. COE33 was sold at a bit more than half that price.

    I know my info is 100% accurate because I work at a videogame retail company, so from my perspective and considering how big and polished the game is, I do think its cheap.

    That's my same stance yeah.

    Insane take... E33 is a AAA game. Massive budget and massive dev team. E33 winning is a huge blow to the indie game industry because it shows that no matter how hard you try, a bigged team with more money will still do better.

    AA is accurate, but not AAA. E33 budget was <$10 million and their dev studio was single digit people for the first 3-4 years of development. In the end they got up to 30 + contractors (mostly part-time animators), but it wasn't the behemoth that many people seem to claim.

    Where are you getting this information on the dev team? It contradicts heavily with multiple other sources claiming the core dev team was 30 people AS WELL AS dozens of extra contractors. In terms of the number of people working on it, it's easily AAA.

    If we're living in a world where "the budget was tens of millions but not HUNDREDS of millions!" is the criteria for indie then that's a huge blow to the industry and I don't doubt that many indie devs are abandoning their projects right now as they realise the only way to get popular is to have millions of dollars and a huge team of experienced game developers.

    The average AAA game can easily have hundreds of people working on them and a budget well over $100 million dollars. What are you on about?

    It is not indie but AA is a much better label. There can in fact be a space for developers between a dozen people or less and a small budget or hundreds of people and $100 million plus budget. AA fills that spot pretty well, larger budget than basically any indie ever and still a much smaller development team even with contractors than an AAA would have.

    So what's it doing in the indie game categories then?

    Just because it has a lower budget than COD doesn't make it indie. It already had a massive number of people working on it... so how many millions of dollars does it need before you admit it's a AAA game? What's the cutoff point? No doubt plenty of AAA games had fewer devs working on them.

    Reading and comprehension is clearly not your strong suit considering I literally laid out where I think the difference is between AA and AAA in budget and development team sizes. There is a huge difference between 100s of people and almost a 100 people. Same with millions or even tens of millions and well over a hundred million.

    Example? The sheer amount of money you need to spend every day to spend $1 million dollars in a year is dramatically different than what you would need to spend in a day every day to spend a $100 million.

    $2,740 vs $273,973 for reference.

    I do not think you truly understand the sheer scale difference. Same for the development team. The amount of physical labor 100 men can do is quite a bit lower than what 300 men can do. And what we have is actually a 30+ core development team with contractors on top of that vs probably easily 300+ core developers and contractors on top of that. So like 100 people vs 500 more or less? You should see the statistics for the development of the average AAA game. It is astronomical how much money is spent on them and how large their developer teams are. Just the developers, no QA or anything.

    Also nobody even mentioned the indie category except you? I was talking about the GOTY category along with the original comment? But by my own reasoning I agree, it should not be in the indie category specifically. It should be in a separate AA category. Happy?

    Point is I and the original commenter both agree that it is AA at best and not AAA. Therefore if either Expedition 33 or Silksong win then AAA loses to AA or indie respectively.

    There is a huge difference between 100s of people and almost a 100 people.

    E33 is the former. Over 400 people are credited with creating it.

    Example? The sheer amount of money you need to spend every day to spend $1 million dollars in a year is dramatically different than what you would need to spend in a day every day to spend a $100 million.

    It's hilarious to me that you had to come up with an analogy for the difference between the number 1 and the number 100. I would say that you quoted two numbers which are just 100x different, but you didn't even do that because you rounded one incorrectly.

    The amount of physical labor 100 men can do is quite a bit lower than what 300 men can do

    It is one third as much. Physical labour is extremely easy to measure.

    probably easily 300+ core developers and contractors on top of that. So like 100 people vs 500 more or less? You should see the statistics for the development of the average AAA game.

    Now look up what "average" means. Half of them are below that, and E33 is one of those games.

    Also nobody even mentioned the indie category except you? I was talking about the GOTY category along with the original comment?

    The original comment said "I don't care who wins as long as AAA games lose" in response to a game which is almost inarguably AAA winning almost every award in the show.

    Point is I and the original commenter both agree that it is AA at best and not AAA.

    Neither of these are actual terms with any defined meaning, but calling it "AA at best" is insane when if "AA" had any kind of definition then E33 would probably be well outside its budget range.

    Therefore if either Expedition 33 or Silksong win then AAA loses to AA or indie respectively.

    Somehow I don't think the original commenter meant "I hope the big budget games with large dev teams beat the other big budget games with large dev teams". The point is showing that small teams or individuals still have a chance to win, and this result is a big fat NO to that.

  • Best rpg was definitely a KCD2 snub also.

  • I can see it going either way for art direction for either game, but music is so clearly expedition 33 for me. The emotion poured into that music, the way it compliments the areas and the world and the characters is perfect in a way no soundtrack I’ve ever heard has done. Silksong’s soundtrack is great, but it’s not close.

    I got 'em both on the same level of impact, TBH. Both game's soundtracks fit into my "I wanna listen to something with vocals" and "I wanna listen to instrumentals" moods like my own skin (Music boxes neg-diff them both tho frfr). Speaking of, why haven't I made a playlist for them yet dayum.

    E33 has a better soundtrack purely for the Casino song in the Gestral village, the song is so good it genuinely made me bust

    Lol. Combining gambling highs with an eargasmic ost is definitely top 3 causes for spontaneous combustion. For me, it was the adrenaline high from fighting The Last Judge plus Choral Chambers. I can promise you that I hadn't felt that good in my life since my gf almost crushed my wind pipe with her bare hands (I still dream about it to this day).

    "I don't care"

    So fucking based

    (But it's almost cheating to use a Jazz soundtrack in a game, it's a free OST game award)

    Hell yeah, hahahaha. Not only is the genre underused and therefore distinct to hear, it's also objectively technically superb.

    I spent way more time afk hearing the OST than I'd care to admit, as much as I would have limed Silksong to win, mostly because the Cogwork Dancers soundtrack made me bust a nut, but E33 deserved every single award it got (Indie is debatable but ehh)

    The lamplighter OST is wild

    I’ve been kind of confused about the hype on the soundtrack as a whole, since I haven’t played the game but have listened to most of the OST, and will say that I think the main theme (Lumiere) and music for important moments (often more somber/slow ones, I personally found Une vie a t’aimer to be pretty cheesy and I don’t get the hype) are really good, but everything else (often times Area Name - Subarea(?) tracks) is middling to bad (did not like the dubstep track one bit) in my opinion with a few standouts that I cannot recall. So I’m wondering, what made it stand out (aside from main/important themes) to you or people reading this?

    It’s not gonna hit as hard without playing the game. Une vie a taimer is a fucking masterwork in the context of the game imo. With some spoilers the song is basically a married couple who both want to help their family and can’t decide on the best way to do so, yelling at each other that they love each other, arguing, etc. it’s beautifully written and is amazing in the context of the game.

    Either way, different people enjoy different things, so you might not love it but I and many others do. For me silksong’s soundtrack was good but nothing insanely special, but for many people it was amazing.

    I kind of imagined it would be something context related. I also think the different strokes for different folks thing applies here, as I’m a classically trained musician and really like the subtle complexity and nods to certain classical styles and eras in Silksong’s soundtrack, which makes it more engaging to listen to on it’s own for me. I think I also find that I prefer the smaller scope of its OST compared to E33s, which feels a little bloated in the released version. I also think you can take a point I made with E33’s OST and apply it to SS’s, where you could say ‘Awakening is also cheesy because of how overtly it states the Dies Irae with its incredibly dramatic orchestration’ or something like that.

    I’ve been watching my partner play and neither of us find the music impactful or good. In fact, my partner muted the game during some boss fights. I really don’t get what people enjoy about it. And it’s all very same-y too.

  • E33 is so much more than just big flashy things. Silksong and e33 are both beautiful and I don't have a preference for a winner, but e33 didn't win because it's just so flashy. It's unique and vibrant and so interesting.

    Agreed. People trashing E33 here are just pathetic. I think the award for art direction was an extremely close race between Skong, Hades 2, and E33. I wouldn't have been angry at any of them winning. E33 is a fucking gorgeous game, and even at just 10 hours in, I've had to just stop and stare at the world numerous times because of how unique, interesting, and beautiful it is

  • I think some of y'all haven't even played Expedition 33. That game is so gorgeous, every area you can walk around is like walking through a painting. It's one of the most visually stunning video games I have ever seen.

    Silksong has strong art direction and looks great, but its cartoony style is not as striking as E33.

    And I know which subreddit I'm in. I'm ready for the downvotes.

    “Every area you can walk around is like walking through a painting”

    I see what you did there

    Silksong has strong art direction and looks great, but its cartoony style is not as striking as E33.

    This is definitely why E33 won over Silksong, but I also cannot hate the median gamer enough for constantly treating realistic high-fidelity graphics as superior to all other styles.

    Also, don't pretend you genuinely think you're going to get downvoted for praising the single most praised video game lmao.

    I played nearly every goty nominee this year and I strongly think E33 had no competition when it comes to goty.

    Saying that now I would’ve liked if they threw the bone to other games like KCD2 for best RPG or Hades 2 for Best Art Direction, but E33 is in my top 5 games oat and seeing them win nearly every award is amazing

    Edit: And they just won GOTY 🥳🎉

    What are the other four? I'm planning on binging a bit this holiday.

    every area you can walk around is like walking through a painting.

    ok, but this exactly applies to silksong aswell, just cause it has a cartoony style doesn't mean it's less good it's literally just a different style, and in this case it is literal paintings, meanwhile exp 33 is made with unreal 5 assets...

    not to say exp 33 looks bad, cause it definetely doesn't, but going by your own definition of "feeling like walking trough a painting" and having the actual game made of thousands of paintings below the other one is kinda ironic

    In this case making it feel like you are walking through a painting has double the merit for reasons, especially if you take. Into account the category is called "set direction" and not "prettiest game"

    That said, I would have gone with Hades 2 over both Silksong and E33 in art direction

    I'm gonna be real, I'm sick of 3D games with Ultra Realistic HD Graphics™ being glazed to high heavens and treated as inherently superior.

    E33 looks utterly boring to me. I like my 2D games with unique styles thank you very much.

    Right now 2D games already copy each other so much, most 2D games now are just boring slop copying another 2D game art style.

    It was true 15 years ago that most 2D games would still kinda have a unique art style, right now every year come out thousands of 2D games, and for the last 5-7 years more more 2D games have started to look way too close to each other, there are still many with their own style that still can stand out but it's no longer a rare thing if you look at AA or indie games instead of just AAA.

    And this is not the case for Silksong, as Silksong art style is still one of the best this year, but pretending 2D games are always so unique and never seen before is crazy, when there are even "clones" of HK already, or look how many games look like Blasphemus.

    You may not like E33 art style, but it's not boring at all when not only it has his own style, but also make use of it in so many different ways and it even integrates it to tell you part of the story (something people praise souls for) while still having a really good history on its own.

    Watching it in discord and the people complaining haven’t touched the game lol . As someone who played every nominee but death stranding . Clair, silksong, hades in that order. Clair

    I played it , dropped within an hour , it has 0 coherence , the characters are obnoxious, the combat is persona with QTEs its ass

    I played through the whole thing, personal opinion is this game is over rated as fuck. It’s made me realize just how out of the loop I am now as I get older. People think it’s deep but when you dive in you hit your head on the bottom because of how utterly shallow it is. This generation doesn’t read books tho so I’m not surprised they think it’s “groundbreaking”.

    I think you might not be as smart as you believe, it's okay to not understand something

  • It’s game awards. Can’t expect them to actually judge well

    Just because your pick did not win is no reason for butthurt.

    smh.

    I mean, assuming this clip is true, it's only slightly better than just being a popularity contest. What they're doing can't even be described as "judging" imo.

    It did win. I’m saying that they didn’t judge well.

  • Tell me you haven't played Clair Obscur without telling me you haven't played Clair Obscur lol

  • I LOVE silksong, but E33 deserves anything it wins too. Fucking beautiful, amazing, and addictive game. Let’s not hate. It was/is so fucking gorgeous. Both are 1A/1B for me this year. Shit, donkey Kong has been great and I loved Hades 1, haven’t played 2 yet but I bought it. This year has been amazing for video games in general imo

    hades 2 is also phenomenal, you should play it

    I wanna finish silksong, just started act 3. Then I gotta finish donkey Kong, then doom, then cyberpunk DLC, then blah blah blah. Too many games, not enough time :( I bought Elden ring day 1 and haven’t touched it yet. My backlog is huge. :(

  • Silksong should've won most anticipated game. Not only did we have an incredible amount of hype, but we also were polite about it. We let team cherry do their thing instead of doing the illegal things that people did for gta6.

    Most anticipated game is for games that aren’t out yet, not ones released this year

    Silksong isn't out yet

    yes, but it released pretty late into the year, so it was still nominated

    It's supposed to be an award for upcoming games. Idk why it wasn't nominated last year. And I don't think the politeness of the fanbase really has anything to do with the level of anticipation.

    wasnt it only fully announced silksong was coming out this year in April? when the 2024 game awards happened silksong would've still been assumed to just never come out

    Silksong crashed every single storefront at once , if that isn't hype idk what is

    What does being poilte have to do with anything? Also we weren't polite. Spamming every live stream and shitting on other indie games is polite? Besides silksong hype is nowhere near GTA 6 no matter how you spin it. If you genuinely think so, you are living in a bubble.

    This is nonsense. It was already released and therefore ineligible for most anticipated game. It wasn't eligible last year because it wasn't officially announced. At literally no point could it have won this award. Why is this upvoted?

    It was nominated before it basically shadow dropped lol.  Its mostly a joke

  • To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand Silksong. The level design is extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of game design knowledge most of the game will go over a typical players head.

    “have you guys watched Rick and Morty🤓”

  • I'm not bothered by any one win, but E33 sweeping across so many categories when it had legitimate competition is a bit uninteresting, if I'm honest. I know the game is amazing, but is it really so amazing as to win *this many* awards...? Methinks not. Oh well, life goes on. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

    Insane how even the tamest opinions get downvoted into oblivion over even the most infinitesimal of perceived slight against this game. You don't even gotta say anything negative about it, your sin was not praising it enough.

  • KCD2 losing to E33 was outrageous lmao

    I haven't played KCD2 so feel free to be mean about correcting me, but it honestly looked like a more grounded/realistic Skyrim, which I find inherently boring. I heard all the hype around it, so I watched some very positive reviews and was instantly turned off to it. I thought it looked incredibly recycled, albeit very well done.

    Yeah it’s just like Skyrim it has swords

    Not even close to what I said, but go off.

  • Why are some of you so insecure a stupid game show dictates how much you like something?

    I played a SS and E33, I love them. They were great experiences that I'm grateful to have experienced.

    Life goes on, why out so much stock into arbitrary titles. Was the game the prettiest thing YOU played this year. Yes? Congrats now keep it pushing 

  • i think that silksong deserved best music 110%, having played through both, only a handful of E33 songs feel distinct, while every song in silksong feels perfectly made for their area.

    Yeah e33 has amazing songs but too many are too similar which becomes boring eventually 

    Nah, E33 music is like the best part of the game. That category was the one category it had locked in the most.

    Larkin fucking cooked with Silksong, but I can't agree it should beat E33, nor with your opinion of E33's songs not feeling distinct. E33 makes a strong case for best OST ever imo. Silksong is one of many fantastic scores, but outside of Cogwork Dancers, I don't think there's anything especially unique about it. Again, it's an awesome score and I keep returning to it, but the only one track had me like WHAT IS THIIIIIIS was the aforementioned boss track. Lorien Testard could've scored an entire additional game with only E33's biggest hits. Add in the fact that the album is his first official release? Dude is the maddest fucking lad on the planet.

  • Award shows are so stupid

  • E33 also has quite a bit of detail and thoughtfulness behind the visuals. Many of the visuals also actively build the character of the Dessendre family and build the world. In a very different way from Silksong, E33 is gorgeous and thoughtful in visual design. E33 is also novel. There aren't really any games that look like it. While the HK games paved the road for the hand drawn, detailed style, since the first game there have been a lot of stylistic copycats and between that and being stylistically lifted almost directly from the first game, Silksong doesn't feel as fresh.

    I voted for Silksong for best visuals, but E33 also knocked it out of the park. This sub loves to try to tear down other games to lift their games up (not totally uncommon in game subs but I will say it's intense here). That's not necessary and frankly it's annoying. Silksong has gorgeous, thoughtful visuals, my favorite of the year. E33 also has gorgeous, thoughtful visuals

  • I think cristopher larkin killed it with silksong ost.

    But I cant lie e33 ost is musical orgasm in my opinion. A category that is fully deserved by e33 is my view.

  • Frankly, I think that’s a terribly reductive way to look at the narrative themes and attention to detail present in E33. You can be unhappy that it won a bunch of awards, but calling it nothing but spectacle is just disingenuous to the hard work put into it.

  • Geoff could have gotten on stage and sucked the e33 devs off for 6 hours straight and it'd have been the same show

  • People prefer their games being the closest to a cinematic experience as possible. Clair expedition is the perfect game for that: 3D graphics, orchestral music, real actors as main characters... When it comes to picking a game, usually the most praised one will be the one that resembles most the cinematic experience. That's kinda sad cuz shows that videogame as a art isn't taken seriously. Not saying that e33 is ugly and the graphics are bad, is a really beautiful game. But Silksong is way more unique in it's own and way more beautiful beacuse of that. This game awards is the perfect example of this.

  • I can’t participate in any conversations because i never played E33 because my only devices i have are a switch one and an old ipad, so euhh idk

    Oh man wtf it’s also not on ps4 argh thats too bad

  • I love the game of the year awards as a whole, it’s great for the community, grows games, promotes indies, and is just a good watch most of the time.

    But I do think it can be very biased, so I tend not to take goty too seriously.

    As for the art yeah, it does look like your basic 3d realistic art.

    Silksongs backgrounds are actually insane, every little hand drawn detail that changes constantly at different points in the game is nuts. I do think if not silksong then something other than E33.

    Music I haven’t listened to the game yet.

    Game of the year is just preference to me, I would choose the combat of silksong/hollow knight over most other games.

  • Will always be my game of the year

  • It could've gone to either game and I'd be just as happy. Both were very deserving. I personally voted for Silksong on this one, but I don't mind that E33 won.

  • Maybe the real silksong GOTY was the friend we made along the way...

  • E33 is probably the most overrated game of all time

    I'd love for Silksong to win Game of the Year, but judging by the number of awards they've won, it's no surprise that E33 will win Game of the Year. Ig they earned it, I personally don't like the turn-based system, but the game looks nice ngl.

    That's how I feel about Silksong

    It's a very mediocre game. I've never been more baffled by a circle jerk than the E33 one.

    Rigged from the start they’d win. Why did it have to be this year they released (E33 not Silksong)

  • oh my god why are you guys already crying.

    HK fans? Crying??? Noooo

  • The only thing I'm kinda fair with it winning is the music. Art direction could've easily gone to Silksong, Hades 2 or Yotei.

    I'm with you there. Art direction also could have easily gone to E33, which it did. There were many strong contenders this year in many categories. I'm glad E33 got GOTY because they deserve it (as does Team Cherry!), but I wish they would've given best indie to Silksong instead. I feel like they had to give it to E33 since it also got GOTY, and to make a statement that "even indie games can be GOTY!" But it would've been nice to spread some of that acknowledgment around to what was ultimately a pretty stacked year in gaming. As long as E33 took music, I would've been stoked. Music + GOTY was my best case scenario. Sweeping the show wasn't surprising, but everything after music and GOTY was just icing on the cake.

  • Originality edges out precision. Silk Song, while probably my favorite game of the year, is an evolution of what Hollow Knight already established. E33 had so many incredible visual moments, interesting characters unlike anything else in games, such a mood, and of course incredible mocap performances.

    All of that from a new game, new studio, not part of a franchise. I think it deserves the wins it got.

  • trashing on E33 because your favorite game didn’t win is the most childish thing ever holy shit, i can ignore whatever you said about art direction (which is completely wrong btw) but music? genuinely how E33 music is beyond insane.

  • E33 music isn't my jam. It's just nonsensical language opera.

  • It winning best ost over Yotei really made me realize something’s not right. Exp 33 has good music, but I’ve heard it before. Yotei was very innovative with its mixture of Japanese traditional music and spaghetti westerns.

    Exp 33 won over literally everything. Do sweeps like this happen often at TGA?

    when baldurs gate 3 came out it man you didn't even need to watch the show. If it was in the list it was winning no discussion

    It's pretty upsetting to me how many categories E33 won in

    I'm a Hades player, not Hollow Knight. Just wanted to come see how you guys felt about the sweep

    Tbh I knew it was gonna happen. I loved kingdom come deliverance 2 but I knew it just wasn't going to win anything. although part of me wanted for it to win atleast 1 thing. Still a great game I definitely recommend it!

    This particular sweep was facilitated by almost all high profile games failing to deliver due to the AAA crisis and the game also being able to compete for best indie and best indie debut, but sweeps like this do happen.

    It was all baldur's gate 3 in its year (which technically qualified for best indie as well btw but was excluded because of its huge budget, not that I'm comparing it to Clair Obscur's apparently minuscule one, just saying), with fiercer high profile competitors and it was the case for Elden ring as well.

    Anyway the point is: big sweeps like this are not a victory for gamers, but a loss. There's nothing to celebrate about the state of this industry.

    Yeah I would have much preferred an even distribution of awards across all the nominees. Why were they nominated if they didn't deserve to win? I guess Clair Obscura did literally everything better :/

    Of all the awards to claim E33 didn't deserve, music is by far the wildest take 😂 you're crazy for that one, but i like your style

    No. It didn’t.

    Not saying the music is bad. I’m not even saying the music is mid. It’s good! It’s high quality music. But there’s nothing really innovative about it. It’s decent orchestra I hear all the time. Same can be said for silk song tbh.

    Is that really a wild take? Or are you that much of a glazer?

    It’s decent orchestra I hear all the time.

    This statement alone tells me you are not as familiar with the soundtrack, or perhaps even music in general, as you think you are. Yes, that is absolutely a wild take. In all seriousness, it would make more sense for you to say you didn't like the music than "it's decent orchestra I hear all the time".

    I can agree with that take for Silksong. Only Cogwork Dancers is a really unique track imo. The rest is good/great orchestral music. E33 has many, many different genres and styles beyond standard orchestral fare (prog rock, rock opera, metal, electronic, ambient, and jazz, to name some of the more prominent ones). To claim otherwise is flat out ignorant or disingenous. Again, you don't need to like it, but saying the soundtrack is "just orchestra" is objectively false.

    I just thought it was decent. That’s it. Not gonna shit on it for not being more. But I didn’t think it was innovative to beat Yotei. Not a wild take at all. If you think that’s a wild take you need to go outside sit on a park bench or something.

    Way to move the goalposts and ignore the part where I proved your argument wrong.

  • Fuck man, at least the game exists.

  • They are both really, really excellent games. They are also extremely different.

    All I’ll say is that I would have flown out to LA and started a riot if we lost best action/adventure.

  • I love silksong more than I loved E33. I can't confidently say that silksong should have beaten it in any category for which they were both nominated, besides best indie game.

  • I wouldnt say it was highly detailed. Characters maybe but the world itself it doesnt look to mesh well

    If you have played silksong and think the world is not detailed then you are playing a pirated rip off version made in paint. Whether you like the art style or not, even a child could tell how detailed it is and the world meshes together especially well.

    This sounds like the opinions similar to people saying the game sucks but they stopped playing at moorwing

  • Music belonged to DS2… Last Dive, they did cook with that one