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Re: Stickergate, can someone please explain how you find a phone number connected to an email? Really hoping my many emails can’t all be traced back to me somehow lol 😅
From 03 Nov scuffles
- request a recovery code for the target email. This typically is sent to a linked phone number, and the last few digits of the phone number are shown for confirmation
- ask the person you suspect of having that email for their phone number
- see if the part shown matches the number you know is theirs.
- if they do, you can suspect that the owner of the number also owns the address. They might not, since the last few digits aren't unique, but it's unlikely that someone else associated with the drama just happens to have a matching phone number!
Thank you!!!
More general options: - if you have provided your phone number as a recovery option for your email, then the email provider has a link between the two - if you used that email to sign up for the phone number, then the phone company can link the two
- any company that you gave both email and phone number to (e.g. for a delivery) has a link between them
None of those should be publicly accessible, but if (say) the police needed to prove it, they could potentially use those.
This is more of a hobby question, but it's something that should probably lead to interesting discussion. What's a hobby/interest that, once you get even the slightest bit into, immediately forces you to learn how Wrong the common knowledge and representation of that thing is?
That's a bit long winded so I wanna illustrate with an example: aquariums. I don't have a tank myself and I certainly dont have enough knowledge to run one, but my parents have multiple. And it's funny how having just some basic expose to fish keeping (water changes, stocking, correct tank size ect) makes you realise how wrong a lot of the common knowledge of fish are. From the stereotypical goldfish in a bowl, to the assumption that fish are stupid and easy to care for, to the way animals like betta fish are marketed and sold in the US.
And once you get that basic bit of knowledge, you basically can't stop noticing it. Which is why I wanna ask - what are some other "Pandoras box" style hobbies?
I cant get any of my guns to make a super loud cocking sound every time I pick up or point them like in the movies but maybe I'm holding them wrong
CG animation. It's common for folks to complain about VFX in modern movies as a whole if they notice any obvious CGI, to the point where people flat out say that the use of any CGI in live-action movies is bad and therefore movies are often marketed as though they're mostly using practical effects even if they're not, but just a slight amount of education about it really illuminates how much CGI is invisible to the average viewer.
It also definitely seems like a lot of people dismiss CG animation as though it's automated or a shortcut in contrast to the painstaking work of hand-drawn animation. Like the seemingly common assumption that a human animator isn't doing much and everything is just mo-cap, so the creativity and skill required are minimized and the cost of labour is often argued to be too expensive (especially in discourse about how large the budgets of certain animated movies are). That all frankly worries me considering the push for AI video generation.
Oh yeah there's an excellent series on youtube that really opened my eyes about this.
could you share what it is?
here ya go
I haven't read Kafka's The Trial until a few months ago, and my impression based on how the internet spoke about it was that it was dystopian tragedy about a hapless everyman forced to fight against a cruel system.
When I actually read it, the protagonist is like a bizarre amalgamation Charlie, Mac and Dennis who constantly makes things worse by belittling officials, shirking legal counsel and having sex with the wives/mistresses of people he shouldn't piss off.
It was much more black comedy than I expected.
Game development. Both TTRPG and video game development. You dabble a little, and then you see how wrong the common person is about both.
Copyright. I'm not a legal professional but if you've ever had me annoyingly correct your understanding of IP law in these threads you can probably guess that it's a bit of a special interest for me lol. People simultaneously overestimate and underestimate what is covered by copyright. Some things that tend to surprise people:
The fact that AI generated images may be uncopyrightable does not mean that works which use them (e.g. a video game using AI generated textures) are uncopyrightable. There is no "virality", it's just as if you used a public domain image.
DMCA 1201 prevents you from bypassing a copy protection mechanism even if ypur reason for bypassing it is completely legitimate. This is why Nintendo keeps sending legal threats to emulator devs despite the fact that emulators are perfectly legal. They essentially bake easily bypassed DRM into their consoles for the sole purpose of exploiting this quirk of copyright law.
Plagiarism (in an academic sense) is usually legal. Pretty much unless you copy someone else verbatim you are well within your rights to present the factual results of someone else's research any way you like, with or without credit. Copyright doesn't let you own facts, for obvious reasons.
You also can't copyright recipes, instructions, technical designs, etc. This is what patents are for, and the standards are much higher for those.
Along similar lines, whether or not you credit someone is completely outside of the domain of copyright. The only situation where this comes up is if you're dealing with something like the creative commons attribution license that specifically requires it.
The "the user grants the service provider a worldwide irrevocably nonexclusive transferrable... etc. license" thing that people periodically discover in a website's ToS and freak out about is standard boilerplate that is essentially there to let them serve user generated content. It's probably more broadly stated than it strictly needs to be, but a contract like this is necessary for any social media site to be able to simply display your posts.
The fanfiction thing scares me, especially with the AI issue causing people to campaign for a copyright crackdown. Like . . . my whole body of work exists in a legal gray area, I would rather have it be scraped by AI than be sued and have it all deleted.
Yeah copyright is an extremely poor tool for empowering creative workers, for the simple reason that most creative workers do not own the copyright to their work. I'm getting sick of handing out 'fell for it again' awards to people who continually take the word of entertainment industry lobbying groups as if they represented artists instead of the artists' bosses.
They want copyright to be the "solution" to AI for the same reason that they wanted it to be the "solution" to the labor issues caused by every major technological development from movable type to bittorrent: because stronger copyright makes their IP more valuable. Imagine you're sitting on the rights to a quarter of all English language television shows produced in the past fifty years. Now suppose you see before you the opportunity to demand a license for mere statistical analysis of this content. It's nothing more than a land grab. If you want to see where this is headed, ask yourself whether the RIAA's blustering about streaming in the '10s (or file sharing a decade earlier, or tape dubbing a decade before that) lead to richer musicians or richer monopolists. Not so many musicians making their living from royalty payments these days...
IP rights are property rights. It's very important to remember this. Like any property right, it benefits those who own the most property at the expense of those who own the least. Perhaps property relations serve a legitimate purpose in our society... I'm not here to sit anyone down and give them the big Marxism talk... but whatever that role may be it is certainly not the empowerment of workers; that much is undeniable.
Being a legal professional that knows a lot about IP law makes me absolutely infuriated by 78.4% of the things I read online.
You're doing pretty good and I couldn't find much wrong about these common copyright misconceptions on first glance, which is why I have to bring up the clarification that recipes can have protectable elements like written embellishments and photographs even if the ingredients and baseline instructions are not copyrightable.
I only know about the recipe issue because of the Recipe Tin Eats drama, where the owner of the site had her recipes plagiarised by an influencer who published them in a book.
Right you can copy the instructions and ingredients but you can't copy the three paragraphs of exposition about how the chef's picky two year old daughter and vegan brother in law both love this pasta recipe. It's always seemed incredible to me that software gets such broad copyright coverage while seemingly everything else like it is much more limited. (For instance, I recall a somewhat famous case where it was found that while a floorplan of a house could have copyrightable elements, the basic layout of the rooms is not one of them). I presume it's mostly the result of the fact that the United States was in the midst of exporting its copyright law as a tool of economic imperialism around the time a lot of the major software decisions were made.
Sewing. Fast fashion has messed people up about how hard and expensive any sort of sewn project is.
The thing that drives me mad about sewing is how little actual sewing it involves.
Any time I see someone say that paying over $10 for a T-shirt is 'ridiculous' I twitch a little. Also the amount of people who show up on the sewing subreddit with an image of a couture gown who are like 'my only sewing experience is I fixed a button once but I love this gown and don't want to pay $400 for it, I need it in three weeks how would I go about sewing it for cheaper.' And the gown is just yards upon yards of tulle. There are certainly some things that you can sew yourself cheaper than buying it but there are much less of those than people think, and most of them are predicated on the assumption that you already have basic sewing tools, knowledge and probably an existing stash of scrap fabric and trims.
I still don't understand how sewing something yourself isn't cheaper, assuming you're not calculating the value of your own labor. Like I know that that's the case, but what nightmare of exploitation and corporate privilege results in that?
Uh Greek myth is kinda miserable. Majority of the conversations on sites and social media has boiled down to repeating popular social media people's head canons or well Percy Jackson. Basically, people who have never actually engages with the original stories. So trying to correct them is a fruitless endeavor because they aren't actually interested in anything outside making the Characters their blorbos.
Add in games like Hades where no one reads how much Supergiant removed a lot of the original stories to make it more sanitized, but people will still repeat the removed text in game discussions.
NGL the kind of gymnastics the Supergiant writers have to do to remove all the incest and rape from the family tree is impressive when you know even a little about the OG myths. Seeing them trying to write around Zagreus, Thanatos, and Meg's relationships was like watching a spy dodging a room full of lasers.
This isn't as big of a difference as what other examples, but a lot of people who started playing D&D because of the Community episode have a slightly wrong idea of how D&D is actually played.
Also people who started playing because of critical role or especially the adventure zone have a pretty skewed idea of what a normal game looks like. I haven't played with any myself but I've definitely heard stories of players who expected an entire audio drama to unfold in front of them that they'd get partial credit for instead of, you know, a game that they have to actively participate in that's run by people who don't do this for a living.
Knitting or crochet. People who don't do either tend to use the words interchangeably. The techniques are entirely different and doing one doesn't necessitate you can do the other.
When you become more informed on the exotic pet trade so many 'cute animal videos' can quickly become borderline unwatchable because that shouldn't be in your house man.
It takes every single ounce of strength in me to not fly into a rage at my discord buddies every time one of them posts a video of like, a serval or wolfdog in somebody's house
Honestly, I was going to straight up answer “animal care.”
Me with any and all exotic animal content aside from aza zoos tbh. Like there was a recent viral vid of a chinese furry PETTING A HYENA. A FULL ASS SPOTTED HYENA. IN A MALL. WTF.
and people were treating it like it was just a big dog, what's the big deal...
It is all fun and games until that hyena acts like a hyena does.
If I found out that shit happened at my local mall id be furious. Big WHS problem!
Every sugar glider video fills me with rage. That shouldn't be there! Get a couple of rats, we've bred them to enjoy living with us.
I'd say Rubiks Cube solving falls into this somewhat. There seems to be two prevailing assumptions of how a cube is solved. The less common being that cubers have memorized every single scramble (of which there are 42 quintillion). And the other being that you have to know maths to solve one.
In reality, while there are a few different methods, they all have aspects of memorization of algorithms for each step (the most common method, CFOP, using them the most). Which once those outside the hobby learn this - it seems to create this counter-assumption that solving has zero thought / strategy behind it. Which is also untrue as all solving methods use intuitive solving in some aspects. And even with algorithms, theres strategy to which one you learn, as well as knowing how moves change the rest of the cube so you can know which algorithm will be needed for upcoming steps.
Almost everything about astronomy and spaceflight
I am just now discovering the Starbucks Bearista drama, which is Peak Capitalism(tm).
Starbucks heavily advertised a new limited availability product for the season: a $30 glass mug shaped like a bear, nicknamed the Bearista. Fans of the brand became obsessed with the mug, as intended. Starbucks then informed the public the release would be even more limited than usual.
Fast forward to the release date: people call up their local Starbucks to figure out how limited the bears are and a number of shops turn out to have zero bear in stock, or only a couple. People line up at 3am to be first in line to buy a bear but there are no limitations on how many you can buy so the first customer buys up all the stock. In some cases, employees buy the cups before the shop opens, leading to arguments between angry would-be bear-buyers & baristas.
Within days, resellers are putting up bears on ebay for $300. Huge amounts of videos are uploaded to tiktok & other socials: "I have the bear", "I missed out on the bear but got Hello Kitty", "here's why I'm angry about not getting the bear"... And of course "why are you getting the bear" videos pointing out the obvious: the bears are eminently breakable, impossible to wash, don't fit in mug holders, and you can buy similar items for a fraction of the price without the branding.
How likely is it that Starbucks, which advertized the bears to 17.7m followers on Instagram, did not know they would sell out? In a post-Labubu marketing world, there's a huge likelihood they did know and orchestrated the campaign & scarcity to create buzz, at the expense of their own staff and customers. The best part: a number of people are asking Starbucks to re-release the bears, meaning we could have a wonderful follow-up at Christmas.
Edit: oh and if you want to get real Conspiracy Theory about it, one of the main unions has been in talks with Starbucks for 6 months to improve working conditions and since nothing is happening they announced they would be striking on November 13th. The Bear Drama is pulling all focus from the strike.
You know that Starbucks created a load of hype around the bear and then sent out a limited stock of the bears to cause a social media meltdown. It means people are talking about Starbucks and about the bear, while also sowing division against baristas who were planning to strike.
Thank you so much. Thank you so so much. This is exactly the petty bullshit I come to Hobby Drama for. This is perfect.
My food bank regularly gets unsold Starbucks merch donated to us, so I'll let y'all know if we happen to see any bearistas drifting downline to us.
I live for petty bullshit so it's my pleasure, really.
If you're going to obsessively purchase branded corporate merch, why the hell would you pick Starbucks of all things? At least Disney has a theme park you can go to...
Some people are just that obsessed with making a brand part of their personality.
My tinfoil hat theory is that they had the 'drop' planned and ready, but the knowledge of the strike made them - perhaps - reschedule it sooner. Strike pressure/diffusion tactics aren't a new thing.
Also that's not a mug, that's a fragile, bear-shaped glass jar.
$300 ? I saw one selling on eBay for $1.500.00!!
Was it selling for that much or just listed for that much? I can list dog shit for a million dollars on ebay, that doesn't mean it's selling for that much.
It was that or best offer(so maybe LIstening)
They've been doing this since long before Labubus were a thing. Just google "starbucks red cup day", artificial scarcity has always been part of the strategy
I looked up the bearista, expecting a cute and wintery mug worth waking up at 4am for, and I was NOT ready for what it looks like. Starbucks is grifting HARD. Those bear-shaped honey squeeze bottles look better than that!
And yeah, it's 100% to draw the attention away from the actual issues, as is tradition. They know what they're doing.
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What country is that?
I really hope somebody writes a good analysis about Starbucks' business model shifting between beverages/food service and limited merch drops. Between this and the hoopla over Starbucks-branded stationery in Asia, wouldn't surprise me in the least if they make the full transition into a lifestyle brand in the future.
It’s frustrating how many places are like this. Every micro brewery or hip coffeeshop has a merch table. Just no. Branding is bad.
It’s the Stanley tumblers all over again
Genuinely speaking, how does any company these days not think to have buy limits on exclusive/limited stock.
If you want to create artificial scarcity, it's a feature, not a bug.
I don't think that tracks. They aren't creating artificial scarcity by releasing, like 300 units and letting one person buy 300 of them all at the same time. That's just normal scarcity and the company doesn't profit any more by one person buying all the stock at once. I mean Disney only lets people buy like 2 popcorn buckets at a time.
I was wondering why the store's staff would let one person buy all of them, even if there was no corporate policy about it.
Then I realised that, if I was in that position, I would absolutely want to just get rid of all those mugs as quickly as possible so I didn't have to deal with that shit any more.
On the other hand, now you'd just have to explain to every customer that they've sold out, so gotta pick your poison
/r/starbucks has a pinned FAQ about the bear drama and apparently shops had official instructions not to limit the number of bears per customer. Which obviously adds to the drama.
It has been some time since I've updated this sub with the crazy things that have happened in Spider-Man. Frankly, there hasn't been anything exciting to share on that front in that there's only the normal level of outrage. But luckily, Batman: Hush 2 has us covered.
Announced in October of last year, Hush 2 is the sequel to Batman: Hush, a very popular Batman story from the 2000s. While the writing has generally been criticized as lackluster, it is nonetheless a bestseller that's well known among the most casual of Batman readers. It featured the artwork of superstar artist Jim Lee, kickstarted a serious Batman/Catwoman relationship, and served as a beginner's introduction to the world of modern Batman. Naturally, as with the case of The Dark Knight Returns and The Killing Joke, DC decided to follow it up years later with a bad sequel.
When it was first announced, many doubted that Hush 2 would actually come out in time, due to Lee's tendency to simply not finish his projects. Unsurprisingly, DC announced that H2SH (yes, that's how it's spelled) would be released in two parts: the first six issues as part of the main Batman ongoing title, and the next six issues as a separate mini-series. This was done so that main Batman title could re-launch with a #1 issue under the next creative team of Matt Fraction and Jorge Jimenez. That title has only drawn the regular level of performative outrage from Twitter, due to Fraction saying in an interview that he plans to make the book primarily about Batman and not include every single Batfamily member in every issue.
Hush Tuah, on the other hand, is a rollercoaster. The first three issues came out in a timely manner, from March to May. The fourth issue saw a month delay and slipped to July. And from there on out, there were delays, delays, and more delays, to the surprise of absolutely no one. Meanwhile, Fraction's Batman re-launched right on schedule, and it (along with every other Batfamily book) has ignored Huh-Toosh. The fifth part is scheduled to release next week, with the last issue of part 1 allegedly coming out in January of next year. Allegedly.
Anyway, Htuash is ass. And not just mildly ass. While the first Hush was considered to be mediocre as a story, it did serve a function in introducing readers to the villains and allies of Batman. It's a Chinese buffet, and there's a little something for everyone. Hush 2, on the other hand, seems to check off every contrived excuse for forced conflict. We have Batman saving the Joker's life, shooting Jason Todd in the head with a gun, and getting into a fight with the whole Batfamily.... again. The preview is out, and now we have... Batman re-crippling Barbara Gordon in order to distract Nightwing. I can't make this up. This sounds like what some power scaler would make up in a list of "Batman contingency plans". No really, it is.
HU2H was right there, man.
It would still have sucked but at least it makes more sense visually.
From everything I’ve read about past plots, this comic’s modern history feels like it’s been one big game of tug of war between two visions of the character. It sounds exhausting.
Its what happens when you have multiple writers swapping out they are going to want to write stories about the version of the character they grew up current status quo be dammed.
Honestly I wonder which is the worst at having fans running things, comics has to be up there because of this tug of war.
Batman writers feuding with Spider-Man writers to win the "my status quo is better than your status quo" competition
as a movies fan and only read a few batman comics, those spoilers sound like absolute ass
Hush Tuah made me laugh. Are you happy now
2 Hush 2 Hushious
H2SH sounds like the latest and hottest Korean boyband.
But also those spoilers are sending me in their absurdity, oh my god. When Jason wanted you to go lax on your no killing thing, that wasn't what he meant, Bruce.
There's a kpop girl group called Hearts2Hearts that often has their name abbreviated as H2H and their fandom name is S2U, so that's what I keep thinking of whenever I see H2SH.
Hearts2SHarts
(I'm sorry)
I mean he slit Jason's throat with a batarang to save Jonkler in the original Under the Hood arc, this isn't entirely new.That was also not what he meant!
I probably will never read Hush 2: The Search For More Money, so I'm just going to assume everything you just wrote is a lie. It makes more sense than the truth.
Some rumblings of discontent in Umamusume today, with the conclusion of the Leo Cup Champions Meet.
For those not in the loop, Champions Meet is the big, occasional PvP event that sparks the bulk of the game's grind for the more invested players. Players submit to one of two leagues ("Open", intended for casual players, has a hard ceiling on the grade of umas you can enter with, and "Graded", which has no such restriction and gives higher rewards). The Meets run in three rounds, two qualifiers that sort players into rough categories on performance, and the Final, which is a single race for your final prize so long as you won at least 1 race in round 2.
Leo Cup is the fourth Champion's Meet, and by this time the global server has figured out that closely following the lead of the JP server meta works out well. This also makes the Meets EXTREMELY competetive and heavily reliant on running specific runners to exact specifications and then hoping for good luck to not get blocked. Typical setups so far have been one "support" Uma whose purpose is not to win, but to cause problems for the 6 racers entered by opponents, and 2 "aces", usually using different pacing strategies to make them harder to shut out. This meet, the Summer alt of Maruzensky and Nice Nature are staples, with the third being flexible.
So what's the point of complaint? Well, because global servers released 4 years after JP, we're on a significantly accelerated schedule; right now we're getting the .5 Anniversary bonuses less than five months after launching. It doesn't sounds like much but theres some real resource crunch, leading to Cygames deciding to increase certain rewards starting last month. One other side effect of this accelerated schedule is... the second career scenario, Unity Cup ("Aoharu Hai" in JP). In JP, it released after Leo Cup had concluded, but on global it launched the other day, in the middle of Round 2. The new scenario is unfamiliar to global players, and has the same stat caps as the initial URA Finale scenario, but once players got the hang of it, it was possible to produce Aces on par with top URA results shockingly easy. Cygames didn't seem to worry about that affecting Leo Cup though, as there's no restrictions about entering new racers to the Final round, meaning some players were running new Unity aces, while others stuck with their URA aces, to mixed results.
Some players are upset that racers they spent a good chunk of time prepping ended up eclipsed by a decent run of Unity, calling the situation unfair. Others managed to eke out wins with their trusted team and didn't notice a difference. Some people are far less worried about that and focused more on what the upcoming balance changes will do to the meta going forward. Personally, I was never going to sink enough time or money into the game to really compete with top players, so I was going to take my bronze and call it good enough either way.
Yeah, idk what people expected. There's never been any team changing restrictions on CM. Every time you go in for an attempt, you can change your entire team.
My ura f2p gold ship was doing great all the way into the A final race where I got paired up against two shiny new unity ace A+ S!Maru and got completely and unsurprisingly annihilated.
I’m glad we’re getting the free 100 rolls on support cards, I’m just praying to actually get a damn Riko. I’m 130 in and don’t even have more than 2 R Riko so far.
Are you perhaps me because I had the exact same situation. At least we still get titles if we don't come first but still...my Golshi...the one time I actually run her just because I like her and not because she's indisputable meta
To rub salt into the wound I then did some pulls on Matikanefukukitaru's banner and instantly got summer Maruzensky...the one goddamn time I ignore meta to pull fave I get meta-d anyway
I personally did some runs of Unity Cup and got B+ Umas. Good, right?
I'm on the B grade runs.
All of my best horses are too good for Open but not good enough for Graded.
I'm pretty sure there's still matchmaking in Graded, where you'll tend to be matched with other horses close to your rating. Like, you'll probably not gonna be matched with any A+ or S rank horses unless there really isn't anyone else to match with. That's probably the only explanation on how I got 1st with my slapped together team, at least.
Open is also somehow more toxic than Graded because of how much you can minmax a B grade into being absolutely disgusting. I made the mistake of doing Open during the first CM and was seeing runners with negative skills on purpose to lower the grade score.
I just came across something strange. A YouTuber posted a video about one of the topics I made a write-up about. Naturally, I clicked on it... and realized very quickly that they just copy-and-pasted large chunks of my write-up into their script.
Anyone else here find out they've become fodder for sloptube?
There are definitely TikTok accounts who steal entire posts from here and then regurgitate it.
They don’t give credit but what irritates me the most is how they act like they are these deeply knowledgeable investigative journalists, there’s this air of superiority and smugness that they are letting you in on this secret drama they have discovered through rigorous research. UGH.
I don’t want to call it “slop” technically, since it kind of predates that kind of thing (and, of course, they did give me credit for it), but I had a (poorly-thought-out, and incorrect in hindsight) Star Trek fan theory that I was accused of “stealing” (as an aside, I don’t think that’s something you can steal?) from a fan site. I looked up the fan site in question, and it turns out they had written an article about it (again, not slop by any means as they did actually write it themselves) that cited my one of my Reddit comments as a source.
EDIT: clarification, I’m saying the example in my comment wouldn’t be slop. The thing OP is describing definitely is, and plagiarism is lazy af in addition to being immoral. Admittedly my first example is off-topic in relation to the question, so sorry of the confusion!
Not quite the same thing, but still was interesting and vaguely adjacent.
Although halfway through writing that up, I remembered seeing a bunch of YouTube videos that just read out Reddit comments with an AI voice where stuff I’d written had shown up. They did generally at least leave the username in, but it was still quite odd to see. I don’t even necessarily have a problem with it beyond cringing at things I’d written years ago, but then again there’s a huge difference between “reading out a comment or story from Reddit, with credit given and making it clear that’s what you were doing” and “straight-up plagiarising someone’s HobbyDrama writeup.”
I’ve got a hypothesis posts from this subreddit probably end up in YouTube videos quite often without credit, but it doesn’t get notice because we’re a) a fairly small community and b) there’s maybe not much overlap between people who read writeups here and people who watch “sloptube” channels.
Sorry but I have to disagree. If plagiarizing can get you kicked out of college, it can certainly be classified as slop.
And slop in terms of internet content is defined as low effort or stolen content, stuff that's easily able to be churned out like a machine. Plagiarizing absolutely counts as slop considering it's usually copy and paste, or switching like three words around
To clarify, I also would class plagiarism as “slop,” I meant the example I gave initially wasn’t plagiarism. Sorry, my wording was a bit ambiguous.
Ohhhhhh no worries!
Yeah I was so confused, I was like what do you mean slop and plagiarism aren't similar lol
I remember like 6 years ago I posted a meme here on Reddit and this meme compilation channel called Memenade used my meme as the thumbnail for his newest video. I didn't really care that much that he stole it, cuz it was just something I threw together in like 5 minutes and if anything, I just thought it was more funny than anything else.
you should start some drama by claiming the video
Unless the YouTuber was some low-level slop channel with few views, it's not really a good idea. Deranged fans are everywhere and can make one's life a living hell.
If it's a nobody, then yes, go nuts.
But, god! Imagine the HobbyDrama post about that one . . . it would be one for the ages.
one must know exactly how many 10 year olds they can beat in a fight before attempting, yes.
It’s all in the technique.
Given how niche the things I write about here are, I would be genuinely surprised if anyone ever did that.
never YouTube videos as far as I know but I've had reddit posts I made stolen by facebook users and even a crude flash game I made in middle school posted on another site.
I know of one youtube video that read one of my comments, and I've popped up in a lot (well, not a LOT) of buzzfeed and yahoo articles, boredpanda, random facebook pages.
Sure would be nice to have been paid for any of them.
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if they were reporting on the comments themselves, maybe. like if i wrote a story called "people on reddit are talking about hobby drama" and then quoted posts in this thread it would probably be fair use. you can't generally just copy someone else's secondary reporting though. preventing this exact thing was in fact the earliest purpose of copyright in british law. it was created to keep newspaper publishers from copying stories verbatim from other papers. that said, i think it's generally assumed that typical social media comments aren't substantial enough to be copyrightable, though some of the writeups in this sub probably would be. if a youtuber literally just reads your writeup you could probably claim it.
At the start of each month on the war thunder forums several posts suggesting new vehicles or features get chosen to be passed along to the devs. There's also few youtubers who basically just read off changelogs and datamines every few days just slowly enough to make their videos long enough to monetize.
So when one of my suggestions got chosen it was very strange to hear one of those youtubers read through it. I'd say he did it word for word but he did not do a very good job of it.
Depending on the age of your posts, it could have also been slopped out of an AI prompt. Reddit sells its user submitted comments to genAI companies.
Uh, not looking to dogpile here but who did that?
I didn't want to link them and give them any traffic. They're a smallish channel that makes videos primarily on kpop and Korean entertainment drama, cranking out a video a day, complete with an AI voiceover. The definition of slop.
Awful news in the world of tokusatsu.
Yesterday, it was announced that Maya Imamori, who portrays Sumino/GozyuUnicorn in No.1 Sentai Gozyuger, will leave her role in the show and has been released from her talent agency, with underage drinking being cited as the cause.
Gozyuger has been surrounded by bad press for a while now; first with the slanderous rumors claiming Imamori had an affair with a suit actor, then the as-yet-unconfirmed reports that Super Sentai is ending with Gozyuger. If it really is over, that's a depressing note to go out on, especially now with a young woman's career getting destroyed. Even Kamen Rider Agito lead actor Toshiki Kashu complained about this on his Twitter:
Oof. Gozyuger already has issues with...A lot, and is carrying on the "Final Sentai" flag. This is like if Decade ended up becoming the final Kamen Rider series and Totani's actions caught to him at around episode 13.
Of course, it's sad for the actress too, this will absolutely tank her career and it's not gonna be easy for a long time. God this sucks from every possible angle...
The whole thing's just fucked. Not only have Toei and Maya's agency destroyed her acting career because of racist tabloid bullshit, but they've also screwed over the rest of the cast and crew of Gozyuger because now they have to undo months of writing and filming because their bosses decided to fire one of the show's main characters and completely remove her from the show for no good reason.
If those Sentai rebranding rumors are true, I bet Toei's really fucking eager to get that ball rolling now because this is such an unbelievably bad look for them.
And now the newest episode has aired and the Ministry of Truth would be proud.
Goddamn this story is tragic. There's a teenage actress being groomed by a 40 year old and being supplied alcohol by the legal adults around her, and she's getting punished for it. She needs an intervention and therapy, not to get publicly humiliated and blacklisted.
(She's 19, so i dunno if grooming is the right term, but it sure feels like thats whats happening.)
And that's not even getting into the can of worms that is how she's been a gravure model since she was 16...High school girls modelling for what is essentially softcore porn is apparently a-okay, but underage drinking is where the line is drawn.
This situation reminds me a lot of the firing of the Red Hood writer a couple months back. In both cases, in a vacuum, the argument that the person's actions warranted some sort of discipline is valid, but that the company's response was to go full scorched earth on the person's entire career just makes their own hypocrisy and bigotry obvious.
Japanese agencies usually take underage drinking very seriously. Something that's a crime, or appears to be a crime, can be career-ending. A few years back, an underage AKB48 was fired after a picture of her holding an (open) alcoholic beverage was leaked.
I was just coming here to post this with some sources and reactions (see official statement here, her being dropped from the promo website here, and the backlash here, and here) - lots of people blaming the gossip magazine for starting the rumour, Toei and her agency Seju for staying silent during that and now seemingly throwing her under the bus for a seemingly minor offence, and discussing how much anti-Phillipine racism (Imamori being half-pinoy) might have made things even worse.
Here's another reaction.
Yasuka Saito, who portrayed BoukenBlack in GoGo Sentai Boukenger, said: "The agency has a major responsibility to supervise scandals involving minors. How will a contract termination affect them?"
That's a complicated argument. In theory, both talents and agencies have to work together in order to minimize the impact of scandals, but there has been a lot of recent criticism with the, completely valid, argument that in practice that means lack of accountability, so if that means a shift into agencies dropping talents the second they become liabilities, then that's bad for the talents.
On the other hand, Imamori is both a rookie talent on her first major role and a woman, so is easy to make an example of her. The complete opposite of veteran male talents that agencies fought hard to defend until it was unfeasable to do so.
A couple more things that are worth noting I think:
Imamori Maya is half Filipino, and much of the vitriol that's been directed at her since her casting, and more recently/intensely since the tabloid "reporting" has had an explicitly racist bent as a result
Toei have have had a noted habit of casting teenage girls in roles that could easily have been played by adult women. It's arguably an industry standard thing and they cast male characters young too, but when you have recent examples like Beroba Geats, Lizel Gavv and Nem Zeztz who are all written as adults/young adults but played by schoolgirls, you start to wonder at the logic. Sumino herself makes no sense as a character if she's 19 as the actress is. If they really cared so much about the problems of their cast potentially drinking underage, then I would perhaps suggest that the simple fix would be to stop casting people below the age of majority, especially when the role itself doesn't call for it.
In any case, at the end of the day I hope Imamori is safe and has people who care about her to support her through this. She deserved absolutely none of this shite.
For context, it has been a problem longer than that, 2013 had KyoryuPink, supposedly a college student, but also very obviously a 16 year old actress. She did great and all and the series was a success, but even then people asked "Why?".
Even before that, Kamen Rider OOO had the human forms of the main bad guys, the Greeed, all played by their voice actors except for the only woman on the team, Mezool, whose human form is instead played by a teenage idol instead of an older woman who she's clearly supposed to be like.
Mezool is a different case in that narratively, she, a grown shapeshifting monster, chose to take the form of a young girl to lure in victims easier, rather than her being a child who's concept is "she's really 12 but playing a canonical 20 year old for some reason". Still weird in the 1000 year old dragon kind of way, but still different.
A better example from the same show is Hina, who is a university student, but her actress was 15 at the time.
I wonder how right-wing nerds who talk about cancel culture in the west feel about Japanese and Korean women losing all their career opportunities for:
Like most stuff they really only care about cancel culture when its happening to people they like they could care less when its people they don't like....I don't remember how right wing people felt with James Gunn being fired, but I do remember the 180 with that lady from Mandolorian.
I wouldn't be surprised if they think that the way Japan does is fine because it prevents women from doing anything to ruin themselves like western female celebs do.
It's a feature for them because they want a society wherein women can be disproportionately punished for doing anything to displease a society run by men.
They'll praise it because they don't actually want women to have job opportunities
Two weeks ago, a game called Misery came out. According to its now delisted steam page, it's "a 1–5 player co-op survival game set in a nuclear disaster zone."
The reason it lost its steam page is because the game was DMCA'd from steam by the Stalker 2 devs (who made a very familiar game, also set in a nuclear disaster zone). The misery creator posted an announcement blaming the devs, asserting he did nothing wrong, and calling on the community to save his game.
It's worth noting that the misery creator is "a 19-year-old solo developer, Maewing, with support from a group of friends.", according to Misery's own steam faq.
So...the odds are that in order to make such an ambitious game, the 19-year-old likely used some copyrighted material from Stalker 2. It's either that or the Stalker 2 developers misfired with the copyright strike. (There are apparently a bunch of other "stalker-like" games on steam, and people are confused why Misery was copyright striked and not those ones). It's also worth noting that the Stalker 2 developers are from Ukraine, and made the game when the country was being invaded by Russia.
Dollars to donuts there's gonna be a story about stolen code or assets, especially since I'm reading the STALKER 2 test builds were leaked. None of this makes much sense otherwise, from the 19 year old solo developer (lol) to the fact that there are a ton of inspired games that haven't been struck by copyright claims.
Worth noting, that is, because the developer of Misery is Russian, and it turns out that Misery's Discord server was full of pro-invasion posting and anti-Ukrainian racism. At least one of the S.T.A.L.K.E.R. developers died in the invasion.
Pretty close to an iconic Stalker motif in a few places
I was vaguely aware of it and assumed it was related to one of the most famous Stalker mods of the same name, I guess not.
Okay that first one is really blatant so yeah I'm leaning toward "There might genuinely be some plagirism going on here, wait and see what GSC says"
Honest question, why is that worth noting, exactly? I don't see how the preceding text relates to it.
I'm assuming that people might think that the take down is only because the Devs of Misery are Russian...though id more believe that it was just they took an asset or used some code from the game iirc test builds of Stalker 2 were leaked so its not that out there.
Seems like a reasonably hinged person.
Oh so they definitely did something more than what they're saying.
I don't think Stalker 2 has the exclusive rights to a game set in a zone ruined by nuclear radiation so I'm hoping more info comes out justifying the claim or this will be a bit shit from them
If the Stalker 2 devs had dmca'd a bunch of other games/mods, it'd 100% be an abuse of the copyright system. But if it's just this one game then I'm leaning towards some sort of copyrighted asset or code being used.
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so theres a bit of a scuffle happening in Honkai Star Rail, particularly leaks regarding the upcoming character coming to 3.8, the Dahlia (or Constance). spoilered ahead because leaks and slight trigger warning:
apparently someone shared that the chinese community is outraged about the Dahlia, particularly how she may have some parallels and similarities with the real Black Dahlia case and the murder of Elizabeth Short. some things people pointed out was how they share the same name, her ult animation has her seem like she is upside down like how the the victim was hung upside down to her death, and the smile she does is similar to the victim's glasgow smile when she died. Since this info had been spread around twitter, theres been a growing number of people petitioning them to either change her name and design, or just straight up remove the sexy and lewd appeal of Constance. But theres also been a number of people saying how much of a super stretch the similarities are, particularly the "upside down" look and the smile since its obviously supposed to be a "yandere" smile. also, one quick google search shows that Elizabeth Short wasnt even hung upside down but instead was mutilated and her body parts were left in a vacant lot. the whole outrage confuses the hell out of me because you have these people quickly falling for misinformation and pushing their agenda to cancel Dahlia's release due to how overtly lewd and sexy she is, which people have criticized.
overall, just very weird drama which im 99% sure hoyoverse will do nothing about it
Yeah I'm not really one to defend or even really play Gachas but like, almost everything about this feels more like a Lady Dimitrescu/Yandere reference than an Elizabeth Short one. Tall lady in a white dress, wide brimmed hat, and giant claws on one hand, with a motif of black flowers? Likewise, the pose she does is more evocative of that one Yandere slasher smile than a Glasgow smile, especially with the hands.
That being said, however, I think the most interesting link I've found looking into this is that the lead actress of the Blue Dahlia, which the murder case was named after, is named Constance Ockelman, and only used Veronica Lake as her stage name. It might be a coincidence, but that's a helluva coincidence.
From what I gather as an outsider looking into this drama, it's not a coincidence but the connection isn't necessarily what people are assuming. Apparently the location the character is associated with, Penacony, is referential to a lot of detective fiction, including the works of Raymond Chandler. Chandler also happens to have been both the screenwriter and the director for the Blue Dahlia, so it may be that they're just trying to reference the movie itself rather than the murder.
Yeah, that seems to make the most sense, IMO
Yeah, I agree.
A trigger warning doesn't help unless you specify what it's for.
For real! Like... if you're triggered by something you're just never supposed to look at a single thing that has a trigger warning just in case because of this shit.
Also I guess the trigger warning was that a character in a game where people die... died?
ohhhh that explains why some cosplayers I follow on xhs were making vague “I am taking down all mihoyo related photos” statements… yeesh
CN fandom wars are nuts, people go to jail on a disturbingly frequent basis for leaking, harassing and defaming rival gacha game companies. It's hard to know whats real and whats people trying to stir shit.
Remember this every time some American dork pretending to be Filipino on Twitter drones on about how "Asian fans don't care about THE DRAMA™". They either don't know how bad it can get, or know and omit it to win online arguments.
In general, I tend not to trust any outrage over these games anymore. Because of how big they've gotten and how many haters they've amassed because of it (of the games themselves, of male/female characters specifically, of particular design choices, etc.), these almost always end up being people who were already predisposed to hate these characters looking for any excuse to justify it. That's why there's constant controversies over these games, and yet they're still doing fine regardless.
I especially don't trust sources on the NA side talking about what the CN side is supposedly outraged over. It's usually people who want to manufacture outrage over here by cherrypicking comments to make it seem like a big deal over there. I also wouldn't discount the possibility that it's just Chinese players trolling people so they can have a laugh at how easy Americans are to manipulate.
As for the issue itself, I can understand why some people would find it distasteful or wouldn't be comfortable with it, but people need to learn that you can only control yourself. You can make arguments for why X is bad or why Y shouldn't be a thing, but as long as those things fall within the boundaries of the law, people have the right to ignore you. Basically, if this bothers you, you really should just disengage from it, whether that means avoiding the character, quitting the game, or whatever. But if you're going to try to pressure this company or think you'll be able to convince the majority of the playerbase to see things the way you do, I've got some bad news for you.
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Anyone working on weekend hobby projects?
Currently planning on going to the hardware store and/or gardening center to grab a planter tub for my carnivorous plant bog. I am committing to an oops all sarracenia bog, wish me luck! Aiming to get a good variety of species to make it have a good amount of growth from beginning to end of the season.
I’ve also been working on finalizing an Etsy listing for my bird foot paw pattern. Soooo many birds furries asked me for it so I’ve been tinkering away at cleaning it up and posting it with some instructions after my bird hand pattern did well. It differs from the rest of the patterns I see being all canine and a couple hoof patterns.
I’m a bit picky with my fursuit pattern shapes so it’s been a slow process of me making my own patterns and then having people beg me to make them some when I just don’t have the time cause of ~normal full time job~ so now I can just throw the pattern at them lmao.
In other news, would Etsy be unhappy if I made and sold patterns for plush genitalia..? Cause I do have a couple… I know they said no sex toys as of last year, but what about plush stuff?
I probably should get around to repotting my cactus and succulents. But it's supposed to snow. They're all indoor plants but idk if they'd be mad if I repotted them now. The cactus is too tall for his pot so he really needs to be moved.
I should be working on my 12 Days of Christmas ornaments but it's so hard. Some of the pieces are so tiny!
I went to a doll show last weekend and realized i should have brought my bjd doll since it was not weird to bring a doll for socializing and clothes fitting. It was actually still fun and i connected with the nearest bjd group and got a doll trunk for clothes storage.
Made mom a pair of shorts for summer, and finished adding pockets to it. (if it ever comes, like, seriously, it's november but temps are still randomly dropping to 15°, where is my sun, spring?)
It's finally cool enough outside to bake! I picked up a bread loaf mold in the shape of a cat head when I was in Japan last month, so I'm going to use my go-to milk bread recipe with it and hope it works. I'm also going to run test batches of melon pan (requested by my sister for our Thanksgiving spread) and cinnamon roll apple pie (I REALLY want to win a pie-baking contest we're having at work).
I'm working with some FIMO to make a model for my Pathfinder game in two weeks! (We usually meet every 2 weeks, but I had to skip last time because of Tooth Removal.)
a game i enjoy is having one of those fandom fan shipping 'weeks', with this particular event being centered around femslash pairings. i got back into writing in december of last year, so i figured this would be a good chance to test my writing skills in producing something under a tight deadline. and also give myself an excuse to write more lesbians ofc.
i've had 2 weeks to work on 2 fics. one is in its 'first final draft' stage and just needs polish, the other one ended up being a total panster/im writing it as i go. guess which one is supposed to be posted this coming monday :")
for your etsy question: ive seen people selling crotchet packers and crotchet packer patterns, so you might be able to get away with it? neither a plush nor a soft packer can be used as a sex toy, so it seems fine to me at least.
It's picklin' season so I've been making various jars for the friends who've asked for them. Last weekend I did all the pickled onions, this weekend it's piccalilli/mustard pickle and pickled chilis. I find it kinda soothing and therapeutic to do with a podcast or music on, although it does make the house pretty eye-watering for a day or two.
It is a miserable day (overcast, cold and foggy, rather than just the usual miserableness) in North Rhine Westphalia today, so I am cross-stitching bird bookmarks. My mum knows how much I miss NZ bird life, so she keeps sending me these kits for my birthday & xmas, and I have quite a backlog to get through.
BBC's Sherlock came up in a discord chat recently, basically for the purpose of dunking on it it as the worst TV show to ever air, and aside from the fact it's been 8 years, let it go Indiana, etc etc, it's interesting how much the pendulum has swung on it, arguably overcompensating, to the point where there were comments of being "embarrassed to have ever liked it", which is interesting when the early series were both critically successful and popular with audiences. I do get why it's in that position - the shaky last couple of series, infamous "Secret Fourth Good Episode!!!!", backlash against the "cringe" SuperWhoLock era of the internet and the (not exactly great imo) HBomberGuy video essay have pushed both the show and its fandom into a laughing stock, but idk, it still makes me feel a certain way when people act like a piece of media ended bad, therefore everything about it must be bad, and that everyone had to have been either stupid or crushing on the lead to like it. I'm not even sure why I'm dwelling on this, I was one of those who never watched the fourth series because I peaced out after the bizarre Christmas special, it's not as if I'm a die-hard Apple Tree Yard believer, maybe it's just that it feels like part of a wider internet trend, where there is only "Best thing ever" and "Punching bad", where any of the reasons why people fell for it in the first place -- the chemistry of the leads, the lavish production, the character drama arising from the "mysteries" - don't matter because in the end, it was bad, and it will only be remembered for being bad,. Or maybe I'm just bored and alone on a Friday night.
This ended up being more of a "Hobby Musing" / "Hobby Venting" than any drama, so I believe it's customary to tack on a question. I could ask about something relevant, but I don't want to, so here goes - What's your favourite lesser-known TV show theme song? I submit "Why Aye Man", from the 2000's reboot of sitcom Auf Wiedersehn Pet, as sang by Mark Knopfler.
I'm probably late to this but there was an obscure cartoon show I remember liking when I was a kid called Gawayn that had a banger theme song
I think we're also witnessing Millennials growing up and realising that things we hyped up so hard perhaps weren't that good at all. I enjoyed the first two seasons of Sherlock back then (didn't watch the rest), but I also wasn't familiar with the book canon. It was just a fun show to me, and I think a lot of us were hoping for a canon gay relationship, because the world felt ready for it.
I fell down the canon rabbit hole a few years ago thanks to the Frogwares videogames. Yeah, the BBC version isn't good at all and I am so thankful we're done hyping up rude characters like Cumberbatch's Sherlock was (or even Hbomb's old dunkin' style). Now here's a funny thing: while the tides have turned on the show for sure, there's still a pretty big fandom behind it. Hell, the Frogwares writers cite it as their inspiration and you can see references and ideas echoed in their newest games. The fandom is very much alive on Tumblr, too. But yeah, there's definitely a phenomenon where people turn on something they enjoyed and it somehow becomes embarrassing to admit you ever liked it at all.
I wanted to tell you my favourite obscure show tune, but I realised I no longer remember what the show or the song are called. Yikes. So let's go with Inner Universe by Origa from Ghost in the Shell Stand Alone Complex.
Dangerholic, the theme for the live-action adaptation of Trillion Game, is probably my favorite track out of that franchise. Nothing against the anime adaptation's opening, of course, it just doesn't capture the reckless, over-the-top "what if Joseph Joestar was alive today and aspired to have more money than God?" spirit of the manga and its main character quite as well.
I also like Metallic Rouge's opening and ending, can't remember ever skipping them when I was watching that. Helps that it has my favorite insert song in any anime outside of Symphogear.
Phineas and Ferb is well known but the full version of the theme song does not get the love it deserves. Bowling For Soup knocked it out of the park with that.
I'm genuinely fond of the theme of the original Heartbreak High.
Amphibia’s, because of how peppy it is, and for the opposite reason, The 100’s. Especially when combined with visuals, it sells that this is a bleak yet epic show.
My man! I love to whistle that song when I am working solo. It is so infectious.
My Dad loved Why Aye Man, he made child-me download it from Napster for him.
My pic for favourite lesser-known TV show theme song is the intro to Sky TV's Prickly Heat:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAMZ11ntopg
The Poirot theme song! Even just thinking about it makes me begin to hum it (poorly).
Your Sherlock discourse is what's happening to Harry Potter. Author bad so clearly There Was Never a Single Good Thing About the Series Ever And You Are Morally Superior If You Never Liked It is the discourse, and like, guys, get a grip. Wow you were a hipster when you were 8 and so you don't have to be sad that a book series you liked was written by a bad person as far as you know, congrats. Talk about something else now, you losers.
You actually don't have to ask a question on hobby scuffles comments, people just do.
To answer your question, I was gonna say the Wonderfalls theme song but I realized I was singing the WonderBall jingle in my head.
The Mr. Belvedere theme song is pretty dope, I love it. The show is meh but the theme song is fun. Also Hey Arnold isn't exactly lesser-known but I love that the whole show went with jazz music.
There's been a sizeable contingent shitting on Harry Potter since it first blew up. People were copying and pasting the Harold Bloom rant long before Rowling became a TERF. I suspect it's more of a shift in power towards that group than an "oh my God, I hate it now" thing. (although the latter certainly happens)
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The one which really gets me is the "Rowling gave a Chinese girl a name that's made from two surnames!!" thing. No. She did not. Cho Chang (or Zhuo Zhang in pinyin - but Cho Chang was a British early millennial, so she would not have used Pinyin) is a perfectly normal name. Almost aggressively so. It's the equivalent of being called Sophie Smith.
There's this one Tumblr post which spread the misconception. And even in that Tumblr post the poster acknowledges they don't know about Chinese and are talking based on their knowledge of Korean (??).
I know, I have been around the sub long enough, but I am enjoying seeing the answers nonetheless!
I have a real soft-spot for the theme to "American Dragon: Jake Long"
Also, this is exactly the opposite of lesser-known but for as much as The Big Bang Theory gets dunked on, that theme song is an absolute bop.
Also, there's like a million anime answers here where I don't actually remember the name of the show itself lol
Season 1 or Season 2? I’m partial to the latter because it’s just that much edgier.
I kind of feel like some of discussion about Star Wars: The Mandalorian kind become this given it had 2 strong first seasons and then a poor s3. I have seen comments going back an essentially making out the whole show was garbage from the get go, not helped by the discourse around Andor and the tendency to compare it to every other piece of star wars media to essentially proclaim it is only thing remotely watchable.
I can sympathise with the backlash of when something gets a shitty or poorly executed fanale and how it can feel like all that time and investment into the story basically got little payoff, however i roll my eyes when people start throwing their toys of of the pram and promoting this extreme black and white "its either a masterpiece or dog shit" retorhric.
I think with The Mandalorian, what you have is this situation where you're still allowed to say you like it, but only if you specify that you only like the first two seasons. That's my experience anyway; you can avoid censure if you make the appropriate caveats.
I'm not sure what a good comparison would be (i.e. you can't say, "I like [Show A]," but you can say, "I like [Seasons B and C of Show A but NOT season D, in accordance with what the consensus has declared acceptable]") because I don't actually watch a whole lot of television.
I feel like an idiot for asking this, but what is the drop in quality talk about for Mando S3? I loved it like I loved the other two seasons and it didn’t feel that different to me. Although admittedly, I am also the Dave Filoni target audience who grew up with Clone Wars and watches and enjoys all of his shows.
Personally, and I must note I'm not exactly the average Star Wars fans (though I'm also the Filoni target audience), I felt like the show robbed Mandalore and Mandalorians of a lot of the complexity that was implied in previous works and even season 2 of the show, in favour of Bo Katan hanging out with one specific faction, doing a bunch of sidequests with Mando, and then taking back the planet in like, two very short episodes. It also dropped a bunch of previous plot points, like the fact that it was stated Din couldn't just give Bo the darksaber, his separation from Grogu (which should have been solved during season 3, not as part of another character's show), and what looked like him slowly moving from his faction's fanaticism.
Mind you, I'm a Bo Katan fan and I liked the filler episodes, as I like Star Wars filler in general, I just think the season was less than the sum of its parts. Clone Wars and Rebels were far more effective at complex storytelling with a lot more narrative constraints imo
Most of the complaints from what i can gather is that some feel Bo Katan basically sidelines Din and Grogu as it becomes about her reclaiming Mandalore, that and the episode with Doctor Pershing being an entire serial that essentially a side story ( i still actually enjoyed it).
Then theres the while episode with cameos from Jack Black, Lizzo, Christopher Loydd and bunch of others.
Is that it? No wonder I wasn’t bothered then. I already liked Bo Katan and enjoyed her becoming a co-lead. The cameo episode was actually probably my favorite of the season because I liked the campy/funny vibe of that planet and enjoyed seeing the show go into a detective fiction direction for a bit.
I don't think it's this simple; part of it, I feel, has to do with more meta problems around Star Wars in general. With the Mando, it felt like the primary arc of the first two seasons (Mando returning Grogu to his people while keeping him safe) was overturned between seasons in what feels a bit of a cynical move on Disney's part to keep selling baby Yoda merch. Between seasons 2 and 3, there were also several shows that weren't well received (Boba Fett and Obi Wan) and one that was (Andor, which wasn't watched by a whole lot compared to these other shows). All of which contributes to a sense that Disney is just throwing crap at the wall and milking Star Wars however and whenever they can. I suppose what I'm saying is that there's a feeling that Disney doesn't care, so why should you care about it (if that makes sense).
I get that (I’m also not huge on Book of Boba Fett). I understand why people are cynical about Disney Star Wars even though I disagree with it (throwing crap at the wall and milking the brand for all its worth has been part of Star Wars since the Holiday Special so I don’t see Disney’s efforts as being that different).
It is a shame though how meta/behind the scenes aspect of a work can ruin the experience for some folk. As a personal example, knowing the inside baseball about why Madeline Pryor was created as a character in the 80’s X-Men comics has completely ruined my ability to emotionally invest in her as a character at all.
While I agree that it's not as if Star Wars has never been milked before, I think in general spin offs like Holiday Special or the two Ewok television films, there has been a sense that these things didn't really matter. There's a principle with a lot of spin-off canon (not just in Star Wars, but across many IPs) that the spin-offs of this nature don't really matter. In contrast, these Disney+ shows are explicitly supposed to matter/be canon/important for what follows, and it's unfortunate that so much of it just isn't very good.
Andor is a funny show because it is as great as everyone says it is, and then 90% of its audience are people who grew out of Star Wars but can't stop fucking arguing about how dead or evil the franchise as a whole is. I watched the entire Sequel Trilogy in theaters, day one, and even that didn't alienate me as much as the "reclaiming" of Andor.
Those bastards can pry The Last Jedi from my cold, carbon-frozen hands, though.
I enjoyed Andor (but I liked Skeleton Crew a lot more) but I can't deny, all the "literally everything else in Star Wars up to and including the original trilogy has merit solely because it enabled Andor to exist" or "the previous 45 years or Star Wars were basically prelude to Andor" or "I legitimately hate A New Hope because Luke and Han stole the credit for all the hard work the characters in Andor did" hyperbole you see repeated on the internet, even in jest, kinda makes me resent the show sometimes.
There just comes a point where it feels like people don't actually like Andor, they just want to be in on a meme.
Does that make Andor the Morbius of Star Wars?
As an aside, I look back more fondly on the Obi-Wan show—it's not Absolute Television, but I watched it alongside a very close friend who's a massive Obi-Wan fan, so I had a good time.
No, I was admittedly being a bit belligerent saying that. If I was being just a tiny bit fairer, I'd say that I can't help but find it slightly suspicious whenever I come across someone who seems unable to praise Andor without crapping on some other Star Wars show. Maybe it's just the way I engage with all this stuff (that is, how much I enjoy or don't enjoy one Star Wars show has nothing whatsoever ever to do with how much I enjoyed or didn't enjoy another Star Wars show) but it just feels kinda dishonest to me.
Still, I've been a Star Wars fan for most of my life. I've been a Star Wars fan on the internet for the best part of 25 years at this point. It makes it hard for me to be objective. Maybe I've just gotten so used to the Star Wars fandom proving themselves incapable, time and time again, of just being normal about disliking Star Wars when they think it's bad that realising they're equally incapable of being normal about liking it when they think it's good that it took me by surprise when it happened.
I'm pretty dyed-in-the-wool as a Star Wars fan. I don't love them all (or at least not all of them equally) but I still find things to like about all of them. I liked The Acolyte just fine and it provoked way more sturm and drang than it was probably worth.
Definitely the Cybersix main theme. Apparently, there's an unreleased three minute version of the song that will probably never see the light of day, although I'd love to hear it.
Submitting my two theme songs that I LOVED as a kid!
Pirate Master
Wolfblood
My sister loved Wolfblood as a kid, and yeah, the theme was very goo!. Later series swapped it out for AURORAs "Running with the Wolves", which is also pretty neat.
I think I only watched up until Maddie left, so I didn't know they had a new theme!
On the subject of theme songs, I've always been rather partial to the one to The Future is Wild. The original documentary-ish one, not the kids' show with actual characters and such. The thing that I find kinda funny is just how much the main motif feels like the main motif of the Art Ensemble of Chicago's Odwalla to me. Similar shapes and a similar sequence of repeats, I guess.
Whatever, it's not the weirdest set of things my brain has decided are adjacent to each other.
I will always take an opportunity to let more people know about Jack of All Trades.
I’m always a little exasperated by the extremes of the “pendulum swinging” some works get- I think I’ve complained about the Star Wars prequels here before (generally I’m keen on them, but they were traditionally seen as the Worst Thing EverTM, and, while it’s not as noticeable now, there was a period when, at least on Reddit, you’d get pushback in many spaces for implying they were anything but perfect masterpieces), but I’ve noticed it happening lately with a lot. Doctor Who is particularly on the mind as you mentioned HBomberguy- he did a video on it around the same time as the Sherlock one, and his opinions were a pretty common during the Steven Moffat era, but it’s liked a lot more nowadays as I’ve found. Funnily enough, imo part of the hatred was because Moffat was absolutely adored before that by the fanbase (Russell T Davies was the showrunner, but Moffat wrote a story per season, and they were considered some of the best episodes of the show). There’s a related concept here of “Franchise Original Sin,” as TvTropes calls it, where the things people dislike about a work or author are present in earlier, more-positively-received media, but aren’t taken as badly by the audience.
(As an aside, I’ve seen people doing something similar with the current era of Doctor Who in regard to the following Chibnall era. Unfortunately, the examples I’ve seen are generally “it was less wokeTM,” in spite of the fact that “”wokeness””was one of things people hated about that period. That is also something that happens a fair bit- pre-Chibnall reboot Who arguably had much more “woke” themes, but because it was on a few years/decades ago, it doesn’t get noticed -just saying, if Aliens came out today unchanged, the Culture War crowd would be screaming about it for years.
Sherlock is a bit different compared to the other two, as it wasn’t a follow-up to, nor succeeded by, another similar work (there are many other Holmes adaptations, but there hasn’t been anything like a “Sherlock 2”), but still. It’s of interest to me in particular because I was quite partial to it when I was young (my high-school gf was massively into it when we were teenagers, so that rubbed off on me at the time), but I also got converted by that old HBomb video, and wasn’t as keen on it after a rewatch. I do like making jokes at its expense, between the Apple Tree Yard thing and some of the show’s less-proud moments, but at the same time I acknowledge it’s not nearly as bad as some act (and I include myself in that group).
I think part of this may also just be the odd thing with internet media reactions where something has to be one of the greatest tragedies inflicted upon the human race if it’s not liked. It’s always confused me a bit- I can personally still really enjoy media that isn’t the apex of quality, or even isn’t all that good- not just in a “so bad, it’s good”/ironic way, but genuinely like watching/reading/playing things that are meh at best if you think about them- hell, Ghost Recon: Breakpoint is still one of my favourite games. So, for example, all of the DiscourseTM about the new(ish) Lord of the Rings series seems to treat watching the show as being roughly on par with being flayed alive
and yet, the people who act like that have often seen it all the way through, sometimes more than once, but in my opinion it was just… mid, I guess. Even then, it has its virtues (I’ve only seen S1, but theOrcsUruk were great).As yet another tangent, I’d be curious to see Hbomberguy’s thoughts on the show now. He made his video a good while ago (8 years), and from what I gather he seems to have matured a fair bit since those days (maybe projecting a bit here, as I’m similar in age and share a lot of interests, and I was insufferable back in 2017), and I imagine would be less vitriolic about it now (unless it’s for a bit).
Sorry, that ended up being a massively over-complicated ramble (I am also bored, albeit on a Saturday Afternoon), but hope some find it interesting!
To answer the actual question, if we’re counting orchestral openings, I’m really partial to the opening/main theme from the early 2000s documentary Walking with Beasts, which I think is fairly obscure compared to its predecessor/prequel, unless you’re into prehistory etc. I particularly like how they start off with just the music, start including wordless vocals when they show the first hominids in the opening sequence, and actual words(ish?) later. This is actually a really cool thing the entire show does with its soundtrack- there aren’t any vocal elements for the first three episodes, and then the fourth, which focuses on Australopithecus afarensis (a very early hominid- other primates appear earlier, but not anything similar to us), starts incorporating noises made by humans. However, they’re fairly simple. Then, when the last episode comes around, we get to the point in history where humans have appeared (the episode between them is set 1.5mya, so after the earliest humans have evolved, but before language really existed, and there aren’t any humans in that episode) and can speak, so they start incorporating chanting and actual words into the soundtrack. It’s an incredibly neat detail someone pointed out to me a while ago, and it’s something I think even most people who watched it didn’t pick up on.
I think it could be due to a lot of things
One could possibly be because of the sequels people know that making a big enough fuss about something companies might listen and saying something is the "worst thing ever" makes a big enough stink than just saying you didn't simply like something.
Another thing could just be wanting to make their voice heard as for the same reasons saying you don't like something epically when your opinion seems to be in the minority...though in that case I think it would be better to do something else than spend that much of your time but its the internet.
One offshoot of that is the fandom menace who only call that for all of the above as well as imo to hide their actual (racist,sexist etc) opinions.
You could put two Doctor Who fans in a room, watch them agree that the show is terrible nowadays of course, then within five minutes they would be killing each other because they cannot agree when it stopped being good. Somehow, one of them would still be holding a blood-curse on John Nathan-Turner.
I've at least once seen someone hold a grudge against Robert Holmes about the changes to the Time Lords he made in the Deadly Assassin.