Lmao no he was not. In the early 70's there were vast gas shortages in western countries because the shah standardized oil and extractions quotas within the middle east. Watch any sort of interview with him. There is one where the reported asks him why he raised oil prices and he turns around and says why did the US raise wheat prices last year?
He was far from a puppet leader. He was a patriot in fact.
Fuck this post and the misinformation surrounding mossadegh. He was no democratically elected. Ever.
He was originally appointed as PM after Ramzara (the previous PM) was assassinated by a member of the islamic brotherhood. Mossadegh then pardoned that assassin after he was appointed the PM.
In 1952 when he went for re-election he forced an election to end early to achieve winning results, the shah stepped in (under his rights as shah) and appointed another PM, so mossadegh caused national demonstrations and on the 4th day of demostrations the islamic brotherhood called for a holy war on Qavam (the PM who was appointed by the Shah).
So the shah was forced to appoint Mossadegh again because of unrest in the country.
In 1953 he disolved parliment in order to force a coup of the government which for some reason has been turned around on the Shah. The coup was being orchestrated by mossadegh, not the shah.
He caused the shah to step in 3 times because he was breaking the democratic process and for some reason mfs like to see him as some sort of beacon of light.
He was originally appointed as PM after Ramzara (the previous PM) was assassinated by a member of the islamic brotherhood. Mossadegh then pardoned that assassin after he was appointed the PM.
The Majlis passed a law declaring Tahmasebi’s act “patriotic” because Razmara opposed oil nationalization. Mossadegh signed it as required, but he was not allied with the Islamic brotherhood. They initially supported oil nationalization, which aligned with Mossadegh’s agenda, but they turned against him because he refused to implement strict Islamic law or appoint their members to positions of power.
In 1952 when he went for re-election he forced an election to end early to achieve winning results,
The voting began in January and the new parliament was convened in April.
So the shah was forced to appoint Mossadegh again because of unrest in the country.
The Shah did not know what to even do to handle the situation. He even inquired to mossadegh if should step down. Mossadegh let him continue to rule.
Please shut the fuck up Shahist, probably paid by an agent in tel aviv
You didn't say anything which opposes what I was saying. You just stated random other facts. The fact is that mossadegh did not respect the democratic process and went against it multiple times.
I'm an Iranian who had to flee Iran to Canada because of my faith and I'm not going to let some rando online tell me about the history of my country and what's happened to my family.
If I, a foreigner is more versed in Iranian political history than an Iranian. Then you should be ashamed because your ignorance is showing.
I'm an Iranian who had to flee Iran to Canada because of my faith
I don't support Islamic fundamentalism that provides absolutely no benefit to their people and instead shoots them on a daily basis whenever a protest occurs. This goes in hand with the Monarchy.
mossadegh did not respect the democratic process
The democratic process at the time was a vote by Parliament, he won both times fairly and he went through the process. If you referring to his pivot towards centralized control, this is because the same parliament that he was elected by started to undermine his powers as Prime Minister and prevented him from passing social reforms in large scale. This is also because undoubtedly his opposition was bribed by foreign nations in order to overthrow him (this includes Monarchists and Islamist fundamentalists) who both went against him because either not letting the Shah have absolute control (he did not know what to do and even BEGGED Mossadegh to give him advice whether he should abdicate and end the dynasty) Mossadegh let him to continue to rule.Islamic fundamentalists did not favor him either becausehe did not implement strict islamic rule and were the main leaders of opposition against him.
My original post disproved everything in your meme and you responded with nonsense sidefacts about every single one. Savak in their peak, executed around 3000 people, that number comes from the founder of the IRGC Mohsen Sazegara. Those 3000 people included people like Khamenei and Hashemi who believed they need to create a modern day caliphate through violence (which they did create via IRGC).
The shah did not kill his own people. His special forces executed murderers.
What reforms? He was only PM for barely 2 years. The source is right in any place you want to read about him. He famously claimed to have won an election by 99.93 percent. His ideals of forcing nationalization if oil would have fucked Iran's industrialization. Iran did not have the technical expertise to nationalize oil. They literally did so in the 60's and formed OPEC to standardize oil prices. He is nothing more than a Chad guevera that would have ruined the progress of Iran before 79.
Yes. He in fact did do a lot better. If you look at any measurement for a countries growth, whether it's literacy, industrialization, buying power, education of women, nationalization of oil, regional power or military. They all did extremely well under the shah.
Also, way to sidestep every single point I made. You are nothing but false information.
Despite the overall increase in literacy for women, formal education was still limited. Regional disparities show that education was not evenly distributed among the rural and urban people. The chart below shows the literacy rates based on both gender, and geographic location by year.
Its strategy was to funnel oil wealth to the court-connected elite who would then set up factories, companies, and agrobusinesses. In theory, wealth would trickle down. But in practice, in Iran, as has been the case in many other countries, wealth tended to stick at the top, with less and less finding its way down the social ladder. Wealth, like ice in hot weather, melted in the process of being passed from hand to hand. The result was not surprising. In the 1950s, Iran had one of the most unequal incomes
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Distributions in the Third World. By the 1970s, it had - according to the International Labor Office -one of the very worst in the whole world.Although we have no hard data on actual income distribution, the Central Bank carried out surveys on household urban expenditures in 1959-60 and 1973-74 - a methodology that would inevitably underestimate real inequality. The 1959-60 survey showed that the richest 10 percent accounted for 35.2 percent of total expenditures; the poorest 10 percent only 1.7 percent of expenditures. The figures were worse in 1973-74. They showed that the richest 10 percent accounted for 37.9 percent; and the poorest 10 percent 1.3 percent of total expenditures.A leaked document from the Plan and Budget Organization showed that the income share of the richest 20 percent of the urban population had grown from 57 to 63 percent in the period between 1973 and 1975 It also showed that the gap between urban and rural consumption had dramatically widened.
Mossadegh’s mom was a member of the previous royal family, the Qajars.
Mossadegh was not “democratically elected” to be prime minister ministers he was appointed after an assassination and resignation. His ability to hold public office was restored after the previous Shah was forced out.
He did nationalize the oil reserves, which the Shah supported. That lead to a British blockade and economic collapse that I would argue was a bigger factor than the CIA. The Shah’s father had also forced the British to renegotiate in 1933. Then in 1973 the Shah nationalized the oil again announcing he wouldn’t extend any foreign contracts.
Saying the CIA and MI6 overthrew him gives them way too much credit considering Kermit Roosevelt didn’t even speak Farsi and his attempt failed. He was literally ordered to leave while Mossadegh was still in power.
I don’t think his quotes were good, they were largely nonsensical:
And Mr. Harriman in exasperation said, “Dr. Mossadegh, if we’re going to talk about these things seriously, we must have agreement about certain fundamental principles.”
And Mossadegh said, “Such as what?”
And Mr. Harriman said: “Such as nothing can be larger than the sum of its parts. We can’t give you more per barrel than oil is selling for, and they’ll buy it in Kuwait or Saudi Arabia.”
Mossadegh said, “That’s false.”
Mr. Harriman said, “False?” Did he say false?” I said, “Yes, he said false.” [Laughter]
He said, “Explain yourself.”
“Well,” said Mossadegh, “consider the fox. His tail is often much longer than he is.”
And that made a reasonable argument to him as to why you could get more than the sum of the thing. [Laughter]
The previous Shah before him was appointed by the British in the 1920s, he became Prime Minister of Iran through the constitutional, parliamentary process at the time. In which, paramilitary elected him with a majority vote. In 1952 another Iranian legislative election took place, he was appointed again Prime Minister. It was also discussed that in 1952, 18 of the candidates for PM were heavily supported by the CIA to undermine Mossadegh
"Yes, my sin — my greater sin and even my greatest sin is that I nationalized Iran's oil industry and discarded the system of political and economic exploitation by the world's greatest empire. This at the cost to myself, my family; and at the risk of losing my life, my honor and my property. With God's blessing and the will of the people, I fought this savage and dreadful system of international espionage and colonialism." I think this is pretty tuff.
Wait, so when the CIA, which isn‘t trustworthy according to you because they couped Mossadegh, says the elections are free and fair, we should suddenly believe them?
Mosaddegh at the end of term became deeply unpopular and ultimately had to cancel elections to stay in power. After he was removed by force (with single digit deaths) he spent the rest of his life in house arrest.
Regardless of his politics and resume, a “Chad” politician would have gotten people to fight for him (or at least have followers negotiate making him governor of an island). This guy didn’t have it.
He became "deeply unpopular" only after when he was overthrown by the CIA and MI6. Prior, to that he was popular. Much of his opposition and loyalist government took bribes from foreign countries to turn against him.
“My own party was bribed to turn against me by foreigners” even if that’s true your leader totally sucks at his job. Your version of events is that he had full support while in his home country and got beat by 3 CIA agents that can’t even speak the language.
Bro holy shit why does everybody and their mom have an opinion about MY country that you just HAVE to get off your chest? Bro our grandparents lived through his shit, we all know about him, every young Iranian guy has been through a phase of liking him, and then someone older than you tells you all the dumb shit he did and then you go "oh right yeah that sounds fucking stupid" and then you go on with your life.
I dont know what point these guys are trying to make when they say that Iran had foreign intervention. So? Every single other country on planet earth has had western intervention, do you want every Iranian to starve and die of thirst in 30 years while giving a middle finger to the US and Israel?
No matter how much it sucks, anti-imperialism and self-determination dont put food on the table and money in people's pockets.
His reforms and if he succeeded in the nationalization of the oil wouldve improved the lives of every Iranian during that era no doubt. Also, the influence in Iran was particularly strong.
yes, yes, it’s all the west’s fault. Mossadegh and every other wannabe dictator would have brought humanity into the Space Age already if not for the CIA.
Will we ignore the Islamist fundamentalists and Monarchists who were also bribed by the CIA and MI6 to oppose Mosaddegh?
The level of American narcissism is delusional. People can have their own politics and oppose Mosaddegh for their own reasons, the Middle East is not fully mind controlled by your one agency.
This is the expectation though, because his nations internal affairs were heavily influenced by foreign actors. Lets not be ignore these facts. Also the last comment I wrote is not the wrong. Thats literally what happend, the most fundamentalist religious leaders and intial supporters of his government were bribed in order to turn their support against him. Dont stop drinking the koolaid. Also, I could fairly say most of the Middle Eastern affairs were heavily impacted by three letter agencies.
Cope lil bro that hes better than your cuckhold of a leader who couldnt actually do anything to improve his country. Search up Black Friday 1978 to show all the accomplishments of the Shah (your right he was the best)
The Shah having a bad human rights record doesn't mean Mossadegh had a good one,two potential dictators commonly get into conflicts and that was the case in Iran,both Mossadegh and the Shah wanted a progressive nationalist dictatorship,just with them as dictators. Just as you shouldn#t lionize(pun fully intended) the Shah because Khomeini was worse,you shouldn't lionize Mossadegh because the Shah was bad
Mossadegh never intended to become a dictator, he only had to concentrate his powers temporarily because of bureaucratic obstruction were still loyal to the Shah or to foreign interests, meaning that Mossadegh couldn’t implement policies without facing roadblocks. He faced opposition within the Majlis (parliament), which blocked many of his reforms, especially fiscal and administrative changes. Shah Monarchists and Islamist Fundamentalist were both against him due to his social reforms.
He was not a “chad,” Mossadegh was a former Qajar aristocrat who was salty about the Qajars being overthrown in 1925. The Qajars were incompetent buffoons who took L after L and Iran didn’t experience any kind of improvement until after Reza Shah overthrow the Qajars.
From that alone, why should I have sympathy for this guy? Any dispute they had with the Pahlavi dynasty was nothing more than inter-royal infighting.
Unlike the other two mossadegh was actually elected by the majles. I've seen enough comments on reddit treating mossadegh as if he was in a western democracy. Iran wasn't a western democracy and the guy was doing whatever he could to keep himself in power like every other faction in the Iranian government. His actions make a lot more sense when you realise he wasn't liked by any of Iran's political elite due to his populism. And his economic reforms if implemented would have greatly increased the welfare of the common Iranian.
Was he a 'good' guy? Maybe, maybe not but blindly pointing out his undemocratic tendencies without context is disingenuous. Also sadly he's just become a sort of pawn in the current bout on reddit between monarchists and Islamists who both don't give a fuck about him or his socialism.
So many people downvoting you. Probably Shah stans. Also let's not forget the Monarchists and Islamists were against him (mostly because they took bribes from the CIA) and that they literally suspended his powers in while he was in office. So that's why he wanted to secure his own position.
I mean I don't explicitly defend Mossadegh's political horseringing either, I just think it's represented unfairly by Shahists on here, but I do genuinely believe Iran could do good with a social democrat government to distribute its oil wealth and not like the past and current governments which are both extremely corrupt and unaccountable to the people of Iran.
Ofc there's no room for nuanced discussion on Iran on reddit. Either you're a Shahist or a Mollah.
Bro lmao Mossadegh’s last act of power before being deposed was trying to billions of dollars in oil manufacturing equipment and contracts with oil companies, amounting to hundreds of billions of dollars in potential contingent on that equipment, and give it to his friends. He wanted to make Iran a petrostate like Russia today (or Venezuela).
He cancelled elections almost immediately after his lowball offer on renegotiation was refused.
Dude was as much of a chad as any failed dictator.
Nobody is perfect, but he was definitely the best out of the two. He did as much as he could in a period of Irans history where it was practically a British colony. He went through the process.
Not only that but putting all your money into a nuclear weapons development programme only to get humiliated by "infidels, Zionists and Westerners" and have it all blown to pieces without shooting down a single jet has to be up there.
Buddy, the Tudeh party, which was the most organized political opposition to him failed to even get one seat in parliament. While other parties managed to get 12 seats, his government managed to secure 79 seats. Now you could criticize him for stopping the voting because his reason was to stop opposition from taking seats from rural areas but compared to any other leader in modern Iranian history. He was the best choice. Do you simp for the Shah or Mullah? Who were also authorities if not more because they actually acted on it and killed their own people. Thats pretty crazy
The toudeh party was a joke of a party that wanted to follow the Soviets in extreme socialism. The shah had many socialist ideas passed. The white revolution was a socialist revolution. To say you wanted more socialism than the shah is actually quite extremist.
The white revolution was an utter failure due to its poor management. Mosaddegh actually implented social reforms that performed better. Also the Shah litterally shot his own people sooo.
Just a clarification, the White Revolution was the Shah’s reform programme, not the revolution against him.
Yeah, thanks for pointing that out. I wrote it weirdly
No worries
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The Shah was a puppet government lmao
Lmao no he was not. In the early 70's there were vast gas shortages in western countries because the shah standardized oil and extractions quotas within the middle east. Watch any sort of interview with him. There is one where the reported asks him why he raised oil prices and he turns around and says why did the US raise wheat prices last year?
He was far from a puppet leader. He was a patriot in fact.
Fuck this post and the misinformation surrounding mossadegh. He was no democratically elected. Ever.
He was originally appointed as PM after Ramzara (the previous PM) was assassinated by a member of the islamic brotherhood. Mossadegh then pardoned that assassin after he was appointed the PM.
In 1952 when he went for re-election he forced an election to end early to achieve winning results, the shah stepped in (under his rights as shah) and appointed another PM, so mossadegh caused national demonstrations and on the 4th day of demostrations the islamic brotherhood called for a holy war on Qavam (the PM who was appointed by the Shah).
So the shah was forced to appoint Mossadegh again because of unrest in the country.
In 1953 he disolved parliment in order to force a coup of the government which for some reason has been turned around on the Shah. The coup was being orchestrated by mossadegh, not the shah.
He caused the shah to step in 3 times because he was breaking the democratic process and for some reason mfs like to see him as some sort of beacon of light.
The Majlis passed a law declaring Tahmasebi’s act “patriotic” because Razmara opposed oil nationalization. Mossadegh signed it as required, but he was not allied with the Islamic brotherhood. They initially supported oil nationalization, which aligned with Mossadegh’s agenda, but they turned against him because he refused to implement strict Islamic law or appoint their members to positions of power.
The voting began in January and the new parliament was convened in April.
The Shah did not know what to even do to handle the situation. He even inquired to mossadegh if should step down. Mossadegh let him continue to rule.
Please shut the fuck up Shahist, probably paid by an agent in tel aviv
You didn't say anything which opposes what I was saying. You just stated random other facts. The fact is that mossadegh did not respect the democratic process and went against it multiple times.
I'm an Iranian who had to flee Iran to Canada because of my faith and I'm not going to let some rando online tell me about the history of my country and what's happened to my family.
If I, a foreigner is more versed in Iranian political history than an Iranian. Then you should be ashamed because your ignorance is showing.
I don't support Islamic fundamentalism that provides absolutely no benefit to their people and instead shoots them on a daily basis whenever a protest occurs. This goes in hand with the Monarchy.
The democratic process at the time was a vote by Parliament, he won both times fairly and he went through the process. If you referring to his pivot towards centralized control, this is because the same parliament that he was elected by started to undermine his powers as Prime Minister and prevented him from passing social reforms in large scale. This is also because undoubtedly his opposition was bribed by foreign nations in order to overthrow him (this includes Monarchists and Islamist fundamentalists) who both went against him because either not letting the Shah have absolute control (he did not know what to do and even BEGGED Mossadegh to give him advice whether he should abdicate and end the dynasty) Mossadegh let him to continue to rule. Islamic fundamentalists did not favor him either because he did not implement strict islamic rule and were the main leaders of opposition against him.
You are stating false facts about this situation in order to serve your weird ideology of what you think led Iran to this point.
You cant disprove any of them. Tells me more about you than you. Youre the one with the fetish with dictators that kill their own people lmfao
My original post disproved everything in your meme and you responded with nonsense sidefacts about every single one. Savak in their peak, executed around 3000 people, that number comes from the founder of the IRGC Mohsen Sazegara. Those 3000 people included people like Khamenei and Hashemi who believed they need to create a modern day caliphate through violence (which they did create via IRGC).
The shah did not kill his own people. His special forces executed murderers.
Source? Also his reforms were still better. Cope
What reforms? He was only PM for barely 2 years. The source is right in any place you want to read about him. He famously claimed to have won an election by 99.93 percent. His ideals of forcing nationalization if oil would have fucked Iran's industrialization. Iran did not have the technical expertise to nationalize oil. They literally did so in the 60's and formed OPEC to standardize oil prices. He is nothing more than a Chad guevera that would have ruined the progress of Iran before 79.
Like the Shah did any better? Lmao.
Yes. He in fact did do a lot better. If you look at any measurement for a countries growth, whether it's literacy, industrialization, buying power, education of women, nationalization of oil, regional power or military. They all did extremely well under the shah.
Also, way to sidestep every single point I made. You are nothing but false information.
Uneven benefits
"Education of Women"
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Its strategy was to funnel oil wealth to the court-connected elite who would then set up factories, companies, and agrobusinesses. In theory, wealth would trickle down. But in practice, in Iran, as has been the case in many other countries, wealth tended to stick at the top, with less and less finding its way down the social ladder. Wealth, like ice in hot weather, melted in the process of being passed from hand to hand. The result was not surprising. In the 1950s, Iran had one of the most unequal incomes
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Mossadegh’s mom was a member of the previous royal family, the Qajars.
Mossadegh was not “democratically elected” to be prime minister ministers he was appointed after an assassination and resignation. His ability to hold public office was restored after the previous Shah was forced out.
He did nationalize the oil reserves, which the Shah supported. That lead to a British blockade and economic collapse that I would argue was a bigger factor than the CIA. The Shah’s father had also forced the British to renegotiate in 1933. Then in 1973 the Shah nationalized the oil again announcing he wouldn’t extend any foreign contracts.
Saying the CIA and MI6 overthrew him gives them way too much credit considering Kermit Roosevelt didn’t even speak Farsi and his attempt failed. He was literally ordered to leave while Mossadegh was still in power.
I don’t think his quotes were good, they were largely nonsensical:
This deserves more uv's
The previous Shah before him was appointed by the British in the 1920s, he became Prime Minister of Iran through the constitutional, parliamentary process at the time. In which, paramilitary elected him with a majority vote. In 1952 another Iranian legislative election took place, he was appointed again Prime Minister. It was also discussed that in 1952, 18 of the candidates for PM were heavily supported by the CIA to undermine Mossadegh
"Yes, my sin — my greater sin and even my greatest sin is that I nationalized Iran's oil industry and discarded the system of political and economic exploitation by the world's greatest empire. This at the cost to myself, my family; and at the risk of losing my life, my honor and my property. With God's blessing and the will of the people, I fought this savage and dreadful system of international espionage and colonialism." I think this is pretty tuff.
The 1952 election where he stopped the counting of votes because they were voting against him? That election?
The same election where CIA operators described the election as relatively free? Wheres your free election?
Wait, so when the CIA, which isn‘t trustworthy according to you because they couped Mossadegh, says the elections are free and fair, we should suddenly believe them?
Is CIA trustworthy to you?
The corrupt election run by the CIA to put their puppet in office?
Mosaddegh at the end of term became deeply unpopular and ultimately had to cancel elections to stay in power. After he was removed by force (with single digit deaths) he spent the rest of his life in house arrest.
Regardless of his politics and resume, a “Chad” politician would have gotten people to fight for him (or at least have followers negotiate making him governor of an island). This guy didn’t have it.
He became "deeply unpopular" only after when he was overthrown by the CIA and MI6. Prior, to that he was popular. Much of his opposition and loyalist government took bribes from foreign countries to turn against him.
“My own party was bribed to turn against me by foreigners” even if that’s true your leader totally sucks at his job. Your version of events is that he had full support while in his home country and got beat by 3 CIA agents that can’t even speak the language.
3 CIA agents? Will we ignore the Islamist fundamentalists and Monarchists who were also bribed by the CIA and MI6 to oppose Mosaddegh? Lmao
Bro holy shit why does everybody and their mom have an opinion about MY country that you just HAVE to get off your chest? Bro our grandparents lived through his shit, we all know about him, every young Iranian guy has been through a phase of liking him, and then someone older than you tells you all the dumb shit he did and then you go "oh right yeah that sounds fucking stupid" and then you go on with your life.
I dont know what point these guys are trying to make when they say that Iran had foreign intervention. So? Every single other country on planet earth has had western intervention, do you want every Iranian to starve and die of thirst in 30 years while giving a middle finger to the US and Israel?
No matter how much it sucks, anti-imperialism and self-determination dont put food on the table and money in people's pockets.
His reforms and if he succeeded in the nationalization of the oil wouldve improved the lives of every Iranian during that era no doubt. Also, the influence in Iran was particularly strong.
yes, yes, it’s all the west’s fault. Mossadegh and every other wannabe dictator would have brought humanity into the Space Age already if not for the CIA.
I mean, there would be no Islamic regime today if he wasnt couped.
The Islamic Regime would have couped Mossadegh far earlier than they took power from the Shah.
The level of American narcissism is delusional. People can have their own politics and oppose Mosaddegh for their own reasons, the Middle East is not fully mind controlled by your one agency.
Some Muslims want Islam to have a role in their politics? Must be CIA
This is the expectation though, because his nations internal affairs were heavily influenced by foreign actors. Lets not be ignore these facts. Also the last comment I wrote is not the wrong. Thats literally what happend, the most fundamentalist religious leaders and intial supporters of his government were bribed in order to turn their support against him. Dont stop drinking the koolaid. Also, I could fairly say most of the Middle Eastern affairs were heavily impacted by three letter agencies.
He was fucking stupid and the shah literally had the constitutional right to dismiss him, he refused.
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Cope lil bro that hes better than your cuckhold of a leader who couldnt actually do anything to improve his country. Search up Black Friday 1978 to show all the accomplishments of the Shah (your right he was the best)
The Shah having a bad human rights record doesn't mean Mossadegh had a good one,two potential dictators commonly get into conflicts and that was the case in Iran,both Mossadegh and the Shah wanted a progressive nationalist dictatorship,just with them as dictators. Just as you shouldn#t lionize(pun fully intended) the Shah because Khomeini was worse,you shouldn't lionize Mossadegh because the Shah was bad
Mossadegh never intended to become a dictator, he only had to concentrate his powers temporarily because of bureaucratic obstruction were still loyal to the Shah or to foreign interests, meaning that Mossadegh couldn’t implement policies without facing roadblocks. He faced opposition within the Majlis (parliament), which blocked many of his reforms, especially fiscal and administrative changes. Shah Monarchists and Islamist Fundamentalist were both against him due to his social reforms.
Exactly, Khomeini and Shah were worse because they resorted to shooting their own people because they felt like it lmfao
He was the CIA's bitchboy.
This. This is what wanted to say.
I wouldn’t put any of these guys in the virgin category, all of them had at least five kids
Virgin dictators vs. Virgin dictator
Chad Prime Minister*
He was not a “chad,” Mossadegh was a former Qajar aristocrat who was salty about the Qajars being overthrown in 1925. The Qajars were incompetent buffoons who took L after L and Iran didn’t experience any kind of improvement until after Reza Shah overthrow the Qajars.
From that alone, why should I have sympathy for this guy? Any dispute they had with the Pahlavi dynasty was nothing more than inter-royal infighting.
Unlike the other two mossadegh was actually elected by the majles. I've seen enough comments on reddit treating mossadegh as if he was in a western democracy. Iran wasn't a western democracy and the guy was doing whatever he could to keep himself in power like every other faction in the Iranian government. His actions make a lot more sense when you realise he wasn't liked by any of Iran's political elite due to his populism. And his economic reforms if implemented would have greatly increased the welfare of the common Iranian.
Was he a 'good' guy? Maybe, maybe not but blindly pointing out his undemocratic tendencies without context is disingenuous. Also sadly he's just become a sort of pawn in the current bout on reddit between monarchists and Islamists who both don't give a fuck about him or his socialism.
So many people downvoting you. Probably Shah stans. Also let's not forget the Monarchists and Islamists were against him (mostly because they took bribes from the CIA) and that they literally suspended his powers in while he was in office. So that's why he wanted to secure his own position.
I mean I don't explicitly defend Mossadegh's political horseringing either, I just think it's represented unfairly by Shahists on here, but I do genuinely believe Iran could do good with a social democrat government to distribute its oil wealth and not like the past and current governments which are both extremely corrupt and unaccountable to the people of Iran.
Ofc there's no room for nuanced discussion on Iran on reddit. Either you're a Shahist or a Mollah.
They will downvote us to reddit hell
It's all fake internet points who cares.
Bro lmao Mossadegh’s last act of power before being deposed was trying to billions of dollars in oil manufacturing equipment and contracts with oil companies, amounting to hundreds of billions of dollars in potential contingent on that equipment, and give it to his friends. He wanted to make Iran a petrostate like Russia today (or Venezuela).
He cancelled elections almost immediately after his lowball offer on renegotiation was refused.
Dude was as much of a chad as any failed dictator.
One thing's for certain - the republic's flag sucks compared to those two... Especially to monarchy's...
Much better than the standard, bland tricolor...
Mossadegh wasnt the best either not as bad as other two but not perfect.
Nobody is perfect, but he was definitely the best out of the two. He did as much as he could in a period of Irans history where it was practically a British colony. He went through the process.
Killing people cancelling elections isnt" going through the process".
Are you talking about the Shah or Ayatollah? I cant put my finger on it.
You are being disengenious. Yk I'm talking about Mossadegh but you act like you dk.
Idk man, killing protesters sounds like what a Monarchist and Islamist fundamentalist would do. Might be a wild guess.
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Cope, the Shah is based
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Not only that but putting all your money into a nuclear weapons development programme only to get humiliated by "infidels, Zionists and Westerners" and have it all blown to pieces without shooting down a single jet has to be up there.
True lmao
They were all dictators. Can we not stan dictators for no reason?
2 lies, one truth
I don’t care for any of them
OP, why do you hate Iranians enough to maliciously spread misinformation?
It’s not.
Would it be better if the text were legible?
You can click on the image
The CIA and MI6 had other ideas
"Oh look, another third world country doing social democracy and nationalising its natural resources, I think its time for a little coup d'etat".
You may or may not be able to argue it was social, but democracy? Mosaddegh cancelled the elections when he was losing them.
He never was losing them, thats the thing.
Except he was. He specifically cancelled the elections to prevent the opposition parties from being able to get enough seats to challenge him.
Why simp so hard for someone so clearly authoritarian?
Buddy, the Tudeh party, which was the most organized political opposition to him failed to even get one seat in parliament. While other parties managed to get 12 seats, his government managed to secure 79 seats. Now you could criticize him for stopping the voting because his reason was to stop opposition from taking seats from rural areas but compared to any other leader in modern Iranian history. He was the best choice. Do you simp for the Shah or Mullah? Who were also authorities if not more because they actually acted on it and killed their own people. Thats pretty crazy
The toudeh party was a joke of a party that wanted to follow the Soviets in extreme socialism. The shah had many socialist ideas passed. The white revolution was a socialist revolution. To say you wanted more socialism than the shah is actually quite extremist.
The white revolution was an utter failure due to its poor management. Mosaddegh actually implented social reforms that performed better. Also the Shah litterally shot his own people sooo.
Mossadegh didn't accomplish anything. He was a prime minister under the shah for 2 years and only made loud noises. His actions left nowhere.
Hey, I've seen this one before!
How about you get a better flag that isn’t a shitty brighter Bulgaria flag
Thats literally the flag of Democratic Iran
I can feel the Shah stans keyboards going into overdrive.
Its over
I've been seeing a lot of Shah stans on here lately. Are they aware that he's dead? As a political position it seems like a non-starter.
The Shah stans want his son Reza Pahlavi to return to Iran and turn the country into Americas puppet again.
Real patriotic Iranians here
Interestingly, Mossadegh's legacy seems to have completely vanished from Iran.
It's because, both of the most dominant political spheres in Iranian politics. The Islamic fundamentalists and Shahists turned on him.