The conflicts between Israel and the various nations around it are well-known. And the memes about them and their post comments are similarly well-known. Nearly without fail, the moderator team has to deal with rule violations in the comments of these posts, and sometimes even in the post itself.
Ultimately, the benefit to the subreddit of having these sorts of memes is not worth the effort and headaches that they cause for the moderation team. Therefore, memes which deal with either general or specific Israel-Arab/Palestinian conflicts are going to join the list of other banned topics of Rule 5: Banned Memes and Formats. We intend to remove it from the list at some point, though we're still figuring out when that will be.
EDIT: Although the video specifically mentions several armed conflicts, memes which invite those same discussion topics will also be removed or locked, at moderator discretion.
Mod here. By rule violations, we mean literally hundreds of reports, often over a dozen bans, several permabans, and sometimes over a dozen reports of the post itself. This every day or two, for over a year.
Let’s get back to our roots. Hitler, Rome, and Chinese civil war casualties
And the occasional 9/11 post since we can
Being able to post 9/11 memes still feels new to me
the fuck do you mean? it hasn't been 20 yea...
oh fuck
In just 5.74 years 9/11 will be 30 years ago. Also children born now will be 75 in 2100.
Children born last year will be 76 in 2100!
The good old yellow River
Billions dead, Mandate of Heaven lost
8 new dishes made
Seven include peasants as the main ingredient
Pig would be used as a substitute later on
Cannibals have said that closest thing to human meat is pork. Is this why pork is famous in China 🤧
Human meat char siu bao was a whole conspiracy theory in China. Some dude who owned a restaurant in Macau killed a family and dismembered them in an attempt to commit identity theft. He threw out their body parts in the ocean and people found them washed up on the beaches. Police eventually traced it to the restaurant owner and arrested him when they found him in possession of documents related to the murdered family. People started a rumor that he put the family into the buns he made at the restaurant in order to hide the evidence and due to the fact that the police weren't able to find all the body parts initially. Supposedly, the police found all the body parts a couple of years later.
Don't forget Chad teddy Roosevelt biography quotes
that one time the army of Liechtenstein made a friend
Shit bro you forgot about the Alamo..
I visited the Alamo once with my buddy. It’s located on a busy city street corner in San Antonio and the context of seeing the building and its surroundings felt surreal
O wow, so you remember the Alamo.
“The Alamo…gotcha!”
And the sorta but not really predecessor to the Israel-Arab conflict, the Crusades!
And Japanese despair over ice cream boats.
Can we make an exception for the mongols?
Sure, so long as it’s well-tread topics and facts
You mean tropes?
Tropes would also apply but I said what I meant
I shall pray henceforth that my children inherit a world wherein they can post dank Six-Day War memes
It's kinda crazy to think now that people moved on from 9/11 faster than Israel-Palestine.
Osama was killed and Al-Qaeda as the "scary global organisation that could destroy the United States" has largely diminished into several localised insurgencies that are generally more concerned with local governance, so it's much easier to move on from 9/11.
In contrast, Israel Palestine is still ongoing and probably will keep going.
I could note the differences, but then that would start a longer conversation wherein we’d see the exact reason for this new rule.
As long as it's not six-seven day war memes I hope this for your children too
Where a man is judged by the content of his character, not the quality of his memes!
I may not agree with your memes, but I will fight for your right to post them.
Literally 1967
Literally 1948
Literally 0066
What about the neanderthal attack on the mammoths?
Sir, a second tusk has struck the yurt walls.
Literally 2025!
What memes are not banned
Do the Rome-Judea conflicts instead
We are the People's Front of Judea
Thought you were the Judean People's Front?
Fuck off, the Judean People's Front are splitters, we hate them.
Could be worse, could be the Judean Popular People's Front
Fucking splitters!
All I said was that fish was good enough for Jehovah!
Yeah, but I hate the People's Front of Judea even more!
You down with JPP? Yeah you know me!
I thought this was the Judean Peoples Front
SPLITTER!
No sir , this is McDonald's .
We hates the Judean People's Front, we hates it, yesss, Precious, we hates it.
splitters
It's Hanukkah. Perfect time for macabees vs Seleucid Empire under Antiochus IV, memes
What about Neo-Assyrian Empire vs Judea memes
This should have you covered.
Oh that sounds fun though
We are Rome baby let’s go
Too risky, the Arab-Israeli conflicts are directly related.
Or maybe Biblical memes
Everything is banned. If you find anything historical which isn't on that list, it's just because we haven't gotten around to adding it yet.
EDIT: Since I'm posting with the mod label, I'd better add /s
Can I make meme about meme ban
In 20 years
Good news! Reddit was founded in June of 2005! We might have to wait a few more years for r/HistoryMemes but generic OG Reddit is fair game!
Soon we will have memes about that guy who broke both his arms
I could have probably spun that into an Operation Nickel Grass meme...
and only during weekdays
Dammit, now they’re gonna ban that too
Literally 1984
Also I want flair, thanks
I guess I’m illegal then. I better turn myself in
Things that are not popular
Time to dig up my old Vietnam War memes.
Wehrmacht on meth. (just not on the weekend)
Almost all of them. https://www.reddit.com/r/HistoryMemes/top/?t=all
I think "Russia bed" always will not.
Clarification question: is this concerning all conflicts, or just the current conflicts?
Unfortunately, all of the conflicts.
Current conflicts are already covered by Rule 4: Year Limit, but even mentions of historical conflicts seems to be an invitation for people to bring out all of their grudges and prejudices.
Do the Crusades count?
So, for instance, Good Samaritan memes are not allowed?
You are to pretend the Levant as a whole does not exist.
There is no Levant in Ba Sing Se
So we need to make map where Levant is a sea and ask why Romans didn't just sail to India and why Columbus was so stupid that he went the long way?
I don't believe I have ever seen a Good Samaritan meme on this sub. But it would be allowed (under the Mythology provision of Rule 1).
Idk why you got down voted. I think this is reasonable
Question: Does this include the creation of Israel, the Sykes-Picot Treaty, the British Mandate Period, or even the Zionist movement in the 19th century like with Herzl and Dreyfus Affair?
I'm not disagreeing or agreeing with the ban, I'm asking for clarification on what to post and what not to post to not break the new rules
Good question. The creation of the state of Israel and the Zionism movement brings up the exact same arguments, so they'll probably be removed under Rule 5 as well. We don't see these topics nearly as often, but we probably should have clarified that.
Thank you for answering my question. And given how many times I've seen those arguments blow up every time Israel is even mentioned, yeah I can understand the ban
What about memes about the book "Exodus"? Technically that's just historical fiction.
Which is allowed as it falls under rule 1.
I would assume so. Otherwise why bother?
Philistine-Israel War memes incoming!
If people actually made their own agenda-posts, I would be worried.
EDIT: Wow. We actually had one about 1 hour and 40 minutes after this announcement post. No, I'm not going to link it. We removed it and locked it after banning a few people.
I just want you to know, whoever made the video is the goat. This is how you ban topics yet make it funny enough so no one can really argue with it
That was me. Thanks! I tried to make sure the flags were all accurate, but I should have known that no one in the comments would actually be focused on that part of the announcement.
Tell me why this wouldn’t work
If we can’t post memes about modern Israeli history
Its time we switch to ancient Israeli history
I thought you already posted about this?
We did. A mod volunteered to write the more descriptive post with the explanation.
And the ability to comment :)
So basically any meme regarding Israel
What about ancient Isreal?
Is Templar memes banned?
Sad thing is that probably even bringing up the destruction of Solomons Temple would trigger these discussions, especially with the amount of baitbots active on reddit nowadays.
Yeah, reddit is 90% bots these days
The bot problem is so bad that even people complaining about bots are bots.
saying that Judea existed and that its not made up by Israel will get you hate and reports as well so yes
We'll still get those sorts of comments, but there aren't as many of those posts, and the comments on those posts won't have nearly as many agendaposters.
We'll still likely have to lock comments on posts which get big, but we can still have some good discussion before that happens.
u/buttnakedcommando in shambles rn
literally 2025
Not for long!
And on the first night of Hanukkah? I don't know whether to be mad or sad.
Oh crap, you're right. I definitely didn't think about the optics on that one.
Hanukkah itself and the Maccabean Revolt are still valid topics, though!
even after Hanukah at Bondi Beach? Seems risky.
Well immediately there was an islamic terrorist attack in Sydney. It's similar to how Yom Kippur had the Manchester vehicle attack. They also had one on a Christmas market in Germany.
Fucking Jihadists man.
literally 1984
1948*
Since this mentions the year when a conflict was happening the comment is banned /j
Does it include anything relating to Israeli/Palestinian history or just conflict evoking stuff? Like, how many degrees of separation we're working with?
In the 60s there was a public trial in Tel-Aviv about banning WW2 erotica - is this far enough from the Israeli-Palestinian/Arab conflict?
What about domestic political shenanigans like the Beatles not being allowed into the country due to the ministry of education fearing they'll "corrupt the youth"?
Those would both be legitimate events to meme about.
The topics might get locked because of crowd control purposes if the comments got out of hand, but those memes would be allowed as long as they follow the rest of the rules.
On the first day of hannukah too…
What the fuck! Those are my favorites, this is bullshit, where am I supposed to see the posts by u/butt_naked_commando now?!
I'm not sarcastic btw
NOOOO BUT WHAT ABOUT u/butt_naked_commando
I get it, but I don't like it.
I know the mods here do not have the resources to keep up with this, but simply banning the topic altogether is just letting the trolls and bots win IMO.
Win? They have less places to post their propaganda to and the users here get memes that are actually funny, sounds like a double win for users
Time to go back with the classic Stone age conflicts instead.
Just ban 20th century memes entirely already. They're 90% ideology posting trolling for "debates" or karma anyways. At very least ban actual memes about ideology like the whole capitalism/communism horseshit that people love arguing about ad nauseum.
But muhh WW2 memes 😔
Ban 20th century memes. Ban memes within the last 20 years. Leave open memes from 2001 through 2005.
3000 9/11 memes of r/HistoryMemes
For the new year, all I want is memes about the guy Dick Cheney shot in the face apologizing for being shot in the face, and dozens of bans resulting from a people taking sides in the Brunelleschi/Ghiberti baptistery door painting feud.
b-but then people will have to think :O
You want history posting without ideology? It's like a hamburger without breads.
Think of it more like I want fine artisan bread made with real ingredients rather than ultra processed with tons of sugar.
I want the Hussite bread, the Miaphysite bread, I want the bread that Jaakko Ilkka was baking. Give me the lovely smell of freshly baked Italian City States or ancient Aksum.
Anything but a sad grey patty between a bun baked by nerd trying to relitigate the Cold War because the only place they’ve ever made friends is with politics sickos online.
Why dont we dedicate a day for massive problematic historical events and nations and slowly rid ourself of those who cant follow rules ?
Excellent idea! Unfortunately, Automoderator doesn't have the ability to ban every single person who posts or comments, so we'll have to put a pin in that idea.
I'm dissapointed that this video doesn't have any sound
But what about people posting about the USS Liberty for the 80th time? How else will they be able to vaguely hint at their conspiracies?
Damn, this is dumb as hell.
Can't say if this is the right approach to the problem but I can attest that the mods are not overselling the issue. I've seen it first hand in other communities, any post about a contentious topic gets botted HARD.
Like I'm talking hundreds of literal bots commenting at once with really bad engagement bait, then hundreds of reports, Mix in dozens more of actual human made comments slapfighting with the bots and it becomes a nightmare to clean.
Its just Indian bots fighting each other
Indian bots fighting with Iranian, Pakistani, and Qatari bots
Y'all should do only verified member threads or something instead
Is mayonnaise an Arab Israeli war?
You better not post any memes referencing 65 year old important historical conflicts in the history memes subreddit.
This conflict is older than 65 years
Im so glad we no longer can post about the conflict between Israeli Jews and Palestinian Arabs. Now to post about Judeans and Philistines.
Mods should really stand up for what’s right, & stand against this
Fuck r/Fauxmoi Radical shitheads
Booooo
This is so embarrassing!
1984 smh
Literally 1984
Literally 1984
I'm a bit surprised that it took this long, to be completely honest.
Just look at all the top comments, Reddit is no different from Twitter.
Literally 1984
SoYou'reTellingMeThere'sAChanceMeme.gif
Pretty sure there's a 10 year window unaddressed.
but now i cant sort the posts by controversial
Edgy kids couldn't behave themselves enough. Just had to draw conflict rather than learn something.
Literally 1984
We can still post Roman-Judea conflict posts, right? 😁
First they came for the memes
Between site rules, overworked mods, and reporting/brigading bots, it's clear that Reddit is not ready for this.
Just move over to 4chan or something, people. Embrace the real internet and deal with it. People insult you? Give it back with zero filters. Nobody gives an F about it because A: There is no upvote/downvote system and B: This won't cause threads to get shut down, unlike here.
It's better than trying to be nice for the sake of keeping "advertiser friendly spaces" or whatever this site has become.
RULE 3: No discrimination or abuse
... but also ... don't talk about the only Jewish state.
Finally, I am truly bored with the Arabophobia, Islamophobia and Anti-Semitism
Literally 1984
disappointing
L take. Is there another meme history sub
...r/IslamicHistoryMeme?
Im not sure you would want to post any Israel memes there
My list wasn't comprehensive. I'm sure there are plenty of others that I missed.
Removing a very important part of history is not the way to solve this. Either way, are posts about Israeli history without the wars okay?
Yes. You could make a post RE 80s hyperinflation for instance.
saw a post about archeologists that found some ancient Israeli coins and the comments were full of angry pro Palis arguing with others about if Israel trully existed or if its just zionist lie, so well, yes
That's disappointing but I can't imagine the shitshow you have to clean up.
Damn mods, that’s just how it goes with any thread on every sub that has Jews mentioned, so while you’re at it, might as well go to the full extent and remove us all, it’s not like it’s hard, there’s not many of us anyway.
This was really one of the only subs where our voices weren’t insta-banned and censored to oblivion by hostile mods.
It wasn't the mods that were hostile in this case. They actually let a lot of civil discussions slide as long as people didn't resort to extreme anger or whatever. They remained impressively neutral more or less for a long time.
But people being people users kept frothing at the mouth any time the topic was brought up.
I was referring to mods in other subs, this sub was one of the only places outside of Jewish subs where we weren’t automatically ostracized unless we immediately admitted to being against anything and everything Israel related
Oh I see what you mean
Mod L after Mod L
10 7 2023 was never the same for the world
Unfortunate but reasonable
Seems like a lazy solution by moderators so they don’t have to moderate. Poo poo and for shame, I say!
Pretty much. Now we have more time for popping children's balloons and kicking puppies.
It would be a disaster if people started making memes of their own agenda
Tired of "Here before 🔒" comments?
Internal shit that israel did . That doesn't relate to its enemies .
Or like stuff they do with other countries ( not in conflict with middle east ) eg: having israel troops going to singapore as " Mexican" for advising their military .
Is that allowed?
Depends. The Munich Airport counts RE this rule, Israel in the Biafra Civil War is allowed.
Once again, another sub fell for the “No fun allowed” mods
This is quite outrageous. Its just another coincidence the Jewish state gets treated differently than everyone else. Nothing to see here.
Well people keep raising hell every time it's mentioned. If people could talk about it without it devolving into mud slinging we probably would have a nice time.
So if a bunch of 3rd world radicals hate you and make a stink anytime you're mentioned, you get silenced? Great to let the bad guys win.
Honestly? Good. This was long overdue.
Every single Israel/Palestine or Israel/Arab meme thread turns into a radioactive dumpster fire almost immediately. People roll in armed with TikTok talking points, half-remembered Twitch streamer rants, or whatever a government spokesperson from AIPAC or literal jihadist group that is the supposed “Resistance” said that week, and suddenly it’s treated as immutable historical fact. Context? Nuance? Actual history? Nah, fuck all that vibes only.
It stops being “history memes” and turns into misinformation cosplay. You get people confidently explaining a century-long, deeply complex conflict with the intellectual depth of a 30-second clip with a Hasan Piker or Ben Shapiro thumbnail. Everyone’s absolutely certain they’re right, everyone else is evil, and anyone asking for nuance and empathy gets dogpiled. Rinse, repeat.
The worst part is that these memes don’t educate anyone. They don’t even function as jokes anymore, they’re just bait. Bait for ideological slap fights, bait for propaganda regurgitation, bait for mods to spend their entire day locking threads and banning people. Nothing of value is produced. No one learns anything. Everyone leaves angrier and dumber.
If people genuinely want to learn about the conflict, a meme subreddit is the worst possible place to do it. And if they just want to scream slogans, dehumanize people, or play “my side good, your side evil,” there are already a thousand other places on Reddit for that.
So yeah, banning it makes complete sense. It’s not censorship, it’s quality control and sanity preservation. Frankly, I’d be fine if we didn’t have memes or “discourse” about this conflict here at all. This subreddit isn’t equipped for it, the users aren’t equipped for it, and the comments prove that every single time.
And honestly? Fuck anyone who has a problem with that.
What about the conflicts in British Mandate?
Met the same fate as the turkeyposters 😔
Probably for the best
Clarification question: memes about the history of Israel in other topics (inner politics, economy etc.) are still allowed right?
Correct. The comments might get locked if it starts getting those sorts of debates in the comments, but the post will stay up.
Moderator inconvenience is an issue thats not talked about enough.