I've been hearing alot of stories about these "taxes" during late Joseon. There was an incident where a family ended up getting taxed higher after another son was born and the father proceeded to castrate himself in response.
There's an 18th-century record that tells us how much they were paid. 7냥, which could buy you about 200 kg of rice at the time. In the record, the "caning seller"'s wife urged her husband to do more, and he did 3 jobs that day.
Korea still does this in some places. Those with money can bribe officials to evade the draft. I'm not sure if there have been cases of someone paying someone else to do it for him though.
Isn't that basically how feudalism switched to absolutism? Fewer and fewer nobles actually did preparations for war and the state itself was interested in nobles having no war experience too, and that related to the switch from feudal levies to standing armies and at some point state just took away the middlemen and implemented the tax on nobles that avoided draft
Surprisingly common. You could either pay someone to serve in your place or just pay a fine to the government to avoid your number in Napoleonic France.
They could’ve just made it into a fine, and skip the middleman being beaten.
But guess they wanted to keep the spirit of the punishment.
it's not about the money it's about sending a message
What if some dude paid to punish other people, can't kill that market opportunity
It's also about the money
Caning executioner: Hey! Then how am I supposed to get my cut, "swinging power adjustment fee"?
And steal jobs from honest working men??? I don't think so, commie!
I've been hearing alot of stories about these "taxes" during late Joseon. There was an incident where a family ended up getting taxed higher after another son was born and the father proceeded to castrate himself in response.
There are two things certain in life: Death and Castration(?)
Damn my dad sacrifice his balls for mine
More like a statement: "No more brothers and sisters for you, can't afford the taxes anymore"
Yield his balls to claim his taxes
There's an 18th-century record that tells us how much they were paid. 7냥, which could buy you about 200 kg of rice at the time. In the record, the "caning seller"'s wife urged her husband to do more, and he did 3 jobs that day.
He died of rhabdomyolysis.
Keep in mind doing this once allowed one to earn a month’s wages in a single day, so you can see the temptation.
i think after the second beating you would probabaly be so numb that you think you can take the third.
Korea still does this in some places. Those with money can bribe officials to evade the draft. I'm not sure if there have been cases of someone paying someone else to do it for him though.
Rich northerners did this during the American Civil War, pay someone else to be drafted instead of you.
Isn't that basically how feudalism switched to absolutism? Fewer and fewer nobles actually did preparations for war and the state itself was interested in nobles having no war experience too, and that related to the switch from feudal levies to standing armies and at some point state just took away the middlemen and implemented the tax on nobles that avoided draft
That was one thing, but it's usually many smaller things adding up
I heard a lot of former french nobility fought in WW1 and faced disproportionate casualty rates.
Surprisingly common. You could either pay someone to serve in your place or just pay a fine to the government to avoid your number in Napoleonic France.
Nowadays, people would willingly want this to happen to them.
You're assuming that humans were different back then? Some of them were definitely masochists.
Garuentee some guy seemed way to eager to sell his body for punishments
Man must have ended up either Rich or dead but either way he was a mess to clean up after.