I’ve nothing concrete but if you think about it, most of our major religions worship the sun which is a big ball of plasma, and in gnostic traditions the aons are described as pure light. Scientist think most of the UAP’s through history were probably just plasmoids but if they are possibly intelligent then what are the chances they have something to do with our spiritual teaching?
Absolutely. In Joseph P. Farrell’s fascinating book "The Demon in the Ekur" he bridges the gap between ancient theology and modern plasma physics by exploring the "plasma life hypothesis."
Farrell's work essentially reframes ancient spiritual warfare and sightings, from Foo Fighters to biblical apparitions, as interactions with a sentient, electrically-active state of matter that modern science is only beginning to quantify.
In Professor Robert Temple's monumental book "A New Science of Heaven", he reveals the key that's needed to better understand UAP, NHI and many other mysteries of our universe. It's the most transformative book I've ever read, affecting my worldview so profoundly that I immediately began re-reading it after finishing it.
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also here
Below is an overview of the subject of conscious plasma:
Plasma holds the key to understanding not only the structure of the universe, but also the origins of life and consciousness itself.
Across multiple disciplines: astrophysics, plasma physics, and astrobiology, a growing body of research suggests that plasma is far more than a passive state of matter. It is a dynamic, self-organizing, and intelligent medium that forms the vast majority of the cosmos.
It is a settled scientific fact that plasma constitutes 99.9% of the visible universe. Every star, nebula, and interstellar cloud is made of plasma. It is a highly ionized, electrically-active substance that forms filaments, vortices, and coherent patterns on every scale.
Our understanding of plasma has been updated along with several recent revolutionary discoveries. I understand this is a new concept to many, but it's important that we follow what the science says.
There is an overwhelming amount of scientific evidence that shows plasma displays conscious, life-like behaviors. The problem isn't a lack of evidence, it's the inability of people to accept what the data says because it challenges their personal worldview and the academic status quo.
These are all peer-reviewed, this is from Harvard
Tsytovich et al., “From plasma crystals and helical structures towards inorganic living matter” — New Journal of Physics (2007).
Numerical and theoretical work on complex dusty plasmas that can self-organize into stable helical/cell-like structures which, in the authors’ words, exhibit autonomy, self-duplication and evolution-like behavior under certain conditions. The paper shows that dusty complex plasmas are strong candidates for inorganic living matter in space.
Lozneanu & Sanduloviciu, “Minimal-cell system created in laboratory by self-organization” — Chaos, Solitons & Fractals (2003).
Laboratory experiments producing complex space-charge configurations (plasma structures) that behave like living “cell-like” systems: they maintain an internal structure, exchange matter/energy with the environment, and show birth/replication-like events. The authors model these as minimal systems with life-like attributes.
Plasma Brain Dynamics: II. Quantum Effects on Consciousness
This 2018 paper models the brain as a plasma system, where ions and charged particles interact collectively, producing electromagnetic and quantum effects. Using Wigner‑Poisson equations, it shows how these plasma-like dynamics could support coherent, non-local information processing, suggesting a physical substrate for consciousness. By framing neural activity as a plasma capable of sustaining organized, quantum-influenced states, the paper provides a formal model linking plasma behavior directly to conscious experience.
Morfill & Ivlev, “Complex Plasmas: an interdisciplinary research field” — Reviews of Modern Physics (2009).
An authoritative review of complex dusty plasma experiments and theory, documents phenomena such as plasma crystals, metastable states, collective modes, and self-organized structures that underpin the claims made about lifelike, self-organizing behavior.
Self-organization and kinetic instability studies in plasmas (recent reviews/papers, e.g. photoionized plasmas 2023 / MDPI 2024).
Examples of modern research showing spontaneous pattern formation and self-organization in plasma systems, the physical mechanisms behind it, and how those mechanisms can produce complexity. These works show the robust, repeatable physics behind life-like plasma.
Complex plasma research under microgravity conditions
Above is a review of complex dusty plasma experiments (including ISS experiments) that produce ordered structures, waves, collective modes, and self-organizing behavior used as a lab for “many-body” phenomena. Useful background on how dusty plasmas exhibit collective, life-like patterning.
Here's a peer-reviewed study on plasma's abilities to display intelligent, life-like behavior.
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Love A New Science of Heaven. Recommend it to anyone. I have an extra copy I’ll give to anyone that lives in central Texas lol
Only stipulation is you actually read it.
That's funny cos my neighbor saw my copy and asked to borrow it. Was the best Xmas gift I could give him. It's worldview-changing, in the best way possible.
It’s a pretty book, too. Looks good on my shelf. Love the green and black.
Incredible write up
I take issue with one or two of the studies linked but kept scrolling and you provided more and more for me to read. So I’m not going to complain and will say thank you for this post. Saved!
Cheers bruv, I post my comments for intellectually-curious people like you. Enjoy the rabbit hole! 🐇
could you elaborate on the issues?
Well, you have to understand that existence is conceptually a giant decentralized holographic neural network (a giant unified wave function, or singularity). We are all entangled with one another and originate from the same source. Each of us is equal to one another, non-physical/eternal, and encoded with the instructions of the whole.
We create our own distinct version of reality individually, but also in co-creation with others collectively, akin to a Venn diagram where the circles overlap. These "stories" we create with one another can be for entertainment, growth, evolution, etc. There are "parallel realities" of basically everything you can imagine. Ultimately it is an individual experience where you are guided recursively by a "future"/forecasted version of yourself, and you can choose what you experience through your unique resonant frequency.
To your points, yes, we are "light beings", ingesting and emitting photons, which is why ascension is sometimes called "enlightenment". UAPs over the course of human history could be nuts and bolts craft or non-physical interdimensional beings (which we all actually are); prior cultures may have labeled them as angels or demons, depending on their polarity and intentions.
P.S. FWIW, I am an experiencer of sentient plasmatic orbs myself.
I love the general description of people living their own realities ans the way you describe that. But I have to call out the the idea that people knew about photons in antiquity.
Reality and the truth of human history is a lot more different than what was taught in school, my friend. As the famous quote says, truth can be stranger than fiction. You'd be surprised what people in "antiquity" knew. And they did leave breadcrumbs - the pyramids, flower of life, seeded ideas throughout religious texts, etc.
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Man, you described it so well !
I think a lot of the old carvings were depicting orbs. And, we mistranslated it to be the sun. At least, the ones that actually resemble the orbs.
Usually there are other context clues and further information available to conclude that a culture practices Sun worship.
Check out Robert Temples book; New Science of Heaven. Get it via Audible; he reads it himself. Good guy. Alternatively check out a YouTube video with him. There is a good one from the New Thinking Allowed channel.
Everything is connected. Energy is conscious
consciousness all the way down
Define everything. Define connected. Define energy. Define conscious.
This. Every time I see a post like this, I always ask them to explain. Usually they can't and it's all their feelings.
It may sound hostile, but it's necessary to help distinguish between actual questions and nonsense.
I wish more folks would do this on this sub instead of just accepting everyone's opinion.
Exactly. I want to argue with people about all of this, but meaningfully. I don't even know what this person is saying. This sub is about dealing with the shit that doesn't exist without nuance and people are mad when you ask for nuance in their opinions.
You know how the Beatles said
? It’s kinda like that.
😂 I’m sorry, I had to.
But honestly, maybe the reason you’re having trouble getting anywhere on this is because it’s a difficult concept. I don’t think I, or anyone else, would be able to convince you of this with a simple Reddit debate. It’s not like we can pull out hard evidence of consciousness, because the best scientists and philosophers don’t even agree on what consciousness is, who has it, or god forbid, why….
I’d be happy to recommend you some topics or theories to look into though, there are a lot of theories and even religions that circle or dial in on these ideas. Hinduism, Buddhism, Donald hoffman’s theories about reality, Bernardo Kastrup. And I found a lot of interesting cross over between these ideas and quantum related stuff as well. To be honest, a part of it is a bit spiritual, too. It makes more sense for me than any organized religion ever did, at least.
With that being said, Im self aware enough to realize that I’m drawn to the idea because I like the idea of everyone being connected. That it gives me “spiritual meaning” that I didn’t necessarily have before. I haven’t been connected with religion for most of my life. Have always just been connected to science and truth and observable facts. And it wasn’t until I started exploring big ideas about consciousness that I realized how lonely my worldview was before — about being a tiny, meaningless speck in a meaningless moment in the grand scheme of space/time. It made me realize why so many people turn to religion in the first place.
Excuse my wall of text, but you asked for meaningful discussion and this is heartfelt, so I hope that even if you disagree or have no interest in exploring the topics I shared with you any further, that you’ll be thoughtful in your response.
I, too, have found it difficult to discuss topics like this and that may also be part of the reason why you’ve encountered difficulty before.
I can't discuss with a book. You can't ask it clarifying questions. We're here to discuss things, and I'm wherever on the dunning-kruger philosophy scale that means I need to ask questions about a premise before I'm comfortable delving in.
Calm down.
I'm perfectly calm. I've just had a lot of these conversations, and these are usually the sticking points.
Fair. Just thought you came across as a bit combative is all, sorry for the misunderstanding!
All good. It's a charged topic, and we expect combat when we delve in.
Energy is intelligent. Maybe in high energy states, like nukes and earthquakes that's why we see UFOs, it's the intelligence emerging from energy. I suspect a relationship between energy and intelligence, like some E=MC2 type shit.
Those are ancient concepts, written about hundreds of times even in the last century. Is there something unique about this particular book?
I fully believe they are one in the same.
The universe essentially began with plasma. The standard model is ‘spiritual’ enough
You'd like A New Science of Heaven by Robert Temple. All about plasma having the capacity for intelligent, conscious awareness and information processing. Crosses into that sort of stuff potentially being an explanation for and validating not just UAPs, but also mind-matter interactions and other "spiritual" or "paranormal" phenomena.
This is the link your looking for.
https://www.llresearch.org/
Recurring hypnagogic experiencer here. Plasmoids that have jellyfish features are second most common hallucination next to portals. Third most common is wheels within wheels above the bed that seem like fractal cameras
This is the thesis of ‘A new science of heaven’ by Robert Temple
Plasmoids and conscience
Yup, been a thesis for decades for some heretics, tho Temple did an excellent job.
I suspect it has some legitimacy and will help build a scaffold towards more understanding, though I also suspect that some few at the teat of black budgets are far beyond.
The thought has crossed my mind that perhaps the Sun (and by association other stars) could possibly be intelligent.
Sounds laughable right? Our brains consist of many neurons, firing electrical signals, and chemicals...all working to generate consciousness (we assume).
The Sun also has plenty of electrical and magnetic energy, chemistry, and not to mention nuclear interactions...
Who is to say the Sun couldn't function like a giant brain?
I am the Moon. And I say the sun is not intelligent, a brain, or conscious. Any one can light up the day; it’s already light out. But only I can light up the night! Remember that when you’re looking for someone to praise! /s
I agree. I know it sounds quite whack-a-doodle today but I firmly believe we’re only a matter of time away from finding out everything is conscious. I think things are probably a lot weirder than we’ve made them out to be. Almost like we have to filter out all the insane amazing over the top things about the universe in order for our brains to be able to function day to day and keep us alive to eat and reproduce. Otherwise I think we’d all just be rolling in the grass weeping and astounded at the greatness of the universe. In some ways I’m amazed we’re not already. When you think about it, even existing in our reality is absolutely bonkers.
I call spirit/aether plasma jelly. Could relate
The Bledsoes make it sound like that's the case.
Elaborate please?
They are apparently able to directly communicate with orbs and tie them to certain aspects of our religions. They claim to communicate with a spirit lady that people say sounds like the Holy Spirit. Idk what to make of their claims but the government seems to believe them.
Well biblically accurate angels are very different in what we in the west through the lens of the renaissance artist’s interpretation would view them. Chariots of fire, eyes on all sides and wheels within wheels all sound like something that could be plasmoid. But I would throw a question back why couldn’t these beings be of a spiritual dimension interacting into our physical realm rather than the inverse?
Plasmoids are not intelligent but they move as they were observing something and following it.
Here is how they follow objects (foo fighters): https://electroballpage.wordpress.com/foo-fighter/
Here the link to some angels: https://electroballpage.wordpress.com/linking-angels-to-electroballs/
Here the link to ghost and virgin apparitions: https://electroballpage.wordpress.com/ghosts-bell-shaped-electroballs/
Absolutely. They’re both make believe.
Possibly a new branch of life according to scientists, nasa claims thy engage in possibly intelligent behaviors “We hypothesize, based on factual evidence [1]- [3] [45] [46], that some plasmoids may be sentient and conscious of their surroundings and engage in purposeful interactions”
This is a statement from NASA?