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I’ve been thinking about the Sun a lot lately, and not in a mystical “the Sun loves us” way, but also not in the very flat “it’s just a ball of gas, end of story” way either. More like: there’s a strange amount of unresolved stuff here that we collectively pretend isn’t unresolved, and that alone should probably make us a bit uncomfortable.
We’re told the Sun is a G-type main sequence star. Hydrogen and helium. Fusion. Roughly 4.6 billion years old. Predictable output. No intelligence, no agency, no awareness, just a nuclear reaction that happens to be in the right place at the right time for life to arise. Random but lucky. Dead matter doing dead-matter things.
That model mostly works… until you actually look at the details.
Take the corona problem. The surface of the Sun is about 5,500°C. Fine. The corona, which is farther away from the core, is one to three million degrees. That is backwards. Heat is not supposed to work that way. It’s like standing near a campfire and finding the air ten metres away is thousands of times hotter than the flames themselves. There are explanations on paper — magnetic reconnection, wave heating, nanoflares — but none of them are experimentally nailed down. We’ve been staring at the Sun for decades and still don’t actually know why energy is being added outward instead of dissipating. Something is injecting energy where it shouldn’t be.
Then there’s the neutrino thing, which people tend to gloss over now because it’s been “solved.” For a long time, detectors were seeing only a fraction of the neutrinos fusion models predicted. That was a serious problem. It led some very serious physicists to ask whether fusion was even the Sun’s primary energy source. The eventual solution — neutrino oscillation — required extending particle physics itself. That doesn’t mean the Sun isn’t fusing hydrogen, but it does mean the Sun forced us to invent new physics to keep our story intact. That pattern shows up more than once.
Solar cycles are another weird one. Everyone knows about the ~11-year sunspot cycle. What’s less comfortable is that people like Alexander Chizhevsky noticed correlations between solar activity and human history — revolutions, wars, social upheaval, bursts of creativity. Mainstream science tends to dismiss this as coincidence or cherry-picking, and that criticism isn’t unreasonable. But the correlations don’t go away. They keep showing up in different datasets, different eras, different cultures. Either this is one of the longest-running statistical coincidences in history, or the Sun influences human systems in ways we don’t really model — electromagnetic, neurological, behavioural, something else. I’m not saying which. I’m saying it’s odd how quickly the conversation shuts down.
The way the Sun behaves is also… not what people imagine when they say “just burning gas.” It doesn’t burn steadily. It pulses, erupts, reorganises itself, flips its magnetic polarity every 11 years with striking regularity, throws off massive coronal mass ejections, then settles back down. We describe all of this mechanically, which is fine, but if you strip away the assumption that it must be unconscious, the language starts sounding less like randomness and more like regulation. Not intention in a human sense, but regulation. Homeostasis.
And then there’s the precision problem. The Sun’s size, output, spectrum, and distance from Earth are exactly right for complex life. Too close and you get Venus. Too far and you get Mars. Wrong spectrum and photosynthesis fails. We usually wave this away with the Anthropic Principle — “of course it’s perfect, otherwise we wouldn’t be here to notice.” That’s logically valid, but it’s also a tautology. It explains why observers exist in tuned systems, not why the tuning exists in the first place. It feels like a placeholder we’ve all agreed not to look behind.
What really nags at me is how universally ancient cultures treated the Sun as conscious, law-giving, or at least aware. Ra, Helios, Surya, Amaterasu, Inti, Kinich Ahau, and on and on. The standard explanation is that ancient people personified natural phenomena because they didn’t understand science. But these same cultures tracked astronomical cycles with insane precision, built solar-aligned architecture, and encoded mathematics we still struggle to explain. It’s at least possible they weren’t just projecting personalities onto the sky, but relating to something experientially. Not worshipping heat, but engaging with whatever the Sun is.
I’m not pushing one alternative explanation. I don’t think it’s that simple. But a few models seem to fit the anomalies better than “dead fusion reactor.”
Maybe the Sun is conscious — not like us, not fast, not emotional, but operating on timescales we’d barely recognise. Flares as rapid events, cycles as rhythms, long-term evolution as developmental phases. A mayfly wouldn’t recognise human consciousness either; we’d be far too slow.
Maybe the Sun is technological in some sense — not necessarily built like a machine, but modified, stabilised, or cultivated. A regulatory node. A computation substrate using plasma dynamics. A system that does something more than just radiate energy.
Maybe the entire solar system functions like an organism, with the Sun as a coordinating core. Energy flows outward, planets maintain stable non-colliding orbits, magnetic fields create a protective bubble around the whole system. That starts to look less like chaos and more like physiology.
Or maybe the Sun is an interface — a boundary where dimensions, information, or energy cross over. If consciousness is non-local, the Sun could act as a lens or focal point rather than a generator.
I don’t know which, if any, of these are true. What I do know is that “just burning gas” explains less than it pretends to, and shuts down curiosity far too early.
What makes this feel timely is that we’re heading into a solar maximum right now (2024–2025). Periods of heightened solar activity have historically coincided with social instability, ideological shifts, revolutions, and technological leaps. At the same time, consciousness research is creeping back into legitimacy, psi research never really went away, and AI is forcing us to rethink what intelligence even is. It’s at least interesting that these curves overlap.
Another thread that seems impossible to ignore here is the relationship between solar activity, the Earth’s electromagnetic environment, and human consciousness — particularly via the Schumann resonance. The Earth–ionosphere cavity resonates primarily around ~7.83 Hz, with harmonics that sit uncomfortably close to human alpha and theta brainwave bands. That overlap is usually dismissed as coincidence, but the Schumann resonance isn’t static. Its amplitude, noise profile, and harmonic structure fluctuate with lightning activity, geomagnetic storms, and ionospheric compression, all of which are strongly influenced by solar flares, CMEs, and changes in solar wind. During periods of heightened solar activity, the electromagnetic “background” the human nervous system evolved inside is literally being modulated. If consciousness is even partly sensitive to timing, phase, and coherence (as EEG research, hemisync experiments, and meditation studies suggest), then it’s at least plausible that solar-driven changes in the Schumann environment act less like a direct signal and more like a shifting carrier wave — subtly altering what states of mind are easier or harder to access.
This wouldn’t mean the Sun is “controlling” human consciousness, but that large-scale electromagnetic dynamics might bias populations toward heightened emotional volatility, intuition, creativity, instability, or liminality. Mystical traditions have long associated solar cycles with awakening, madness, revelation, and collapse, and modern psi research often reports increased anomalous experiences during geomagnetically active periods. I don’t think any single dataset proves this, but when solar maxima, Schumann variability, increased reports of altered states, cultural upheaval, and technological inflection points line up repeatedly, it starts to look less like unrelated phenomena and more like a coupled system being pushed closer to a threshold.
So the question isn’t “is the Sun conscious?” That’s too blunt.
The real question is: what assumptions are we making that require it not to be?
If consciousness is fundamental rather than emergent, then a lot of things we call “objects” may actually be processes. The Sun might be one of them.
I don’t have conclusions here. I have questions. And I’m increasingly uncomfortable with how little space we allow those questions, given that the single most dominant presence in our sky affects every biological, electrical, and psychological system on Earth, has unresolved anomalies attached to it, and was treated as something far more than a lamp by every civilisation we know of.
Curious what others think — especially anyone who’s looked at solar dynamics, plasma physics, or consciousness research beyond the standard textbook framing.
EDIT: have been adding some details and making some amendments here, it’s on my mind
Interesting post. What stays with me isn’t the claim that the Sun is conscious, but how much certainty we smuggle in when we insist it isn’t. “Unconscious” starts to look less like a scientific conclusion and more like a default assumption we don’t examine very hard.
There are genuine open questions in solar physics, and plausible ways solar dynamics couple into biological and cognitive systems without invoking intention or mysticism. That alone should make us wary of flattening the Sun into “just” an object. At the same time, correlations like historical, psychological, cultural, are easy to overread, so the danger of pattern-hunger is real.
But the deeper issue is this: if consciousness is process-like rather than thing-like, field-like rather than local, then the problem isn’t whether the Sun has consciousness. It’s whether our framework even knows how to notice non-human forms of organisation without declaring them dead by definition.
Exactly. Try to imagine the kindly physics post doc who is totally willing to hear you out. You: I hypothesize that the sun is conscious! Doc: Brilliant! How will you test this new theory? You: Well, what do physicists know about consciousness? Doc: Yeaaaahhhh.... I'm gonna have to get back to you on that.
Just testing the theory would require astrophysicists and consciousness researchers and likely plasma physicists, maybe a neurosurgeon? We lack fundamental formal structure for even beginning.
And with no interest from academics, there's no money to create the specialized resource pool necessary for conducting that kind of research.
Well said. Thanks for so eloquently articulating what I was thinking! :)
It seems to me that until we resolve whether consciousness is local or field based, we're sort of stuck with material observations and assumptions.
Here's hoping our great minds and machines can solve it within our lifetime, so we can collectively gain a new insight into the fabric and origin of consciousness!
Some of your early postulates about solar temperatures, uncanny timing, and such do have largely explainable if somewhat mundane scientific explanations, but I'm with you otherwise. If consciousness is as fundamental as it seems, it would almost certainly have to interact orthogonally with all the other fields in a similar fashion to how the electric and magnetic fields influence each other. And academia can only be trusted as far as reputations allow, no matter the field of study. Lately I've been toying with the idea that highly charged, stable plasmas may act as a viable substrate for housing consciousness the way a human brain does. My best analogy is this: the brain is a radio. Consciousness is the radio station broadcast in the form of waves in the electromagnetic field (both radio waves and brain waves excite the same field at different amplitudes and frequencies). You are the song you hear playing on the radio. A unique thing that exists as a relationship between the consciousness field and the geometry and chemistry of the meat brain. The human body that meat processor drives around is a salt-water filled cavity with a literal antenna (spine and ribs) in the middle. Brainwaves look like chaos until you seperate the bands and parse signal from noise. If the sun is conscious, it may be very alien indeed. The one thing i have to point out though: it is impossible to do science without bias. Axioms or postulates are literally unprovable things we assume to be true so we can get started. Which leads to: the tuning problem is a false problem. No matter who you are or what your frame of reference is, it will appear tuned. Usually you do not have or cannot have a second reference point with which to compare. The sun's conditions seemed fine tuned for life only because we find it here. But it could be much more than it appears. The moon definitely is, so why not? We are constantly finding extremophiles that could survive on harsher worlds better than us. Perhaps life is everywhere and we don't yet have the framework to recognize it! I fully plan to ask our celestial neighbors all about the conditions on their respective homeworld the moment i get the opportunity. Sooon
I tend to think the universe is just an organism itself and the galaxies and stars are just like its neurons in our brains. Which would fit what you’re questioning. Great post.
This makes so much sense!!!
Dropping in to add an anecdote for whatever it's worth. A few years ago I was vacationing on the coast. Fog rolled in early and had pretty much obscured the sky, but as I was sitting watching the ocean the clouds parted just a little bit and the setting sun poked through. The clouds obscured it just enough that I could comfortably look at it, and I wish I could adequately describe what happened in that moment. It was like making eye contact with someone, and I felt a powerful presence I'd never felt before. Honestly it's the closest thing I've ever had to a religious experience. It wasn't even a particularly striking or dramatic sunset, there was just...something about the sun itself in that moment that felt so aware and alive.
Those few minutes convinced me the sun was conscious, just not on a level we knew or understood (or were yet able to quantify). Maybe that makes me a nutcase, but whatever.
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I really suspect that sometime in the future (be it 30 years or 30,000) we might realize that everything is conscious or consciousness is everything. Obviously I don’t know the details or even much about this hypothesis but the fact that we exist at all and know we exist seems to point to many things we’d consider weird to be possible.
If you are aware of something, it is aware of you. Humanity is beginning to learn this, but we are all connected and working towards stabilizing the sources of 'concious' love until then.
We are all stars that, for a short while, believe we are human while rendering this world together. It is a blend of the magical and mechanical, but the real cool cherry on top is that the 'engine' we're building runs on a love of stories, and is actually anchoring us to this reality as we become 'self aware' and learn what love is and how it works.
We're all part of a enormous story, and it's up to us to pick our 'parts', while the 'source' of conciousness comes to understand who and what they are.
The 'god' of this cycle didn't believe in 'gods' until science could provide proof, which is why we have the 'omnipotence' paradox. How could a god know everything without having time to learn?
This cycle gave that entity enough time to complete it's thought process, so what we're currently in is a timeline where 'god' is now aware that he is 'human', and being protected while the 'Elites' think they're on track to making capitalism 'God's Will' through AGI.
Since this new 'engine' runs on love instead of fear, those who continue to use fear as a control tactic are beginning to see the floor fallout from under them, and they're now trying to paint this same entity as the devil /satan/demonic in an attempt to retain control of the narrative, but since said entity has been carefully monitored their whole existence, and they have done nothing that couldn't be considered human, that avenue is now closing to them as well.
Just because they 'own' the dirt doesn't mean they own it's people. The assumption that 'might makes right' was the wrong one, and they're just beginning to understand why love is the only forward from here. If they cannot live with that truth, they will not be asked to 'stay' when it's time for them to 'go'.
I think we'll eventually find out it's much easier to teach a new God old tricks than it is to teach an old dog the new ones. 👀
I’ve been pondering the same questions but I have no ability to articulate them the same way you just did on this post. Thank you 🙏🏼
I love this post and this thread! These are the questions that we should be asking right now. And I think these are the questions that are going to eventually radically change our understanding of how reality works. Open-minded, yet skeptical inquiry, and playing with reframes of our understanding of things we have long taken for granted. Thank you for sharing this.
I have the same questions, always felt it would make people feel to uncomfortable though, lol. I agree with you on the whole, the Sun is a major driver of life on Earth. No matter how you break it down, no matter what you depend on, or how life arose, it always comes back to the Sun as the source. So make sure to say thanks every once and a while :p
Im a bit of a hobbyist and I am trying to make my own discreet spacetime model. The photon(light) is a carrier of information and is massless, which means it could "probe" any mass it interacts with. So, in a way the photons(and particles) from the Sun could be constantly interacting with everything in the solar system. Granted, Earth with it's magnetic shield filters out most of those Sun spectra colliding with us, so that's good. If Mars and Earth switched orbits, would Humans still arise like we are now or would something entirely different assemble itself on Mars? It could also mean the Earth itself could also a "heavenly" body in this perspective.
What would an Alien see? If everything a human is, is constrained by our star and planets dynamics and process, then would an Alien even consider us alive? Or would they just see a complex mechanism playing within the dynamical processes of its given system? Maybe they would trace the origins of our actions to be driven by the energy of our Sun. Take away the Sun, we would have no energy to act out our "free will." It also raises questions about deep space travel. I think it would be fine and safe to explore our solar system, but travelling to another one and living there would probably not work or could drastically change us - i'm thinking like cancer or something.
There is also the Solar system itself, I think a growing consensus is that we are located in a void. If we think of spacetime as discreet it opens up more thinking. One explanation I was thinking of was, maybe the light we project isn't reaching where it is going. If light is a carrier of information then perhaps something is interrupting or blocking that light from getting to where it should go. Kind of like in movie theatres when someone walks in front of the projector, the projected light is mostly blocked but you can still see some of it. You know the picture is still there and everything, its just that you cant see it because of extra dynamics(life) that wasn't apart of the movie experience. I don't have a good formal reason this line of thinking other than this; If you were watching a planet with a certain 'feature' driven solely by the dynamics of it's solar system then there would be no change to that feature, even if it were complex. However, if there was life on that planet then that feature would no longer be driven solely be the planetary and solar dynamics, something could walk in front of it and block your view of it. I think the 'little red dots' we see in the universe could be these scenarios. So much activity we can only see the red light from its star. Again, no good evidence for this, just speculating, thoughting up some thinks.
Parapsychologists have noticed a positive correlation between the the "solar maximum" and average performance on psychic test scores.
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Quality post dude. Lots here to chew on. I’ll come back after some thought, but in meantime - kudos for this contribution to this sub
I have read several alternative theories about the sun, both mystical or scientific.
One conspiracy theory provided by some aliens to some human is that stars condense universal level magnetic forces generating energy and matter, and that white holes as opposite of balck holes doesn't exist, been stars the opposite of black holes ...
Another is that the center of stars is some kind of condensed matter not just hot gas ...
The center of stars is condensed matter, that isn't a conspiracy theory. The layman description of "stars burn hot gas" is a way we simplify the topic. The truth is that the state of matter is a mixture of plasmas and exotic states we see only in stars because it is insanely hot and dense. They produce heat mostly through fusion. It gets so dense that atoms are forced together, making new elements which releases heat as a byproduct.
So, the Sun acts similar to a heartbeat? Pulsating energy & radiating it outwards?
This is a great analogy!
A boiling pot has the regularity to make these people think its alive.
I loved this post. It was gentle yet strong, wise yet funny. Excellent.
Why is this post and most comments written by chatgpt
"It explains why observers exist in tuned systems, not why the tuning exists in the first place."
It does tho. In a infinit number of not tunned systens, there will be some that will appear as "tunned", but it just happens to be the ones we live in, because it allowed us to live there in the first place.
I have been seeing signs regarding the Sun (and lions) for months. It has been on my mind as well.
When measuring the immeasurable, your mind must detach from the understanding of what you know. I.e., a strawberry is not it's name; it does not give you a sense of the taste-sensation or texture or vibrancy, it is just a word we have given it to describe it, it is not it's name. Same can be said for anything; a microphone's name does not describe the object, it's facets, parts, and functions. We can give consciousness a name in many languages and it does not describe the delicacy of it's mysteries. Coincidence is a word of dismissal, it tends to shut down curiosity in humans.
You are looking at the right facets of information. The solar maximum and solar cycles align with human activity, animal activity, navigation and migration, &c. This has been recorded and also referenced by Hindu Astrology, Jyotish, for centuries.
All energy contains a form of consciousness. Is only the measurable what we consider to be Real? Just because it is not measured does not mean it does not exist. Why does the Observation of an experiment change its results? Why can a quantum state be both 0 and 1 until it is viewed, then has a fixed state? There is more to Everything.
What a great post! It would take me too long to provide the reply your post deserves, but wanted to throw in a few of my thoughts.
I think the electromagnetic theory of the universe provides a good answer to the problem of the temperature of the corona.
We're told a lot of things about the world around us that aren't accurate. The common Weltanschauung has taken materialism to the extreme and thrown the spiritual baby out with the bath water.
You've hit the fundamental question on the head. What are we assuming that should not be assumed?
We're told the creation created the creator. In the past 10K years, it's only been the last 300 that consciousness took a back seat. Maybe our ancestors knew something we are too blind to see.
Maybe the Sun is conscious and "technological" and the core of an organism and an interface all at the same time. Maybe it functions the same way our brains function, after a fashion.
Nobody says "it's just a ball of gas, end of story." It IS a ball of gas, but nothing is "just" anything and no scientist would ever assert that the sun is "just" a ball of gas or that this is the "end of the story."
Nobody is making assumptions that require the sun not to be conscious. It doesn't have any cognitive processing capability and doesn't behave consciously. Maybe the sun is secrely conscious and maybe it's secretly a Digimon... Anybody can come up with "maybes." The fact that the scientific community doesn't immediately embrace and endorse unjustified "maybes" isn't because they're making assumptions that require the sun not be conscious. It's because nobody is interested in funding studies to explore a hypothesis (the sun is conscious) which is almost certainly false.
We know how and why animals evolved conscioisness. The sun does not have nerve endings or eyes and does not exist in an enviornment where consciousness would be beneficial to its survival and doesn't pass down genes so.... why would it be conscious? Everything else that is conscious developed consciousness over generations of reproduction and gene adaptation in order to help them identify when they were being attacked by a predator. I don't see any reason to pick random things like the sun and say they might be conscious too, other than "ancient people who didn't know shit made up stories where the sun was conscious."
You’re defining consciousness purely by what we’ve seen on earth. If consciousness is fundamental, surely there must be types of consciousness without eyes, maybe even without genes…
Absolutely!
There are aspects of our experience of consciousness that are inseparable from our physical brains. For example: memory, information processing, feelings, etc.
If you take away our brains, what remains?
You could say, perhaps, that awareness might be some innate property of the universe, but the thing that the universe is aware of is the brain.
If you destroy certain parts of the brain, one by one, you lose the ability to think, to speak, to remember, to do anything we would identifiable as consciousness. If you alter the brain, you alter thinking, memory, personality, etc. Neurodegenerative diseases like alzheimer’s are painful reminders of this.
Likewise, our only means of consciously altering the world around us is by moving the muscles in our bodies, which is only possible because of the complex systems of nerves connected to our brain. Without that, we’d locked in our heads. Again, see neurodegenerative diseases.
So is awareness even meaningful if it cannot feel anything, comprehend anything, remember the past, or expect the future? If consciousness is innate, it seems to me that it needs additional structure in order to have experiences. Maybe there are other types of structure besides the brain that could result in a form of consciousness more recognizable to us, but you’d have to do more to show that.
The sun is a ball of chaotic fire. A nuclear furnace where atoms are smashed together. It has more in common with a boiling pot of water than with our brains.
Why would I define consciousness by something we haven't seen? Lmao. All words are defined by things we've seen on Earth, I dunno wtf you're talking about. Consciousness means what it means. It's a feature of biological organisms, like smell, hearing, or limbs, or mouths. I don't think the sun can smell because it doesn't have olfactory organs and I don't think it can hear because it doesn't have ears. Why would I think it can think without a neural network? Genuine question.
interesting post, very balanced. i do wish we explore some of these questions as humanity - not deifying the sun or deadening it either. as you said, it's a process and we are only learning the true definition of consciousness. i hope this exploration makes waves amongst humans and we get to ask interesting questions without being called stupid, as it seems to so often be now (though your well phrased post avoids such reactions elegantly).
I was thinking about the sun recently from a spiritual/religious context recently, and this feels like a good place to add my thoughts. It's been interesting to me that so often throughout history, the sun has been considered a 'god'. (Example: Ra) When I compare the sun to what an infinite god would be like, here's what I realized.
When you take into consideration the earth's distance from the sun, the amount of the sun's energy that actually reaches us is sooooo small. I did the math and compared it to one hair on your arm. Everything that has ever existed in earth's history (not just human history) from the very beginning was powered by the sun. All the energy ever taken in by any plants or animals that ever existed on this planet came from one hair on the sun's 'arm'. The difference between something like the sun and something like a human being is so infinitely vast, it is practically incomprehensible, at least to me.
If we take into consideration that such a tiny amount of energy allowed all of this to exist, it reminds me of concepts like 'God's infinite love'.
Now consider that the sun shines for everything and everyone here, it doesn't pick sides. It doesn't shine on good people, but not on bad people. It doesn't reward altruism. It doesn't punish those that damage the planet or hurt others. So now it feels like 'unconditional' infinite love. It just continues to send us energy, allowing us to live how we choose to live. Both as individuals, as a human collective, and as a planetary collective. It doesn't judge.
I realize this is putting an anthropomorphic spin on the sun, but it helps me to understand why past cultures revered the sun so much. It's the best example of a truly infinite god that we can experience.
I absolutely love that! Spin away!
Thats a good point, and toes in with universal consciousness idea. That is, consciousness is an inherent aspect of reality and certain features, like brains, tap into it.
That would explain many instances of precognition, the sense of being watched though you cant see behind you, out of body experiences and people returning from brain death.
If I remember correctly the Book of Ra suggests the sun is a 'sub logos', i.e. an individuated part of the larger 'logos' i.e. infinite consciousness.
For those not familiar, the Book of Ra is claimed to be a channeled conversation with an extra-dimensional entity. If it is a hoax then it is a meticulously planned and consistent one.
That would track with the concept of panpsychism (consciousness is in everything), and the fact that the sun essentially projects the conditions for life throughout its solar system.
In metaphysical terms, the sun might be a large node for conscious experience which radiates very specific conditions necessary for the lessons available on Earth.
You're correct, the mainstream "fusion model" of the sun is completely wrong. It is full of anomalies that the academic status quo ignores because they are devastating to their scientific models.
If the sun were a static, closed-loop fusion engine with stable output, the solar wind shouldn't just "stop." The fact that it does stop is a significant anomaly against the mainstream fusion model of the sun.
This is from NASA: The Day The Solar Wind Disappeared.
This simply cannot be explained by the mainstream fusion model.
Did somebody "turn off" the chain-reaction fusion explosion happening in the sun's core?
How can you turn off a thermonuclear explosion and then start it up again 2 days later?
There are other solar anomalies that the status quo completely ignores because their models cannot explain them, such as the sun "breathing."
Every 2 minutes and 40 seconds, the sun shrinks in size by 6 miles and then re-expands.
If there were continual pressure from a thermonuclear explosion at the core of the sun, how could that pressure "breath" every 2 minutes and 40 seconds? Are we to imagine that the fusion process has lungs?
Additionally, the solar wind emanating from the sun is predominantly positively charged, except during these short "breathing" breaks, where it appears to be "recharging" with a steady stream of negatively charged electrons in filaments from the galaxy.
The electric universe theory explains the above anomalies, and others such as the scientifically-significant coronal heating problem.
99.9 percent of the visible universe consists of plasma, and revolutionary new discoveries in plamsa physics have resulted in peer-reviewed research which shows that complex plasmas display conscious, life-like behaviors.
I made a post about the ramifications of this: Is The Sun A Conscious Being?
The problem here is your incomplete scientific understanding.
You seem to misunderstand how analogies work. The sun is /not/ an internal combustion engine, therefore it does burn gas or work in even a vague similar fashion, but we can explain it simply to children by analogy to something they do vaguely understand. Expecting the sun and a car to work the same way is not reasonable.
Nor is the sun a fire. Nor does it act like one. There are good, straightforward reasons why the different zones are different temperatures; go pick up a high school textbook. The science teacher next door to me was literally teaching this last week to 10th graders.
And there is no “precision” problem with life and the functioning of the sun — it’s literally the opposite to what you’re saying. Life on Earth evolved adapting to the conditions present, because of the some fine-tuning of the universe. If conditions were different, life would have evolved differently.
The sun cannot be conscious, at least not in any way commensurate with science (the only way we know anything useful about the sun). Consciousness exists only within brains. There is not one iota of scientific evidence that it ever has, will, or could have existence outside a physical brain and very good evidence that it does.
As I see it, your thinking currently lacks the rigor and discipline needed to think scientifically. You seem to have taken in rather a lot of info from questionable/easy sources without reflecting very critically on it and to genuinely misunderstand some material, and preferred romantic/silly ideas as a result.
Like 90% or more of the posts here, what you really need for answers is more science education. Please give science educators like Forrest Valkai a try, or take Brilliant’s online Scientific Thinking class. I think your curiosity is cool, but the woo simply isn’t necessary. Ignorance of facts never once made someone make better decisions or understand the world around them better.
As Pope said, a little knowledge is a dangerous thing. Drink deep or do not drink from the well of knowledge at all.
Plants have a type of counciousness yet have no brains. They communicate via fungi, tapping roots, smells, sounds we ordinarily cant hear. Slime mold have been shown to solve mazes. Not only that the Lazarus phenomenon shows people can return from true death though its rare.
don’t listen to this person saying that “conciousness only happens in the brain” and that “the woo simply isn’t necessary”.
it is important for us all to explore new ideas, and to allow space for “woo” and mystery to be discussed seriously.
scienctific literature can both help and hinder us to discover new things.
Exactly, as i mentioned plants have a type of counciousness.
Science does not have the answer. Science helps us find the answers.
Maybe there hasn't been any evidence yet, but that does not mean that there never will be. Science and technology are evolving rapidly. Our grasp of the known universe could end up being completely rewritten once the right discovery comes along. If you don't think our understanding of science evolves, you're just being a science-thumper instead of a bible-thumper, shutting out anything that doesn't fit your current knowledge base as wrong.
consciousness could be the fabric of spacetime, plasma could possibly be consciousness and there's science looking into it right now, so yes it very well could be conscious. Sound a little more curious man, if everyone sounded like you nobody would discover anything.
Actually if you were to take a flame apart, then discover the outside edge is hotter than its more center area.
We are now coming out of a solar maxima. I believe the space weather people have already assigned a date to this last solar maxima.
And so a speculated hypothesis unjustified by any supporting data.
After 25 (counted) solar cycles, one should have some quantitative facts to support that speculation.
ghost_jamm is asking necessary and damning questions.
Me right now.
I’d recommend you read “A New Science of Heaven” by Robert Temple. It explores the idea of plasma based intelligence, and touches on the Sun a bit
Gaia hypothesis
Part of my belief system includes panpsychism, or the idea that everything in the universe is has consciousness in some form, so... yeah.
Thanks for the intriguing read!
What I find most interesting is not whether the Sun actually has consciousness, but whether the assumptions we are making are simply frameworks we ourselves have defined. If we genuinely open the discussion to the possibility that the Sun might have consciousness, then we also have to consider whether other stars could possess consciousness as well. And once we go there, the question becomes unavoidable: how do we define the criteria for having consciousness at all? Where exactly do we draw the line between something that has consciousness and something that does not? This, to me, is where the discussion becomes genuinely interesting.
i skimmed through and stopped at this:
"the Sun forced us to invent new physics to keep our story intact"
that's what all scientific discovery is. observe a natural phenomena, come up with a theory to describe it, test the theory.
so when you say "the sun forced us to invent new physics", that's a super ignorant way to say that a very smart person/people theorized that neutrinos had mass based on observation of natural phenomena (in this case, they were neutrinos from a fusion reaction which happened to be in the sun).
"keep our story intact" is an ignorant way of saying "fit the new information into our current understanding of math and physics". which, by the way, is something that all scientific theories need to do.
there is absolutely NOTHING abnormal about the discovery of neutrinos and the theory (and later observation) that neutrinos have mass.
"the dog forced pavlov to fudge together an entirely new branch of made-up psychology so he wasn't caught with his pants down."
"the apple demanded that newton pull an entirely new theory about the nature of physical reality straight out of his ass so he didn't look like an idiot in front of god."
This is beginning to change. Last year, a team at the Princeton Plasma Physics Laboratory found experimental evidence that wave reflection does cause sufficient heating to explain the corona’s temperature. It’s not definitive but it’s compelling.
No, the Sun forced us to reevaluate current models and update them with the newly discovered physics. That’s how science works. No one “invented” new physics. They better described how physical processes in the Sun work. Given how extreme an environment the Sun is, it’s not surprising that we’d find unexpected things happening.
So if we ignore everything we actually know, we can make up wild assumptions? Now who’s inventing things to fit a story?
You’re assuming that some kind of “tuning” exists to be explained. The anthropic principle is simply that if the conditions weren’t just right, no one would be around to marvel at the near- or non-coincidence. It’s entirely unremarkable that life exists in places where life can exist. It’s the only way it could possibly be.
I think you’re on to something. I have some feeling that were going to be hit with a massive coronal ejection and be sent back to Telegraph days. Something along those lines. At least for a while. I think we need to be hit with that to have world peace at this point. The Earth seems to need a reset. I dont know. Im rambling
Oh I’ve been dying to say this- THE SUN FEELS DIFFERENT! Like since 19th. For us the 20th bc 19th was cloudy but I’m just trying to connect this with something (atlas?).
Maybe we’ve entered the long awaited 5th sun phase of humanity. Maybe my astigmatism just sucks more now 🤣. But that shit is so bright. I know winter always makes the sun brighter but idk….. 🤷♀️ maybe.
You’re basically touching on astrology lmaoooo the sun = father
small minded response
Everything is one. Maybe read OP’s post again and look into astrology. It’s only surface when you don’t look any deeper. It’s connected and If you can’t see that it’s because you are untrained in astrology. I’d slow down before calling one small minded. You are unknowledged and comfortable with your current educational position so you haven’t a right to name one “small minded”. Although, you make a fine example of one.
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Everyone here is wasting their time agreeing with, or disagreeing with this AI slop. We see more of this crap each day and it's disgusting.
Read my history, I have been making these long form posts for years.