This is happening all over the world, but apparently, it's quite bad in the UK because of various factors colliding.
In some Asian countries such as Japan, it seems to have hit and peaked earlier, leading to school and class closures.
The most frustrating part is that, of course, there appears to be next to no public health education about this at all.
The 3 big factors (mask up, get your vaccinations, stay home when sick) are not being emphasized at all.
Japan does those three as a standard and honestly the disruption has been minimal. My kids stayed home for a week , classes were a bit empty for about ten days and ...that's it .
This is all in the middle of a huge back to office push as well.
Just get fucking vaccinated and mask up ffs. It's not hard.
People wear masks and you get a few absences. I don't hear about the whole health service collapsing though haha
that's because it doesn't get to that point in the first place, big companies do the jabs in house, mine has over 5000 employees and we can all get vaccinated on site on a work day for like 3 days or so in a row. its government suggested and they do it. why? cause they save on time and cost, lost work hours...you can even bring your immediate family (wife, kids) and its all done in like 15 minutes.
dont wanna do it onsite (or cant for whatever reason) then local GPs will nearly all do it, you just need to check on the letter your local council (type thing) sends MONTHS in advance for which ones will do it , start and end dates and register. again, a 15 minute job AND if you are doing it at say your regular kids pediatrician that same doctor will do the parents jabs as well at the same time to save time and a slot on someone else.
none of this is difficult, christ you dont even need an infrastructure other than mail and vax distribution approved lists, its ALL voluntary and nearly everyone just does it cause why the fuck not ? like do the not realize how miserable kids get when sick? how disruption to work and quality time all that nonsense brings? oh right. no, they are idiots.
It's not just the UK ..I lived there for a long long time. But I swear people have gotten dumber and just believe to any kind of nonsense especially since social media. It used to be kinda funny and interesting to follow conspiracies (JFK, Roswell, bermuda triangle ..) it was almost like alternate history but now??? Fucking hell, it's become a whole stupidass identity
If only there was some sort of simple covering we could put over the mouth and nose to reduce transmission and a simple injection that could improve immunity to flu?
I agree that this is ridiculous in most places, but I watch Japanese news on the daily and can definitely say that they regularly recommend masking in addition to vaccination and handwashing, and it's refreshingly common to see masks all over the place in coverage. The majority of people aren't wearing them, no, but on street footage, you'll see roughly 10% of people masked just crossing the street.
In contrast, I'm in the US and almost never see anyone masked. I still do whenever indoors outside of my home and haven't been sick in years; highly recommended.
The NHS issued a message saying "masks continue to be a useful tool in limiting the spread of respiratory viruses in some situations" and advised people to think about doing so if they are ill.
Opposition leader (Conservative Party) Kemi Badenoch responded by railing against "mask mandates" (NHS issued a suggestion, not a mandate) and went on to say she is "still slightly traumatised by all the mask-wearing that we had to do during Covid".
Learned less than nothing. Here in Alberta, Canada it was over $400 to get covid boosters for 3 of us. Fuck the poor I guess. I had a surgery, so haven’t had mine yet. Thank god I had the operation before this hit. We have an openly antivax provincial government. Freedom to die like a medieval peasant.
American here. Is that normal? Our health system is supremely fucked up (my health insurance is $1530 a month and has deductibles up the wazoo) but one of the few bright spots is pretty much all the common vaccines are zero - assuming I’ve forked over a pile of money for insurance
Just happened this year. Our Premier, Danielle Smith, is a skilled politician. She can twist any argument to her narrative, at least enough to keep her supporters on side. She spun it that a lot of Albertans don’t want vaccines and many went to waste last year, thus contributing to government spending wasted. She wants to privatize everything, classic free market libertarian type and people here, especially rural folks, buy right in.
Might have to move. I came to Alberta from Saskatchewan for better opportunities after high school. Now Premiers in both provinces have openly talked about chem trails in the last year or so. I honestly can’t believe how stupid people are. That’s pure demagoguery. Absolutely unforgivable in my view.
As an American, you have no idea how complicated it is. Co-pays, co-insurance, deductibles, in-network/out-of-network, prior authorization. There’s a reason there is a free Luigi crowd that is not a minority.
I also just got a bill for $700 for an MRI and $160 for an eye exam. Lot of people just dropping health insurance this year and saying “fuck it, sue me” when they need care.
She wants to privatize healthcare, so she and her corrupt cronies can profit. Tommy Douglas is rolling over in his grave. I have zero problem paying my fair share for universal healthcare.
Have no fear, SK will be right beside AB next year in having residents pay for their booster. Scootch is just monitoring citizen outrage (or lack thereof) before signing on.
People in our area are refusing to wear masks because apparently it's a form of control and it's just a bad cold. They don't believe in a "superflu" but do believe in "turbo cancers" from vaccines.... however, because the police will be trialling facial recognition cameras this week, a lot of them are saying they're going to start wearing a mask...
It's so weird. It's like having "a bad cold" was somehow more fun than not having it. Heck, even regular tiny cold can cause nasty secondary illnesses, which are not fun. (On my 3rd week of a nasty sinusitis from a slight cold. Antibiotics didn't do anything, and now I'm waiting for an specialist appointment for a sinus puncture. Such fun, especially because I've been dead tired the whole time.)
I luckily was invited for the jab earlier in the year. But I was trying to help a friend get one, and there are zero appointments available on the NHS or privately anywhere remotely near us. What are we supposed to do to help prevent it when the recommended action to take isn't made possible?
I live in the UK. Long story short, I had to take my son to NYC and pay $250 to get his Covid booster. I got his flu jag the same day in October for another $50. The in school flu vaccines didn’t happen til late November when the local hospital was already beginning to struggle.
They made it way too difficult to get vaccinated and this is the result.
The current UK prime minister is a spineless turd who is busy pandering to the increasingly loud right wing voice who are rattling on about immigration. Since these are the same group that would also start rioting at the suggestion that we should do something to protect other people then the government are unfortunately keeping very quiet while hospitals pile up and people die unnecessarily
Tbf the distance between the NHS and the brink was already razor-thin. Politicians have spent years slashing money for public healthcare while allowing private practices to cherry-pick the most profitable patients and then send them back to NHS care if there are complications.
This is happening all over the world, but apparently, it's quite bad in the UK because of various factors colliding.
In some Asian countries such as Japan, it seems to have hit and peaked earlier, leading to school and class closures.
The most frustrating part is that, of course, there appears to be next to no public health education about this at all.
The 3 big factors (mask up, get your vaccinations, stay home when sick) are not being emphasized at all.
We've tried nuttin' and we're all out of ideas.
Don't you mean 'We learned nothing from the pandemic and are all out of ideas'?
Oh WE learned our lesson—me, I updated my flu, Covid vaccines, in clinical trial for “universal” flu vaccine, still mask up in public
It’s the evil minded hicks who run this country either haven’t learned the lesson of one million deaths from Covid, or don’t give a shit about it
By now it's like people intentionally don't cover their mouth while coughing and sneezing.
Japan does those three as a standard and honestly the disruption has been minimal. My kids stayed home for a week , classes were a bit empty for about ten days and ...that's it .
This is all in the middle of a huge back to office push as well.
Just get fucking vaccinated and mask up ffs. It's not hard.
Right.
We've got the same thing ravaging Korea - fairly sure I had it a few weeks ago, and it wasn't nice.
People wear masks and you get a few absences. I don't hear about the whole health service collapsing though haha
People wear masks and you get a few absences. I don't hear about the whole health service collapsing though haha
that's because it doesn't get to that point in the first place, big companies do the jabs in house, mine has over 5000 employees and we can all get vaccinated on site on a work day for like 3 days or so in a row. its government suggested and they do it. why? cause they save on time and cost, lost work hours...you can even bring your immediate family (wife, kids) and its all done in like 15 minutes.
dont wanna do it onsite (or cant for whatever reason) then local GPs will nearly all do it, you just need to check on the letter your local council (type thing) sends MONTHS in advance for which ones will do it , start and end dates and register. again, a 15 minute job AND if you are doing it at say your regular kids pediatrician that same doctor will do the parents jabs as well at the same time to save time and a slot on someone else.
none of this is difficult, christ you dont even need an infrastructure other than mail and vax distribution approved lists, its ALL voluntary and nearly everyone just does it cause why the fuck not ? like do the not realize how miserable kids get when sick? how disruption to work and quality time all that nonsense brings? oh right. no, they are idiots.
No, because freedumbz. 🙄
People in this country (UK) are thick and ignorant. You’d get stares and comments if you wore a mask…
It's not just the UK ..I lived there for a long long time. But I swear people have gotten dumber and just believe to any kind of nonsense especially since social media. It used to be kinda funny and interesting to follow conspiracies (JFK, Roswell, bermuda triangle ..) it was almost like alternate history but now??? Fucking hell, it's become a whole stupidass identity
If only there was some sort of simple covering we could put over the mouth and nose to reduce transmission and a simple injection that could improve immunity to flu?
I don't know, we all stumped!
I agree that this is ridiculous in most places, but I watch Japanese news on the daily and can definitely say that they regularly recommend masking in addition to vaccination and handwashing, and it's refreshingly common to see masks all over the place in coverage. The majority of people aren't wearing them, no, but on street footage, you'll see roughly 10% of people masked just crossing the street.
In contrast, I'm in the US and almost never see anyone masked. I still do whenever indoors outside of my home and haven't been sick in years; highly recommended.
Must be nice to be able to afford to stay home from work when sick and also still have a job after.
Do what you gotta do. Those with the luxury should use it though.
this is the case mostly everywhere in the world outside of america and very poor countries
What do you need nuttin’ on to help?
Stupid beatnick parents...
So you're saying dying by vaccination is betterer????
/s
The NHS issued a message saying "masks continue to be a useful tool in limiting the spread of respiratory viruses in some situations" and advised people to think about doing so if they are ill.
Opposition leader (Conservative Party) Kemi Badenoch responded by railing against "mask mandates" (NHS issued a suggestion, not a mandate) and went on to say she is "still slightly traumatised by all the mask-wearing that we had to do during Covid".
The poor dear. /s So infuriatingly disappointing. Power at any cost. Morally bankrupt politicians.
ICE are really setting an example with their mask wearing.
Learned less than nothing. Here in Alberta, Canada it was over $400 to get covid boosters for 3 of us. Fuck the poor I guess. I had a surgery, so haven’t had mine yet. Thank god I had the operation before this hit. We have an openly antivax provincial government. Freedom to die like a medieval peasant.
Free in BC and not a lot of people getting it. I had mine at the same time as my flu shot.
I'm not in Canada, but the the covid booster jumped to almost $300 PER PERSON in my region.
No, I cannot afford that.
Or how we had to order our vaccines for next year already? So confusing.
Where are you being charged $400 for a Covid booster? It’s free in Ontario
Over $400 for 3 people. Calgary
American here. Is that normal? Our health system is supremely fucked up (my health insurance is $1530 a month and has deductibles up the wazoo) but one of the few bright spots is pretty much all the common vaccines are zero - assuming I’ve forked over a pile of money for insurance
Just happened this year. Our Premier, Danielle Smith, is a skilled politician. She can twist any argument to her narrative, at least enough to keep her supporters on side. She spun it that a lot of Albertans don’t want vaccines and many went to waste last year, thus contributing to government spending wasted. She wants to privatize everything, classic free market libertarian type and people here, especially rural folks, buy right in.
Glad I live in British Columbia.
Might have to move. I came to Alberta from Saskatchewan for better opportunities after high school. Now Premiers in both provinces have openly talked about chem trails in the last year or so. I honestly can’t believe how stupid people are. That’s pure demagoguery. Absolutely unforgivable in my view.
Damn I thought our Doug Ford is a huge moron. I guess Albertans have it worse.
My nephew worked in Healthcare in Saskatchewan. He only lasted 2 years before moving back to BC.
Amen! I topped up on so many shots this fall: measles booster, covid, flu, and tetanus. All free and easily arranged.
As a Canadian, $1 500 a month for health insurance is insane!
As an American, you have no idea how complicated it is. Co-pays, co-insurance, deductibles, in-network/out-of-network, prior authorization. There’s a reason there is a free Luigi crowd that is not a minority.
Oh man! That's awful!
It truly does my head in at how expensive and complex it is!
I also just got a bill for $700 for an MRI and $160 for an eye exam. Lot of people just dropping health insurance this year and saying “fuck it, sue me” when they need care.
They got your money, they don’t want to pay out lol.
Vaccine is the obvious money saver
I mean profit keeper
It's $212ish with no insurance in the US. $174 if CVS takes pity on you and puts in a coupon.
Jesus. I never thought about it. Crazy.
Yep. Bless the coupon lol.
UK here, its £80+ per vaccine, and we are a £30k/year household.
I guess you guys should give Danielle a call since I sure she’s to blame for universal health care costing the patient money.
She wants to privatize healthcare, so she and her corrupt cronies can profit. Tommy Douglas is rolling over in his grave. I have zero problem paying my fair share for universal healthcare.
To all the Albertan’s complaining about this, a majority (slim majority) voted for this and now is the find out part of your decisions. Enjoy!
Up yours. I didn’t vote for this crap and fully intend on exercising my right to criticize it.
If you didn’t vote for it, why are you up set at me when my comments are directed to the voters that did vote for it.
I feel bad for the people like you that didn’t vote for her clown politics and now have to deal with it.
If that’s what you meant I take it back. But from what I’ve seen the fools who voted for her would never complain about anything she does.
They will never admit fault because it’s always someone else’s fault. When you live in denial, I guess it’s easy.
Maybe the recount will boot her out and she will lose her majority.
They just said, Alberta.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/covid-vaccine-alberta-cost-1.7616207
Alberta charging $100 per covid booster.
Have no fear, SK will be right beside AB next year in having residents pay for their booster. Scootch is just monitoring citizen outrage (or lack thereof) before signing on.
150$ in Quebec, unless you are elderly or have a preexisting medical condition; then it's free.
It was $440 to be exact.
I have it free because I work in a hospital. But I am also at a very high risk because I work in a hospital.
We’re getting closer to leaders who say we need viruses to build our immune systems.
RFK jr just thinks they don’t exist.
Maybe not him, but the bed will be shat once we get people in charge that say just that.
People in our area are refusing to wear masks because apparently it's a form of control and it's just a bad cold. They don't believe in a "superflu" but do believe in "turbo cancers" from vaccines.... however, because the police will be trialling facial recognition cameras this week, a lot of them are saying they're going to start wearing a mask...
It's so weird. It's like having "a bad cold" was somehow more fun than not having it. Heck, even regular tiny cold can cause nasty secondary illnesses, which are not fun. (On my 3rd week of a nasty sinusitis from a slight cold. Antibiotics didn't do anything, and now I'm waiting for an specialist appointment for a sinus puncture. Such fun, especially because I've been dead tired the whole time.)
I luckily was invited for the jab earlier in the year. But I was trying to help a friend get one, and there are zero appointments available on the NHS or privately anywhere remotely near us. What are we supposed to do to help prevent it when the recommended action to take isn't made possible?
I live in the UK. Long story short, I had to take my son to NYC and pay $250 to get his Covid booster. I got his flu jag the same day in October for another $50. The in school flu vaccines didn’t happen til late November when the local hospital was already beginning to struggle.
They made it way too difficult to get vaccinated and this is the result.
I mask around people. High quality, head strap.
Wear a mask! Ffs especially if you work in a hospital or school.
Just stop the tests. Problem solved. /s
The current UK prime minister is a spineless turd who is busy pandering to the increasingly loud right wing voice who are rattling on about immigration. Since these are the same group that would also start rioting at the suggestion that we should do something to protect other people then the government are unfortunately keeping very quiet while hospitals pile up and people die unnecessarily
Tbf the distance between the NHS and the brink was already razor-thin. Politicians have spent years slashing money for public healthcare while allowing private practices to cherry-pick the most profitable patients and then send them back to NHS care if there are complications.