It fits with the christo-fash worldview that it's better for tons of people to die than to accept anyone different being able to live and even thrive if they're "impure" in their eyes.
They've realized they don't need to pretend to care about children anymore and thus they're now obsessed with "purifying" society by any means. It lines with what conservatives (formerly the right wing of both parties before they've abandoned Democrats in favor of hijacking a mostly neoliberal Republican party because they didn't explicitly forgo appealing to racists/eugenicists) have done to state level education institutions and how they're willing to pull all the stops on collapsing the US if that's what it takes to "wipe the slate clean" and burn it all down.
Also if people are more at risk of dying and they see death at younger ages they’ll start to think more about what happens after death, and that’s a big evangelical talking point
Are those people saying all vaccines? Are we going to ignore the idiots on the left over the years or are we just focusing on the idiots on the right? I wonder if this stuff will ever end. I will never understand giving idiots so much attention just to play political games. Everyone involved is ridiculous. There is no real scoreboard.
Well, I don't know if you are aware... But the "right" is in power currently and they decided that a man that doesn't believe in GERMS is the appropriate and best qualified "person" to make health decisions for the entire country.
Hey moron, try actually reading the damn news for once; insurance premiums are going up threefold so people can't even afford to have health insurance at all. All pushed and signed by republicans.
And they've also implemented only certain groups can qualify for the covid vaccine, thus making it harder to get.
Is that not 'detrimental to health in ways that people no longer have any control over'?
If you're just sea-lioning and not stupid then okay.
It's already mentioned this man doesn't believe in germs, has contributed to the CDC website saying vaccines do have a possibility to cause autism, which is impossible, the tylenol causes autism fiasco, claiming covid shots kill people directly and significantly playing up any sort of side effect even benign ones, etc.
Alongside examples I've just given already; his impacts from being in the position he is are innumerable and blatantly damaging to people's health.
What specifically is he responsible for implementing, passing, removing, adding, etc.? I am genuinely asking. I know there were some food additives that were already banned in most of Western Europe.
This is the way. CDC may issue ‘recommendations’ via the ACIP, but it’s still states that set requirements based on that. Sucks for people stuck in red states, of course.
You think United Health Care is still going to reimburse for vaccinations in any state if the schedule is “against CDC guidance” ? Say goodbye to herd immunity
Hospitals themselves may be unwilling to administer against schedule because in the extremely rare case something does go wrong, is some enterprising lawyer going to see a huge medical malpractice lawsuit with the primary argument being drugs were administered against CDC schedule?
They still serve sugar syrup fruit cups to T2 diabetics in hospitals due the fact it’s cheaper and they can get away with it since they follow national dietary standards.
Our entire society functions on the concept of “I can trust the amount of gas coming out of the gas pump matches what’s on the meter”, these kinds of things basically threaten that concept and are very serious.
Hospital vaccine person here: we are ignoring the fake CDC goofballs at this time with all vaccines and following the old way.
Also, we do not serve sugared products like you mentioned to diabetics in distress, however we can't prevent their dumb families from bringing them a giant 64 oz soda either.
I have many reasons to think the worst of UHC, and I know first hand how slimy they can be in denying whatever they can get away with.
That said, a phone call to my state AG was quite effective in getting them to ‘see reason’ (eg do their fucking job) more than once, so nice to know state laws still have some teeth.
Agreed but so far health insurance companies have recognized that paying for vaccines is a hell of a lot cheaper than paying for what happens without vaccines. I worry a lot more about Trump + GOP undoing the no pre-existing conditions and free preventive care parts of the ACA instead.
For vaccines? Yes they’ll pay. Cheaper than paying for hospitalizations. It’s just like I’ve never had issues with insurance paying for birth control, pregnancy is expensive to cover health-wise
That’s the part that really stands out. These morons think Doctors and other experts blindly follow the guidelines, so if they just change the guidelines then pediatricians will blindly follow the new guidelines. No. They followed the guidelines because there was good science behind them before.
Even here in Tennessee our pediatrician has said they and most other practices they know will flat out ignore anything the Trump administration is doing.
Wouldn’t that be so ironic if, as a result, just the right suffered fatalities because of this? There should be a Reddit page for this kind of irony - oh wait…
This is the right way, but unfortunately I assume insurance won't cover anything because they'll fall back on CDC guidelines as a way to not pay for vaccines. I hope that's not at all the case but I figure if they can find a way out of paying, they will.
This government will do anything and everything to prevent that. And before you say, "they can't do that, its illegal", they've already shown that they don't care and will do it anyway. Who is stopping them?
Sadly sales of baby coffins peaked in the US in 2022 and 2023. Take from that what you want.
Given the prevalence of the GOP's determination and the many like minded parents aided by JFK Jr, we are likely to see another resurgence in said sales. Utterly tragic and unnecessary.
If I were an enemy of the US, say the President of Russia for instance, I would definitely look for ways to cull its population of children. This would be one of the most obvious methods.
No wonder they want women out of the workplace: someone's gonna need to be shitting out more kids to make up the loss to childhood diseases or the Great Replacement boogeyman will kill western civilization.
I just understand this. Like im not naive and I know there is a grift in it somwhere. But...wheres the money? How are they making cash out of killing kids? Dont they realise if there are less people there are less workers for thier shitty little factories?? im just tired man
You'll find a lot of conspiratorial theories about the true agenda of antivax people, but I believe the answer is very simple: They really are that stupid.
Steadily working their way towards banning vaccines entirely.
And, increasing mortality and decreasing life-expectancy.
Only a matter of time before they start to use the “Mortality rates declined before vaccines because of sanitation, plumbing, and nutrition” argument.
Yeah, until they eff up those things as well...oh wait, they already are.
For example, drinking raw milk.
They are known as the party of death for a reason
That’s one way to make social security solvent
It fits with the christo-fash worldview that it's better for tons of people to die than to accept anyone different being able to live and even thrive if they're "impure" in their eyes.
They've realized they don't need to pretend to care about children anymore and thus they're now obsessed with "purifying" society by any means. It lines with what conservatives (formerly the right wing of both parties before they've abandoned Democrats in favor of hijacking a mostly neoliberal Republican party because they didn't explicitly forgo appealing to racists/eugenicists) have done to state level education institutions and how they're willing to pull all the stops on collapsing the US if that's what it takes to "wipe the slate clean" and burn it all down.
I prefer the term Nationalist Christian or Nat-C for short.
Also if people are more at risk of dying and they see death at younger ages they’ll start to think more about what happens after death, and that’s a big evangelical talking point
No they aren’t. Where did it say anything like that?
Some Republicans have gone on record saying that vaccines should be banned. Not all, but it is a growing movement within the conservative community.
Are those people saying all vaccines? Are we going to ignore the idiots on the left over the years or are we just focusing on the idiots on the right? I wonder if this stuff will ever end. I will never understand giving idiots so much attention just to play political games. Everyone involved is ridiculous. There is no real scoreboard.
Well, I don't know if you are aware... But the "right" is in power currently and they decided that a man that doesn't believe in GERMS is the appropriate and best qualified "person" to make health decisions for the entire country.
What changes have been implemented that are detrimental to your health that you no longer have any control over?
Hey moron, try actually reading the damn news for once; insurance premiums are going up threefold so people can't even afford to have health insurance at all. All pushed and signed by republicans.
And they've also implemented only certain groups can qualify for the covid vaccine, thus making it harder to get.
Is that not 'detrimental to health in ways that people no longer have any control over'?
If you're just sea-lioning and not stupid then okay.
What does that have to do with Kennedy?
Oh cool, you're just sea-lioning.
It's already mentioned this man doesn't believe in germs, has contributed to the CDC website saying vaccines do have a possibility to cause autism, which is impossible, the tylenol causes autism fiasco, claiming covid shots kill people directly and significantly playing up any sort of side effect even benign ones, etc.
Alongside examples I've just given already; his impacts from being in the position he is are innumerable and blatantly damaging to people's health.
What specifically is he responsible for implementing, passing, removing, adding, etc.? I am genuinely asking. I know there were some food additives that were already banned in most of Western Europe.
You mean the guy who says that the polio vaccine is worse than polio? That guy?
Yes all vaccines.
We're going to ignore them in California and continue using pre-2024 CDC guidance.
This is the way. CDC may issue ‘recommendations’ via the ACIP, but it’s still states that set requirements based on that. Sucks for people stuck in red states, of course.
You think United Health Care is still going to reimburse for vaccinations in any state if the schedule is “against CDC guidance” ? Say goodbye to herd immunity
Hospitals themselves may be unwilling to administer against schedule because in the extremely rare case something does go wrong, is some enterprising lawyer going to see a huge medical malpractice lawsuit with the primary argument being drugs were administered against CDC schedule?
They still serve sugar syrup fruit cups to T2 diabetics in hospitals due the fact it’s cheaper and they can get away with it since they follow national dietary standards.
Our entire society functions on the concept of “I can trust the amount of gas coming out of the gas pump matches what’s on the meter”, these kinds of things basically threaten that concept and are very serious.
Speaking as someone who has United as an insurance provider, denial rates went WAY down after a certain incident almost one year ago.
<dark humor> It's almost like their leadership took something away from that other than a corpse. </dark humor>
Hospital vaccine person here: we are ignoring the fake CDC goofballs at this time with all vaccines and following the old way.
Also, we do not serve sugared products like you mentioned to diabetics in distress, however we can't prevent their dumb families from bringing them a giant 64 oz soda either.
I have many reasons to think the worst of UHC, and I know first hand how slimy they can be in denying whatever they can get away with.
That said, a phone call to my state AG was quite effective in getting them to ‘see reason’ (eg do their fucking job) more than once, so nice to know state laws still have some teeth.
Agreed but so far health insurance companies have recognized that paying for vaccines is a hell of a lot cheaper than paying for what happens without vaccines. I worry a lot more about Trump + GOP undoing the no pre-existing conditions and free preventive care parts of the ACA instead.
UHC is regulated by the state, a state very much can say pay for x or lose your certification to operate in this state.
For vaccines? Yes they’ll pay. Cheaper than paying for hospitalizations. It’s just like I’ve never had issues with insurance paying for birth control, pregnancy is expensive to cover health-wise
That’s the part that really stands out. These morons think Doctors and other experts blindly follow the guidelines, so if they just change the guidelines then pediatricians will blindly follow the new guidelines. No. They followed the guidelines because there was good science behind them before.
Yup
Even here in Tennessee our pediatrician has said they and most other practices they know will flat out ignore anything the Trump administration is doing.
Should start using BI and AI. Before Idiocracy and After idiocracy.
Was able to get my COVID & flu vaccines no problem this year because CA is smart.
Same here. I hope this will also be true in 2026. My Dad will be 80 next year, and I don't want to give him either COVID or the flu.
Better would be to use Canadian govt or EU or WHO guidance bc then any actual updates based on research can be implemented
Wouldn’t that be so ironic if, as a result, just the right suffered fatalities because of this? There should be a Reddit page for this kind of irony - oh wait…
This is the right way, but unfortunately I assume insurance won't cover anything because they'll fall back on CDC guidelines as a way to not pay for vaccines. I hope that's not at all the case but I figure if they can find a way out of paying, they will.
I don’t know about that. Cheaper to vaccinate than a hospital stay
Right? 3 years till we can reset everything.
This government will do anything and everything to prevent that. And before you say, "they can't do that, its illegal", they've already shown that they don't care and will do it anyway. Who is stopping them?
More American children dieing, whoo! USA USA USA! Number OnE! 🦅🦅🦅
It's about time! Kids need to learn how to take care of their fabrics when they start to fade!
More American Graves Advocated!
Time to invest in coffins! And funeral homes!
Small coffins, to be more specific.
Itty-bitty baby coffins.
They come in fire truck red and ducky yellow and froggy green.
Sadly sales of baby coffins peaked in the US in 2022 and 2023. Take from that what you want.
Given the prevalence of the GOP's determination and the many like minded parents aided by JFK Jr, we are likely to see another resurgence in said sales. Utterly tragic and unnecessary.
So more death and disability for kids. Assholes.
Man really is desperate to kill off more children
He got a taste of killing kids in Samoa, now he’s ready to indulge in gluttony.
I swear, they went past "the cruelty is the point" and straight to mass murder.
The cuts in USAID alone will kill millions more people than the Holocaust did.
If I were an enemy of the US, say the President of Russia for instance, I would definitely look for ways to cull its population of children. This would be one of the most obvious methods.
Who knew that the covid conspiracy people would be right..except it's their own people who are pushing the population control agenda..
Millions will die.
Propaganda 101 - ALWAYS accuse your opponents of what you're actually doing.
No wonder they want women out of the workplace: someone's gonna need to be shitting out more kids to make up the loss to childhood diseases or the Great Replacement boogeyman will kill western civilization.
Like any smart state will follow them. Glad I live in California
I’m so grateful to be safe from at least some of the idiocy going on in other parts of the country.
I just understand this. Like im not naive and I know there is a grift in it somwhere. But...wheres the money? How are they making cash out of killing kids? Dont they realise if there are less people there are less workers for thier shitty little factories?? im just tired man
"With AI we won't need all these people so they're just 'useless eaters' and need to die."
I wish I was being hyperbolic.
Hand-picked kooks, more like it....
Dear Justice, Karma, something…anything…what happened to consequences for sabotaging humanity?
Camelot is a very silly place.
They want ‘the weak’ to die. Sick eugenics.
I’m gonna double vaccinate my kids out of spite
We should do a before and after of mortality rates on RFK's tenure.
I had to have a wee scream of impotent rage about this in the car today when they we’re talking about it on npr
Why? It's working fine as is if followed.
You'll find a lot of conspiratorial theories about the true agenda of antivax people, but I believe the answer is very simple: They really are that stupid.
I think it's pretty damn obvious they're eugenicists, Bobby Brainworm in particular.
So are these experts in their field? THey have degrees and all that? If not, then why are they giving out medical advice?