It just occurred to me, though: didn't the Supreme Court rule that government agencies can't make regulations? That that's a power of Congress now (the "Chevron" case")? Couldn't it be argued that FDA doesn't have the authority to ban vaccines?
They won't ban vaccines, they'll change all the criteria to get them approved, and Trump will back it. SCOTUS Chevron case from June says the Executive owns the agencies completely (except the Fed). Dems have no power whatsoever right now, no guardrails, no ability to delay. It's a broken system.
If he can kill the Dept. of Education, then he can do this.
Yes and no. They gave themselves an excuse to overturn anything they don't like while generally keeping the status quo when they don't feel like getting involved.
The chevron case was about courts giving deference to agencies. So, for example, Congress says the FDA can regulate your potato chips but doesn't spell out exactly how. The FDA regulates your potato chips. In the past, when in doubt, courts were supposed to defer or give deference to the experts at the agency in question (in this case the FDA) and only overrule them with good reason.
Now, all of that is still the same except courts don't need a good reason to go against the federal agency anymore. So everything is basically still the same until the potato chip maker sues and buys the judge a really cool RV.
Ah, but you see, dead children can't be autistic, so really they're all for supporting vaccines. They just want them to be made out of good, wholesome lead.
Throw a screaming fit and do their best to get it banned because it's never been about the autism, it's been about feeling superior to all the sheeple who don't understand The Truth™ - at the basest level they really just want to feel smart and included in this special group who Know A Thing™ because it gives them a place to belong.
Prasad: but but but I’ve never seen a RCT proving it was the bullets that killed the kids and not the blast of hot air preceding and following the bullet
We need Nuremberg trials. These people have proven that they have nothing but bad intentions towards the United States and society writ large. Each individual needs to be prosecuted. We'll let a jury sprt out the nature of their crimes.
Social media has made "opinions" carry more weight than science.
One positive thing in all the bullshit we're seeing today is that we can now figure who's an idiot and who is sane. We knew that with an average 100IQ a 110 IQ was balanced with a 90, but these people are walking, talking, working regular jobs. Now we.know who they are.
10 kids out of literally millions that have received it does not seem at all statistically significant even if the deaths were actually caused by the vaccine. (No evidence that these deaths were real or caused by COVID-19 vaccine.)
I strongly doubt the evidence is real; I'll bet they've fabricated it to support their cult-goal of getting rid of vaccines.
One of the powers of government authority is to have 'secrets' that they can use to justify doing terrible or stupid things. Like how they knew there were WMD's in Iraq, which justified the war over there back in 2003. etc. Nobody has any way to refute it, and sometimes it's all faked BS.
Dr. Paul Offit, a pediatrician and the director of the Vaccine Education Center at the Children’s Hospital of Philadelphia, told NPR that Prasad had not provided any evidence that COVID-19 vaccines had actually killed 10 children, and that “all this will do is scare people unnecessarily.”
Yeah, it looks like others are thinking these are made up as well. This administration, especially when it comes to vaccines, is full of liars.
Offit's comments should be shouted from the rooftops.
CBS News headline: "FDA official, without providing data, claims link between COVID-19 vaccines and pediatric deaths."
Really, all they needed to say was that the pronouncement came from Vinay Prasad and it would have been obvious that it was from a brain-worm-adjacent source.
I hope he enjoys the Karma he has sown when it returns to him
Every single time I see something about a vaccine causing a rare, serious illness or death, a quick search shows me that the disease the vaccine is protecting against carries the same risks, but at a much higher rate. Somehow, antivaxxers never seem to make that connection.
As a biologist, i have read through the VAERS data and learned how to properly navigate it, I wouldn't be surprised if those 10 kids were something along the lines of:
"Has severe muscular dystrophy, nonfunctional lungs, and a brain tumor admitted in hospital for 5 weeks prior, received covid vaccine to protect their nonfunctional lungs. Died 3 days later"
Correlation does not equal causation.
The covid vaccines have had tens of thousands of entries after people found out that submission to the database could be made by pretty much everyone and that contributing medical history isnt necessary to get a post up. If you read through the deaths adverse effects list, very very little of them are spontaneous in prior healthy individuals and most of those are inconclusive to have anything to do with the vaccine administration.
It is widely agreed that the vast majority of vaccine injury occurs within 14 days of administration due to the classic average immune response running on a roughly 10 day cycle. So many reports of death from vaccine 4 weeks out with sudden onset are sensationalized and most likely totally unrelated to getting the vaccine.
It is undeniable that vaccine injuries happen, but it is super rare for all vaccines. Most occur in individuals who have moderate to severe prior contributing conditions (such as various immuno-funky conditions). And most vaccine injuries are resolvable with proper medical care without long term complications. Every adverse event deserves to be investigated, but the VAERS database doesn't provide nearly enough info alone to make any conclusions about that population. I dont fault laypeople for not understanding this stuff.
I dont expect anyone to be a biologist. The VAERS database is hard to navigate, very dependent on your search parameters, and are subject to interpretation. Meanwhile research publications are difficult to read and clogged up with jargon. Neither are accessible for most people. But people who DONT understand this stuff need to have some self reflection to know they DONT understand enough to fill in the gaps- and they need to accept that that is okay. Experts exist for these things for a reason. You wouldn't take your car for repairs to somebody who has a basic knowledge of how steering wheels work- you would want to rely on a mechanic who could rebuild your car from the ground up. You definitely wouldn't want to fix your own car cus you saw a Facebook post with an info graphic on how pistons work with the caption being "they 💯dont💯 want 💯you💯 to💯 know 💯this 😡😡😡‼️‼️‼️🤯🤯🤯"
This is not meant to discount the potential that their deaths COULD be linked to vaccine injury. I know people personally who have had vaccine related injuries from other shots, and they deserve recognition and support.
But I despise how much hype is made around a spreadsheet with unfinished cells and dubious, unreliable, or unrelated information.
Always become educated on adverse events of any medicine or procedure you are administered, advocate for yourself to be an informed patient. But don't let politics bastardize your judgement.
Tylenol is more dangerous than most vaccines and neither are because of risk of autism (which isnt even something that really needs to be prevented or "cured "). People die from Tylenol overdose all the time, and they sell that stuff in multipack extra strength big bottles in grocery stores- because data has shown that proper administration is extremely safe. Hell, they still sell dextrometorphan over the counter even though its not even a good drug, is often abused by youth, and is often misused by the public for the wrong thing (its generally indicated to reduce dry cough, you never want to suppress a productive cough). They still sell phenylephrine over the counter despite it having pretty bad interactions with blood pressure and heart rate and doesn't even do the thing that its indicated for (if you have congestion, get the psuedoephedrine, they only keep it behind counter cus they dont want people making meth out of it).
Lmao if only my friends agreed to call them "presentations " instead of "snooze fests". I appreciate that you seem very supportive of her career endeavors :)
She has a PhD in Biology, focusing on Behavior and Psychology, specifically in birds.
She has always wanted to understand the why in animal behaviors.
I am SO fucking proud of her, and only worried about job prospects now.
She is having a hard time finding a new position, considering the situation in this country :(
I totally understand. I have my masters and have been working in industry for the last 6 years and I am so privileged to have kept my job. The past year has been very difficult for biologists. It has been exhausting. I'm sure your daughter feels the same. I hope she is able to land something that actually fits her qualifications, after that many years of work- she deserves it.
Someone I know posted on social media that she was sure the covid vaccine killed her mother. Her mom had Parkinsons and lived in some nursing facility (where I'm sure she rarely visited her to have a clue about anything anyway). But yeah, it had to be the vaccine! Ugh.
Yeah hate this shit. One of my coworkers had a similar thing which is so disheartening coming from a lab centric biotech professional with a lot of experience. She is super sweet so we tried not to rip into her too hard, but its a touchy topic because no matter what caused it- their loved one died and its just not something you want to argue about
Word of the day is surely kakistocracy, which is government by the worst, least qualified, or most unscrupulous people. I can't think of a more fitting time in US history for this. It would be fun if it weren't so terrifying.
Perfection does not exist in reality. Vaccines are about managing risks. The risk of unvaccinated COVID verse the risk of a mRNA vaccine is measured in millions of lives.
The real failure was the decision to forego developing a SARS vaccine, which could have been updated for COVID, in a matter of weeks. If we had a SARS vaccine, COVID wouldn't have reached pandemic status.
These simple thinking do-gooders fail to have a even basic grasp of how complex human biology is and how vaccines interact with the human immune system.
It's really concerning how they're starting to co-opt language like "evidence based medicine" to make themselves look more authoritative and professional while they ignore actual evidence to implement their agenda.
Aside from the # saved by vaccine, I think these 10-deaths are faked evidence. It's been 5+ years now, and somehow nobody had seen these cases before..?
If the cases are real then they need to give the details, because they've got a clear agenda and have no credibility at all with other scientists or the general public. If they decline then that's a clear sign that it's BS.
"A Path Forward" is code for "We're going to ban vaccines".
Ding, ding, ding—we have a winnah!
It just occurred to me, though: didn't the Supreme Court rule that government agencies can't make regulations? That that's a power of Congress now (the "Chevron" case")? Couldn't it be argued that FDA doesn't have the authority to ban vaccines?
"Rules for thee.." That rule is only meant to screw Democratic initiatives, not theirs. They will find a work-around.
And the Dems cave in like little bitches.
They won't ban vaccines, they'll change all the criteria to get them approved, and Trump will back it. SCOTUS Chevron case from June says the Executive owns the agencies completely (except the Fed). Dems have no power whatsoever right now, no guardrails, no ability to delay. It's a broken system.
If he can kill the Dept. of Education, then he can do this.
Only until the Supreme Court carves out an exception.
Yes and no. They gave themselves an excuse to overturn anything they don't like while generally keeping the status quo when they don't feel like getting involved.
The chevron case was about courts giving deference to agencies. So, for example, Congress says the FDA can regulate your potato chips but doesn't spell out exactly how. The FDA regulates your potato chips. In the past, when in doubt, courts were supposed to defer or give deference to the experts at the agency in question (in this case the FDA) and only overrule them with good reason.
Now, all of that is still the same except courts don't need a good reason to go against the federal agency anymore. So everything is basically still the same until the potato chip maker sues and buys the judge a really cool RV.
Bullets kill thousands of kids, what are we doing about that?
making it even easier?
Ah, but you see, dead children can't be autistic, so really they're all for supporting vaccines. They just want them to be made out of good, wholesome lead.
I’m going to create a vaccine that prevent autism just to see what these anti-vax buttholes do with it.
Throw a screaming fit and do their best to get it banned because it's never been about the autism, it's been about feeling superior to all the sheeple who don't understand The Truth™ - at the basest level they really just want to feel smart and included in this special group who Know A Thing™ because it gives them a place to belong.
Same with any cult, really.
Silly rabbit: bullets are for kids!
Prasad: but but but I’ve never seen a RCT proving it was the bullets that killed the kids and not the blast of hot air preceding and following the bullet
Lots of thoughts and prayers.
I want these people jailed. Charged with crimes when their "daddy" is out of office.
100%
We need Nuremberg trials. These people have proven that they have nothing but bad intentions towards the United States and society writ large. Each individual needs to be prosecuted. We'll let a jury sprt out the nature of their crimes.
Social media has made "opinions" carry more weight than science.
One positive thing in all the bullshit we're seeing today is that we can now figure who's an idiot and who is sane. We knew that with an average 100IQ a 110 IQ was balanced with a 90, but these people are walking, talking, working regular jobs. Now we.know who they are.
10 kids out of literally millions that have received it does not seem at all statistically significant even if the deaths were actually caused by the vaccine. (No evidence that these deaths were real or caused by COVID-19 vaccine.)
I strongly doubt the evidence is real; I'll bet they've fabricated it to support their cult-goal of getting rid of vaccines.
One of the powers of government authority is to have 'secrets' that they can use to justify doing terrible or stupid things. Like how they knew there were WMD's in Iraq, which justified the war over there back in 2003. etc. Nobody has any way to refute it, and sometimes it's all faked BS.
Yeah, it looks like others are thinking these are made up as well. This administration, especially when it comes to vaccines, is full of liars.
Offit's comments should be shouted from the rooftops.
CBS News headline: "FDA official, without providing data, claims link between COVID-19 vaccines and pediatric deaths."
Really, all they needed to say was that the pronouncement came from Vinay Prasad and it would have been obvious that it was from a brain-worm-adjacent source.
I hope he enjoys the Karma he has sown when it returns to him
Every single time I see something about a vaccine causing a rare, serious illness or death, a quick search shows me that the disease the vaccine is protecting against carries the same risks, but at a much higher rate. Somehow, antivaxxers never seem to make that connection.
They came from the VAERS database which automatically means they're compromised.
As a biologist, i have read through the VAERS data and learned how to properly navigate it, I wouldn't be surprised if those 10 kids were something along the lines of:
"Has severe muscular dystrophy, nonfunctional lungs, and a brain tumor admitted in hospital for 5 weeks prior, received covid vaccine to protect their nonfunctional lungs. Died 3 days later"
Correlation does not equal causation.
The covid vaccines have had tens of thousands of entries after people found out that submission to the database could be made by pretty much everyone and that contributing medical history isnt necessary to get a post up. If you read through the deaths adverse effects list, very very little of them are spontaneous in prior healthy individuals and most of those are inconclusive to have anything to do with the vaccine administration.
It is widely agreed that the vast majority of vaccine injury occurs within 14 days of administration due to the classic average immune response running on a roughly 10 day cycle. So many reports of death from vaccine 4 weeks out with sudden onset are sensationalized and most likely totally unrelated to getting the vaccine.
It is undeniable that vaccine injuries happen, but it is super rare for all vaccines. Most occur in individuals who have moderate to severe prior contributing conditions (such as various immuno-funky conditions). And most vaccine injuries are resolvable with proper medical care without long term complications. Every adverse event deserves to be investigated, but the VAERS database doesn't provide nearly enough info alone to make any conclusions about that population. I dont fault laypeople for not understanding this stuff.
I dont expect anyone to be a biologist. The VAERS database is hard to navigate, very dependent on your search parameters, and are subject to interpretation. Meanwhile research publications are difficult to read and clogged up with jargon. Neither are accessible for most people. But people who DONT understand this stuff need to have some self reflection to know they DONT understand enough to fill in the gaps- and they need to accept that that is okay. Experts exist for these things for a reason. You wouldn't take your car for repairs to somebody who has a basic knowledge of how steering wheels work- you would want to rely on a mechanic who could rebuild your car from the ground up. You definitely wouldn't want to fix your own car cus you saw a Facebook post with an info graphic on how pistons work with the caption being "they 💯dont💯 want 💯you💯 to💯 know 💯this 😡😡😡‼️‼️‼️🤯🤯🤯"
This is not meant to discount the potential that their deaths COULD be linked to vaccine injury. I know people personally who have had vaccine related injuries from other shots, and they deserve recognition and support.
But I despise how much hype is made around a spreadsheet with unfinished cells and dubious, unreliable, or unrelated information.
Always become educated on adverse events of any medicine or procedure you are administered, advocate for yourself to be an informed patient. But don't let politics bastardize your judgement.
Tylenol is more dangerous than most vaccines and neither are because of risk of autism (which isnt even something that really needs to be prevented or "cured "). People die from Tylenol overdose all the time, and they sell that stuff in multipack extra strength big bottles in grocery stores- because data has shown that proper administration is extremely safe. Hell, they still sell dextrometorphan over the counter even though its not even a good drug, is often abused by youth, and is often misused by the public for the wrong thing (its generally indicated to reduce dry cough, you never want to suppress a productive cough). They still sell phenylephrine over the counter despite it having pretty bad interactions with blood pressure and heart rate and doesn't even do the thing that its indicated for (if you have congestion, get the psuedoephedrine, they only keep it behind counter cus they dont want people making meth out of it).
A sorry for the long ass rant. I get heated by this shit.
Don't be sorry. My daughter is a Biologist as well and feels the same way.
So youre probably already accustomed to pedantic rants lolol
I don't consider them nit-picky. I actually enjoy listening to her "presentations" :) And yours here is spot on.
Lmao if only my friends agreed to call them "presentations " instead of "snooze fests". I appreciate that you seem very supportive of her career endeavors :)
She has a PhD in Biology, focusing on Behavior and Psychology, specifically in birds. She has always wanted to understand the why in animal behaviors. I am SO fucking proud of her, and only worried about job prospects now. She is having a hard time finding a new position, considering the situation in this country :(
I totally understand. I have my masters and have been working in industry for the last 6 years and I am so privileged to have kept my job. The past year has been very difficult for biologists. It has been exhausting. I'm sure your daughter feels the same. I hope she is able to land something that actually fits her qualifications, after that many years of work- she deserves it.
Someone I know posted on social media that she was sure the covid vaccine killed her mother. Her mom had Parkinsons and lived in some nursing facility (where I'm sure she rarely visited her to have a clue about anything anyway). But yeah, it had to be the vaccine! Ugh.
Yeah hate this shit. One of my coworkers had a similar thing which is so disheartening coming from a lab centric biotech professional with a lot of experience. She is super sweet so we tried not to rip into her too hard, but its a touchy topic because no matter what caused it- their loved one died and its just not something you want to argue about
Word of the day is surely kakistocracy, which is government by the worst, least qualified, or most unscrupulous people. I can't think of a more fitting time in US history for this. It would be fun if it weren't so terrifying.
Pluto-oli-kakistocracy.
With capitalism, you three for the price of one!
I lean more towards idiocracy. They even made a documentary about it.
Nah it doesn't hold up to reality, the president in that movie actually listened to the smart guy.
And how many kids died of COVID?
More.
Jesus Christ.
Jesus fucking Christ
🤬
Oh, we know Jesus, we know
I stand corrected
Trump killed 10 kids with the Covid Vaccine he approved?
Perfection does not exist in reality. Vaccines are about managing risks. The risk of unvaccinated COVID verse the risk of a mRNA vaccine is measured in millions of lives.
The real failure was the decision to forego developing a SARS vaccine, which could have been updated for COVID, in a matter of weeks. If we had a SARS vaccine, COVID wouldn't have reached pandemic status.
These simple thinking do-gooders fail to have a even basic grasp of how complex human biology is and how vaccines interact with the human immune system.
It's really concerning how they're starting to co-opt language like "evidence based medicine" to make themselves look more authoritative and professional while they ignore actual evidence to implement their agenda.
WT actual F…
It only kills American kids?
Why is his hair.
I thought some words were missing from your comment. So I scrolled back up. Why, indeed
And his unshaven face.
He looks like he just rolled out of bed after a 3-day bender.
Please tell me the wackjob “DR” in the thumbnail isn’t the FDA official. I saw this guys’s YouTube videos before and it is clickbait
God, I hate this timeline! And this guy’s haircut needs to be posted in r/justfuckmyshitup
We are ruled by idiots and conmen. Everyone who voted for this clown show is responsible and wish them nothing but the worst.
Every day it's something with these traitorous clowns.
Fuck this regime.
When will this nightmare be over? F all of them
Jfc🤦🏻♀️I want out of this fucking nightmare
He couldn't brush his damn hair for this photo?
Boris Johnson admirer
How many kids did the vaccine save? 10,000? 100,000? 1,000,000?
Aside from the # saved by vaccine, I think these 10-deaths are faked evidence. It's been 5+ years now, and somehow nobody had seen these cases before..?
If the cases are real then they need to give the details, because they've got a clear agenda and have no credibility at all with other scientists or the general public. If they decline then that's a clear sign that it's BS.
Ok so protect kids from needles but not bullets… gotcha 🤦🏻
One card in your deck has to have a picture of MLK Jr. on it.