Can confirm. I got Noro after a staff Christmas party about a decade ago. It was one of the most horrid weeks of my life. 3 or 4 days where I didn't leave the bathroom, just rotated between violent explosions from every orifice to laying on the cold tile waiting for the sweet embrace of death
Did that on an airplane about 2 months ago flying the red eye. Somehow got it in the toilet and sink and not a drop in my pants. One of my best achievements ever.
I can't speak to the mechanics of how this thing spreads. I know that there is more to it than "hygiene." I've gotten it before like about 8 days after it came through my house. No one had symptoms over that period.
I was at work, couldn't have been more than an hour left in the day. I remember thinking about the great weather we were having and pondering whatever fun shit i was going to do that weekend. Maybe 30 minutes after that I felt like maybe my lunch didn't agree with me.
Something in my head said, hey just go to the bathroom. I wasn't in the stall for more than 3 minutes before it unloaded on me. No beuno.
The son of a bitch was I felt "better" in two days. Which meant I could get up and move around my house to do human like things without feeling like I was going to die. But I barely ate for 2 weeks. I had a protein bar and coffee one day. Maybe some a handful of crackers. Otherwise my stomach would feel like death.
Oh that is absolutely how it feels. Last time it swept through New York, I got sick from touching the same surfaces as someone who had recovered a week before hand. It was just before Christmas three years ago and I was unfortunately just arriving at a Christmas party :((
I was working retail when I got it. I think someone went to the bathroom, didn’t wash their hands, and then handed me cash, and I wiped my face or something.
I too got it on a cruise, didn’t have symptoms until literally the day I got home and I immediately had to run to the bathroom to use the toilet while my head was in a garbage pail. It then spread like wildfire through my house, and to our extended family and through their houses. Not only is it horrific, it survives in the air and on surfaces for like 2 weeks. Eventually we went nuclear and scrubbed our entire house down with Cavicide. Lysol and Clorox wipes don’t kill it.
I heard they want to study people that haven't gotten it. I've gotten it too many times. I think the vaccine helps but overall I have found that just because you feel better, it doesn't mean you're healed. I'm not sure if my sense of smell ever came back fully.
Interesting. I got the vaxx twice and one booster back in 2021/22. I also have a really good immune system. I figured I'd more likely be asymptomatic and didn't want to get the older people in my life sick. But, especially my wife and kid at the time.
I have a great immune system too. Relatively speaking, not objectively lol. It was really no big deal for me during the contagious period. What I didn't realize and couldn't tell until afterwards, I did have long haul symptoms. Last go around, I caught every single upper respiratory illness. It was back to back to back over 4 months. Since then, barely a sniffle and sore throat. Nearly a year removed. Not looking forward to running the holiday gauntlet again!
I have severe emetophobia and this is my worst nightmare :( I feel like genuinely quitting my job to avoid coming into contact with people. I feel trapped
I have it too to the point I’m in therapy for it. If it helps at all the article does say it’s tracking slightly lower numbers currently than it was this time last year. This time of year is a phobia nightmare, always trying to find the tiny glimmer of hope in there.
Sending hugs. I’ve been in therapy for it for about 2 years. It helped tremendously but I relapsed after a few months of not keeping up with exposures.
Thank you! It’s apparently one of the harder phobias to manage. I’ve struggled since kindergarten but really started having trouble as an adult when my son started full time school. All fall and winter I was side eyeing him afraid he was sick.
We’ve been doing ART rather than EMDR because the thought of any more intense or exposure therapy made me panic. I’ve noticed I’m still stressed about it this season but it’s less mentally overwhelming than before so I need to keep up the sessions.
It’s so frustrating to know it’s irrational but have zero control over the spiral. Literally fighting your own brain is exhausting.
Battled this phobia for 6 years. Lost half my weight because I was so scared of food.
Hate to say but the only thing that ended this nightmare for me was anti depressants. Life is back to normal now. But boy, that step took some courage ... Good luck soldier.
I have severe emetophobia as well and am (thankfully and also not thankfully) unemployed right now and am putting the job search on hold except for remote work because of this! It's such a miserable phobia. Also barely leaving my house, it's so bad:( thankfully masks are more socially acceptable now so when I do go out I feel a bit less anxious in one
I just had this norovirus about three weeks ago. Hit me like a train and I had to go to the hospital due to severe dehydration. I couldn’t keep anything in me for about 30hours. Even ice chips would cause me to vomit and diarrhea almost immediately. Had to get 4 IV bags to get me back up to the minimum level. This was no joke and hands down the worst sickness I’ve ever had.
Wash ur hands.
Norovirus cases are currently elevated, but a little lower than where they were by this time last year, said Dr. Camile Gooden, an internal medicine physician at NYU Langone Hospital—Suffolk in New York. However, “Recently, there has been a surge in norovirus ... we’re seeing more positive testing,” Gooden added. This is due to a new strain of the virus.
The virus spreads easily and in different ways than other winter viruses. Here’s what to know:
Norovirus spreads through vomit and fecal particles.
As a germaphobe who works with kids.. finding that out last year was both a blessing and a curse. Blessing to know it and protect myself but a curse cause I would wash my hands after touching anything kid related instead of sanitizing. So many trips to the bathroom 😩
You can use hypochlorous acid based hand sanitizer.
It has a protein envelope (capsid) that's not broke down by bath and body works-type sanitizer (alcohol based) but the HOCI does make the RNA "inert". Physical action helps too, to get through the shell, like "scrubbing" action but you need the HOCI to kill it.
I take A&D on cruises because I can't wash my hands every 10 minutes.
Not a new strain.. common every single year at this time, even called winter vomiting sickness in Sweden.
Lots of hand washing, care not to touch hands to face after being out and about, especially when using shared bathrooms. Had it once, via 3 yr old at daycare 15 hours a week. Hopefully never again, no one in family had since, and child about to turn 20.
My two year old got it from daycare about a week before thanksgiving. It swept through that place like the plague. They don’t exactly aim for the toilet or a bucket at that age, they aim for you. Everything was covered. Three days later when we thought the worst was over, she then vomited all over herself and her car seat. Oh yea and I got it too.
11 years ago my wife had it, then our 6-month-old had it, then my wife caught it a second time (from the 6-month-old). There. Was. So. Much. Barfing and shitting. Bc the baby was so little I had to give him a teaspoon of water every half hour around the clock to keep him from getting dehydrated. Everything he or my wife touched had to be sequestered and laundered immediately. And we didn’t have a washer and dryer so I had to do laundry down the street at a laundromat when my wife wasn’t too weak to stand up and get the baby if he needed help.
I boiled toys. I washed my hands until they were bloody nubs. Traveled with hospital grade hydrogen peroxide wipes for a year after that. I didn’t even get sick and still it haunts me.
Fun fact. Hand sanitizer is ineffective against Norwalk. Has to be soap with water thorough scrubbing. Only a tiny amount of virus is required to establish an infection, so even being in the vicinity of someone’s vomit may infect you.
Ah this makes me feel all that more uncomfortable. Just went shopping at Albertsons and there was an old dude walking around open mouth scroughing everywhere. We tried to stay as far away as possible.
Dumb headers, just say the virus norovirus not "this virus" with tons of ads and wasted words, and the article says "slightly elevated". Nothing burger of news, yes yes wash your hands and don't get sick. The people who don't wash today won't wash tomorrow
😵🫠☠️ Cynical mood activated
PLEASE know that you CANNOT rely on hand sanitizer to protect you from noro! The virus is in that .01% that hand sanitizer doesn't reliably kill. You need to wash your hands properly with soap and water, 20 seconds of lathering the soap.
Also when using bleach, sanitizing wipes, or whatever to clean surfaces, read the instructions! A Clorox wipe can deal with norovirus - but you need to make sure the solution stays on the surface for a sufficient amount of time and then air dries.
Well, I just recently took a possible vaccine for Norwalk virus. First I was hopeful, but I have no warm arm no stiffness no soreness no fever so I think I got the placebo of some distilled water but I like the fact they have a vaccine. They are test testing. I have had Norwalk virus once as an adult and I said never again. And having worked in a school kitchen I’m all about washing my hands about 50 times a day so who knows where I got it
I had it last winter and the winter before. It only lasts about three days but it's three days of hell. Last winter my poor little two years old grandson got it first. Then I got, then his mother got it.. thankfully we didn't get it all at once. I had three different viruses back to back last winter. First a generic fatigue, fever, runny nose one for about a week and a half, then the Norwalk virus for three (felt like it went on forever) days. And then pertussis for about three weeks (and the cough lingered for months). By time I surfaced from that ongoing hellscape I was so weak and dehydrated I couldn't even walk. I lost at least ten pounds. My daughter had to go get me nutrition drinks and nasty salty Gatorade. I dread this year. I'm 70 and I'm too old for this.
Can confirm. I got Noro after a staff Christmas party about a decade ago. It was one of the most horrid weeks of my life. 3 or 4 days where I didn't leave the bathroom, just rotated between violent explosions from every orifice to laying on the cold tile waiting for the sweet embrace of death
Did you have the both at once? The shomit?
Did that on an airplane about 2 months ago flying the red eye. Somehow got it in the toilet and sink and not a drop in my pants. One of my best achievements ever.
I shall now think of you every time I go into an airplane restroom and really make sure I don’t touch any of the surfaces.
🤮
The shomit?! 😭 Hilarious and I will be using this, thanks
The shomit😂
Haha not to be confused with the “scromiting”
Aka double dragon
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Oh boy. I had norovirus once many years ago and it was the worst week of my life. I was so pale I looked like a corpse.
Hygiene, peeps. You don’t wanna get this.
I can't speak to the mechanics of how this thing spreads. I know that there is more to it than "hygiene." I've gotten it before like about 8 days after it came through my house. No one had symptoms over that period.
I was at work, couldn't have been more than an hour left in the day. I remember thinking about the great weather we were having and pondering whatever fun shit i was going to do that weekend. Maybe 30 minutes after that I felt like maybe my lunch didn't agree with me.
Something in my head said, hey just go to the bathroom. I wasn't in the stall for more than 3 minutes before it unloaded on me. No beuno.
The son of a bitch was I felt "better" in two days. Which meant I could get up and move around my house to do human like things without feeling like I was going to die. But I barely ate for 2 weeks. I had a protein bar and coffee one day. Maybe some a handful of crackers. Otherwise my stomach would feel like death.
No beuno.
“Fun Shit”
Oh that is absolutely how it feels. Last time it swept through New York, I got sick from touching the same surfaces as someone who had recovered a week before hand. It was just before Christmas three years ago and I was unfortunately just arriving at a Christmas party :((
Oh man, I'm sorry I hear that happened.
So was the man that drove me home. Oh my God, the memory just made me burn and shame again
(psst - it’s bueno, not “beuno”)
It IS hygiene. You only get it by swallowing poop.
Somehow you got poop in your mouth.
That's a hygiene problem.
You can also get it from an infected person shedding virus or just being in a public bathroom and breathing in...
Its a wildly contagious virus. Its why once your kid gets it in a household everyone gets it.
Last thanksgiving half of the ED workers had it... it was awful, we all looked so sick.
I was working retail when I got it. I think someone went to the bathroom, didn’t wash their hands, and then handed me cash, and I wiped my face or something.
Unless someone vomited or Shit in your directions those Viral Particles are floating straight down....you just didnt wash your hands
How much poop is needed? Because poop particles are flying around many public restrooms.
A little dab will do you.
Do-do a dollop of daisy 🎶🎵
10 or more virus particles.
So, yes. You can absolutely get it walking into a restroom with an infected person.
Vomit particles too.
One rounded scoop should do it
Got me
It lives on surfaces and is incredibly difficult to kill with typical cleaning products
Vomit particles and infected food (yes, from poo and vomit particles). I think the bigger thing is; if you’re sick…stay the hell home!!!
Amen!
I too got it on a cruise, didn’t have symptoms until literally the day I got home and I immediately had to run to the bathroom to use the toilet while my head was in a garbage pail. It then spread like wildfire through my house, and to our extended family and through their houses. Not only is it horrific, it survives in the air and on surfaces for like 2 weeks. Eventually we went nuclear and scrubbed our entire house down with Cavicide. Lysol and Clorox wipes don’t kill it.
Damn. This must have been it. I must have not gotten it good enough.
Funny enough, I grabbed all the Clorox wipes we had in the office and wiped everything I was near before I left.
Thankfully it doesn't seem like anyone else got it from me.
I was doing all the things before covid. I haven't stopped. My entire family still hasn't got it yet. Everyone I know has. It's freaking weird.
I heard they want to study people that haven't gotten it. I've gotten it too many times. I think the vaccine helps but overall I have found that just because you feel better, it doesn't mean you're healed. I'm not sure if my sense of smell ever came back fully.
Interesting. I got the vaxx twice and one booster back in 2021/22. I also have a really good immune system. I figured I'd more likely be asymptomatic and didn't want to get the older people in my life sick. But, especially my wife and kid at the time.
I have a great immune system too. Relatively speaking, not objectively lol. It was really no big deal for me during the contagious period. What I didn't realize and couldn't tell until afterwards, I did have long haul symptoms. Last go around, I caught every single upper respiratory illness. It was back to back to back over 4 months. Since then, barely a sniffle and sore throat. Nearly a year removed. Not looking forward to running the holiday gauntlet again!
My elderly mom just picked it up in the hospital and spread it to family members. Such a nasty bug.
I have severe emetophobia and this is my worst nightmare :( I feel like genuinely quitting my job to avoid coming into contact with people. I feel trapped
I have it too to the point I’m in therapy for it. If it helps at all the article does say it’s tracking slightly lower numbers currently than it was this time last year. This time of year is a phobia nightmare, always trying to find the tiny glimmer of hope in there.
Sending hugs. I’ve been in therapy for it for about 2 years. It helped tremendously but I relapsed after a few months of not keeping up with exposures.
Thank you! It’s apparently one of the harder phobias to manage. I’ve struggled since kindergarten but really started having trouble as an adult when my son started full time school. All fall and winter I was side eyeing him afraid he was sick.
We’ve been doing ART rather than EMDR because the thought of any more intense or exposure therapy made me panic. I’ve noticed I’m still stressed about it this season but it’s less mentally overwhelming than before so I need to keep up the sessions.
It’s so frustrating to know it’s irrational but have zero control over the spiral. Literally fighting your own brain is exhausting.
Wearing a mask will help keep you from contracting it from washrooms.
I do too 😞 Just the thought of vomiting sends me into full blown panic
Battled this phobia for 6 years. Lost half my weight because I was so scared of food. Hate to say but the only thing that ended this nightmare for me was anti depressants. Life is back to normal now. But boy, that step took some courage ... Good luck soldier.
Gotta focus on the things you can control, which is washing your hands and practicing good hygiene. Hand sanitizer doesn’t get rid of it only soap.
Wrong.
HOCI hand sanitizer works against noro.
HOCl disinfectants can kill it, but HOCl hand sanitizers aren’t strong enough
I have severe emetophobia as well and am (thankfully and also not thankfully) unemployed right now and am putting the job search on hold except for remote work because of this! It's such a miserable phobia. Also barely leaving my house, it's so bad:( thankfully masks are more socially acceptable now so when I do go out I feel a bit less anxious in one
I just had this norovirus about three weeks ago. Hit me like a train and I had to go to the hospital due to severe dehydration. I couldn’t keep anything in me for about 30hours. Even ice chips would cause me to vomit and diarrhea almost immediately. Had to get 4 IV bags to get me back up to the minimum level. This was no joke and hands down the worst sickness I’ve ever had.
Wash ur hands. Norovirus cases are currently elevated, but a little lower than where they were by this time last year, said Dr. Camile Gooden, an internal medicine physician at NYU Langone Hospital—Suffolk in New York. However, “Recently, there has been a surge in norovirus ... we’re seeing more positive testing,” Gooden added. This is due to a new strain of the virus. The virus spreads easily and in different ways than other winter viruses. Here’s what to know: Norovirus spreads through vomit and fecal particles.
Yes, wash your hands! Hand sanitizer is not effective against norovirus, you need to wash with soap and water.
As a germaphobe who works with kids.. finding that out last year was both a blessing and a curse. Blessing to know it and protect myself but a curse cause I would wash my hands after touching anything kid related instead of sanitizing. So many trips to the bathroom 😩
Get a&d spray from Walmart. Hypochlorous acid. I even put it in my cute Bath&Body Works hand sanitizer clips.
Works on noro. Rub briskly, there's some evidence that mechanical action helps break down the protein shell.
Thanks for this info! I learn something new daily. I never heard of this spray before.
Wrong.
You can use hypochlorous acid based hand sanitizer.
It has a protein envelope (capsid) that's not broke down by bath and body works-type sanitizer (alcohol based) but the HOCI does make the RNA "inert". Physical action helps too, to get through the shell, like "scrubbing" action but you need the HOCI to kill it.
I take A&D on cruises because I can't wash my hands every 10 minutes.
Do you really normally wash your hands every 10 minutes? That seems...really excessive...
Im in sales and shake hands all day and I probably wash my hands once an hour or two...
Wow, I'm glad you commented because I never googled it, just assumed it would work 🥺
Not a new strain.. common every single year at this time, even called winter vomiting sickness in Sweden.
Lots of hand washing, care not to touch hands to face after being out and about, especially when using shared bathrooms. Had it once, via 3 yr old at daycare 15 hours a week. Hopefully never again, no one in family had since, and child about to turn 20.
As an ER nurse, it’s the worst when it’s going around the local nursing homes.
My two year old got it from daycare about a week before thanksgiving. It swept through that place like the plague. They don’t exactly aim for the toilet or a bucket at that age, they aim for you. Everything was covered. Three days later when we thought the worst was over, she then vomited all over herself and her car seat. Oh yea and I got it too.
11 years ago my wife had it, then our 6-month-old had it, then my wife caught it a second time (from the 6-month-old). There. Was. So. Much. Barfing and shitting. Bc the baby was so little I had to give him a teaspoon of water every half hour around the clock to keep him from getting dehydrated. Everything he or my wife touched had to be sequestered and laundered immediately. And we didn’t have a washer and dryer so I had to do laundry down the street at a laundromat when my wife wasn’t too weak to stand up and get the baby if he needed help.
I boiled toys. I washed my hands until they were bloody nubs. Traveled with hospital grade hydrogen peroxide wipes for a year after that. I didn’t even get sick and still it haunts me.
Just recovered. 0/10. Especially while pregnant
Fun fact. Hand sanitizer is ineffective against Norwalk. Has to be soap with water thorough scrubbing. Only a tiny amount of virus is required to establish an infection, so even being in the vicinity of someone’s vomit may infect you.
It’s always going around this time of year. 🤮
Norovirus - cool! We can all pretend we're on a cruise ship.
This is why I take HOCl hand sanitizer on cruises, not the cute alcohol ones from Bath and Body Works.
Ah this makes me feel all that more uncomfortable. Just went shopping at Albertsons and there was an old dude walking around open mouth scroughing everywhere. We tried to stay as far away as possible.
Norovirus.
Dumb headers, just say the virus norovirus not "this virus" with tons of ads and wasted words, and the article says "slightly elevated". Nothing burger of news, yes yes wash your hands and don't get sick. The people who don't wash today won't wash tomorrow 😵🫠☠️ Cynical mood activated
Good thing we have a competent leader over our health care, and we have an amazingly robust healthcare system that works like a well-oiled machine. /s
PSA hand sanitizer is ineffective against this. Handwashing abrasively and for enough time is the only way to remove it from skin
Wash 👏 your 👏 hands 👏 OFTEN. 🥰
PLEASE know that you CANNOT rely on hand sanitizer to protect you from noro! The virus is in that .01% that hand sanitizer doesn't reliably kill. You need to wash your hands properly with soap and water, 20 seconds of lathering the soap.
Also when using bleach, sanitizing wipes, or whatever to clean surfaces, read the instructions! A Clorox wipe can deal with norovirus - but you need to make sure the solution stays on the surface for a sufficient amount of time and then air dries.
My kids just got it. Luckily no one else did. But the past week has been filled with vomit. So that was fun.
My 23andme identified me as a “non-secretor” which apparently makes me less susceptible to the most common strains. So I’ve never actually gotten it.
Well, I just recently took a possible vaccine for Norwalk virus. First I was hopeful, but I have no warm arm no stiffness no soreness no fever so I think I got the placebo of some distilled water but I like the fact they have a vaccine. They are test testing. I have had Norwalk virus once as an adult and I said never again. And having worked in a school kitchen I’m all about washing my hands about 50 times a day so who knows where I got it
I got norovirus when I was staying at a high-end hotel in Shanghai. When I say that I literally prayed for death, I am not kidding.
I would only wish it on a small handful of people.
Got it a few years ago and had horrible diarrhea and vomiting on Christmas eve and christmas. Miserable timing
It is extremely contagious and you catch it fast. I wound up throwing up blood. It is terrible. Try to stay hydrated
Wash your folks …..wash your hands.
Huff 💩
I had it last winter and the winter before. It only lasts about three days but it's three days of hell. Last winter my poor little two years old grandson got it first. Then I got, then his mother got it.. thankfully we didn't get it all at once. I had three different viruses back to back last winter. First a generic fatigue, fever, runny nose one for about a week and a half, then the Norwalk virus for three (felt like it went on forever) days. And then pertussis for about three weeks (and the cough lingered for months). By time I surfaced from that ongoing hellscape I was so weak and dehydrated I couldn't even walk. I lost at least ten pounds. My daughter had to go get me nutrition drinks and nasty salty Gatorade. I dread this year. I'm 70 and I'm too old for this.
Oh no. Had it. Treated with Fentanyl.
I had a nightmare last night. Does that mean I’ve possibly got it?