I want toxic motivation for weight loss and health.

Not positivity. Not “you’re doing great.”

I want harsh, uncomfortable, no-BS motivation.

I have hypothyroidism and I’ve been inconsistent with my meds for over a year. I know that’s screwing my metabolism, my energy, and my progress, and I still keep putting it off…Ussing that (and everything else) as an excuse to not take care of my body. I want to lose weight and get my health under control, but clearly “being nice to myself” hasn’t worked.

Please give me blunt, no-nonsense motivation. Call out my excuses. Tell me what happens if I keep doing nothing. No sugarcoating, be brutal, but factual.

  • Quit being nice to yourself by letting yourself do whatever you want. Be kind to yourself instead by taking care of your health. Nice and kind = two very different things. Sending hugs

  • I hate to do this to you bud, but if you beat yourself up to be motivated or disciplined, you’ll never get what you want.

    That type of motivation is not sustainable. And even if you hit that goal under that type of motivation it doesn’t last.

    I did that type of thing in college in my early 20s. Got the slimmer body. When things naturally started going better in my life that motivator didn’t apply. Imagine beating yourself up while great things are happening to you. So my habits that were tied to it faded along side it.

    Build good habits and associate them to the life you want to live. Let your life and health matter to you. 

    I agree with Norms, but because you asked OP stop making any excuses good or bad and get your ass to the Gym, it's a choice not an excuse.

    This comment is spot on ☝️

  • Opposite action. When your mind feels like being lazy you have to go do something active.

    When you're hungry for sweets, you need to eat a healthy snack.

    Count your calories everyday. Eliminate real and fake sugar.

    That's really all you need. Exercise is the best thing for mind and body, but really, its less calories to lose weight.

    Exercise will make you feel good however and give you more calories to eat which sure helps

    Honestly when I exercise I'm hungry AF. Last time i got in good shape i really didnt lose weight but i looked better and was stronger.

    Ooh I like this :)

  • I'll go against the other comments and tell you my experience. 

    When I did army training, I was not in shape. Before joining, my family and friends talked sweet to me.

    But when I entered the army, I got shat on by its personel and rightfully so. No words were nice because I didn't meet the exercises standards.

    Guess what? My ego got the reality check it needed. Many people cracked because they can't handle to face the reality. I bowed down to the hurtful comments and I did the work. It was hard, but thanks to that I am in a better place now, and healthy. 

    Weak people will go the easy lazy way. But when you got to do the workouts and going tough on yourself is the last resort, then do it. Go brutal (but always safely to not badly hurt yourself, which is the prime rule even in the army). 

  • Take a note out of Larry David’s book and do everything out of spite.

  • You're not unmotivated. You're not lazy. Existence feels heavier because of hypothyroidism. I've been there. These are symptoms. Your energy, metabolism and tiredness/not wanting to do anything will go away with balanced thyroid hormones. Been there. Do that. It's your best and healthiest option. Unmedicated hypothyroidism can worsen. Mild tiredness can turn into the feeling of living your life with a weight jacket on at all times, mental and physical.

    But this is the internet, I could be talking to anyone. Imo just weight loss isn't worth the advice that I'll give and its tradeoffs, but hey. Maybe it paints a picture. Disclaimer: what follows is unsustainable practice I've used for a year and a half while having undiagnosed hypothyroidism and going through high school. I got through passing as a functioning human, but it made me depressed and gave me anxiety that took years to remove from my subconsciousness. But if you gotta do it,...

    If you can't afford/access the hormonal replacement pills, the solution to overpower one hormonal imbalance is... greater hormonal imbalance. You're not fighting only your psyche. You're fighting your imbalanced body. I was labeled lazy, just a student with no motivation or worth investing into. I set up alarms so loud they woke me up with adrenaline. Weaponized anxiety. If you have to work out, play a loud and very unpleasant sound on headphones that will stress you out. Cortisol or whatever. Make it unpleasant. Turn it off only after you've done what needed doing. If you can't immediately start a task or find the motivation, just wait. The screeching takes some time to build up.

    It's the same principle that makes people get out of bed in the middle of the night after a door bangs against the frame for the 20th time because of the wind. Sound 1-5: you're asleep. 5-10: groggy, hoping it stops on its own. 10-15: debating getting up but feeling too sleepy. 15-20: being too annoyed and it outweighs the sleep, so you go and fix the noise.

    Also this will only get you to exercise more, maybe. Your metabolism will still be slow because of hypothyroidism. There are some foods that naturally boost thyroid function, and some that are best eliminated from diet, but it's a weird and extensive list of common food items and I never used that since I just got on consistent meds as soon as I was diagnosed.

  • Okay ill be harsh: Get your bloody mental health sorted first, no amount of abuse, kindness, or thinking anything is an excuse is going to help. See a psychaiatrist and FIGURE OUT why you arent motivated to do things so you can fix it. Do the HARD mental work, so everything else is easier!!

  • I went from 350lbs to 180 doing this:

    Quit your "sit on your ass" style of job. I went with a construction labor position to replace my office job.

    I told myself "pain is an illusion, and you're stronger than any illusion" and "failure means death". The combination of those two mantras allowed me to power through the pain of being physically active for 10 straight hours 6 days a week

    Stop buying desirable food. Don't even keep it in the house. Make eating a chore. Canned tuna was my food of choice. I'd eat like 8 cans of tuna per day, and force myself to eat an apple or something to fight off scurvy.

    After about a year of that shit I became an average size dude.

    Losing weight isn't easy. It's not supposed to be. For most of human history, gaining weight was considered a desirable thing.

    This is also a great way to injure yourself and not be functionally fit at all. Pain is not an illusion. Good grief.

  • When you want to stop, use your anger as motivation. The thing is though you need a way to turn that anger into a positive reason. You can be upset with yourself for whatever you want from the past but if you're toxic to yourself, the mental toll will far outweigh any positive results. Real clarity will come when you have a reason to do and be better.

    Finding what works for you is also important through this. Figure out what foods and workouts you like. Enjoy what you do and it won't be as hard. Not saying healthy journeys are easy. Far from it.

    Only saying this as someone that experienced massive PTSD, depression, grief and anger and tried to use them all as motivation at the beginning of a long weight loss journey. This only led to failure in the end, and all of the small things I did accomplish didn't matter because I was so miserable. Find your peace and you'll succeed.

    I wish you well

  • You're confusing self-care with self-indulgence. Being kind to yourself isn't about eating whatever you want or skipping treatment; that's neglect. Being kind to yourself is about disciplining yourself so that the future you don't suffer because of the laziness of today's you. Stop seeking toxic motivation and start having some basic self-respect.

  • If you don't lose weight you will lose out on life.

    Simple. Straight to the point. Not necessarily harsh, reality check.

    Stop looking at a scale. Start listening to how your body feels.

    If you know something is bad for you, cut it out.

    Give yourself 1 day a week where you can eat anything you want.

    The remaining 6 days get off the couch, get outside and eat well.

    Stay hydrated. Don't compare yourself. Take care of yourself.

  • This isn't brutal. This isn't sugarcoating. This is factual: you don't sound like you've wanted to get your health under control. At least, not as much as you've wanted to "be nice to yourself." 

    Figure out why that is, you're the only one who can.

  • Hypothyroidism makes you feel unmotivated and causes weight gain. The condition will prevent you from losing weight because it slows down your metabolism. Make an appointment, get the meds, set a daily alarm and stick to the medication. Everything else needs to follow from this.

  • The harsh reality is that no amount of unkindness will get you on your journey.

    You must love yourself. You must understand you are worthy of that love. There's no other option. The neglect you're subjecting yourself to is not what you were born for. Your bad habits used to protect you, but now will only kill you. They've become self abuse.

    Caring for oneself feels like eating shit if you don't think you're worth it. That's why you're looking for harsh words. Cause the ugliest thing someone can write will feel better than admitting you're worth consistent care and attention. The toxicity is coming from inside the house. Admit it.

    Get therapy, and stop neglecting yourself.

  • When I exercise I think of everyday as adding to a highscore.
    You do different type of exercise everyday, any type of exercise counts.

  • If you keep this shit up, you're gonna be really miserable and die. 

    However, you have a chance right now to go down a different path. One where you feel pretty good. That's the deal. Take it or leave it.

  • I don't know how big you are but people's propensity to like you is directly related to your size and fitness. 

    Most of the world is trying to be nice by not saying that to you. Because you are fat.

    Also a friend of mine recently became a county coroner. He said every week they're trying to move someone who takes more than two people and need 3-4. When you die early - how many people will it take to move your carcass?

  • There is the lady on tiktok and ig who is great at this. She is a fitness instructor and nutritionist. Very beautiful, very blunt.

    Toni Fine, @finefitfitness_ and i think she has a react page that are superclips of her bluntly answering questions from the chat.

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  • A crazy-high percentage of people who have to enter assisted living (~70% iirc) do so because they can’t get themselves up from the toilet. They’re too weak and too fat to take themselves to the bathroom. Is that how you want to lose your independence?

  • I listen to David Goggins when unmotivated. My gym playlist is essentially him insulting me

  • Use tools to help you! Set reminders on your phone, get a Whoop to track your health.

    Also, remember that any forward progress is better than no progress! If all you can motivate yourself to do is walk, then go on a walk. 

  • Go on YouTube and type in David Goggins. You’re welcome. Daily toxic motivational abuse. He will even call you a little bitch sometimes. 🤣

  • Bro, you're probably in your late 20's or even 30's and you're asking the internet for motivation? You ask us to help you get out of bed, brush your teeth and take your little hand and drag you to the gym? You want me to fry your eggs and feed you like a child too when we get home? Grow up man. You're an adult. Act like one!

    I hope this was toxic enough :P

  • Im jjst about to read David goggins cant hurt me, might be motivational for you

  • Just look up David Goggins. In particular, his appearance on Huberman Lab, from a year or two ago. He's got what you need.

  • As a personal trainer and nutrition coach, there are definitely circumstances where this style can be effective, but it cannot come from a place of genuine harshness. 

    Telling you that you suck or what's wrong with you or any of those things are just damaging to the mind. 

    It has to be like a game.  Like professional wrestling. That you know it's a game.  And that when you do well, I acknowledge that you're doing well. 

    I am someone more like you actually.  I prefer blunt, no nonsense straightforward even if it's harsh.  There is a big difference between direct constructive criticism and insults.  There is nothing to be learned by an insult, but the truth is never offensive.  Life is supposed to hurt.  It's not healthy to try to avoid the truth. It's just rejecting reality.

    You need to reframe what you call toxic motivation to be more like you're looking for a drill sergeant who still can make you feel good when you've accomplished some goals and good tasks. 

    So some of the comments are making good points but missing your point.  There's nothing wrong with wanting people to be blunt if it's what you ask for.  You just need to also learn to accept some of the positivity associated with your wins.

    Since you have hypothyroidism, that would in theory make your caloric burn low, and potentially lower motivation.  Focusing on certain diet principles might be helpful more than just getting to the gym and busting your ass.  But exercise will help the mind be more focused and disciplined.

    On your feet soldier.  You can do this.  

  • We are very different people

  • Easy now, hard later, or hard now, easy later.

    You have to pick one. If you don't, one will get picked for you. And it won't be the one you like

  • Only relating to thyroid issues, I recommend checking out keto girl nutritionist. I was in the pre hypothyroid category after bloodwork & after following her meals & plan for 3 months, was back to normal & conceived my first baby, healthy pregnancy and delivery. I was in her fb group where she actually does help a lot of women reduce and even get off their thyroid meds. It’s honestly incredible stuff. And she talks about the extra stuff working against you to lose weight.

    https://ketogirlnutritionist.com

  • Untreated hypothyroidism can kill you decades early, due to the symptoms and their effects. The chances increase the longer you neglect your health.

    Take weight gain as an example. It can lead to diabetes, sleep apnoea, cardiovascular issues, increased fat around organs, cancer, and more. Each of them have their own risks. Go read up on what these are and how they can kill you, because they can. Everyone thinks they're the exception until it happens to them. It can happen to you. You can die from leaving this condition untreated. People die from preventable diseases every day.

    Or depression. Enjoy the lack of motivation, the lack of sleep, the worrying, the stress, the poor memory, and more. It can make weight issues worse, if you turn to comfort eating(as is common). Leave these issues untreated and they will take years off your life.

    Memory issues can make it harder for you to socialise and keep a job. Want that promotion the next year? Sucks for you. The memory issues you developed because you neglected your health, caused your work to suffer. The promotion passed to somebody else. Or maybe you need to study to improve your life prospects, but you can't pass a test. Or you forgot loved one's birthday or other important event. Enjoy the fallout and more stress.

    Ever wanted your face to look bloated like an alcoholic straight out of Disco Elysium? I have news for you. For the low price of not taking your medicine, you can have exactly this.

    These issues can make your feel worse about yourself and crush any remaining self-confidence, which isn't great for life in general. It can affect anything from friendships, romantic relationships, to work opportunities. Hair loss is a potential risk of hypothyroidism, which can affect your self-confidence as well. The reality is that you may end up looking less attractive. The unfairness of people judging you by your looks doesn't matter, because it happens, and you can't prevent people from using this to decide how they treat you.

    Oh, and you may go broke too. Addressing these issues aren't cheap even in countries with socialised medicine. But what is cheap, in comparison, is treating health issues before they become worse due to your neglect. Even if you won't suffer financially in major ways, you will suffer in other ways that you may not be able to undo. One body is all we have, and health is very easy to ruin and typically slow to recover, if even possible, which is no guarantee.

    If you get sick from your untreated hypothyroidism and need medicine to treat the condition, you will risk side effects and complications. If you end up having to take antibiotics, but do so inconsistently, then you'd risk antibiotics resistance, which can potentially be fatal due or life-impacting to the disease progressing due to not responding to treatment. The behaviour you reinforce becomes who you are. This is as true for both good and bad habits. For example, the habit of not taking your medicine consistently.

    You probably have a smartphone. Use it to set reminders to take your meds. Do it now as you read this, not later. Don't put things off. Procrastination is the death of your future self. It's one of the greatest disservices you can do to yourself. Get yourself a medicine sorter. Your local pharmacy should have them. Visit them now if you can, or order one online. They're very cheap and will help you keep track of the obligation to take care and heal thyself. Do it now.

    You know what you need to do. You've probably been adequately informed by your doctors already. Fucking listen to them. If you are an able-bodied and able-minded person, then you are the best person in the world to take care of yourself. Choose health or you will end up regretting your inaction like millions of people before you, who were told the bad news. You may not die from your untreated condition, but you will suffer - it's a guarantee in life. But you often get to choose the kind, and how to reduce the potential and potency.

    I will also say: be kind to yourself. The behaviour your reinforce becomes who you are. Choose to be a person who is kind to themselves. The rest will follow naturally.

  • If you're not any of the pretty people, you won't get privileges.

  • Decide you like you enough to stay alive! 

  • Shame is not a good motivator for human beings. You don't need toxic motivation, you need self-respect and self-accountability. Basically, you need tough love. This is a lesson I also had to learn, that being nice to yourself ≠ doing whatever you want forever and never being uncomfortable.

    And to clarify, when I say "tough love" I do not mean extreme diet and extreme exercise. That's just another form of self-disrespect and short-cutting, because when you take extreme measures like that, you're not committing to long-term change or improving your self-respect/accountability. Those extremist measures damage your ability to make meaningful progress, and just end up feeding into a toxic loop.

    You also need to practice acknowledging your own limiting factors (i.e. hypothyroidism) without letting them become an excuse. For example, I have a condition in the bones of my arms that makes it difficult for me to put weight on them, like when doing a high plank. This does not stop me from doing a plank exercise, it means that I need to do the plank exercise from my forearms. With hypothyroidism, it means taking your medication consistently and actually taking the time to research how that impacts your metabolism, and what a realistic calorie deficit looks like for you. It might also mean really taking the time to really self-reflect and figure out how it impacts your energy levels, and what steps you can take to work with it. (With your meds: Put them somewhere you can't forget them. Set an alarm on your phone. The part of you that does not want to take your medication needs to be treated like a resistant child. Be the parent.)

    And finally, the blunt, no-nonsense motivation that I can provide to you is that you need to start thinking about your future. You didn't mention your age in this post, but I assume you are younger or middle-aged. Your senior years are not guaranteed to you. Western society has aggressively normalized sedentary lifestyles, and it is costing people literal decades of their one wild and beautiful life. You deserve to live a long and healthy life, but the only person who decides if you get to have it is you. My father had a heart attack at the age of 54 that would have killed him if he hadn't been doing cardio 2-3 times/week for more than two years. He's going to turn 60 this year.

    Think about your bone density. If you don't lift weights, you are actively losing bone density and muscle mass in your middle age---especially if you're a woman. Osteoporosis is no joke. So don't just do it to lose weight and meet an aesthetic goal, do it so that you can get yourself off the toilet in your 70s and 80s.

    You deserve good things. You deserve a good life. So stop making excuses for yourself and go get what you deserve.

  • That will never be helpful. It makes you hate the process and it becomes a negative thing that you yo-yo back to. Keep your dignity and do it for health and wellness x

  • I lost 25kg doing OMAD for 3 years, and kept it off until i fell off the wagon, gained it all back and now i cant waste more time so i'm doing ADF diet, seeing great results losing weight fast, but it's not just the weight i also have more energy, brainfog gone, you get a lot of autophagy doing this, and i would say it's one of the best ways to lose weight.

    But i can say this, If you don't work on the mental bit, then nothing will work, yeah you might lose the weight with a diet, but after that you will gain it all back, you need a mindset shift, break mental loops that got you there in the first place, losing weight wont magically solve the problems.

  • Motivation is overrated. When I have done my best, I just took action. When I complained to myself or anything like that I would ask myself "well who the fuck asked you" " who said you have to like it" or "who said you have to feel like it?"

  • Being mean to yourself does not work either. Be ACCOUNTABLE to yourself for your own actions without turning to toxic self-abuse

  • The nagging guilt goes away as soon as you do the thing. Also there's pride right after. That feels good.

  • It can only get worse, unless you do something about it.

  • Decision: sit on sofa and watch YouTube or go lifts some weights.

    Decision: grab the Doritos or eat some protein and greens

    Decision: stay up late watching shit or get a good night's sleep

    It's all your own decision making. Reddit ain't gonna do it for you.

    I make loads of bad decisions. Just own the fact it's your decision.

  • How long are you going to let the warm embrace of comfort eat away at the person you could have become?

    What a waste.

  • If you say so....

    GET IT THE FUCK TOGETHER! you wanna end up with diabetes, where if your lucky you just have to take more fucking meds and stab yourself multiple times a day, and if unlucky have to watch everything you eat and calculate insulin injections where if dont take it you just fucking die?! And you know what else comes with diabetes? Eye problems, liver problems, and heart problems! You wanna end up like my fucking bio-dad who went blind, had multiple heart attacks and liver failure requiring dialisys? And while still following your current path not take care of that and die as well?! So i'll say it again, GET IT THE FUCK TOGETHER! 

    Seriously, your lifes worth more than 'not feeling like it'. 

  • Motivation doesn't need to be toxic to be effective

    Check out the ketogenic diet if you want a diet that you'll actually enjoy that is science based & efficient. There's a site called dietdoctor.com where there's tons of useful information, and if you do the free month trial, you'll find a lot of inspirational videos.