There should be laws against knowingly sharing misinformation. We need to get back to truth in this country or we are doomed. You can’t yell fire in a crowded theater and all these bad actors are manipulating the smooth brains to their whims. It’s gotta stop.
There should be laws against knowingly sharing misinformation. We need to get back to truth in this country or we are doomed.
Not sure about laws, but I understand. If Elon with Xitter or Zuckerberg with Facebook/Instagram truly cared about reducing propaganda & misinformation, they’d have better moderation in place.
If your social media account gets continuously noted by the community for pushing wildly different stories or blatant lies, moderators need to step in to review that. It shouldn’t be that hard.
Should lead to account removal. If you’re Eastern European running a maga account that trash talks half our country that shouldn’t exist. It’s silly to allow it.
Literally the first thing Elon did when he bought Twitter was fire the content moderation team. What is happening is very deliberate because it misinformation personally benefits Elon
I don’t disagree, but there are two problems with that: drawing the line between knowingly and unintentionally, and also categorizing misinformation vs misleading information. If you’re gonna make it law, those become challenging to distinguish.
I feel like I read a report a year or so ago that said 80% of disinformation was coming from a handful of accounts. We are being divided and it is only going to get easier as ai makes reality harder and harder to decipher.
Can’t find the exact article but here are a couple:
A two second search unassisted by “AI” disproves their claims. When you get told the truth and fail to confirm or outright deny truth as is often the case it veers into knowingly spreading misinformation.
Basically, you've got a crime that lives and dies by mens rea.
Like Tax Fraud- Almost impossible to prove that someones "Creative Accounting" was an attempt to defraud, rather than just flying too close to the sun. Ergo, all you can do is charge them a penalty.
Except unlike tax fraud, anyone CAN do it, just about everyone DOES do it at some point in time (You trying to tell me you've never made a post that basically echoes your preferred reality) and the courts simply don't have the bandwidth for a brand new category of crime that *absolutely* fail on first amendment grounds 9/10ths of the time.
The problem is that it’s become clear as day that the government is vulnerable to bad actors taking control, and if “spreading misinformation” becomes a crime, the government become the ones who get to decide what’s a fact and what’s misinformation. Now Trump gets to define what reality is, hitting you with a “misinformation” charge for saying things like ”J6 wasn’t a peaceful protest, it was an insurrection” or “Trump is on the Epstein list”.
Haha we are so unbelievably fucked right now. I genuinely have no idea how to pull those people into reality. I’m honestly hoping once their dear leader kicks the bucket it just kinda collapses, since he’s really the main thing unifying the right at the moment, but I’m sure that’s a bit too optimistic. After all, there are plenty of online echo chambers people can lock themselves in to try avoiding the truth as hard as they can.
Consequences, at least. The site that you spread misinformation on should suspend you for a week per infraction. Subsequent infractions should increase the suspension time by 50%.
also, for Brain's Breaking News, it would have been easier to just throw some sources when asked, tbh, instead of insulting directly. (but at the same time, anyone could've check if it's true, ESPECIALLY the last sad man arguing about a robot 3 times in a row.)
it would have been easier to just throw some sources
I wouldn't waste my time because anything Timmy Ten Names posts is invariably bollocks, they wouldn't read it anyway and even if they did they'd call it "fake news" per this example of not trusting the sources from Mecha-Hitler.
This is the exact problem with these chuckle fucks. They don’t want to believe they’re wrong, so they insist they are right with no evidence.
Just like Crowder with his “Prove me wrong” crap. That’s not how it works. If you make a claim, you need to be the one to back it up with evidence. I don’t care about your “feelings” on the subject.
"I want to believe this false narrative cause it supports my idea of the world and there is no way you can change that with your pesky facts and reality."
How come the fish face that said 10 were dead didn't provide their source? When Grok does it, they just dismiss it, but never provide where they got theirs from. Fucking idiots.
What is this mental disorder that allows for a person to just stridently choose to believe falsehoods in the face of objective reality? Cognitive dissonance?
This is becoming less and less funny as it is clear this is a phenomenon of human nature and as more and more misinformation, backed up by Deep Fake video and audio, is out there, we are just doomed as a species.
This is just how we are and when you mix social media algorithms with it, you get apocalyptic results.
It doesnt matter what source it uses. If it doesnt validate the answer they have already formed, the bot is woke or wrong. These people are idiots and probably deserve to be culled from the genepool.
"Legacy media isn't reporting it!"
(The "legacy media" is reporting it.)
"It's a conspiracy!"
"Mainstream media denying it's Muslim terrorism."
Absolutely no indication of Muslim terrorism.
"Mainstream media ignoring the evidence."
Seventeen verifiable sources show that it's an intoxicated driver.
"Apparently the perpetrator shouted Allahu akbar."
Person responsible was an active member of a local church.
"Evidence clearly shows they were intoxicated."
There should be laws against knowingly sharing misinformation. We need to get back to truth in this country or we are doomed. You can’t yell fire in a crowded theater and all these bad actors are manipulating the smooth brains to their whims. It’s gotta stop.
Not sure about laws, but I understand. If Elon with Xitter or Zuckerberg with Facebook/Instagram truly cared about reducing propaganda & misinformation, they’d have better moderation in place.
If your social media account gets continuously noted by the community for pushing wildly different stories or blatant lies, moderators need to step in to review that. It shouldn’t be that hard.
Should lead to account removal. If you’re Eastern European running a maga account that trash talks half our country that shouldn’t exist. It’s silly to allow it.
Well it did. Then Muskrat bought twitter.
Literally the first thing Elon did when he bought Twitter was fire the content moderation team. What is happening is very deliberate because it misinformation personally benefits Elon
Fine them like the EU just did to Twitter
The fine isn’t even worth a penny relative to Elon‘s net worth
It was like what 120 million or something right? Should be at the very least 1 billion
If Elon had to pay 120 million every year in fines
And he never earned another dollar
It would take 4166 years for Elon personally to run out of money
I don’t disagree, but there are two problems with that: drawing the line between knowingly and unintentionally, and also categorizing misinformation vs misleading information. If you’re gonna make it law, those become challenging to distinguish.
I feel like I read a report a year or so ago that said 80% of disinformation was coming from a handful of accounts. We are being divided and it is only going to get easier as ai makes reality harder and harder to decipher.
Can’t find the exact article but here are a couple:
https://www.techtimes.com/articles/305042/20240527/social-media-study-finds-small-number-accounts-drive-fake-news-x.htm
https://www.npr.org/2021/05/13/996570855/disinformation-dozen-test-facebooks-twitters-ability-to-curb-vaccine-hoaxes
A two second search unassisted by “AI” disproves their claims. When you get told the truth and fail to confirm or outright deny truth as is often the case it veers into knowingly spreading misinformation.
Basically, you've got a crime that lives and dies by mens rea.
Like Tax Fraud- Almost impossible to prove that someones "Creative Accounting" was an attempt to defraud, rather than just flying too close to the sun. Ergo, all you can do is charge them a penalty.
Except unlike tax fraud, anyone CAN do it, just about everyone DOES do it at some point in time (You trying to tell me you've never made a post that basically echoes your preferred reality) and the courts simply don't have the bandwidth for a brand new category of crime that *absolutely* fail on first amendment grounds 9/10ths of the time.
Don't make it a law that punishes users. The law should mandate that social media sites punish deliberate misinformation spreaders.
A suspension seems appropriate for the first few offenses, then a ban.
The problem is that it’s become clear as day that the government is vulnerable to bad actors taking control, and if “spreading misinformation” becomes a crime, the government become the ones who get to decide what’s a fact and what’s misinformation. Now Trump gets to define what reality is, hitting you with a “misinformation” charge for saying things like ”J6 wasn’t a peaceful protest, it was an insurrection” or “Trump is on the Epstein list”.
Ah you’re right. So we are just gonna have to be fucked!
Yep, basically! :D
Haha we are so unbelievably fucked right now. I genuinely have no idea how to pull those people into reality. I’m honestly hoping once their dear leader kicks the bucket it just kinda collapses, since he’s really the main thing unifying the right at the moment, but I’m sure that’s a bit too optimistic. After all, there are plenty of online echo chambers people can lock themselves in to try avoiding the truth as hard as they can.
" I didnt know it was fake"
See how easy that is to say? Im nit even lying about something but it's still easy to say
Wouldn't work because it's just a metric for someone to get around while exploiting it for their own ends.
Consequences, at least. The site that you spread misinformation on should suspend you for a week per infraction. Subsequent infractions should increase the suspension time by 50%.
Infraction consequences reset after 2 years.
U know in actual countries with good laws there is a law against spreading fake news but I guess the US is so free they don't need this
It does butt up against the first amendment and who gets to decide what “truth” is.
I guess the facts decides what is true or not?
Yes but what about the alternative facts!?
Sorry i think u mispronounced mental gymnastics
Jesus himself could appear in front of them to confirm and they wouldn’t believe what they don’t want to
They'd call ICE on him.
That dude belongs to the "Do your own research" crowd but refuses to do so himself, and doesnt accept factual info.
Being this illiterate must be hard.
also, for Brain's Breaking News, it would have been easier to just throw some sources when asked, tbh, instead of insulting directly. (but at the same time, anyone could've check if it's true, ESPECIALLY the last sad man arguing about a robot 3 times in a row.)
I wouldn't waste my time because anything Timmy Ten Names posts is invariably bollocks, they wouldn't read it anyway and even if they did they'd call it "fake news" per this example of not trusting the sources from Mecha-Hitler.
This is the exact problem with these chuckle fucks. They don’t want to believe they’re wrong, so they insist they are right with no evidence.
Just like Crowder with his “Prove me wrong” crap. That’s not how it works. If you make a claim, you need to be the one to back it up with evidence. I don’t care about your “feelings” on the subject.
Ignorance can be educated, but you can't fix stupid.
These fuckers really want the world to be an awful place.
Grok is healing, slowly and steadily.
"I want to believe this false narrative cause it supports my idea of the world and there is no way you can change that with your pesky facts and reality."
Is this tru?
No, it seems to be disinformation.
https://i.redd.it/qfe2hgxvjt5g1.gif
Nah it isn't an accident.
If you drink and drive, any murder you commit behind the wheel is intentional. Why? Because you chose to drink and drive.
The right's "own research" in action.
Why do these people argue with gronk ?
How come the fish face that said 10 were dead didn't provide their source? When Grok does it, they just dismiss it, but never provide where they got theirs from. Fucking idiots.
Why do these mouth breathers ask grok then argue with it when it proves them wrong 😂
i’m pretty sure “i don’t believe you” is trolling…but who trolls a robot that doesn’t care that you’re making a “joke”
to be clear, i still think that dude i a huge idiot…i’m just not sure they are being sincere
The "Facts don't care about your Feelings"-crowd can't stand getting their feelings fact-checked.
And this is why it’s a waste of time trying to reason with these people
What is this mental disorder that allows for a person to just stridently choose to believe falsehoods in the face of objective reality? Cognitive dissonance?
This is becoming less and less funny as it is clear this is a phenomenon of human nature and as more and more misinformation, backed up by Deep Fake video and audio, is out there, we are just doomed as a species.
This is just how we are and when you mix social media algorithms with it, you get apocalyptic results.
It doesnt matter what source it uses. If it doesnt validate the answer they have already formed, the bot is woke or wrong. These people are idiots and probably deserve to be culled from the genepool.
Grok could post the police report and they still wouldn't believe it.