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How can i score higher than tier 20 on mjolnir strikes? I get to 20, barely, then go back to 19, back & forth. Auto-create says the highest i can get is 828. Do i need more merges on mythic heroes to get a higher score (most other spots are +10 grail units w max arena scoring)? I just don't know what else to do to increase my score. đ€
Yeah, merged Mythics are the separating factor in this mode. Many players will be able to fill each column with at least one +10 unit with decent Arena score. Since Mythics functionally have +5 or +10 merges, you want to replace the lowest scorers with them as appropriate.
Thanks.
I thought the datamine would tell who would be in the next HoF?
Thereâs no data to mine. Come back in 12 hours.
I'd give my thoughts, but everyone else already summarized what I was gonna say.
Anyway on to more fun things!
About the recent pegasus knight banner: what if the theme is less about pegasus knights (but different country/culture/game) and more about a specific class? Instead of Silesse being the next one itâs all cavaliers. Or mages. Gotta admit though, with Khadein already having a focus, I donât know whatâs more iconic than the literal school of magic. Maybe they will pick Engage for the belly window.
Was there no posts about the refines or did I just miss them? Iâm really curious about how good Fomo and Gonzales are since theyâre some of my favorites and I have them at +10, but itâs far too late for me to read FEH descriptions rn
Fomo & Nifl were the best, IMO & from comments I read. Seidr gets an honorable mention (wasn't crap, but nothing special). None were amazing, but those were better than average.
Yeah you missed them. Fomoâs is solid when combined with his remix since he now grants Imbue and pretty good amounts of DR (25 on follow ups with 15 on foeâs special proc) as well as Fringe Bonus for the stats he needs to work as a Mythic save
Gonzalez⊠yeaaaaaah⊠heâs in Arcane waiting roomâŠ
So we're like 6 months away from a brigand boss refine. Realistically it's the exact same weapon as Gonzalez. But if he gets a better refine than Gonzalez, it's official that IS hates fe6 more than our meme picks.
TL;DR - What is a good B skill replacement for lĂŠradr? I will keep barricade on him for the warp blocking (i will likely have to remove brave eik on that team & replace him w winter Alfred, because LĂŠradr's Res is too high, since he has a Res boon). is shield fighter+ pavise/aegis pretty ineffective now, with the prevalence of brave hits? I have other discord sources, so I don't need that part of his prf. I basically want survival. Would slick or wily fighter be an upgrade for him? It at least gives more true DR, but loses the stat debuffs.
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I'm thinking about replacing loki on my AR dark defense team, because when i eventually put Heimdallr on my team, Loki can screw the stall effect if she gets rid of the +1 movement buff on units. LĂŠradr is the replacement.
I've seen people using a save on LĂŠradr, but I think not being able to raise his stats like i can a blessed unit would make him less useful than a blessed save. I also don't have any inheritances for saves except A/D twin near & far save that i have on attuned Hector, & the fomortis manual w a/d briar far save & shield fighter.
Edit (added more information & rearranged post): I have an extra NY nidhoggr that i got recently, but i really wanted to put sturdy beast on freyr since i already have momentum & a/d excel on him. I have no beast elite inheritances, or other sources of sturdy beast or slick fighter. I do have an extra Valentine's Rhea for lower ground, if it would be worth considering with a shield fighter build. I hate not being able to test builds, so i usually don't bother. Nothing seems to work as well as i hoped, especially save wise, so i just use newer default save builds. I recently put dragon ice & twin save on Rhea, but haven't used her yet, since she's on my anima season.
So for Shield Fighter at least, that still works against Brave hits so long as he does Marth Engage to ensure the recharge for the second hit. Fourth hit and Potent do cause issues though. Still best option for pure survival though since other special DR would have the same issues, but worse
Also yeah, if you donât need Discord, a fighter skill would be an upgrade defensively. In-combat debuffs amount to a max of 14, while all the tier 4 fighter skills do at least -4 attack and any of the ones with 20% def DR would give him at least 8 with his base 44 def and like 9 from Counter Fighter doing 15% of his 64 with weapon.
So itâs only like one or two of mitigation, but a majority of it goes further with how it interacts with percentage DR
Very helpful, thanks.
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I think this is the best build? But I have spent like 9 torches trying to get the fatal smoke 4 for the C slot that the guide says is better then the A/S Hone Assault. I have 2 torches left and 2 days left, should I use those 12 tries to get it or no? Do I need to do a different floor then 25?
Anything else I should change about the build as well?
I would prefer incite hone because i have less units with that status on my teams, & lots who give the 50% DR piercing. Fatal smoke 4 is older & easier to get, as it's on a rearmed unit & also was a free manual recently.Â
Also, i would prefer a/s favor for a B skill because of empathy & the +7 dmg for allies. Support based forma units last much longer, it seems, than combat focused.
Whatever works best for your squad is what u should get, IMO. I just choose based on rarity if I'm unsure how I would use the unit. The build u have is great, IMO. A different floor wouldn't help get the skill u want, because u get only 2 choices instead of 3 on other floors. A different time of day is what seems to help me when i use lots of torches at once & can't get a skill. It usually helps, but not always. If u prefer a different skill on her, it's definitely worth using the torches to try & get it if you're not building other units to get, also.
When I search for Fatal Smoke 4 in my barracks, it only shows up on one character, no manuals. How is it easy and plentiful?
Who gives the 50% DR piercing? Is that from the Fatal Smoke 4?
So A/S Favor is better then Spd/Res Shackle? Which is rarer/harder to get outside of the HoF if I need to get both?
And yeah only building Bernie
Fatal smoke 4 is available on winter yunaka, which os available as a free limited time manual from divine codes (allies menu>compile>limited time) it's too late to earn the divine codes to redeem it (had through the January update, i think the 5th or 6th). It's also available on rearmed ginnungagap in divine code 5 manuals (allies>compile>normal 5), which is free (no orbs required). The other 2 skills actually take orbs to get right now & are much newer. Fatal smoke isn't plentiful, it's just easier to get than the other 2 options on the guide.
The "hone assault" u have on her gives 50% DR, piercing, as does a/s favor (after using an assist skill). "Incite Hone" gives incite. Those 2 & fatal smoke 4 are the 3 suggestions shown on the guide on reddit by coolestmagicalcat, so i assumed u were using the same guide.
A/S favor has only ever been on ferox marth (it's actually lucina in a marth mask), & is rare since she's only available in special events). Spd/res shackle is on vali (mythic, only available in mythic banner) & brave sharena (available in the normal pool, so can be randomly pulled from a green orb during any event), so favor is more rare. It depends if u want extra damage for allies (favor), or extra debuffs on enemies (shackle). Both give extra dmg to the unit using theb skill, but favor also gives special cooldown to unit & the ally who targets/is targeted by the movement skill. Favor needs to be paired with a movement assist, like reposition, but that's easy to get outside of hall of forms. It's also best with the Micaiah emblem, so the unit can still attack after using the movement skill on an ally. Either would be good, tho, i don't think u should be disappointed if u don't get anything other than what u have.Â
Edit: If u don't have any way to get fatal smoke 4 on her anytime soon, that would probably be preferable to me in practice to use her in battle, as opposed to just getting whatever was more rare (if i had to choose between fatal smoke 4 & a/s favor with your last torches, I mean, I would go for fatal smoke 4 if u can't get it on her another way). It's still very useful these days.
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So keep the res support, just switch for reposition after I get her? (got a Barte yesterday woohoo đ)
And just switch her B to A/S Favor. Does it do anything if I keep the res support or itâs useless unless I have reposition?
Actually, i was mistaken, favor does actually work on a rally or movement skill. I was thinking it was just movement (there are some that are only one or the other, but favor is both). Yes, I'd keep the Res+ even if u plan to use a movement assist, cuz movement skills are definitely easier to come by (at least the vanilla ones like reposition. The gait versions are much more rare. worst case, u can use grails to get a unit with a movement skill if u don't get anyone extra by the time u need it).
yes, personally, i would go for favor if u have torches left, if i were u. What u already have is very good, tho, so don't be too discouraged if u don't get one or the other. Others may prefer shackle, so favor isn't necessarily better, just different. Stacking debuffs on enemies can be useful, but i just prefer helping my allies do more damage, because eventually the new units will get so overpowered that the forma unit can't damage them. When that happens, Bernadetta can still be very useful as a support unit with her paranoia buff & giving empathy & extra damage to newer, overpowered allies. That's the main reason I would prefer favor. As support, fatal smoke wouldn't do her much good, but if she can give out other statuses like incite or 50% DR piercing (from incite Hone or hine assault C skills), that will probably be more useful long term, as opposed to using her for combat. Fatal smoke would be great if u plan to use her in combat, tho, & don't have access to it elsewhere.Â
I got summer Edelgard a few months back, for example, & i wish i didn't now because she needs a refine & can barely damage newer units, if at all. I don't think u will have this issue with a support based Bernadetta.
Ahh ok. So I should more try to focus support with forma builds then. Thank you so much for explaining (even though I donât fully understand a lot of it and probably wonât remember a lot, I think I can remember some)
Thank you so much! Stay safe and be blessed đđ»
You're welcome. Sorry my replies are so long, but i include the stuff that helped me. I would focus on support for units that make sense, if u want them to last longer. Bernadetta is just perfect for that, but my Edelgard, for instance, didn't really have support options. Take care.
In the midst of lifting and moving heavy shit, the croc and duck are all set for shiny hatching! Just gotta survive today first...
Chompers and Toothpaste! đ
Oh lord it does look like toothpaste. O.o
I swear these developers are slower than an ass full of molasses with releasing the main story chapters
We get one a month, like we have for the games entire lifespan. Idk why youâre expecting anything different
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(It wouldn't allow me to insert more than 1 pic on mobile browser, so i just used a link instead, for the rest)
Can someone help me figure out what harmonic Ike has that prevents null counter? Sakura should be able to attack without being countered, but it doesn't work against Ike for some reason & I don't see how when reading the skills. I'm sure I'm missing something. I always had him paired with fallen female alear in AR defense, but maybe that's not necessary?đ€
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It's in his special for whatever reason (same with Emblem Ike IIRC)
Desert Ike has a Null C special as well
Ahh, i see it now. Emblem Ike's is in his weapon (i just read it probably 10 times cuz i didn't see it, đ, but I missed harmonic ike's after reading it several times, too. I finally gave up & read his other skills). I guess it being mentioned in the "deep wounds" portion caused me to kinda skim over that part, thinking it was just explaining what deep wounds was. đ€ŠđŒââïž Thank you. I guess i can rearrange my AR-D strategy.
Edit: FWIW, now the option to add a pic via browser on mobile seems to work easily by just swapping to desktop mode. In the past, i had to force stop the browser, reload, & other tricks to make it show up, & even then it wasn't always clickable. This time I, didn't even need to restart the browser for it to show up & function. đđ» I guess that's progress.Â
Time to spark!
Seidr or Gatekeeper? I'm leaning for Gatekeeper because another green cav seems boring. But I also really, really hate the PvP now and it makes me want to uninstall the game.
Seidr is just the better and more unique unit . Gatekeeper is a strong save unit up to curren standards, and his Share Spoils status is useful, but Seidrâs self-refresh with Favor, support , and turn locking are all really powerful tools in one unit. The last is very rare, and both other Seidrs have been powerful units for years with it alone.
If youâre not going to play the PvP modes (which may be the best for you) thereâs no real standard to hold any units up to. Theyâre both certainly good. If you do, Seidr will give you more of an edge because sheâs way less replaceable.
Whoever you are, "I give 20 pts" in Summoner Duels, I hope your pulls are blessed and your life happy
I don't play SD that often, but how is this accomplished? Is that when they allow u to get a kill even when they're going to beat u? I always try to let the opponent get a kill when they have only 1 or 2 units left, but sometimes they can't damage my units at that point.
In this case, they had a team of low levels and just autobattled to let me win.
Ahh, ok. Yes, i usually see people with "-auto" in their name (or something similar), which allowed me to win easily. I plan to try that method eventually so I can at least get the divine codes rewards, but I haven't had the time or patience yet.Â
Those are the best people
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He's so adorable.
Any Grail units that are good to build up right now?
My opinion:
There may be more, but these are the ones I can think of right now.
OK, ok.... on your list...
Thank you for your input. It's great having people like you giving your insights.
One thing Iâd add is that statwise, Chulainn is like slightly worse Ogma, having more HP (+5) for slightly worse def (-4) and slightly worse attack/res (-1 at neutral, -2 attack with boons) at full flowers for both so he might be a better alternative if you want to save grails/give others Arena sword