But! I just watched your blog and found out you’re gay. Tim, for years I’ve been on my own struggle for identity, and found a kinship with your games. An always unpublished artist that just wants to say thank you, in these really dark times. I cried learning that something I love so much is made by someone just like me.
If you have an email, please let me know: or anywhere I can send mail, or contact you privately. I’d like to thank you properly, with prose not written through tears. Also the formatting of the haiku was off and I’d feel too, too, too remiss to not resubmit without proper formatting; I can feel Wilde sipping tea on my shoulder now. I’m at such a loss for words. I edited it above anyway though. If you’re too busy for the little ones ~
If the DM doesn’t work: I guess I really just wanted to say thank you. So much. Fallout was one of the first games where being gay wasn’t something that was foreign or demonized in game. And it was the first franchise I fell in love with as a kid, New Vegas and Fallout 1 in particular. I loved the games so much that I ran a 64 player slot server in Garry’s Mod (Source based sandbox game) in which we, essentially, ran a Fallout themed role play server, with SWEPS, props, and all the other objects that went with it. And to learn that it was made by someone of my cloth?? Floored. I cannot deSCRIBE to you the headache I have right now after all the tears of joy. Migraine, even.
I don’t know where to go to get published. If you know even a vague direction, or even a suggestion, a nothing: let me know. Either way, I know who I can think for keeping the fire lit for just a little bit longer.
Thank you, so so much Tim. And as promised (to Wilde), the fully formatted haiku:
It won’t let me start or send a DM to you: when I click the message prompt it takes me to another window? Should that be happening? If not, I ask you to send a small hello first, if only so I can reply tenfold in fivefold kind
Hey if this is your actual reddit I just want to say how interesting it is to listen to you talk about game development. You've been very entertaining while I walk the dog or do chores.
Sounds like Tim is just stupid, lazy, and greedy! /s
But for real, it's nice to see him come out with such a level headed take. I can't even remember how many times I've been told I'm "part of the problem" for liking and supporting a game that is currently profitable to shit on for clicks. And it's like, what do you mean? I like this! I want more stuff like this. Me supporting it is the most likely outcome to me getting more of what I want.
If that is a "problem" for someone, that's their issue. I'm not somehow crippling the whole industry or preventing games that someone else would like. I'm so tired of this attitude of "well I'm not being a dick, I'm holding developers accountable to make them do better!" No, you aren't lol.
If you don't like a game, find a different game. It is not a hard thing to do!
Trouble is everyone sees themselves as the one NOT arguing. You saying you like X, isn't arguing but neither is someone saying X is trash is garbage
What your talking about isn't not arguing it's just not expressing negativity which is a different topic but I can understand why emotionally they seem related
Basically the above: Tim makes some really good points about the nature of arguing in the industry, why it happens, why differing opinions occur, and the very nature of conflicts that arise. Neat perspective from our Vault Boy/lead developer of Fallout 1
Social media is no longer organized nor devised for the sharing of opinions to be received with consideration and context with discussion of the topic in a measured and analytical way.
Social media encourages fanatical tribalism, reactionary rage, and as Mike Tyson so wisely opined; "Social media made y'all way too comfortable with disrespecting people and not getting punched in the face for it."
I’ve been following your channel for a while now and I just wanted to say thank you for sharing your thoughts there. And for creating what has become my favourite game series over the years. Massive love, Tim! 🫶
I very much agree with Tim about the fact that different people have different preferences and tolerances, and that often conflicting opinions are minimized or denied.
I guess to relate it to Fallout since we're here, one big sticking point in the fandom is "how much should society have reorganized/redeveloped." There's no objectively correct answer.
Some people think the "point" of Fallout or the "good parts" or what have you, is the struggle to survive. Once you've cleaned the water, defeated the villain, etc. and society can start to grow beyond small towns the interesting part is over. To paraphrase, "the Western ends when the train comes to town."
Other people think the "good parts" of Fallout are the "post-post-apocalypse." Society has moved beyond scavenging for canned food and living in meagre settlements. They want to see what kind of nations will be built from the ruins.
I don't think either of these are wrong perspectives, but its very difficult (at best) for one piece to do both. Ideally, you could just buy a different game, but that butts into another point that Tim made, which is finding what you want. There's so many games out there that you may never hear of.
The irony being how people say games are woke these days and this gay gentleman produced one of the best games ever made, where woke and political correctness was an afterthought.
I mean, the game is pretty firm in its morale stance, with what gives good and bad karma. If anything, it is woke, but not trying to sell you on the idea.
Tim Cain my beloved
He literally posted this today and made a blog last week/two weeks ago calling out ‘certain online communities’ he HAS to be here
HI TIM
Hello!
wait wtf lmao
That’s THE Tim Cain. He’s a lovely man that pops in from time to time ~
Hi Tim, it's us, the fans.
Thanks for being cool
He came out of a fifty day hibernation just to give a depressed fan affirmation. He’s a man of the fucking people.
Tim Cain for the King of Video games!
Queen for sure ~
Whatever title he'd prefer lol
Oh shit!!! The man himself!!!
HOLY FUCKING SHIT TIM FUCKING CAIN OH MY GOD
IN MY BRIEF TIME I CAN TALK TO YOU
I’m a queer poet and haiku writer (see:
i’ve already lost
the woman of my dreams;
why do you think he stays there?
)
But! I just watched your blog and found out you’re gay. Tim, for years I’ve been on my own struggle for identity, and found a kinship with your games. An always unpublished artist that just wants to say thank you, in these really dark times. I cried learning that something I love so much is made by someone just like me.
And I’m doing it again right now.
Thank you too. Keeping writing your poetry, and I will keep making games.
Tim. I don’t think you understand how much this means to me. I’m literally sobbing ;-;
I understand a little. I have had a chance to talk with Gary Gygax and Lord British, and I know how that made me feel. I felt seen.
You are seen, Strategis.
If you have an email, please let me know: or anywhere I can send mail, or contact you privately. I’d like to thank you properly, with prose not written through tears. Also the formatting of the haiku was off and I’d feel too, too, too remiss to not resubmit without proper formatting; I can feel Wilde sipping tea on my shoulder now. I’m at such a loss for words. I edited it above anyway though. If you’re too busy for the little ones ~
I am reticent to provide my email or other direct contact information, but you can DM me here. I will see it.
If the DM doesn’t work: I guess I really just wanted to say thank you. So much. Fallout was one of the first games where being gay wasn’t something that was foreign or demonized in game. And it was the first franchise I fell in love with as a kid, New Vegas and Fallout 1 in particular. I loved the games so much that I ran a 64 player slot server in Garry’s Mod (Source based sandbox game) in which we, essentially, ran a Fallout themed role play server, with SWEPS, props, and all the other objects that went with it. And to learn that it was made by someone of my cloth?? Floored. I cannot deSCRIBE to you the headache I have right now after all the tears of joy. Migraine, even.
I don’t know where to go to get published. If you know even a vague direction, or even a suggestion, a nothing: let me know. Either way, I know who I can think for keeping the fire lit for just a little bit longer.
Thank you, so so much Tim. And as promised (to Wilde), the fully formatted haiku:
i’ve already lost
the woman of my dreams;
why do you think he stays there?
What a legend.
Thank you for everything. I'm a huge fan of Fallout! (Both the first game and the series as a whole!)
It won’t let me start or send a DM to you: when I click the message prompt it takes me to another window? Should that be happening? If not, I ask you to send a small hello first, if only so I can reply tenfold in fivefold kind
Hi Tim!
You mother Hubbard!
Hi there!
Its him! The funny Fallout 1 shortcut face guy! Holy shit!
Hey if this is your actual reddit I just want to say how interesting it is to listen to you talk about game development. You've been very entertaining while I walk the dog or do chores.
Sounds like Tim is just stupid, lazy, and greedy! /s
But for real, it's nice to see him come out with such a level headed take. I can't even remember how many times I've been told I'm "part of the problem" for liking and supporting a game that is currently profitable to shit on for clicks. And it's like, what do you mean? I like this! I want more stuff like this. Me supporting it is the most likely outcome to me getting more of what I want.
If that is a "problem" for someone, that's their issue. I'm not somehow crippling the whole industry or preventing games that someone else would like. I'm so tired of this attitude of "well I'm not being a dick, I'm holding developers accountable to make them do better!" No, you aren't lol.
If you don't like a game, find a different game. It is not a hard thing to do!
For real, he seems like such a kind man ugh <3
Trouble is everyone sees themselves as the one NOT arguing. You saying you like X, isn't arguing but neither is someone saying X is trash is garbage
What your talking about isn't not arguing it's just not expressing negativity which is a different topic but I can understand why emotionally they seem related
Basically the above: Tim makes some really good points about the nature of arguing in the industry, why it happens, why differing opinions occur, and the very nature of conflicts that arise. Neat perspective from our Vault Boy/lead developer of Fallout 1
It's impossible to please everyone all the time.
Social media is no longer organized nor devised for the sharing of opinions to be received with consideration and context with discussion of the topic in a measured and analytical way.
Social media encourages fanatical tribalism, reactionary rage, and as Mike Tyson so wisely opined; "Social media made y'all way too comfortable with disrespecting people and not getting punched in the face for it."
I’ve been following your channel for a while now and I just wanted to say thank you for sharing your thoughts there. And for creating what has become my favourite game series over the years. Massive love, Tim! 🫶
I very much agree with Tim about the fact that different people have different preferences and tolerances, and that often conflicting opinions are minimized or denied.
I guess to relate it to Fallout since we're here, one big sticking point in the fandom is "how much should society have reorganized/redeveloped." There's no objectively correct answer.
Some people think the "point" of Fallout or the "good parts" or what have you, is the struggle to survive. Once you've cleaned the water, defeated the villain, etc. and society can start to grow beyond small towns the interesting part is over. To paraphrase, "the Western ends when the train comes to town."
Other people think the "good parts" of Fallout are the "post-post-apocalypse." Society has moved beyond scavenging for canned food and living in meagre settlements. They want to see what kind of nations will be built from the ruins.
I don't think either of these are wrong perspectives, but its very difficult (at best) for one piece to do both. Ideally, you could just buy a different game, but that butts into another point that Tim made, which is finding what you want. There's so many games out there that you may never hear of.
This man is a treasure.
Tim is an absolute class act and a real boon for gaming and for Fallout.
The irony being how people say games are woke these days and this gay gentleman produced one of the best games ever made, where woke and political correctness was an afterthought.
I mean, the game is pretty firm in its morale stance, with what gives good and bad karma. If anything, it is woke, but not trying to sell you on the idea.