Hello, there is something that has been on my mind a lot and I finally decided to use the perspective and knowledge of those around me to maybe get closer to the answer.

The studies of nature of reality, as well as spiritual teachings and NDE reports talk about lack of mortality in a sense we view it. It's just neverending journey. When you drive a car thinking "this is all that is" then you are terrified of ever finding yourself outside of the car, but when the car inevitably stops, it is not an end of your journey but much better continuation because finally you have arrived to a destination so much more spacious and vibrant than the insides of the car. You are in a amusement park or shopping mall full of wonders wherever you look and now you can hardly imagine yourself ever going back in.

Many sources state that we can do anything in those spaces, that they are what we would call a personal Heaven and yet we compare it to our human perspective and NHI experiences viewed through our lenses and it just doesn't make sense. So many NHI are bent to reach their goals, so many others are deeply connected to planets they are from, some briming with life, some abandoned and desolate. Those are highly advanced beings, not only technologically, but also spiritually and magically and yet they toil towards their missions even though they should be aware how unneeded it is if what we know about "spaces" beyond is true. Why spend millennia trying to save a planet that exists in innumerable amounts of alternative realities that are different only in most unimportant details if they can just go there? Why repair DNA, save your species, make hybrids or whatever else if they can just end a life and enter a space of availability of everything that ever was and ever will be?

So at one hand we have a concept of limitless space that gives you access to all of history from "past" and "future" additionally with access to alternative versions of them making it the actual space of access to everything and on the other we have highly advanced intelligences behaving as if it's not the case and if they were confined by limits of space, time, chronology and slow advancements. Why would they do all this if all they supposedly have to do is just finishing a life?

Thank you for your perspectives and Merry Christmas

  • Life has existed forever and its current scope is infinite. Conscious beings wherever they find themselves are happiest when their actions align with promoting life.

  • Perhaps these spiritually or intellectually advanced species still have an attachment to the idea of a body/species. An identification with body and desire for continuation of species keeps them within the illusion of duality. Spiritually advanced doesn't mean spiritually perfect, and species that have an intellectual understanding of the essential oneness of beings via consciousness may still lack the direct experience of that oneness that would burn away all those beliefs. In Hinduism/buddhism even the gods/deities bow down to one who conquers their mind and realizes the supreme truth, the formless infinite, for even the heavens are still within the realms of name and form which fall under the manifest creation (Maya), it's existence being illusory.

    This is why I would caution those who anticipate disclosure day and it's following events, or the "next big thing" as the giant spiritual evolution they've been waiting for all their lives, to redirect their attention inwards. The Truth if it is absolute and eternal is not something that is in the past or the future, it is always present. No event or thing can give you that experience which is fundamentally an internal one; at most all it can do Is shake up your belief systems and encourage you to look within to realize the truth yourself. Technology may advance and knowledge on the relationship between physical and spiritual matters may be revealed, I'm not denying that this a necessary and positive step forward for humanity, but the direct experience of the TRUTH which transcends knowledge and intellect is what ultimately sets one free.

  • Based on my encounters only which have been both with NHI/UAPs- orbs, grays and other beings but also a paranormal side that includes shadow beings, cryptids, shapeshifting beings. I believe it is all somehow connected to a Divine Consciousness. There is so much more to what we call our physical reality.

  • My attempt at an analogy , You come from a old world city with all the comforts like a bakery . Lots of variety in styles of say cakes . 26 billion years of creating cake , but they aren’t done new ingredients new flavors new ovens and have’t baked one yet , or waiting to try the latest , or didn’t like the results and move to a new world city and start all over again . What’s another 26 billion years to get the most wonderful delicious cake ever … it’s just unbelievable is it not ?

    I think it was in the aliens sub the NHI said they were here for the pizza , deep dish or thin crust , not specified .

    Me I’m just waiting for directions … to next cake/pie

  • This is something I also think about quite often although from a slightly different angle, in the context of trying to understand how the NHI and what we call the afterlife relate to each other. I have read over a thousand NDE experiences and several books on the topic. It is quite clear to me that our world is some sort of a simulation where our souls are sent by some "authority" that resides in the afterlife.

    Now, how do the NHI beings fit into this simulation? Are they in it or above it? First of all, I believe the answer is not simple because the term NHI is a blanket term for huge array of vastly different entities. Second of all, I believe the answer is far too complex for our human minds to understand. By design, the true nature of reality is unknowable to us.

    But I feel fairly certain that at least some kinds of NHI entities are in this simulation with us. This is because they are so worried about the environment and us destroying it. They seem to think it's real. Also, the whole creation of hybrids thing, like you said, why would they be toiling towards that goal?

    On the other hand some kinds NHI do seem to have more insight into/connection to the afterlife than us humans, which from our perspective muddies the waters.

  • Consider that there might be a ??? amount of spirits who wish to experience life in the material plane. Human (or human-adjacent hybrid) life on Earth on the material plane might offer something quite unique so that there would be let's say a gazillion spirits who are interested. And there are only ~8 billion of us: getting to inhabit a human would be a rather rare and precious opportunity which no sensible spirit would waste. Therefore it would make perfect sense that some collectives are very interested in maintaining availability of vehicles that can host a spirit.

    Why not jump to another universe's Earth? It would make perfect sense to me that another universe has its own gazillions of spirits in queue to get to their Earth, or a barren desert Earth might have no spirits waiting to get in but no humans left either.

  • I believe on this earth you can grow (or fade), using your energy for your non material body and become more than you were. So they help or hinder us in our journies. And they invest a lot doing it.

  • Well no one has answered this one so far, so I’ll try! I’ve been trying to figure this out myself. Here are my current thoughts:

    I’ve been trying to figure out what the afterlife is like based on conjecture using NDEs and using statements that the dead tell mediums about it. After all, if we can figure out what the afterlife is like, we can identify what brings us to Earth. My suspicion based on reading hundreds of accounts is that your understanding is correct—it’s a wonderful place where we return to our most glorious and primal form, which is quite unlike our human incarnation, and we can engage in all sorts of blissful and harmonious interactions.

    My personal understanding of NHI comes from Carl Jung, which is that NHI are archetypes that emerge from the personal or collective unconscious, and wear the “clothing” of psychological complexes. Old Testament angels, Medieval fairies, and modern aliens are all the same category of entity; all project onto the physical 3D world and can even appear visually to other nearby people, but they come from the Experiencer. Many Experiencers experience all 3 of the above creatures within a single day! It is because they come from within their own psyche.

    The purposes of NHI / psychological complexes can be quite diverse, and it’s not always positive or beneficial. Generally, the most benevolent purpose of such encounters is to help us with our self-actualization. Suffering also seems to be a key part of our growth here on Earth. That is to say, we come to Earth to reach our full potential. This place is said to be a “school”, but I think a better term would be a “crucible”; our experiences here enable us to engage in alchemy, transforming suffering and darkness into cosmic beauty, wisdom, creation, etc.

    The question is, why would we put in all this Earthly effort, when we can be happy and fulfilled in the afterlife?

    As far as i can tell, no one knows the answer. The dead tell mediums that we come here to grow. But no one seems to be able to communicate why, aside from a few mentionings I’ve read that the long-term goal is a higher apotheosis. Perhaps that’s true.

    I think a more tangible answer is that the afterlife isn’t challenging for a person. He or she is ultimately limited by their omnipotence; they cannot learn who they truly are, cannot become something more. Imagine a baby who stays in the nursery and never leaves, for decades! Or a narcissist who is served by unlimited servants and resources, without any motivation to become brave, kind, or selfless.

    I also think that it’s possible that, after a few thousand years of bliss, we may simply want something different for a change. So we come to Earth for a bit of hell, and limitation, and mortal danger.

    Anyway, I’m not saying I’ve got it exactly correct, but i think I’m getting warm…