• Always insane that It’s always the public service workers that are fired whenever their is a need for austerity.

    No major politician says….”maybe the rich need to contribute more in this dire time of need.”

    No, let’s fire that poor worker who answers calls for the CRA, that old lady that processes Passports, or that Parks Canada worker that keeps people safe…..that’s the winning strategy. /s

    The reason we've all been getting price gouged from every angle since COVID is because rich pieces of shit didn't want to sacrifice anything at all like the rest of us have had to. They couldn't bear to reduce their insanely indulgent lifestyles, so they made millions of people's lives worse just to keep funding it without sacrificing a single thing. Rent seeking productivity leeching pieces of shit that normal everyday people should constantly remind these people what they are every time we see them interface with the public in any way in their lives.

    Let's not forget when the Liberals tried to introduce a tax to make the rich pay a tiny bit of their fair share and the general public lost their shit over it because "you can't tax rich people or they'll get upset."

    “One day I might be rich and also not want to share!!!”

    I think it's more that people are afraid that the wealthy ruling class will leave and take all the jobs with them due to capitalist propaganda.

  • Hayden Christensen is now a farmer in Ontario.

    It's a peaceful life.

    Probably doesn’t have to worry too much about sand* there either!

    Can confirm, lives down the road from me. When I was a young teenager, I worked at the local corner store and he would often come in, dressed like a literal farmer (shit on the boots, flannel, Carhartt, the whole works) and was super down to earth and nice. Would always ask what we were up to and chat for a bit 

    Edit: this would have been 20ish years ago after the release of episode 2, but he's still there

  • May as well find another Luigi Mangione.

    We're upgrading to a Mario this time.

  • The Christensens from my home town (Estevan) are the rude town drunks. Less sophisticated branch?

  • I don't think the system works

  • Welp, when we elect a neo liberal banker I don't know why we'd expect any different. 

    When the opposition still believes in trickle down economics and are in bed with oil and gas and grocery monopolies, it's difficult to also take them seriously.

    The Liberals are in bed with O&G and the grocery oligopolies too. 

    Both the Conservatives and Liberals are ardant capitalists who cater to the wealthy and our gouging corporations. 

    Both Carney and Poilievre are smarmy and condescending in their own way. Carney's an elitist and Poilievre is a weasel. 

    Just because one is more likeable doesn't mean either one is good. 

    Oh for sure, the liberals are at least able to understand they need to throw us peasants some things to make life bearable (dental care, child care, i miss the carbon rebate so much, we walk to do most of our errands and we always came up ahead with it, lol). I'd personally wish people would support "people first" parties, but they get ridiculed by most people because of the way media rhetoric has trained them.

    They shit talk the people running the populist parties, & the news doesn’t cover them, so they can continue to scam us with the 2 party system. NDP exists just to catch the people who are waking up from the system into voting for a party that will do nothing.

    The liberals are the ‘good guys’ who give us all the services (they reward the service contracts to their friends and lobbyists) and the cons are the ‘bad guys’ who have to reign in liberal spending (or at least run their mouth about doing it) while also enriching the upper echelons, while both sides play professional identity politics so we don’t realize we wouldn’t have half our issues if we didn’t allow ourselves to be robbed by the elite like this.

    There’s an illusion that they fight back and forth, but the reality is that they all end up richer while we end up poorer no matter what happens. I’m done playing this game, people need to stop voting for either of these parties and vote in populists.

    The dental and child care was 100% the NDP. The liberals were dragged kicking and screaming into supporting that. They basically had no choice because NDP support was needed by the LPC to hold off an election iirc. So libs begrudgingly supported the NDP measures to keep their support.

    The NDP has also tried putting forward motions regarding price gouging by grocery chains. If any had passed they would have forced the government into acknowledging the criminal activity and finally enforcing the law. The liberals and conservatives voted near unanimously against all of them

    Just curious, when you say "people first" parties, are you referring to the PPC or a party that actually cares about the people?

    Definitely not the PPC, lol

    Ah you're a liberal voter because you like the handouts. Got it. That carbon tax cost people more than the measly $130 you got every 3 or 4 months. Most of us that pay into the taxes that give you all the benefits that you can't live without, (if you received the carbon rebate and free dental, you are low income)comes from those of us that work much harder than you. Oh and oil and gas make this country run, I work in petroleum and you couldn't fathom how much we pump out a day.

    It's a little presumptuous to assume low wage workers don't work hard and deserve to live in poverty while the wealthy continue to do whatever they can to make more and more every year off the backs of those same low wage workers.

    When conservatives were in, rent and groceries were low enough that people, even low income people had more food in the fridge and a roof over their head. Affordable housing and groceries kept most of these homeless off the street and not stealing as much. Before they were stealing to support an addiction but still had an apartment. Which kept them less likely to do violent crimes. Having affordability is better than the scraps they give you. In this country the lowest get tons of benefits and the highest get the most benefits. Those of us in the middle take all the hits. Anyone that wishes for everyone to get taxed more so they can receive a miniscule amount of money a year is not worthy of having an opinion on politics.

    Harper did nothing to help with affordability particularly when it comes to housing. The cost of the average home almost doubled under Harper and then doubled again under Trudeau. Neither one of them helped. 

    People were still struggling under Harper, we still had an opioid crisis under Harper, we still had obscenely expensive cell phone bills and grocery oligopolies under Harper. 

    Mulroney started defunding social housing in the 80s and Chretien cut funding completely. Harper did nothing to restore it and neither did Trudeau. You're still caught up in the binary way of thinking one of those two parties helps people and the other doesn't. Neither one does. 

    In this country the lowest get tons of benefits and the highest get the most benefits. Those of us in the middle take all the hits.

    And this statement here shows just how much of the propaganda you've consumed and internalized. There is no middle class. There is have's and have not's. There is the wealthy and the working class. The middle class is a creation of modern capitalism that is distracting you with creature comforts so you don't rebel against the system that has created the greatest wealthy inequality in modern history. 

    You're so close to getting it though. You're seemingly angry at the rich but still don't want them to pay more taxes. You still support the system you just want more scraps for yourself.

    Our governments do suck. They are working for the wealthy. But you thinking Harper is any different than Carney or Poilievre from Trudeau in terms of who their ideas benefits is laughable. The only different between them is which side of the culture war they stake out. 

    The difference is the people who think this were kids when Harper was PM and had their basic needs taken care of by their parents. So things felt like they were better.

    Those of us who had to work multiple part-time jobs to afford rent know better.

    And, look XLY, low taxes are WHY everything is so hard. Specifically low taxes on corporations and the top 10%. Government services and infrastructure and programs for low income people are what made the life you're nostalgic about possible. Our parents and grandparents got a LOT of hand-ups even if they don't acknowledge them.

    And those systems got built by better people than anyone in power in the past 40 years -- as those systems and social contract break down and aren't rewewed... surprise, things suck worse and worse! Higher earners pulling the ladder up are to blame.

    Those are systems our grandparents all paid their taxes to build for us. And you. Have some respect for what made life in the middle good.

    Yup, I graduated in the middle of the Great Recession. Things weren't great back then. Fortunately Canada wasn't hit as hard as some other countries but it was not a great economy for young people. 

    And to your last point that's just it. The post war era saw the highest corporate and income tax rates on wealthy people. That great era everyone is nostalgic about was when we had socialist-styled policies apid for through higher taxes. 

    We had more unions so people who didn't graduate high school could still get a good job and afford a home and a car and a family. 

    That's been heavily degraded over the decades to the point of it being essentially non existent now and folks wonder why. 

    Can't argue that life was cheaper and we had A LOT less homeless. My argument was over the other person thinking the carbon tax was a good thing ( it's still in effect for the most part). You're wrong about not being middle class and misunderstanding what this country sees as one. Anyone that makes over 40k in the eyes of the government is middle class.If I was a chick that couldn't buy condoms and had 5 baby daddies I would have a 2 story 3 bedroom with a basement and be living it up. Don't support a process that turns us into the movie Idiocracy. There was more affordability back then no matter what you say, the fact that I make double and have less says so. My eyes are not seeing propaganda, they are watching my city be turned to shit and the same all over Canada.

    Can't argue that life was cheaper and we had A LOT less homeless.

    Yes and that's true if you go back 10 year before Harper got in. And 10 years before that. 

    My argument was over the other person thinking the carbon tax was a good thing ( it's still in effect for the most part). 

    Carbon tax was a net benefit for most Canadians but got politicized. 

    You're wrong about not being middle class and misunderstanding what this country sees as one. Anyone that makes over 40k in the eyes of the government is middle class.

    I understand what the modern perception of the middle class is. And it came about during an era of the highest taxes in corporations and individual wealth. But even if was to concede it existed 40 years ago it doesn't now. 

    40k per year after tax is 31-34K depending on which province you live in. If you're taking home 34k a year then you're likely spending over half your income on housing alone. You think that's middle class? To have less than 1400 a month to cover groceries, utilities, cell, internet, and all other expenses?

    If I was a chick that couldn't buy condoms and had 5 baby daddies I would have a 2 story 3 bedroom with a basement and be living it up.

    What in the actual fuck even is this sentence. The only coherence in it some some not so subtle sexism. 

    Don't support a process that turns us into the movie Idiocracy. There was more affordability back then no matter what you say, the fact that I make double and have less says so. My eyes are not seeing propaganda, they are watching my city be turned to shit and the same all over Canada.

    Man. You're still so close to getting it. You recognize there's a problem but ignore or misidentify the causes and the solutions you believe in will only make things worse. 

    The writing was on the wall during the Harper year, lol. It doesn't matter which party was in power, we were going to get to this crisis one way or another because the wealthy only do what they can to increase profits.

    He literally warned us about Trudeau's legacy

    When presented with two bowls of shit, we can't get high and mighty that people chose the one with sprinkles over the one with nails.

    My expectations for Carney were low, but dear lord he's been limboing under that bar like a champ. Fingers crossed the NDP gets their shit together.

    This is a flaw that inherently arises when you mix a democratized governmental system with a privatized economy.

    We need to democratize the economy. It doesn't work if the politicians hold private interests.

    Liberals aren't letting Zionists and IDU run the country.

    Source: IDU.org

    Do you know how many Liberal MPs took fully paid trips to Israel from CIJA? How many members of the Liberal caucus are still die hard supporters of the on going genocide? 

    There's certainly a split in their caucus whereas the Conservatives are fully supportive. But I'm not giving them much credit for half assing it. 

    And Our PM recognises Palestine.

    CPC wants Palestine to be Real Estate for Isreel.

    A part of being an adult is picking the better of two options.

    Do you have any idea who Brookfield are?

    Stop with the whatsboutism. Your (presumably) party won. Stop the constant rent-free-in-your-head comparison, and focus on the governing party and what they’re currently doing to fuck up the life of Canadians.

    You mean, when the Governing party still believes...etc.

    Do you have proof for anything you just said?

    And yet I'll still get in arguments on this fucking sub with libs who refuse to believe carney is an austerity driven corporate shill.

    It's getting better. As more time passes and people realize banker daddy isn't our saviour, he's just here to help the stock market, then his honeymoon will hopefully come crashing down. 

    But, the unfortunate part is the possibility of that leading people to pivot to Poilievre or whoever the next convoy crazy the Conservatives chose is and believing the BS that they care at all about the working class. 

    I don't disagree. Singh really screwed the NDP by not stepping down and letting a new firebrand take a shot last election. I have no faith in the party in its current form to do anything should a short election turnaround happen.

    Honestly I think we're almost worse off if someone like Scheer manages to wrangle the leadership away from PP. The avg Canadian is going to see him as reasonable compared to the alternatives! Only for him to supercharge Carney's corporate giveaways

    Couldn't agree more about Singh. I wish he had stepped down either after the 2021 election or when they ended the supply and confidence agreement. 

    Instead Trudeau stepped down and the Liberals got to absolve themselves of their sins and the NDP largely wore the blame for the Trudeau era. 

    Really hoping Ashton wins the leadership and the party execs get flushed. The report they came out saying nothing was their fault was pretty disappointing to say the least. 

    And to your last point, I don't think we have to worry about Scheer, he had his shit already but I think he's honestly the only person less likable than Poilievre in their caucus. At least to me. 

    Quebec massively backed the NDP that one election a while ago, giving the NDP the chance to be a "real" party. Then they promptly backstabbed Quebec every chances they got. They caused their own fail.

    I'm not sure I agree in all honesty. A strong majority of the people I know who originally supported Pierre have swapped to supporting Carney. Basically all of his economic policies have been conservative as fuck.

    The difference is that they don't come with a side of sending trans women to be assaulted in men's prisons.

    Which is nice.

    I think the issue is that a lot of people are more scared and looking for a rescuer than anything else. The reality is that we looked at Singh and PP and panicked. The NDP is too busy fighting itself in the rockies to be remotely effectual at this time, and we had a guy magically appear who has a track record of navigating complicated financial crises.

    The cost of Carney is that he's a neolib banker. But we didn't get something worse at a critical moment, so it just kind of is what it is.

    Who the fuck was "panicking" at singh?? I agree PP scared people into trying to not vote split, but where on earth does this sentiment come from?

    Singh was a bad choice

    K, but who was panicking over him? 

    Obviously our government ethics and capitalistic principles are the most efficient and effective form of governance; look at how long our Empire has been sovereign, especially living next to a bully.

    Are you being sarcastic? 

    Of course I am, Mr. Moustache

    Thank you for clarifying, Mr Bones. 

    The difference is in education and experience. His track record includes saving the UK from the weight of their own stupidity and his investments are largely in preventing Climate change. In comparison, all PP is famous for, is making RE Corporations richer.

    I don’t think it was a hard decision at all. Progressive Conservative great at financial management vs Idiot politician great at serving corporate interests.

    That's.. a take. 

    His track record includes saving the UK from the weight of their own stupidity 

    No he didn't. He tried but he didn't. Not that I blame him for what they did but he didn't save them from anything. Brexit still happened and their economy is in the shitter. But if you're trying to give him credit for the current British economy I don't think he'd appreciate that. 

    and his investments are largely in preventing Climate change. In comparison, all PP is famous for, is making RE Corporations richer.

    If you don't think Carney made corporations, and himself, richer then I find that fascinating. 

    I don’t think it was a hard decision at all. Progressive Conservative great at financial management vs Idiot politician great at serving corporate interests.

    *A progressive conservative who's financial management serves corporate interests. 

    Again, you're no different than the Poilievre Stan's you're just advocating for the guy with the red tie instead of the blue one. Liberals and Conservatives both serve the wealthy. Neither one helps the working class. 

    And, if you're genuinely concerned about someone like Poilievre winning down the road, then realize that continuing down the path were on is a recipe for that. When people feel like the system isn't working, that everything is unaffordable and that life is only getting harder, they will be more attracted to a populist who says they'll burn it all down. 

    The system is broken and hasn't been benefitting the majority of Canadians for a long time. Another pipeline or "catalyzing investment" isn't going to affect the daily material conditions of most of us. 

    I wanted the NDP at the helm bud, but they had no chance of winning. I chose the lesser of the two evils. One step at a time, that’s how we’ll get past this.

  • The only ones who need to make sacrifices are those literally in the way of our progress and productivity. These people are speculators that have thrust gambling into the balance of supply and demand.

    We can undue this by bringing back the Land Value tax(LVT) it was scrapped and banned to encourage speculation in order to prop up the market.

  • That's who should be sacrificed, yeah

  • This sub finally pulled Mark’s dick out of its mouth long enough to take a shot at him. It’s a Christmas miracle.

    Or maybe the shills just get boxing day off lol.

  • How do you sacrifice a corporation in a way that doesn't fuck over the employees of said corporation

    Reduce their corporate welfare?

    That is a good question.

    EDIT: Oh, make them increase wages instead of bringing in TFWs to suppress them and leave Canadian born citizens unemployed?

    Sure they won't increase shareholder value quite as much each year, but too bad.

    Corporate taxes are taken from their profits rather than their revenues, so reducing payroll will only cause them to pay more taxes.

    It’s as easy as extending corporate taxes and giving rebates for expanding payroll: Corporations can technically pay less tax than now by expanding their workforce/salaries, and government revenues will increase anyway through an increase in income taxes.