Hi all, this will be a little different from most posts perhaps, but I'd like to offer my insight into doomers and how it differs from the typical doomers.
As the title suggests I'm a prepper. A Doomsday prepper. This covers a multitude of events that "could" happen. Nuclear war, meteorite strike and so forth. I don't think they're very likely to happen, I would however like to be prepared to some degree. Adding a bit more on to this, I'm very well travelled. I've witnessed people with nothing that aren't dooming but smiling, they have a strong sense of community and do what they can to live their lives.
Experiencing western dooming it's quite different, I think the dooming comes from a mix of toxic positivity within society, and people's flat out refusal to take care of their own bad behaviours. The political spectrum is very polarised now. I'm not from America, but I remember seeing how bizarre it was in 2016 when I worked there. People announcing their entire political stance on their front lawn, like it's some kind of identity badge where they try to score points for being the most outaged or defending of some just cause.
Which brings me to the start again - I think dooming exists because people are too spoilt within their own country or social groups, when in reality the world is nowhere near that bad. People's and society's obsession with smiling and being positive has laid the groundwork for this ridiculous behaviour.
I know this post didn't really add a huge amount of value to the sub, but as someone who is constantly dooming as a prepper, I thought it was worthy to mention negative dooming is better than positive patties.
these doomers are way better than normal doomers, cus these guys do cool stuff like making bunkers instead of pretending to be oppressed online
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-Sent from my bunker
Hang on. I'm typing it in morse code
I think there's a wide difference between believing the world is ending, and prepping for the possibility.
At least prepping allows ypu to be ready for most other emergencies that may come to pass. Doomers online will instead scream and whine about it while blaming everyone else and still do nothing outside of that except maybe turn a protest into a riot.
Bold of you to assume they even attend the protests they call for
damn can’t wait to snatch all ur loot when it kicks off
Usually we preppers overindex on this exact possibility, so I wouldn't recommend it lol.
Fyi, A prepper created this subreddit.
Not preppers!
Have you tried emergency ration type food and is any of it any good? Im just really lazy and don't want to cook, so adding hot water to a bag sounds appealing to me.
Yeah loads. I actually eat it when camping a lot and enjoy it. Ready wise is a pile of shit apparently.
Would recommend mountain house.
Mountain House is legit, and there's another brand i can't think of that does mostly freeze-dried fruits that's really good as well. Altho my taste may be skewed, i like traditional military MREs lol...
Military MREs are definitely solid, though I'm sure if i had to live on that for weeks my guts would be wrecked. You can buy year old mres like 10 for 50 bucks. Like 1300 calories per MRE plus some little nice to have, like toilet paper. It's solid and you usually don't need a fire to heat the food with the Flameless Ration Heater (basically hot hands on steroids). Still need a fire for the hot drinks though lol.
I lived off of them for several days at a time, but the mess hall was definitely a blessing when back on base. I usually just ate em cold.
Me and my band of post-apocalyptic bandit buddies gonna raid your shelter for sure
Can you leave my canned chicken nuggies though ?
Prepping isn't exactly stupid though is it.. It "scares" me when you look at the majority logistical problems we have when the majority of the population want to have a nice Sunday Roast (Xmas dinner) on the same day. I think in reality society is merely a few days from destruction
I agree and disagree. I think people would fare a lot better then they realise though. Having taught survival for many years, it surprises me how creative and resilient people are.
It sounds like just putting off the inevitable to me.
I have a buddy who is a prepper and he built a panic room/gun room/tornado shelter in his basement......dude forgot about how the one wall of it just has a single pane window
You can prepare for doomsday and not be a doomer.
If anything, it's the most anti-doomer position to take.
"Floods? Wars? Nuclear radiation? Yeah, I can handle that, just need a few more cans of beans."
"Nah, I'm him."
Yeah, I fit the profile of a doomer myself. I freak out about my life a lot and I barely touch grass because I don't mesh well with the culture of where I live, but reading stuff like depression subs still makes me think, ''yeah, I'm nothing like these people.'' The difference being that these people both don't like their lives and project it on everyone else by acting like the world is so screwed that no one could have anything good ever again, whereas even when I'm freaking out, I still know everything will be fine in the end.
That's a fair point. I've had a lot of loss in my life. But I don't feel the need to project my woes on others.
Not a prepper myself, but I always find it ironic when the stereotypical online doomer disparages preppers or people who have taken steps to be prepared for actual catastrophe/threats.
I’ve got some relatives who are prepper-adjacent, and I would take their odds in the apacalypse over any if these people online who are ineffectually pissing and moaning about how the end is nigh and says they would never bring kids into this world.
I sorta view prepping as a hobby. Like all hobbies, not really something I am going to judge, but if I were to judge I could think of a lot worse things to get tied up in.
Yep. I find this a lot too. People often discourage or laugh at preppers but then tend to panic when something happens. I find far too many people on Reddit to be cocky, I'd much rather nothing happens and we can have a laugh. But I'm not gonna claim everything is honky dory if it's not.
That's right, nothing happens
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The thing is you won't be able to hold back a small army from taking your stuff and you make yourself a bigger target. If history shows anything we have nothing to fear since we have never been on the brink of collapse. I think I have a better chance to win the lottery than the world falling apart.
Yeah, but viewed as a hobby, I could 100% see this as just as worthy of a use of time and money as something like collecting cards or going to the casino.
If someone bought 100 acres in a remote area, builds a cabin with solar energy and a well, and practices shooting, at the least they have a cabin in the woods, a secondary hobby (hunting), and a little property if there are no catastrophes. In the event of apocalypse I think it’s bold to assume that a small army would be too interested in a prepper’s squash, potatoes, and venison.
If the world gets as bad as you think it might of course a small army would kill for some potatoes. If people get hungry enough they would do almost anything.
Since it hasn’t happened, we have no idea what it might look like, nor do we know whether any small armies would form or how they would hold up given the lack of things like fuel or an electrical grid.
My guess is they would hit the local Walmart for supplies, or just go house to house looking for dry and canned goods because potatoes sufficient to feed a family located 1 miles from their next neighbor are not going to keep a small army’s morale up.
Either way, it’s entirely speculative, but I like the odds of the small group subsistence living 200 miles from a population center over someone whose chosen hobby for the prior 20 years was gaming.
You, the virgin doomer:"You can't fight a small army, you may as well just give up!"
Me, the chad siege historian with access to a remote trebuchet:"🎵Keep your rifle by your side🎵"
He doesn't have to give up but an individual doesn't stand a chance against an army
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lachhiman_Gurung
And? Just look what happened to the Japanese when they fortified Iwo Jima. If there is a bigger force you will eventually lose no matter how far into the ground you dig.
Okay doomer.
as a fellow prepper who did not have to do anything extra to prepare to be smashed by helene - i think it's anti doomer to be a (mentally healthy) prepper. because you're saying you know this and this could happen, but you got this.
for a lot of us, it's just a fact of life. especially the ones who live far from a city. in order to be a resilient person, you should be prepared to take care of yourself and your family regardless of what life throws at you. i have all my ducks in a row so i don't need to catastrophize online 12 hours per day.
shit happens, life goes on. if you're reading this and new to prepping, i highly recommend a gravity water filter and an augson farms 30 day meal bucket.
i never thought i would be filtering creek water and busting into my freeze dried food until it happened to me.
Misread as gravy filter, but you raise good points. I think people in cities think the world is over the most minor mishap. I grew up in a cold house, where you could see your breath. I put a jumper on. Went to bed. People now have to heat their heating on in summer.
Is it doomsday prepping to prepare for the inevitable Carrington class CME?
We had one that could have set half the planet back by 20 years as recently as 2012. It missed us by 9 days. Utilities keep a handful of replacements for ceitical infrastructure on hand. Transformers and switchgear for construction are on 1-2 year back order. The capability to even produce more will go down and what is in storage is nowhere near enough.
So you've got three melons?
I find this kind of doomerism foolish when Americans are not having kids.
Your likely scenario is invasion from another country and their army.
If any of that crap happens ill skip the bunker and hopefully go quick. I know I'm too soft to live some real shit.
The most prepping I've done is 200 rounds of 5.56 and a box of MREs that are probably way past their date.
your last statement is just wrong, positive pollies will always beat negative nancies
and if we dont your fucking bunker wont save you lol
Why is it wrong? My bunker wouldn't me from what?
Being prepared isn't dooming. It's smart to be ready for weather or economic events. Even the cdc recommends a "bug out bag" of sorts.