To those wondering, "Camp's theropod" is based on a tooth and partial femur. If it is indeed a theropod femur, it is speculated to be a giant relative of Yangchuanosaurus, which was already bigger on average than the later Allosaurus. The giant size basically comes form scaling up Yangchuanosaurus, which would suggest an animal that rivals T. rex in size. However, there's enough room for variation within Metriacanthosauridae that its impossible to say for sure with such fragmentary remains.
okay so they find a femur and a tooth from one species and they can determine from that that the guy looked like he came out of the star destroyer trash compactor xD
I've looked into this and there's not much to go on. Camp's theropod specifically refers to an enormous, fragmentary femur shaft, an ischium and some associated teeth found in 1915 in Sichuan, China from Mid Jurassic deposits and later described by Charles Lewis Camp in 1935. The femur had an impressive diameter of ~20cm, but I don't fully trust the estimated full length of 140cm, given the the lack of valid affinities.
Regardless, the animal must have been very, very large to have such a huge femur.
As far as I can tell there's been no serious effort to classify this specimen, the best I could find was discussion by enthusiasts on blog posts. It's been associated with Szechuanosaurus, itself a dubious genus full of non-diagnostic material, and that's been extrapolated into affinities with metriacanthosauridae, but I wouldn't take any of that as fact.
They're at the University of California Museum of Palaeontology today, and are assigned the specimen number UCMP 32102 if you want to torment yourself and try to find out more. I'm not willing to go and read incredibly dry research from a century ago, either, so I might have missed something about the femur.
For anyone wondering
Camps theropod scales from 5 all the way to 15 tonnes.
I used metriacanthosaurids to scale it as it is most likely a metri rather than a megalosaurid as some torvosaurus fans think.
T-Rex literally has no "ultra speculative fragmentary" remains. Goliath is largely up sized, it is closer to 11,000 kilograms instead. Cope is by far the largest t.rex as of now.
Actually, since it's going by period, it would be Gastornis in the Paleogene, Dromornis for the Neogene, and we're in the Quaternary, so the largest would be Aepyornis, the elephant bird.
okay so they find a femur and a tooth from one species and they can determine from that that the guy looked like he came out of the star destroyer trash compactor xD but of course the rex was all bulky and wide and the other guy looked from the front like me from the side. I call bs on so much archeology and history lol, better to focus on what is important now and in the future. When you look just at egyptology how much was never rewritten but should have, just because some big names and a lot of prestige was attached to it, it might as well just be bollocks 90% of the time. Science is not immune to corruption people.
Edit: True science would be, but that is not being practiced anymore for the most part.
To those wondering, "Camp's theropod" is based on a tooth and partial femur. If it is indeed a theropod femur, it is speculated to be a giant relative of Yangchuanosaurus, which was already bigger on average than the later Allosaurus. The giant size basically comes form scaling up Yangchuanosaurus, which would suggest an animal that rivals T. rex in size. However, there's enough room for variation within Metriacanthosauridae that its impossible to say for sure with such fragmentary remains.
This chart shows T-Rex is way bigger. Look at the weights. I think it's only taller
Yeah but that's the absolute heaviest specimen, using the highest weight estimation. The average would have been similar to the guy in the middle
okay so they find a femur and a tooth from one species and they can determine from that that the guy looked like he came out of the star destroyer trash compactor xD
WHO is camp’s theropod? Did i miss a study
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An unnamed metricanthosaurid from china, apparently
I've looked into this and there's not much to go on. Camp's theropod specifically refers to an enormous, fragmentary femur shaft, an ischium and some associated teeth found in 1915 in Sichuan, China from Mid Jurassic deposits and later described by Charles Lewis Camp in 1935. The femur had an impressive diameter of ~20cm, but I don't fully trust the estimated full length of 140cm, given the the lack of valid affinities. Regardless, the animal must have been very, very large to have such a huge femur.
As far as I can tell there's been no serious effort to classify this specimen, the best I could find was discussion by enthusiasts on blog posts. It's been associated with Szechuanosaurus, itself a dubious genus full of non-diagnostic material, and that's been extrapolated into affinities with metriacanthosauridae, but I wouldn't take any of that as fact.
They're at the University of California Museum of Palaeontology today, and are assigned the specimen number UCMP 32102 if you want to torment yourself and try to find out more. I'm not willing to go and read incredibly dry research from a century ago, either, so I might have missed something about the femur.
I thought the T-Rex was taking a little green poop for a second there
I thought it was something else
Does the middle one not have a name
It looks like a weird mix of rex and carchar
Pretty sure camps therapod is based on Yangchaunosaurus.
It is most likely a metriacanthosaurid from early jurassic
Is it actually that tall or just speculation from a single toe bone
Femur shaft fragment.
Some very fragmentary remains, not a toe bone though.
What is camps theropod
12 ton T. rex? Did i miss something :/
ed cope is an exceptionally big t. rex who might have weighed up to 12 tonnes based on its fragmentary remains
Holy Chicxulub! Looks like I’m not sleeping tonight.
Check out TheVividen on YouTube. He covers it and Goliath.
9m Liliensternus?! That guy is huge!
For anyone wondering Camps theropod scales from 5 all the way to 15 tonnes. I used metriacanthosaurids to scale it as it is most likely a metri rather than a megalosaurid as some torvosaurus fans think.
If we are using highly speculative remains for Camp's Therapod, why not do the same for T-Rex?
T-Rex literally has no "ultra speculative fragmentary" remains. Goliath is largely up sized, it is closer to 11,000 kilograms instead. Cope is by far the largest t.rex as of now.
Teeth, portions of the jaw, etc etc.
Haven't heard any of that about Goliath. Is that personal opinion?
It's not personal opinion, it's fairly common knowledge Goliath is smaller than cope.
List me the specimen names for the teeth and jaw specimens
Is it? I've certainly never heard that, and I'm fairly up-to-date. Where's your proof?
Also why downvote instantly lmao
I still don't buy 12t for T-rex, 9...10 maybe, not 12.
You missed the modern ostrich.
Actually, since it's going by period, it would be Gastornis in the Paleogene, Dromornis for the Neogene, and we're in the Quaternary, so the largest would be Aepyornis, the elephant bird.
okay so they find a femur and a tooth from one species and they can determine from that that the guy looked like he came out of the star destroyer trash compactor xD but of course the rex was all bulky and wide and the other guy looked from the front like me from the side. I call bs on so much archeology and history lol, better to focus on what is important now and in the future. When you look just at egyptology how much was never rewritten but should have, just because some big names and a lot of prestige was attached to it, it might as well just be bollocks 90% of the time. Science is not immune to corruption people.
Edit: True science would be, but that is not being practiced anymore for the most part.