Our former PM says we are being bullied, but that is actually too "soft" a description. We are, in fact, being threatened. Greenland is factually part of the Kingdom of Denmark, no matter what propaganda comes from the white house.
Being one of the key players in the Arctic, Denmark has managed to keep the area calm as a low-conflict area. That doesn't mean that there are no disagreements. Denmark, Canada, Russia, Norway, and China make claims and complete missions in the area. Sometimes one party increase the level of activities for a bit, but this is mostly research and scouting, and rarely as military activities. This has worked because Denmark has been very active using diplomacy to keep everybody from increasing military escalation - we have all had a common understanding: "if you don't move, then we don't have to move either".
Commercial and research is now increasing in activity due to the global warming. But it has still been peaceful in military perspective - until now. Denmark now find itself forced to boost up military presence, with more men, more surveillance, more military power. We do that, because we are under threat of being attacked and robbed.
This threat, however, does not come from Russia. This threat against Denmark comes from our "ally", USA. An ally, that has massively decreased its own presence since the cold war "ended". An ally, who has permission to increase number of bases and military power, should they feel so inclined. An ally, who has permission to engage in deals regarding extraction of rare minerals.
USA accuses Denmark of not doing enough to make Greenland secure. But we have, using a lot of energy and influence to keep the entire area a low-conflict area, so nobody had to feel insecure or threatened. All the while ignoring that USA themselves decreased their activities, and now ignores that they are in their full right to increase them again if they want to.
Greenland is not threatened by China or Russia. Greenland is threatened by USA, and USA is the sole reason, that the heat is now rising, and the Arctic is becoming a high-conflict area. When USA puts more military power in Greenland, there is suddenly a huge increase of western reach, within the vicinity of Russia. Russia needs to respond to this to match, and then the spiral of power buildup is going. Making it more unsafe, more volatile, more expensive, more wasteful.
More stupid.
It is deeply ironic, that we need to increase our military spending in Greenland, because we are threatened by our "ally", and not because of our adversaries. What is even more ironic, is that the general mentality within the Greenlandic population, is actually far more socialistic than the one you would find in Denmark (which the Trump administration hates so much for the socialistic ideas and way of living). And it makes sense; in rough living conditions such as Greenland, you have to trust and rely on help from others. In the Danish mainland, we can get away with being more selfish (read: capitalistic). So when the Trump administration berates Denmark for being too socialist, why would they want to be friends with the Greenlanders? It only shows how fake their smiles and offers of friendship is.
I know there are voices in Greenland, that selfishly allow themselves to be bought by the USA, and thus betray their own country for a personal gain. But I am also convinced, that the general population in Greenland know just how screwed they would be, if USA took control of the management. As such, I still regard the Greenlanders as my national brothers and sisters, and as such, it is still our responsibility to defend them from the abuse, they will come to suffer under an American rule.
And I am also thankful that we also have true friends, who will come to our aid and help us defend our kingdom. (tips whiskey-glass to our adversaries in the whiskey wars)
There is a reason the Danish Defence's intelligence Agency (FE) added the US as a risk
Not just a risk, the main risk, ahead of China and Russia as I recall.
Kim Jong Un is the nice uncle
Thanks! I don't always get much credit in Reddit
Let's call it exactly what it is. Don't sugarcoat it.
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RIP min gamle ven Rune
Greenland is threatened by Russia, in the sense that the president of the United States is a Russian asset. The US is effectively a terrorist organisation under his administration.
The people of Greenland deserve the right to make their own decisions regarding the future of their country, and they have the ability to do so under their current agreement with Denmark. They don't currently have the means to achieve full independence as they rely heavily on Denmark for financial support, but that doesn't mean it can't be achieved in future.
Trying to achieve it through an alliance with a mentally unstable pedophile war criminal who is also a traitor and a coward, however, may not be the best move, strategically speaking.
You only need to look at the US' track record in dealing with native populations to know that it would be a risky move, but of course, the choice is theirs.
Denmark is for sure threatened by USA and it’s high time for the rest of us here in the Nordic countries to acknowledge that threat and stand up together with the Danes and defend Greenland if necessary.
Why would Nordic country’s die for a piece of land that you declared was you own hundreds of years ago? To appease your ego?
What a ridiculous question and this tells me you understand nothing about the importance of close friendships and international cooperation.
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You know it's bad when even China offers support.
Hur mycket vi än mobbar Danmark här i Sverige är Danmarks sak vår. Ingen ger sig på våra bröder! Ni är inte ensamma utan har hela norden och förmodligen största delen av EU och västvärlden med er!
Våran älskade granne, kom hit med Surströmming så fixar vi problemet i gemenskap 👌😍 💪
Så lige at Drumpf igen har udtalt sig, at "Danmark jo kun har været på Grønland i 500 år, vi havde også mange skibe der kom der!".
Manden er jo komplet idiot. Med "vi" må han jo mene USA. USA har kun eksisteret i 250 år.
Maybe rename Greenland into Epstein Island so Trump will actually stop talking about it.
I just saw a news report saying that Greenland now wants to negotiate alone with the US, without Denmark. Apparently, the Americans have managed to outmaneuver Greenland. This is extremely bizarre.
There are some minority party polticians in Greenland who *really* want to flirt with the US right now because their entire personality is "Colonial Overlord Denmark Bad" and they are either too stupid to see how the US will not give a fuck about them if they get a foot in the door or they are completely aware and see this as a way to get rich and fuck off.
And because they are in receipt of funds from US billionaires. Friends of Trump. Apparently it is not beneath Greenland's politicians to accept what basically amounts to bribery. They will sell their land and the people who live on it for personal gain.
Most of Greenlandic politics is bribery/corruption and nepotism, so that's not a big surprise to be honest
But is this the action of minority politicians? Because I heard it seems that Greenland, that is, the country/territory, now wants to talk to the US on its own. This means that the Greenlandic government (and not a minority) wants this, right?
You heard? Their politicians are surprisingly enough not a collective hivemind that all share the same idea and goals. The leader of their 4th largest political party is pushing for the idea to have private talks with USA. You're free to speculate what her motives could be, and weather its a good idea to undermine and potentially leave out Denmark from these talks
Ah yes, I understand. So this isn't a decision made by the Greenlandic government, it's something the leader of the 4th largest party wants. So it's not even one of the 3 largest parties. Interesting. It seems to me there's a massive campaign going on on X by American bots to push this narrative that this is a Greenlandic initiative. Now some people are posting the real news and I could see that this is just the opinion of a party leader from a party called Neraleq or something like that.
Yeah, I see them on every political video on TikTok too. A mix of bots and ignorant radicalized morons who fell into the right wing pipeline. EU needs to continue their work to heavily regulate or outright ban all of these social media apps if their main purpose continues to be pushing propaganda and sowing division
Relevant news I guess
https://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/1q8gz5j/uk_threatened_with_sanctions_if_starmer_blocks/
I think you need to reread what I said.
Correct. I read a few minutes ago that Greenland’s foreign minister Vivian Motzfeldt wants Greenland to have separate meetings with the US. She says however that they share values and political views with Denmark. I think the Greenlanders have a quite tight rope to balance where they want to emphasize their independence without pissing off neither Denmark nor USA and USA is clearly the bigger threat. Remember that it’s their lives and their lands that are at stake here and the actions they take now may have serious consequences down the line if they don’t balance it correctly. I wouldn’t want to be in their position right now. That said though, they don’t stand alone and I’m sure the entire nordics is with them along with most of europe and the rest of the western world.
It’s also a bit absurd that the US tries to make this about “global security”, when in fact it’s almost entirely about US security. And let’s be honest, it wouldn’t matter what kind of forces we deployed, even if we wanted to spend billions to secure territory for no benefit to us or the EU. If Trump doesn’t trust the existing arrangement, why would he trust an increased presence of Danish forces?
And lastly, as you also point out, the only threat to Greenland right now is the US.
The US has closed 30 military bases over the years in Greenland.
They just want access to minerals, rare earth metals and oil deposits under the Greenland Icecaps. This has nothing to do with security because if that was the reason? We already have a treaty with the US that states they can increase or decrease their military presence as they please.
Mango Mussolini just said in an interview that getting Greenland is a psychological need for him.
Trump says anything and everything. But I’ll believe he has no deeper reason to want Greenland than that he decided he wants it, and so he should have it. And of course he heard there are natural resources and he feels somehow he should have a cut of it. (Even though there are reasons, other than environmental concerns, those resources are still in the ground - but that is already more complexity than Trump is capable of dealing with).
the US literally borders Russia through Alaska yet there barely any defence there. They don't seem very keen on stopping Russia in Ukraine so how can they claim Russia is a threat(it is)
the irony is that they thought they were threatened by their neighbour.
You guys cared too much about Russia but somehow ur ally is gonna take it and there's nothing you can do about
Endnu en ting jeg vil nævne: Trump truer ikke (kun) Grønland. Han truer Danmark. Og vi bør omtale det som sådan.
Hvis nogen truede med at angribe Lolland, så ville vi ikke sige at det bare var Lolland der var truet. Nu er Grønland selvfølgelig ikke det samme som Lolland, men når det kommer til sikkerhedspolitik, så er det det samme, da dette ikke er et ansvarsområde for Grønlands selvstyre.