They were always going to lose. Boycotts don't actually work in the medium and long run. Look at Tesla and Musk. When people were trashing their dealerships, people cheered "see? boycott works". And look at them now. They approved a $1T package and the fricking guy is richer than he ever was.
I mean, in a purely theoretical model, boycotts could work. In the real world, not so much. They can ALWAYS wait it out. If they don't, it's because it wasn't that important. But whenever a boycott is existential, they always win.
The only real option would be a revolution. Boycotts serve for people to feel good about themselves, which.. fair game, good for them, but it doesn't move the needle.
Again: just look at Tesla boycotts. People felt like it was end of the line for Musk. He just went his own way. And he's richer than before. And Tesla, instead of gone under, gave him a $1T package.
Sure, but it can work, it's all about the numbers. I mean the consumer boycott of Adidas over Kanye West's anti semitic remarks worked. North Carolina's bathroom bill got repealed after consumer backlash too.
It just has to get to a critical mass of people who agree. I think a lot of the activist class just fails to reach that threshold with their issues.
The general public is actually much better at identifying things worth protesting than they are given credit for, even if that happens organically.
Your examples of what worked are all secondary not fundamental issues. For the real primary systemic issues, it won't work specifically because we must work to survive and sooner or later the critical mass is lost, if it's even achieved in the first place.
Again. Theoretically? Sure. Realistically? Not a chance.
We can't change this system via boycotts. I wish we could to avoid more challenging options. But that's the way it is
What I can say is that brushes help me paint what I see in the room, AI helps me paint what I see in my head. I suppose for a lot of people it's the other way around.
Well yeah, unfortunately for them ai goes beyond art or consumer needs. As soon as china attacked the us with agentntic AI’s, any discussion of ending research died.
Even if they successfully destroyed the west with their suicidal level of Luddism our adversaries would still be using this tech. It’s genuinely over for those brainlets
Man what the hell is reddit putting in my feed now. People are not only identifying in tribes over this, but also trying to make it align with politics? Anyways, one more subreddit to mute.
They were always going to lose. Boycotts don't actually work in the medium and long run. Look at Tesla and Musk. When people were trashing their dealerships, people cheered "see? boycott works". And look at them now. They approved a $1T package and the fricking guy is richer than he ever was.
People don't have the power. We really don't.
People absolutely do have the power. Activists just overestimate how many of the people are actually with them.
I mean, in a purely theoretical model, boycotts could work. In the real world, not so much. They can ALWAYS wait it out. If they don't, it's because it wasn't that important. But whenever a boycott is existential, they always win.
The only real option would be a revolution. Boycotts serve for people to feel good about themselves, which.. fair game, good for them, but it doesn't move the needle.
Again: just look at Tesla boycotts. People felt like it was end of the line for Musk. He just went his own way. And he's richer than before. And Tesla, instead of gone under, gave him a $1T package.
It's objective.
Sure, but it can work, it's all about the numbers. I mean the consumer boycott of Adidas over Kanye West's anti semitic remarks worked. North Carolina's bathroom bill got repealed after consumer backlash too.
It just has to get to a critical mass of people who agree. I think a lot of the activist class just fails to reach that threshold with their issues.
The general public is actually much better at identifying things worth protesting than they are given credit for, even if that happens organically.
Your examples of what worked are all secondary not fundamental issues. For the real primary systemic issues, it won't work specifically because we must work to survive and sooner or later the critical mass is lost, if it's even achieved in the first place.
Again. Theoretically? Sure. Realistically? Not a chance.
We can't change this system via boycotts. I wish we could to avoid more challenging options. But that's the way it is
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Got that right anits need to let it go
Not only are they losing none of their concerns, be it reasonable or not, aren’t even being addressed.
There's arguments for and against AI. They hedged their bets on the wrong one.
"Learn a new talent - pick up a brush."
Seriously? I have lots of talents. Picking up a paintbrush is ALREADY one of them. And now, AI art is ANOTHER.
I want to see your brush art vs the Ai art you do, can you share a link?
My brush art is on canvases in my home. Sorry.
What I can say is that brushes help me paint what I see in the room, AI helps me paint what I see in my head. I suppose for a lot of people it's the other way around.
Well yeah, unfortunately for them ai goes beyond art or consumer needs. As soon as china attacked the us with agentntic AI’s, any discussion of ending research died.
Even if they successfully destroyed the west with their suicidal level of Luddism our adversaries would still be using this tech. It’s genuinely over for those brainlets
They're distracted liberals. It's hardly progressive, but also not surprising.
Man what the hell is reddit putting in my feed now. People are not only identifying in tribes over this, but also trying to make it align with politics? Anyways, one more subreddit to mute.
Yes, Ai is a tool of the right wing
How is most criticism against it reactionary in nature then? Just because a lot of American right-wingers use it isn't really basis for technophobia.
The mass majority of leftists has been successfully subverted by regressive racists and rapist religious zealot ideologies
What do you mean?
Delete this, this is embarassingly childish anti-like behavior, not defending AI art.