I prefer to use a truss screw, like a Camo Truss Screw, or 6" Fastenmaster ThruLOK, as they are less expensive than hurricane ties when you factor in the nails/screws, stronger than most common hurricane ties, and much faster to install.
Simpson now has the SWD double thread, which is rated for exterior use. I bought a box of 500, used hald on the deck and the other half will be used on the covered patio.
Super easy to install, i ended up moving a couple joists while leveling and squaring, it was a joy to just pull and reinstall.
I had not seen the exterior versions of those, those look pretty sweet. I had been ordering the Camo Truss screws online and using those, will probably switch to Simpsons when my current stock runs out. But yes, those beat hurricane ties every time IMO.
I'll second that comment. Asking reddit for that kind of question will give you 20 different replies from 15 different people, and most of them are just copy/pasting from some online codebook or building dept. When they start sounding like a generic answer, that means theyre trying to look like a custom builder. They never have swung a hammer before.
Are you expecting a hurricane?
Honestly, any storm capable of destroying your deck, will be so catastrophic, that your deck will not matter. You won't have a cabin. Or neighbors, or anything.
Hurricane strap is easy to add right now and you have the post mounted well to the footing. Definitely if code required the deck to joists attachment at the house(its like a 8-12" screw)anti-detachment system. Code requires in my area now.
If the end near the house is NOT connected to the house, then yes, you SHOULD add ties between joists and beam. Local code will tell you whether you NEED to. But, toe nailing those joists to the beam isn't really a secure method.
If you're building to last, the ties are inexpensive insurance.
No. Hurricane ties are for uplift. You don't have any uplift there. You should block the joists across the girder and toe nail the joists and blocking to the girder. The girder should be a 4x
Do a quick check on the IRC of your local codes, although it won’t hurt. You could probably get away with the small hurricane clips, with some teco 10d nails and be golden. I think they are the cheapest. Simpson Galvanized aluminum on both for sure though if you do add them.
Question for the pros because I'm getting ready to build a very similar deck (just smaller and freestanding) i was under the impression that the perimeter had to be doubled up, but I haven't seen anyone mention that here.
If those are 2x8x12 you should be okay but a beam 6’ from the house wouldn’t be an terrible idea
Don't forget your blocking to stiffen that up..
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I prefer to use a truss screw, like a Camo Truss Screw, or 6" Fastenmaster ThruLOK, as they are less expensive than hurricane ties when you factor in the nails/screws, stronger than most common hurricane ties, and much faster to install.
Simpson now has the SWD double thread, which is rated for exterior use. I bought a box of 500, used hald on the deck and the other half will be used on the covered patio.
Super easy to install, i ended up moving a couple joists while leveling and squaring, it was a joy to just pull and reinstall.
I had not seen the exterior versions of those, those look pretty sweet. I had been ordering the Camo Truss screws online and using those, will probably switch to Simpsons when my current stock runs out. But yes, those beat hurricane ties every time IMO.
It won’t hurt. You can also use truss screws, though the angle might be hard to get from below.
Some municipalities require them some could care less if it was my house I would put them on for shots and giggles
What kind of shots we talkin here?
I'd like to know more about the giggles
Giggle shots sound I wresting. We need more
Thanks
Never a bad idea.
Pro deck builder here. If the town requires them, put them in. Otherwise toe screwing the joist to the beam on both sides of the joist will suffice.
I'll second that comment. Asking reddit for that kind of question will give you 20 different replies from 15 different people, and most of them are just copy/pasting from some online codebook or building dept. When they start sounding like a generic answer, that means theyre trying to look like a custom builder. They never have swung a hammer before.
Are you expecting a hurricane?
Honestly, any storm capable of destroying your deck, will be so catastrophic, that your deck will not matter. You won't have a cabin. Or neighbors, or anything.
Hurricane strap is easy to add right now and you have the post mounted well to the footing. Definitely if code required the deck to joists attachment at the house(its like a 8-12" screw)anti-detachment system. Code requires in my area now.
If the end near the house is NOT connected to the house, then yes, you SHOULD add ties between joists and beam. Local code will tell you whether you NEED to. But, toe nailing those joists to the beam isn't really a secure method.
If you're building to last, the ties are inexpensive insurance.
No. Hurricane ties are for uplift. You don't have any uplift there. You should block the joists across the girder and toe nail the joists and blocking to the girder. The girder should be a 4x
Thanks
Not necessary. Good solid build as it is. Spend your time putting in a row of blocking.
Thank you very much.
Never heard of a hurricane hitting a cabin
NC says hold my beer
Not for a deck, the hanger has uplift capacity
Do a quick check on the IRC of your local codes, although it won’t hurt. You could probably get away with the small hurricane clips, with some teco 10d nails and be golden. I think they are the cheapest. Simpson Galvanized aluminum on both for sure though if you do add them.
Question for the pros because I'm getting ready to build a very similar deck (just smaller and freestanding) i was under the impression that the perimeter had to be doubled up, but I haven't seen anyone mention that here.
Hangers at ledger. Blocking.