The victim has been identified as 28‑year‑old Erin LaJames Graham. His fiancée told CBS News Texas she was with him, along with his three stepchildren, when the shooting happened as the family was heading home from work.
DART police identified the suspect as 18‑year‑old Demetrius Rogers, who is now in custody. According to Dallas County Jail records, Rogers is being held on a murder charge and no bond had been set as of Friday morning.
According to Rogers' arrest affidavit, he and his brother were walking past Graham when Rogers said, "Excuse me." Investigators say Graham responded, "excuse you," which Rogers told police offended his brother. The affidavit states that Rogers believed the two men were about to fight, which angered him. He admitted to pulling out a gun and shooting Graham in the chest.
And that's a good enough reason to shoot someone?
Throwing someone’s life away and ruining everyone else’s for a perceived slight, it’s so tragic
It's like some people are just walking around with a gun looking for a reason to use it.
Imagine having decent gun laws without tons of loopholes
Realistically, criminals dont give a god damn about laws
So we shouldn't do anything to reduce that.. got it.
I’m not trying to be hostile btw, I’m just saying laws are for LAW ABIDING CITIZENS - not for criminal scum like Graham’s murderer.
Do you think laws with stricter restrictions will prevent criminals from getting guns in hand?
Every gun owner is a law abiding citizen until they aren't. And by the time they aren't, oh well, thoughts and prayers ¯_(ツ)_/¯
There are gun owners. And there are people with guns
LMFAO
File under fantasy.
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Right, like just fucking let it go, man.
Look at the women who got shot after someone didn't say "Thank You" after a door was held open for them. I hope that both of these trials are televised...
Kids got no guidance and adults no emotional intelligence. It’s the blind leading the blind. I see it too often.
It's also the easy access to guns in this country. We need to stop acting like it's not.
No, we need good guys with guns to stop the bad guys with guns. By proliferating guns widely, we up the odds of a good guy having a gun in these situations. Obviously, this didn’t work for this particular situation, so the only take away is to double down and proliferate guns even MORE widely. Duh
Welcome to Texas. Egomaniacs with zero emotional maturity and guns up the ass
Very true.
https://youtu.be/DvEEE2S5D10?si=0azjaVTcMHgkMxk0
My first thought too
aaron mcgruder has already defined what has taken place
And here I thought an armed society is a polite society!
This is what happens when they learn to resolve conflict by flipping the fuck out instead of talking or just moving on with your day…
Typical weak individuals. When he gets to wherever they send him, he won't have that pistol to defend himself. If he's 18, lightweight, and doesn't know a damn thing, they'll break him quick.
Yeah, and he'll just stay broken. At least two lives are lost now.
If he killed someone over something as petty as that, then he was already lost.
Yeah, but only one was a tragedy at this point. The other was probably a tragedy before. May have sent him down this path but I’ll bet he knew right from wrong and he made his choices.
This is a bad thing. The shooter is going to get out of jail eventually, but because our jail system is designed to be cruel and maximize suffering, he won't have any skills, and all his friends are going to be from jail as well. The jail system excels are creating criminals and causing suffering without any positive upsides.
Isn't murder a life sentence or death penalty?
Not usually
No. Especially not for someone so young as in the article. They will probably do 20 years and then be released, with 0 skills or connections beyond those they developed inside jail.
Well the positive upside is it keeps criminals off the streets where they'd be still preying on the rest of us.
Considering how effective the police are solving crimes, its a 50/50 on if they even got the right guy, and training more people to be criminals just means we have more criminals later. Since this prison training facility issue has been a thing for decades, we are already living with the greater number of criminals consequences.
Yes I agree the prisons are poorly setup for rehabilitation.
It really isn't 50-50. Is closer to 5% which is still too high of a number.
Sooo... Pedestrian road rage?
If only more people had guns and a bigger chip on their shoulders.
Man... that's a really sad situation to end a life over. It's so minor yet now someone is dead and another person will (hopefully) be put away for life.
There have been soooo many recent stories in Texas about teenage and young adult males immediately resulting to shooting or stabbing someone and blaming a small provocation they seem diminished by…i don’t know if its lack of direction, discipline, education, or opportunity or from lack of respect and possible humiliation they receive at home…But man, I feel we are in uncharted waters bc this is happening in all SES communities. Like it’s not necessarily poverty-driven but definitely a lack of something :/
Lack of fathers
I got banned in another sub for insinuating that overturning roe v wade was the cannon for a significant degradation of Texas’ future population.
Freakonomics attributes Roe v Wade for the decline in crime in the mid to late 90s in young adults, as that’s the generation that was born in a time when their parents wanted to have them.
Politically incorrect but I agree with this 100%. It would be better if people not motivated or suited to having children didn't, no matter how that's accomplished.
I really think we are cruising for another 1980s/1990s crime wave era in the next 15 years or so.
Restrictions on abortion and sex ed/contraception, decaying systems, the recent inflation and unemployment wave undid a lot of wage growth felt by low income minorities, etc. But we still live in the same culture where people cheat and exploit partners and produce lots of kids outside of stable relationships. Combined with lax gun laws you have the perfect storm.
Yepppppp. Children parented by people who didn't want them often don't have happy lives.
If only they’d never been born!
You understand that people forced to give birth to children they don't want are generally shit parents who turn their kids into ill-equipped adults, right? When your mother doesn't want you, and/or doesn't have any means to care for another living being- how do you think that upbringing looks? This is the part that you're clearly not seeing based on your response here
Which is want to happen when you jail young men by the hundreds of thousands for minor drug offenses.
The history of the world has been built on women raising their children without fathers due to wars and other social conflicts. Try to find a better reason than this. Bad parenting is just as easy to do with two as it is with one.
Statistics 63% of youth suicides are from fatherless homes (US Dept. Of Health/Census) – 5 times the average.
90% of all homeless and runaway children are from fatherless homes – 32 times the average.
85% of all children who show behavior disorders come from fatherless homes – 20 times the average. (Center for Disease Control)
80% of rapists with anger problems come from fatherless homes –14 times the average. (Justice & Behavior, Vol 14, p. 403-26)
71% of all high school dropouts come from fatherless homes – 9 times the average. (National Principals Association Report)
Father Factor in Education – Fatherless children are twice as likely to drop out of school.
Children with Fathers who are involved are 40% less likely to repeat a grade in school.
Children with Fathers who are involved are 70% less likely to drop out of school.
Father Factor in Crime – A study of 109 juvenile offenders indicated that family structure significantly predicts delinquency. Adolescents, particularly boys, in single-parent families were at higher risk of status, property and person delinquencies. Moreover, students attending schools with a high proportion of children of single parents are also at risk. A study of 13,986 women in prison showed that more than half grew up without their father. Forty-two percent grew up in a single-mother household and sixteen percent lived with neither parent
Father Factor in Child Abuse – Compared to living with both parents, living in a single-parent home doubles the risk that a child will suffer physical, emotional, or educational neglect. The overall rate of child abuse and neglect in single-parent households is 27.3 children per 1,000, whereas the rate of overall maltreatment in two-parent households is 15.5 per 1,000.
Daughters of single parents without a Father involved are 53% more likely to marry as teenagers, 711% more likely to have children as teenagers, 164% more likely to have a pre-marital birth and 92% more likely to get divorced themselves.
Adolescent girls raised in a 2 parent home with involved Fathers are significantly less likely to be sexually active than girls raised without involved Fathers.
Bury your head in the sand all you want, but it's a real problem.
Over 70% of young black males grow up in fatherless homes and they commit a disproportionate number of violent crimes. And their fathers are not off in faraway lands fighting wars...
I see it across all age groups and backgrounds. Can also see it constantly on the roads, where so many drivers seem to be in a perpetual state of road rage. Seems like everybody is on edge these days.
If only there were a political system that was based around people’s basic needs being met, and everyone was empathetic enough to agree on it without question….. alas.
It doesn't help that people absolutely do boneheaded things expecting the people to just move over or brake. It's almost if crap drivers ed has something to do with it. From a euro transplant perspective it's absolutely laughable how easy it is to get a license.
It got worse with the advent of phones. I am not saying don't use your phone, but getting behind some person with their head buried in their phone doing 50 on i75, snoozing at the light or drifting into your lane is becoming the rule rather than the outlier. No phones in school zones needs to become no phones period. Stiff fines and enforcement. Car insurance is getting insane due to those distracted drivers.
I might get downvoted for this, but it’s really not happening in “all SES communities” as you say. This extreme lack of impulse control and violence after minor slights and perceived “disrespect” is more prevalent in the black community. I don’t think it’s because of race but rather a decline of the black nuclear family and high rates of single parent homes (ie lack of fathers) in the community. Yes you see this in other groups but you can’t tell people to ignore the obvious patterns.
Frisco is not low SES
What does Frisco have to do with anything I said?
Lack of impulse control.
It’s the machismo culture
It’s the food, housing, and community insecurity. Start there.
“Teenage young adult males” anything else to include?
Why dont you use all your words?
I would say it comes from a strong sense of morality. There is a clear right and wrong and justice must be served. It's also hard to be rational in the heat of the moment.
It's easy to paint people that do this as amoral but it is not very different from honor cultures that had dueling. I've heard people say if we brought back dueling people would be nicer, but this is what that looks like.
The solution I see for this societal probably is that we all do not think so highly of ourselves and learn to be humble.
"heat of the moment"? One guy said "excuse me" and the other said "excuse you". Not exactly life and death struggle here.
I was not speaking about your emotional state right now, I was referring to their emotional state in that moment.
I am also surprised that I am getting down voted for suggesting that we all need to learn humility, but I guess it's easier to say other people are the problem.
I wasn't referring to my state of mind; I was referring to the silliness of suggesting there was a 'heat of the moment' from a single exchange of utterances that were mild.
interesting how all these articles somehow suggest the DART is a factor in crime, but the govt policy of free unregulated availability of g**ns is never mentioned.
They're really acting like DART is just handing out free guns to everybody they see
DART is what you call a funnel. Normally those people would likely never meet, but a train station and a train puts them together. Not DART's fault.
What is DART's fault is the lax enforcement they have shown over the years.
Where are there free guns? I would like to claim a free gun.
Because quite simply simply because you have a gun… Doesn’t mean that you’re a bad person lol
It certainly doesn’t. But surely you and I can agree that there are different calibers of gun owners. I mean Christ, i see some shit at ranges that make me think “I really hope that person doesn’t own a gun” — often more so for that person’s own safety than anyone else’s.
Reminds me of that idiot woman who shot someone for not opening the door for her at target. Bunch of wild animals out there smh. ITS NOT THAT SERIOUS!!
That one is worse cause she followed her to a different location entirely and then killed her target. I thought an armed society was post to be a polite one but all I see are armed crazies.
That's because you don't see the armed not-crazies.
Yep, there’s two kinds of gun owners: the ones who hope they never have to use it against another person, and the ones who would really really like to use it against another person. Or put another way, there are ones for whom a simple disagreement with a stranger is defused with a “you’re right, I’m sorry, carry on” and ones for whom it’s escalated with a “I’m right, you’re wrong, because I can kill you”
100%, I am super pro gun. I don’t want to ever shoot anyone. Not here, not when I was serving. However I will 100% defend myself, others, etc if it comes to it. If I can walk away I 100% will. Plus I don’t think anyone thinks about the legal repercussions that follow with shooting someone plus the mental trauma.
Not so different from the shooter here.
Sure buddy
Anyone leaving their home armed is expecting a confrontation, making it far more likely that they'll find one.
Maybe for some folks. I don’t wear a seatbelt expecting a collision, but because if a collision happens I’d like to be ready for it. I don’t keep a fire extinguisher at home expecting a fire, but if one breaks out I’ll sure be glad I have it on the wall and charged. Doesn’t mean I’m gonna start driving 100 MPH or leaving burners on and overloading electrical circuits.
Biggest difference is that seatbelts and fire extinguishers don't kill people.
they can
Hard to see what doesn't exist.
you repeated exactly what I said in slightly less words.
This is sad. This shit shouldn’t be so unsafe. Last time I tried to take a dart someone took a switchblade out towards me while I was buying a ticket.
This isn’t a DART issue, the DART police apprehended him nearly immediately and up to that point he hadn’t committed a crime.
In my situation, I called 911 and they told me to make contact with the Dart office on site. I tried and the guy who whipped a knife out on me was standing with and laughing with the officer. Obviously I stayed away. Hard for me personally not think it’s a Dart problem.
First of all, the local 911 operator should have transfered you to DART police. Also, the DART police number is posted everywhere.
I’m a buff 6’4 dude and even I get crackheads trying to rob me sometimes lol dart police is pretty Decent at least in my experience
It’s best to avoid the public these days. People can’t even act civilized or respectful anymore
Everyone is blaming DART and nobody is pointing out that this happened at 8th and Corinth station which is in a ghetto part of south Dallas.
It's like that lady who got shot at Petsmart in Oak Cliff.
Are suburban city councils going to vote to hold elections banning Petsmart due to all the shootings next?
Hey now, that’s my petsmart, maybe I’m used to things but that area ain’t exactly like 8th and Corinth lol
Is Akard station downtown considered the ghetto too? How about the Pearl/Arts District station? I guess that's too close to Deep Ellum...
It's a DART wide problem.
It's not a DART problem, it's a Dallas crime problem. If DART didn't exist these same crimes would occur. Also, suppose DART had been built as a fully enclosed subway system and every station had full-height fare gates and a permanent station guard and cameras- the crimes would still happen because in each case the perpetrator did not violate any law until the moment at which they did. As it turns out, there are federal laws against barring people from public places based on how they look, so I'm not sure what your genius plan is.
I've seen your posts around and it's transparent what your views are. The DART rail system is a place where poor people and certain demographics can be and also can transport them around the metroplex. You don't want those people around, so you want to collectively punish a huge number of other people and destroy a civic project that took 30 years to build. You want this out of spite because you are far-right and have no coherent viewpoints otherwise. You know that if DART was defunded by Plano and Irving it wouldn't have any influence whatsoever on crime, it would just make it harder for some people to get around and to shit up decades and billions of real estate development, but you enjoy breaking things because you are a bad-faith chaos agent like the rest of them.
We're talking about DART specifically. Do you want to just generalize everything? Whataboutism does not work in an argument focusing on the increasing safety issues riding DART.
Facts were provided, you don't like them and are spinning a story accusing someone of something you yourself are. The fact you bring up bad faith is comical. I blocked the last guy throwing out baseless accusations and I am doing to same to you. Merry Christmas, I hope you get a mirror.
You can pry Petsmart from my cold, fur-covered hands.
18 years old what a menace
There has been a lot of violence around DART in the past year. Is there some kind of crazy conspiracy to kill it?
DART is only as safe as the streets of the city. There have been 13 homicides in Dallas this month, and there were 10 last month.
The media (and particularly this cbs reporter) has decided they want to make DART safety an issue and are reporting on every incident they can remotely tie to DART.
DART certainly has safety issues they need to address, but the system is pretty safe and they're making multi-million dollar investments to make it even safer. But if there's 10 murders every month, statistically some of those are probably going to happen near a DART station.
Meanwhile... https://www.dallasnews.com/topic/traffic-accidents/
Whataboutism is not an argument.
Saying "Whataboutism is not an argument." is not an argument.
Wrong. But you knew that already. Stay on topic.
Just telling someone "wrong" isn't an argument.
Edit: just saying "bye bye" and blocking someone is not an argument. It is taking this entire thing waaaay too seriously.
Bye bye!
Edit: Nah, just cutting people out of my feed that have no proper reasoning skills. Cope and seethe buddy!
It just gets over-reported and shared.
Over reporting and sharing shooting deaths... Right.
DART is still far safer than traveling by car, but we don't get front page stories every time somebody dies on the roadways.
No, it’s just what it’s like.
When I read articles like this, my default thought is that the assailant or victims were either drunk, high, or mentally incapacitated, because it's just hard to believe that people in their right state of mind handle such meaningless conflict in this manner.
Low IQ indivuals have low impulse control
I'd echo your sentiments if IQ tests measured emotional intelligence and practical problem solving, but they don't.
These issues are a microcosm of larger issues. Conflict resolutions are critical skills that aren't prioritized by some.
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Or Texan. Texans in general are low IQ
False. Average IQ in Texas is exactly average. 100.
5 points higher than California, and still higher than Hawaii, New Mexico, Arizona, and Illinois.
Where do you get a stat like this considering we aren't all taking IQ tests as adults? I feel like insecure people are just grasping at anything to make themselves feel superior nowadays.
World population review. Its based on international standard tests PIAAC...and a test of academic progress of 5th and 8th graders ...either way its more accurate than the comment I was responding to, based on ignorance pulled out of their ass based on stereotypes and reddit comments.
Bring back mental institutions
In Texas, it's called the jail system.
No, that’s something different
Someone needs to tell the jail system that. Lew Sterrett is 70/30 mental institution/corrections. Parkland is basically running that show with on hand Parkland personnel seeing their patients daily. One guess as to who's really running the show up there, and one guess why ⚕️💰
They need more of those
No photo of shooter. Odd
Pussy pulling a gun for that. Low IQ individual. Hope dude rots in prison.
https://youtu.be/D3U55usfJK8?si=JZ542p7rBz2m-83g
No father.
Tragic situation. Especially horrific as it happened with his family present.
Were all three shootings at night? I don’t ride at night when I can avoid it.
His other ride is a Nissan Altima.
All about that nonexistent "respect".
Shithole country activities.
When keeping it real goes wrong
"Why doesn't the US have public transportation like Europe?"
You just get your ass beat in the Netherlands most of the time. Although fatalities on and around public transit do happen over there, they just use knives instead of guns most of the time.
The problem with the US is that you can't get to a station in a timely fashion and if you are unlucky you have a trek to your end destination. Even in the Netherlands door to door time exceeds that of personal transportation. This is especially true in DFW. Nothing is walk or bikeable nor would you want to in certain situations (like 100+F temperatures or other adverse weather events).
To get to one of my previous jobs would take over 2 hours on public transit whereas I would make it to work in less than an hour by car. I bet I could have made it faster on a bicycle! It was 20 miles so even if by some miracle the public transit was on time that's less than 10mph... Atrocious...
Bingo
Those white, MAGA bastards pull this shit all the time. s/
Grew up riding the rail, and it’s always been messy if you’re on it outside of commuter hours. Now that I have a family, I’d rather overpay for Uber if I’m not going to just drive myself. Won’t catch me or mine on DART.
Does anyone value another person life these days? This was a friend of mine nephew who was killed! Make no sense! Just tragic.
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It’s not Dallas lol it’s an American problem
The New York subway has around 60 times the daily ridership of DART. When was the last time someone was shot at a NYC subway station?
If you don’t think America in general has a gun problem then idk what to tell you
America in general definitely has a problem, but it's significantly more serious in places like Texas. Let's not pretend it's just as bad in New York just to make ourselves feel better.
"American" yeah, sure.
Yeah it’s an American problem buddy idk what your trying to imply with your comment
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To have this happen is terrible. To have it happen so close to Christmas is even worse.
What a waste
Proposition U passed in November 2024 requiring the city to have at least 4,000 officers, but the DPD still has around 3,100 officers, far short of the 4,000 required by the charter amendment. There's a lot of fancy new construction on 35 near to the Dallas Zoo but, yeah, I think I'll stick to Ft. Worth Zoo.
So more unprovoked black on white crime
The victim was black.
I hope you and people like you learn to read one day. Could you imagine if just a few ignorant people actually learned things outside of what their hillbilly klan families teach them? You know, all that lib'ril learning that happens outside of hollers. Where people actually leave the towns they growed up in n stuff. Instead of living holed up with guns in a constant state of fear and anger at people that don't look just like their kin!
Yeee Ha!!!!
“Keeping it real”
What happened to good decent fist fights? Like we go in a park and fight like actual men??? This is tragic for the family, and shameful for the state of actual manhood. Everybody just be reaching for their guns soon as someone bump into them. Really??
311
https://youtu.be/giwkngfQ0W4?si=L6D0Ap7p0encSgc0
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The only way for an 18 year old to legally own a pistol is for the 18 year old to buy it from another person in a private purchase.
So who sold this 18 year old a pistol?
Is this why Plano doesn’t want dart
It is the reason why Frisco and McKinney never joined. Both cities are infinitely cleaner than Plano. The transient population around the Plano Dart station is pretty significant. And they all use it to move down to the suburbs, beg and then move back to Dallas where their tent cities are.
Gotta mind your business 💔😮💨
lol nogs.
Im just going to say a guy in a chair of power wanted everyone to carry guns freely. Root cause analysis. Blessings to the victims
The accused isn't even 21 years old - which is required to be able to carry a handgun in TX. Even if the Permitless Law didn't exist, I don't think this individual would've stopped carrying a handgun to follow the law.
Access to guns becomes a lot easier when everybody is walking around with them.
So you believe restricting guns to law abiding cities would have been what stopped this?
I don't care how law-abiding someone is w/r/t access to firearms.
It does in most countries.
https://texascriminaldefensegroup.com/texas-gun-laws-carry-of-firearms/#:~:text=Legal%20Age,License%20to%20Carry%20(LTC)
Minimum age is 18. Not 21.
https://statutes.capitol.texas.gov/?tab=1&code=PE&chapter=PE.46&artSec=46.02
Its 21 for handguns, 18 for rifles.
It's 18 for handguns and concealed carry.
From my link:
According to Texas Laws, the legal age for carrying a firearm is 18 years old. Adults who meet the age requirement can carry concealed handguns
Your link is for unlicensed carry, which is 21 and above only.
https://statutes.capitol.texas.gov/?tab=1&code=GV&chapter=GV.411&artSec=411.172
Im reading the statues directly. Im telling you. It's 21 for handguns. To get an LTC, you must be 21.
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When was this? And where?
DART is a dumpster fire I would rather take my chances hitchhiking.
Ok, so in real life, there's choices, and then consequences. It's true, he may be broken, and it may be a waste, but once he begins his penance then he can decide whether he lives within that realm or do right. Spending a large amount of time isn't a loss, and doesn't mean that he cant acquire skills, but I honestly and strongly believe that if one is truly sincere about doing what's right in order to overcome their wrongs in life, then the man upstairs will lead the way back. I know this, it can be done, and it is absolutely possible. After 32 years I came home to take care of my parents, but before I was given the opportunity I had to overcome my faults, weaknesses, and ignorance. I had 65 dollars to my name, but I persevered. I walked everywhere to accomplish what needed to be done in order to succeed in a normal life. Yes, I have seen the worst inside, but out here I cherished every second, smelled the freshly mowed grass, looked at the beautiful trees, and I loved taking care of my parents. That was eleven years ago. Now I own my own home, my own vehicles, married a great woman, im retired and every day I am grateful for being able to do what is right. True it's a waste to see someone commit a heinous crime, and to see them endure an environment that is harsh, unforgiving, and cruel, but that's part of the program. It works if you apply yourself, and there's programs as well as education opportunities to acquire in order to achieve what society deems success, but yes, there's also the waste that is there, more than the success. Most individuals choose the negative because it's easier, and actually some cant be corrected they choose to live in the fifth of that environment. This young man has a choice, but whether he ever returns to society is completely up to him, and once he realizes that he actually has worth in this world then and only then he will succeed. Not for himself, but for others. It's called empathy. That's what matters. I still care for my Mother, my Father passed, but life is good. No drugs, no alcohol, no smoking, and I can actually feel the joys in life than to mask them with those vices. Im not perfect, but I can reason before I react, and I am able to understand the circumstances from my actions.
“But the DART is really safe!” As I read like the 10th headline of violence in the past few months.
Biased media feeding you a certain narrative
I ride dart every single day and I actually have yet to have an encounter with anybody.
Riding during peak commute times? No problem. Ride any other time, it’s a completely different world
First of there were nowhere near 10 incidents in the past few months concerning dart. Second if youre drawing conclusions from headlines instead of actual publicly available data on crime in dallas, you need to dust off that thinking cap and put it on
3 shootings since September, and who knows how many other incidents that aren’t grabbing headlines? I’ve rode the DART many times over the years, used to commute in on it. During peak commute times, no issue, but many times where I left work late around 6:30-7 it definitely gets very sketchy around the station.
3 shootings is much less than 10, and is a small percentage of shootings in dallas in that same period. Dart shootings grab headlinea because they dont happen all that often, if theres some unreported dart shooting, well I am all ears. Also dart stations are really only sketchy in areas that are also sketchy at night. Dart doesnt make the area sketchy. All these shootings happened in downtown or south dallas
Same folks who are terrified of major cities and everywhere else Fox tells them is scary. All the things they've never done and places they have never gone, but they KNOW it's like Mad Max out there. Can't imagine why your leaders and "news" would want to keep y'all constantly scared into never leaving the house. It would never be so that you just believe the reality they create for you. Because you're too smart to not see that, right? I mean if they told you something was fake news, and you saw it with your own eyes, could you imagine the confusion??