• This happened with my kiddo and her dad. Driver didn't see them. Lucky dad's got insane reflexes. Pulled kiddo up on the hood and took the force of the car. Everyone was okay. Driver was scared to death (teenager late for school) hopefully they'll slow the f down and pay more attention!

    The US letting 16 year olds drive cars is always going to be fucking insane to me. They're still developing their frontal lobe to actually not make stupid rash decisions as often, but fuck it let them drive a car. Your story is an example of that.

    There's plenty of adults that can't drive either lmao we should make the test harder

    Yup but also the US really needs to make it's infrastructure less car-centric

    Yeah, I don't see that happening any time soon given the sheer volume of area necessary to do that. High speed rail would be lovely to major cities and jump points. Maybe one day we'll decide to stop being the world police and send some of those bomb monies to infrastructure.

    The problem isn't logistical or practical. Greater feats have been accomplished by other societies in the past. The problem is purely political in the sense that there is no political will to do so.

    Not on a federal level, not on a state level either. If there was political will to do so, you'd see mountains get moved in an almost literal sense.

    Sadly, current federal elected officials are more preoccupied with infringing on human rights and political posturing (as per usual tbf) than actually getting shit done

    Ehh, that's likely because of the whole 100+ years of pushing buying a car as the vehicle for freedom. I figure that if the costs of vehicles continue to expand to the levels they are, that that will become a political necessity.

    You optimistically assume, I think, that politics right now is motivated by serving the public rather than corporate interests. The way I see it, Trump is dismantling the US federal government to provide power and profit to his donors / shareholders and selling privileges to the highest bidder (see: golden visa, Musks influence through having bankrolled Trump's campaign, etc...)

    As long as people keep voting for politicians, they'll just do whatever suits their own interests, and it's been real easy to get their votes by pandering to their ideology. How many poor Americans would vote over Sanders for Trump while the latter's policies affect them negatively, just because of ideological identification?

    Yea uh no! He's dismantling it to return it to people because it's a corrupt self serving leviathan with an insatiable appetite for money and power! People have become so used to getting screwed by them they think he's the devil! SAD!

    How?

    Many midwest states take between 4- 15 hours to drive from one end to the other.
    Many small towns have nothing in it and takes 1-2 hours to get to any real city.

    Have you ever traveled outside of the US? Trains are much more common everywhere else and are much more efficient and fast than cars.

    I agree- works great in Europe and other countries that are small- not so much in bigger countries with vast amounts of open land.

    I have lived in 5 different countries on 3 continents - Germany, Switzerland, UK, South Korea and US.

    South Korea’s transportations makes others look shameful but like most of Europe- the countries are small in comparison and have very dense populations. So it makes sense.

    The major US cities on the coasts have subways and trains plus Chicago and other big cities like New York to Boston and DC have great systems.

    The rest - never going to happen- too wide and vast of open farms lands and/or nothingness between.

    Cars are way more practical in every way. Trains would be way more costly and never be practical. Just look at Amtrak.

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    Oh shit, I hadn't heard of that sub, good recommendation!

    Been to 71 countries.

    Theres a lot more in Europe in a lot less space.

    If we look at purely drivability distance, there’s about 2000 miles in Europe and about 3300 in the US.

    Then you include the vast nothingness of the mid west and it makes even more sense.

    Why would you build 700 miles of trains and not even hit a 2nd tier city?

    China is just as massive, if not larger than the USA in terms of size, and they do it just fine.

    Americans are just a nation with a lot of stubborn idiots stopping their own progress. Sorry to put it bluntly, but the results from PISA and your politics, and interactions like this, reflect upon that.

    Fantastic, you found one example of an authoritarian government doing it better!

    Congratulations, you truly are very intelligent.

    Imagine learning that when a singular person can make all the decisions and if you deceive them you get disappeared, decisions get made very quickly.

    Who would’ve thought??

    Americans yapping about authoritarian governments as if your president isn't a fascist piece of shit who wants to install an autocracy, oh my fucking god hahahahah you guys really are brainwashed to the gills.

    And yeah, China is authoritarian. So is the US, and in China they have a better quality of life than you do.

    But keep believing in American exceptionalism. Exceptionally stupid is the only thing Americans are

    That's the same argument smokers give me when told, smoking causes cancer. "But non-smokers get cancer too" yeah, but do you need to raise your chances by that shit? Sure there are plenty adults who can't drive worth shite, but that does not mean, we need a bunch of teenagers wielding cars...

    I’m honestly not opposed to mandating a re-take of the drivers test every five or six years.

    Yet we aren't mature enough to drink until we're 21. Now sitting on top of a tank and killing people... that's totally cool before then, but heavens forbid you touch the evil juice (alcohol)

    I’m curious, where are you from? Several countries I’ve been to outside the US it is an even easier process to begin driving at such a young age.

    Belgium. Legally only allowed to take lessons to learn how to drive the year you turn 18. It's also pretty hard to get a driver's license here since very few people pass the practical exam the first (few) time(s).

    Okay, I had a thought it was likely somewhere in Europe. I have far less experience there in general, but it did make sense in my head. From what I have had more experience. I suppose it’s not by law, but in many central and Latin American countries, the age by which people do begin driving is around 16.

    I’m not 100% on the minimum age going up in the US, but I am totally for much higher standards of driving for anyone.

    I get that the US is a complex situation since being able to drive a car is an absolute necessity there for people considering how car-centric your infrastructure is and as a result how lacking your public transport is and how hard it is to only walk/cycle to places you need to go.

    Very different from where I live. I take the bus and train very often and it's not expensive.

    About Latin/South-America, yeah. I spent 2 months in the Carribean and regulations are much more lax there.

    We actually have some of the better drivers in the world because we have more experience because of this. Traveling abroad we usually get much lower rates on rentals and things.

    Seems true on the surface, but it’s also true that more time behind the wheel gives you more experience. A new driver at 16 vs a new driver at 18? Not sure the difference when they first start out, but the one who started at 16 will always have 2 years more experience. Would require a decent data study.

    The two years may seem like a lot but this is fully dependent on the type of driver, where they drive and how often they drive. It’s absolutely meaningless if they drive maybe once a month compared to people who commute to work every day. It’s also meaningless if their driving skills aren’t challenged and it’s a ridiculously easy road to travel. So there are nuances that matter in my opinion.

    People who learn to drive in busy cities might also be far ahead of people who only ride country roads.

    On top of it a few decades ago teens got beat up cars where their victims could roll over the hood and “only” break their legs if they’re lucky. Now they drive threefold heavier SUV’s and trucks that is basically deadly on impact. This worries me, both for those they could hit but also themselves and their future.

    16 year olds? You can get your learner's permit at 14 in many states.

    Why can't they drive? They can already buy guns at that age! /Sarcastic

    I was driving when I was 14 and in my home state - kids can drive at the age of ten- if they live on a farm and drive only from the farm to school and back. Most of these kids have been driving tractors since they were 5 years old.

    They need to get off the damn phones

  • Yeah that guy’s getting a pulled through the window or at least losing his wing mirrors

    Oh I’d be climbing onto the hood going apeshit

    I shouldn't be surprised this went national but really surreal seeing something from so close to home on here lol.

    What the ACTUAL fuck, that’s insane behaviour. Also, how does she think that was a clean shit? It looks like god awful dishwater consistency

    “Clean-poop-didnt-wipe” got me

    This made me laugh

    Took all I had to not kick in the car door of a neighbor that apparently did not check before reversing down his driveway. We slowed. We stopped. We waited off his driveway. He didn’t shift into reverse and move until we were nearly behind his vehicle.

    I still remember the idiotic look on his face when he realized what he did.

    Nope...pulled through the window (flat packing sounds of flesh as it hits flesh repeatedly)

    I felt enraged just watching this video!

  • I'm only an uncle but I wouldn't cross a street without holding my nephew's hands ever in my entire life, hell not even walk in the sidewalk with out holding them

    Dude looks distracted at the start. I will give him the benefit of the doubt that he may have had a lot on his mind for this instance. I doubt he will ever cross the street without holding the kids hand from now on.

    A child that age... Dude could be running on two hours sleep for all we know

    Or stop, then remember the kid

    fr tho cant trust anyone crossing a street.

    Exactly this is more of a r/StepdadReflexes post. Not holding the child's hand and taking way too long to grab the child when he noticed the car wasn't going to stop.

    Edit: and raging at the driver before checking to see if the child is ok.

    Exactly I always hold my kids hand crossing the street. This guy got lucky - when he reached out he was able to grab his kid cleanly. A little miss and that corner of the car is throwing that kid 15ft

  • Hard to read these comments. Looking both ways, holding kid’s hand—those are great. But a kid and an adult could have died here. It feels like the person driving the murder object irresponsibly ought to be the focus of our disappointment.

    Bottom line is both adults in this situation failed. The driver is 100% the one causing the problem, but the parent also has a responsibility to do everything in his power to protect the child. Looking both ways and holding your child’s hand is a small “sacrifice” to make, because at the end of the day hurting the driver isn’t going to bring your dead child back to life.

  • It’s 100% on the car, but some situational awareness doesn’t hurt. A lot of people who ‘had the right of way’ get hurt or killed. Don’t trust other people with your life.

    Graveyards are filled with people who had the right of way

    "Dead right of way" as my dad says.

    Username doesn't check out.

    seriously.. everyone knows the NSA is all robots and they don’t have parents.

    My mom always said when I was learning to drive, “the road to heaven is paved with squirrels that couldn’t decide whether to stay or go”

    That's a terrifying road to imagine tbh. Sounds nuts.

    I work downtown in my city and it's filled with one way streets. I still look both ways at each intersection. I've been made fun of for it by coworkers more than once because "you only need to look one direction", but I've also been nearly hit by a car going the wrong way and one time is all it takes. Even coming home from work just yesterday a semi without a trailer was driving the wrong way down a one way street coming off of a highway. You should always be prepared for weaponized stupidity.

    I point it out to my son (5) every time we’re out walking - every time someone pulls partway through an intersection, makes a rolling right hand turn through a red, ignores a crosswalk etc

    “Whose job is it to make sure we don’t get run over and die?”

    “My job”

    “Can we count on people to follow the rules?”

    “No”

    This guy isn’t just a danger to pedestrians he’s a danger to other drivers as well.

    Yup and your kids lives for that matter.

    As my father always said, “ it’s not about who’s right but, who’s left”

    My bf drives with this frame of mind. I constantly am telling him, drive according to how the others car are driving, not how they SHOULD be driving. Like someone will slow down and hell stay the same speed until its almost collision time and THEN brake. His excuse is that they shouldnt have been doing that. WELL THEY WERE DOING IT SO IT DOENST MATTER IF THEY SHOULD OR SHOULDNT BE!!!! He also pulls like 3 inches from peoples bumpers at any light. Im like god forbid they get in an accident and then we do too cuz theres no room for us to get out of the way, were already right there. I hate him driving but i love being a passenger princess 😭

    He's putting your life at risk by driving like that.

    If he respected you, he'd listen to you.

    If he respected you, he'd listen to you.

    No. Respect doesn't mean doing whatever the person you respect wants. Maybe he disagrees on the principle involved or maybe he disagrees on the likely practical outcome. He sounds like a bit of a dim bulb, insofar as he's clearly wrong and doesn't realize it, but that doesn't mean he's showing a lack of respect.

    I did say 'listen', not obey.

    Putting their life in danger is definitely a lack of respect.

    I could never. That shit is insufferable. The true path is to compensate for others' bullshit while bitching about how they should be doing otherwise.

    I sometimes feel awkward about it, but every time I'm at a crosswalk and clearly have the right of way, I make eye contact with the driver to make sure they aren't looking at their phone.

    I do the same when in my car. It’s not weird or awkward at all.

    Lot of the time driver looks back and you can see "just go" in their eyes so it's pretty reassuring in my opinion too.

    My job is 90% traipsing around the parking and I find it best to approach things like every car is actively trying to hit me

    100% on the car means 0% on the person.

    0%.

    You want to be right, not dead right.

    Just to add some nuance (I still think it's the driver's fault) in some countries, despite what the law says, cars will not stop for pedestrians. Pedestrians will have to wait for the cars to pass. So it's more of a cultural thing.

    This looks to be China or Taiwan, but for example, in Vietnam, when crossing a pedestrian crossing, the cars will not stop for you.

    I live in Vietnam, and one time, a friend of mine who visited me didn't understand the culture and got upset when he tried to cross the pedestrian crossing by foot and no cars stopped for him, so instead he tried his luck. Luckily, he was not hit, and the cars stopped, although abruptly.

    they’re on a crossroad, it’s not their job to expect cars to ignore road signs. it’s common practice to slow or stop at crossroads even if no people are on it. as pedestrians they shouldn’t have to fear that cars can’t spare 5 seconds to follow the law. this is the logic of blaming women for not running whenever they see someone outside like at all. it’s not the victim’s job to be aware that people could break the law and make them a victim

    Well, then what happens is in this video. It takes zero effort to look and be mindful of potential risks when crossing the road. People make mistakes and expecting none is asking too much, when your life is in the line.

    it’s not the victim’s job to be aware that people could break the law and make them a victim

    It is always your job to watch out for your own health and safety. This is true on a level that transcends any moral law, any question of what "should" be required. Those who want to live and prosper should take actions to maintain their life and prosperity. If you can't be bothered to do that, don't be surprised when you're the victim of someone else's malice or carelessness.

    this is the logic of blaming women for not running whenever they see someone outside like at all.

    Everyone should remain alert to their surroundings. In some cases, like when a malicious predator has targeted you, that awareness may not be enough. Usually, in the case of careless drivers, it is.

    Looked like a clear street, Driver mustve been impaired somehow

  • "Blessed are those who believe in crosswalks, for they will soon meet with God."

    My mother always said that.

  • I've never beat someone until I saw blood, but you can guarantee this would cause me to.

  • He was right to be mad, but he was wrong to trust that the crosswalk is a substitute for looking both ways and having awareness when you're crossing a road.

  • Hold your children’s hand while crossing the street

  • /r/fuckcars

    Nothing radicalized me against car dependency as much as having kids and seeing how dangerous cars make the built environment for them almost everywhere we go

    I was watching parking wars with my wife one night and they gave someone a ticket for double parking. The guys confronted the parking enforcement officer and asked why it was bad. The officer crouched down to kid height and told them to tell him when he was able to see him coming and once he was able to see him he was basically in traffic

    Absolutely! Having kids in a city I've become hyper aware and my kids have been taught to be street smart when it comes to safety. We were babysitting a friend's kid who lives in the county and but used to sidewalks. It was great to see my kids being super strict with them following the safety rules when walking to the library/park.

    Another thing that has made me even more scared/aware of cars is riding my bike more. Let alone riding my cargo bike with kids on the back. I have a bright, ridiculous, and loud bike now

    This! It is SO true!

    It's an insanely dangerous and inefficient system

    We should all go back to horse and carriage, no one ever died to one of those.

    Typical reddit comment lmao

    Typical American comment

  • Glad the kid was okay, but damn it - looking both ways is actually pretty important. And hold that kid’s hand!

  • Car is 100% at fault, but hold your kid’s hand when crossing Jesus. My youngest is on the spectrum and hated it but I refused to allow him to cross unless he held my hand. No hand? Then we go home and don’t go to the park. Now he and his brothers are teens who are bigger than me, and while I no longer hold their hands I STILL put my body between them and oncoming traffic and keep my head on a swivel. People are inattentive and nuts.

  • As much as I blame the driver, I still find the dad could’ve done 1% more

    Even now that my youngest is 12, I still leave a buffer between the car, me and them when crossing the street. Just can’t chance it, especially after seeing a coworker get hit by a car after work in a crosswalk.

  • The driver deserves to have the brakes beaten off them

  • I would have smashed that window or broken off the side mirror.

  • Never cross the street with small children without your head up and on a swivel. Situational awareness is absolutely key going anywhere with small children because they are stupid and other people are assholes and that's a deadly combo.

  • I don't know what it is, I've surprised myself catching my 1 year old daughter as she suddenly slipped while getting out of the car. I've never had such quick reflexes or moved so fast or perfectly before.

    Weird how that works!!

  • What a nice guy to not pull them out of that car

  • I would have thrown my knee into that passenger door so fast

  • TBH, that dad was WAAAAAY more calm than I would have been.

  • I wish public transportation is better so not everyone is forced to drive a metal death box

  • This father is stupid because he crosses the road without holding his son's hand.

  • Just an fyi, in china the traffic is always moving so you have be 100% aware.

  • This driver needs to have their license suspended for at least 6 months.

  • Never assume drivers will stop. Never.

  • Wdym? The kid was hit

  • real dad reflex wouldve been punching THROUGH the fucking door

  • Yeah, that was bad and could've been infinitely worse, but you should train your kid to always hold an adult's hand when crossing the street or walking through a parking lot. That's what my mom did and we never had problems like that because when I wasn't paying attention, she was, and I couldn't move without her

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  • Who doesn't hold their kids hand when crossing the road?? I feel like that's 101 stuff.

    I understand but 101 stuff may have exceptions. I guess the car didn't see the kid and tried to go past the adult, but the kid ran ahead. That is the car's fault for even trying.

    Stop normalizing it, this is 100% on the car

    My kid is autistic and sometimes he won’t let me. He’s really heavy so sometimes I try to carry him but tbh sometimes he just as to walk next to me

    That's a zebra lane. The car should stop

    Shoulda coulda woulda... but didnt tho

    Like three people commented the same thing and didn't get down voted. This sub is weird lol

    Exactly. The car is 100% in the wrong, but who the fuck just lets a kid that young just run blindly across the street?

    The kid wasn't running blindly, they were about 50cm away and were close enough to have been holding hands.

    He didn't. He LEAD the kid into the street.

  • walk out in a road when a car is coming. Gets mad at car.

    Countries outside of US have crossings that give pedestrians full right of way. This is likely one of those scenarios based on the width of the crosswalk, clear bike lane, and on the opposite lane there are signs on the street that likely indicate pedestrian crossing.

    Look both ways?

    the adult should have been more looking everywhere and could have the child holding his hand, ok with this but it’s not the primary thing here anyway.

    this said where i live (france) and for what i know on most near country i have gone pedestrians that make even the slightest indication they want to cross if there is no lightning indication or if it’s green have absolute priority.

    here the car is almost on them in the middle of it. same thing we have said for the adult is correct here too, he should have the time to not go over the cross and should have been able to stop way earlier if in control and looking at the road.

    any legal action here would charge the car driver here without a doubt.

    as i have begun, that does not mean you don’t have to take attention when crossing as you risk your life when the car driver not.

    adding to this, in some country like germanic one for example, people tend to over respect rules. this can lead on an habit to not risk anything by using your pedestrian rights.

  • What’s the over/under it was a woman driver?