I had a friend’s boyfriend buy me a ticket to a wrestling event so she would have another girl to go with them lol the amount of grown men carrying around belts on their shoulder was downright hilarious and embarrassing... The upside was that the ladies restroom was always empty.
I don't think it's embarrassing. That seems a little harsh. It's basically a stage play, or a soap opera, but with wrestling (which is, like, one of the foundational male-gendered pastimes since before even the first Olympics). A lot of people will say that men aren't into theatre without considering professional wrestling. Pro wrestling is theatre and it inspires many men to get into better physical health, which is always a good thing. Even beyond the wrestling characters, the people behind them are usually very positive role models for people to follow - John Cena himself has done the most Make-A-Wish events overall. Plus, pro wrestling is one of the few male-gendered spectacles that actually celebrates women for being physically very capable and strong (it's come a long way in respectability since the early 2000s).
Buying a replica championship belt is surely no different than buying a masquerade mask and taking it to see Phantom Of The Opera. Buying this many belts might be consoom, but one or two of your favourite belts is surely not weird.
It's also worth pointing out that you're going to see a lot of people with them at WWE shows particularly, because I think there are belts that they only really sell at those events (you can't just go out to the store and get one).
If you had a very large wwe themed man cave it could be pretty cool decor that (should) hold its resell value pretty well, but yeah just lining a normal wall like this is pretty wild.
If someone is willing to buy this and it will net a profit, then its an investment. This is super niche so I am skeptical someone will, but who knows.
I think this room easily qualifies as a shrine which makes me slightly uncomfortable wondering what kind of decision making skills allow this type of behavior.
As a former wrestling fan, the belt community is insane. It is very niche, but there's no shortage of people willing to drop several grand on one of these. They will absolutely be able to make a profit.
They're merchandise meant to be sold to fans. Each belt is a limited drop commemorating each location of John Cena's final appearances. I don't know if they're replica-quality or ring-quality though.
How do people afford to have collections like this? Even if they do eventually appreciate in value someday, that's an absurd amount of money to have tied up in things with such limited resale potential.
Were these only sold at the events, or were available to anyone online?
All sports memorabilia is similar, people will pay hundreds of dollars to stand in line for hours to get a guy who played decades ago to write their name on a ball and take a quick picture
The display clearly indicates it is not just an investment, and if it were, it would be a terrible one. Collectibles speculating is notoriously volatile. Whoever eventually has to try to sell these off will, almost certainly, get a lot less than what he paid for them
I was into collectible speculating for years and there is money to be made buying and selling niche items but the goal has to be making money not collecting.
Yeah, but it's so high risk. Even with specialized expert knowledge you're trying to time the market... imho the juice isn't worth the squeeze, there's a reason financial advisors never recommend this kind of thing. It's boring but it would be better to just put the 20k into an index fund.
Anyway I'm convinced wrestling-belt-guy bought them to build a shrine, not to flip
With a recession (or worse) looming, you gotta imagine collections like this are gonna be going up for sale all over soon enough. And the sellers are gonna get hosed.
It’s a very small community in part due to cost barrier to entry and the narrow combination of niche interests to warrant the purchases. A well known podcaster who collects the wrestlers title belts from the 80s-00s says there’s about a dozen people who are serious buyers, so if it’s on eBay, it’s probably fake.
Aight if the consoomer here cared about resale value he wouldn’t be hanging them up where they will attract dust. Like those vinyl nerds who never actually listen to their collection, you have to keep it hermetically sealed and stored in the dark lest its value fades.Â
I also wonder who will be interested in John Cena memorabilia in fifteen years’ time. I don’t know much about pro wrestling so maybe this is a coveted haulÂ
I like wwe and I like john Cena. I have an undertaker toy from when I was a kid. I feel like this beyond over the top. A friend of mine has 1 WWE title belt but he takes it to shows and cons and gets it signed. I think that's pretty cool.
I'm a big wrestling fan but I don't understand half of the nonsense people buy, grown men in the crowd with a title belt over their shoulder, why?
Sometimes if I go to an indie show I'll buy something to support the talent there as it's a tough industry to break into, but there's normally plenty of t shirts and hoodies available so I'll just grab one of them and then at least I have something I can actually use, most of the shirts just look like band tees.
Plenty of people like it, it's entertainment. I think people who shit on it and act like they're too cool for it are the ones who are lower IQ lmao. My nieces are into it and I took them to a show and it was as fun as the UFC event I went to.
drama, costumes, sometimes really cool feats of athleticism. Helps that my friend is a jobber so I enjoy getting to watch her be a part of matches, skits, entrances
Real question for the philosophy types in here: is it possible to invest in anything without consooming, even indirectly?
My first thought is investing in programs that clean up the negative effects of global consumption. Trash out of the ocean, recycled/renewable commodities etc. But what are the true costs of these investments?
Yes, I am a little high and yes, I really do look forward to the ensuing discussion
If you own this, and your name is not John Cena, you are certified insane
"and your NAME IS NOT JOHHNNNNN CEEEENAAAAA 🎺🎺🎺"
John Cena doesn't have this many of these things lol
I had a friend’s boyfriend buy me a ticket to a wrestling event so she would have another girl to go with them lol the amount of grown men carrying around belts on their shoulder was downright hilarious and embarrassing... The upside was that the ladies restroom was always empty.
I don't think it's embarrassing. That seems a little harsh. It's basically a stage play, or a soap opera, but with wrestling (which is, like, one of the foundational male-gendered pastimes since before even the first Olympics). A lot of people will say that men aren't into theatre without considering professional wrestling. Pro wrestling is theatre and it inspires many men to get into better physical health, which is always a good thing. Even beyond the wrestling characters, the people behind them are usually very positive role models for people to follow - John Cena himself has done the most Make-A-Wish events overall. Plus, pro wrestling is one of the few male-gendered spectacles that actually celebrates women for being physically very capable and strong (it's come a long way in respectability since the early 2000s).
Buying a replica championship belt is surely no different than buying a masquerade mask and taking it to see Phantom Of The Opera. Buying this many belts might be consoom, but one or two of your favourite belts is surely not weird.
It's also worth pointing out that you're going to see a lot of people with them at WWE shows particularly, because I think there are belts that they only really sell at those events (you can't just go out to the store and get one).
Well said
If you had a very large wwe themed man cave it could be pretty cool decor that (should) hold its resell value pretty well, but yeah just lining a normal wall like this is pretty wild.
If I went to someone's house and they showed me their John Cena belt room, I'd leave before they turned my skin into a wwe belt
But they'd do the hand thing and you wouldn't see them or some shit..
If someone is willing to buy this and it will net a profit, then its an investment. This is super niche so I am skeptical someone will, but who knows.
I think this room easily qualifies as a shrine which makes me slightly uncomfortable wondering what kind of decision making skills allow this type of behavior.
As a former wrestling fan, the belt community is insane. It is very niche, but there's no shortage of people willing to drop several grand on one of these. They will absolutely be able to make a profit.
assuming these are replicas? I don't know much about wrestling but this captured my curiousness
They're merchandise meant to be sold to fans. Each belt is a limited drop commemorating each location of John Cena's final appearances. I don't know if they're replica-quality or ring-quality though.
What do they cost retail?
$1099.99 USD each. Right now they're on sale for $934.99 each.
That's a fucking unreal price, limited run drops but not limited quantity? Absolutely crazy but to each there own
How do people afford to have collections like this? Even if they do eventually appreciate in value someday, that's an absurd amount of money to have tied up in things with such limited resale potential.
Were these only sold at the events, or were available to anyone online?
Same way there's guitar collections (How the fuck do people do it)
All sports memorabilia is similar, people will pay hundreds of dollars to stand in line for hours to get a guy who played decades ago to write their name on a ball and take a quick picture
For something that's all make believe
It’s theater. đźŽ
A TV show being scripted? no way
"Predetermined."
The display clearly indicates it is not just an investment, and if it were, it would be a terrible one. Collectibles speculating is notoriously volatile. Whoever eventually has to try to sell these off will, almost certainly, get a lot less than what he paid for them
I was into collectible speculating for years and there is money to be made buying and selling niche items but the goal has to be making money not collecting.
Yeah, but it's so high risk. Even with specialized expert knowledge you're trying to time the market... imho the juice isn't worth the squeeze, there's a reason financial advisors never recommend this kind of thing. It's boring but it would be better to just put the 20k into an index fund.
Anyway I'm convinced wrestling-belt-guy bought them to build a shrine, not to flip
With a recession (or worse) looming, you gotta imagine collections like this are gonna be going up for sale all over soon enough. And the sellers are gonna get hosed.
It’s a very small community in part due to cost barrier to entry and the narrow combination of niche interests to warrant the purchases. A well known podcaster who collects the wrestlers title belts from the 80s-00s says there’s about a dozen people who are serious buyers, so if it’s on eBay, it’s probably fake.
These merch belts are a whole other thing though
Aight if the consoomer here cared about resale value he wouldn’t be hanging them up where they will attract dust. Like those vinyl nerds who never actually listen to their collection, you have to keep it hermetically sealed and stored in the dark lest its value fades.Â
I also wonder who will be interested in John Cena memorabilia in fifteen years’ time. I don’t know much about pro wrestling so maybe this is a coveted haulÂ
I don't follow wrestling at all anymore, but I wasn't John Cena's "moment" already like 10 years ago?
Collecting these retirement tour souvenirs feels a lot like collecting Michael Jordan's Wizards jerseys or something.
Imagine owning, and paying for, a shrine of another guy's belts...
They really aren't even belts that appeared on TV either, they're just color coded for all the cities that were on Cena's retirement tour.
And not even real championship belts or anything. But rather souvenir "collectibles" pretty obviously produced as an easy cash grab at over $1k/pop.
I don’t even think Jon Cena has this much of his own stuff.
I like wwe and I like john Cena. I have an undertaker toy from when I was a kid. I feel like this beyond over the top. A friend of mine has 1 WWE title belt but he takes it to shows and cons and gets it signed. I think that's pretty cool.
Serious question: can we be sure that John Cena is not actually in this photograph?
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Constoopidity.
Useless junk, referring to this as an investment is insanity
Investment????
Who is going to care in 10 years? There will be a new John cena...
This one feels so weird. It's another man's achievements on your wall.
I'm a big wrestling fan but I don't understand half of the nonsense people buy, grown men in the crowd with a title belt over their shoulder, why?
Sometimes if I go to an indie show I'll buy something to support the talent there as it's a tough industry to break into, but there's normally plenty of t shirts and hoodies available so I'll just grab one of them and then at least I have something I can actually use, most of the shirts just look like band tees.
“Ruthless! Consumption!!”
it's like a trophy room for watching a soap opera. LMAO.
I don’t know why I thought “only 20k?” But I expected only an individual with 10 Mill to burn could even amass this
$20k? 🤯
Julian, it's a hungry world 🎶
imagine the level of a brain that watches wrestling.Â
It's a drama like soap operas, comic books, or weekly procedurals just in different costumes. Nothing wrong with entertainment.
Plenty of people like it, it's entertainment. I think people who shit on it and act like they're too cool for it are the ones who are lower IQ lmao. My nieces are into it and I took them to a show and it was as fun as the UFC event I went to.
Your inner 8-12 year old really comes out if you play along with the silliness, its fun
There's nothing wrong with enjoying wrestling. It's no different than other TV shows or movies.
drama, costumes, sometimes really cool feats of athleticism. Helps that my friend is a jobber so I enjoy getting to watch her be a part of matches, skits, entrances
I watch wrestling! If you have any questions about my brain, I’m happy to solve some mysteries for you.
Did you think we would doubt someone who bought all these commemorative belts to display in their home doesn't watch wrestling?
Wait. Did I say something to imply that I bought them? It's a screenshot of a Reddit post, look at the top.
My bad. I didn't look close enough at the picture and you seemed to know the pricing of the belts and what they represent.
Real question for the philosophy types in here: is it possible to invest in anything without consooming, even indirectly?
My first thought is investing in programs that clean up the negative effects of global consumption. Trash out of the ocean, recycled/renewable commodities etc. But what are the true costs of these investments?
Yes, I am a little high and yes, I really do look forward to the ensuing discussion
He's displaying them all which is consooming. Imo.
That's pretty awesome, not going to lie.
Who is John Cena?