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German here. Literally every party in parliament (there are 5) is pro-Israel even the so called "left". Even in the US there is some push-back. Absolutely none here and if you say anything you immediately get called an islamist anti-semite. It's pretty bad
I’m sure you know this already but a fun fact for the none Germans in here. The younger members of Die Linke (the left) recently called Israel a colonial and imperialist state that must be opposed. The main party had a total meltdown over it and called them antisemitic.
The more things change the more they stay the same it seems.
I wonder if someone is working on a comparison documentary between Israel and Nazi Germany where they use black and white photos of Gaza and you have to guess which ones are which.
Germany is like the canary in the coal mine of moral bankruptcy. This is the third time they've chosen to die on the hill of imperialism (and second time for genocide).
You'd be doing pretty well if you just watch what Germany does in any matter of extreme international contention, and do the exact opposite.
German here... Yeah, the meme is an understatement. They wouldn't say that every Palestinian should die, they'd claim that Palestinians don't exist and are a made up ethnicity, hence it can't be a genocide.
It's not even overcorrecting, but diverting. The Arab world needed to suffer for the crimes of Nazi Germany. Nowadays, remembrance culture isn't taught or teached any more, but antisemitism and the importance of the fight against it is always invoked when protests against Israel's genocide emerge.
The most absurd anti-Palestinian anti-Arab racism comes in germany from right wing reactionaries and white self identified "leftist" urban hipsters from "anti-german" adjacent circles.
its not outside of a normal ish traveling distance via regional services, sometimes go via there but not from the area or long on a regular basis, two hours northwest ish
There's something incredibly rotten and corrupting about German society/culture that produces this kind of mindset. Attempting to make amends for a Genocide by aiding and abetting another Genocide. Obscene stuff. When will Germany forgive Palestinians for Christian antisemitism and the Holocaust?
Apparently the ethnic cleansing, dehumanizing violence and total nihilistic destruction are the parts of the Holocaust today's Germans don't see a problem with. It must have been something else.
tbh i don't think germany is ashamed of the holocaust. every time you talk to a german liberal it's always "my grandpa was an ss oberstgruppenfuhrer and..." like they're proud of how sad they can pretend to be
The irony is, it's actually Israel putting resistance down with tanks. So technically, we should be calling the IDF tankies.
Funny story: I once got banned from r latestagecapitalism for making that joke, because they didn't like me using the word tankie. Despite the sarcastic context.
Actually the mods have always been quite the principled "tankies" themselves, they just can't control the largest socialist subreddit and prevent it from being constantly invaded by liberals 24/7, you probably just got unlucky with a tired mod who was just trying to go scorched earth with them libs.
I have lost count the amount of times I’ve gotten yelled at and called a Nazi for bringing up Israel’s war crimes and history in this damn country.
Had falling outs with family members for not seeing all Palestinians as “Islamists” that are all responsible for October 07.
When I point out that we used to say things like this in this country about Jews not too long ago they almost always explode in a rage I have never seen before from them. To quote a family member: “back then it was all lies but now it’s all true”. None of them are AFD voters btw.
I’ve started saying random facts about Israel just to point out to them how deeply propagandized they are. Said “mowing the lawn” last time and ofc they didn’t even know I was talking about Israel. It’s a Google search away, now you know what to google no more excuses.
It’s because they’ve somehow turned the guilt for the holocaust completely around and now they must protect Jews at all cost. Even if that means killing Muslims
I just had an uncomfortable chuckle, while contemplating how global anti-German sentiment from WW1 was one of the reasons Nazism found so much support in the post-great-war era.
Like, in the U.S. towards the end of WW1 there was German-American activist who opposed German imperialism, who was nevertheless lynched just for being German.
I think the joke is fine but we should be careful to actually point to cultural factors which have led to Germany doing what it keeps doing, rather than seriously suggesting it's somehow due to genetic inferiority in ethnic Germans or something.
I say this as a Jewish person watching the fears of "antisemitism" twisted and politicized to support modern-day Nazism in the broader Jewish community and seriously concerned about the rise of Nazism again in Germany also
because they're materially aligned with imperialism. same reason half of the american "left-wing" organizations, even "communist" ones (FRSO), are native american genocide deniers
I know this isn't the real reason, but in my head, it's because they're all grateful to Zionists for helping out the Nazis in the thirties with the Haavara agreement.
They’ve substituted support for Zionism with taking accountability for the holocaust. Without Zionism, they’d have to face their own crimes, and they can’t do it.
Maybe they should try making anime. Japan's crimes against humanity were just as bad as the Nazis, but they make cool cartoons so no one seems to care about their past
Because they don’t want Jews to come back to Germany. They will do anything to keep it this way. Germany got a slap on the wrist for what they did in both world wars and one of their punishments was to send the Jews they were trying to eliminate far far away to never bother them again as a “sorry.”
To be fair, advocating for nationalism (ethno-nationalism no less) is like, the exact opposite of anarchism. Anarchism is even more opposed to nationalism than communism.
This sentiment certainly exists in the german parlamentarian and liberal left like in some parts of "Die Linke" and broad parts of the green party, but there are countless pro-Palestine protests and online communities that are solidarily towards palestine.
I dont think bringing up anarchists is right. But maybe i know just the ones that like palestinians.
Seems more like a statement an "Antideutscher" would say.
I would also like to add, that the GDR recognized Palestine as some kind of brother state
anarchist here!
When anarchists actually read anarchist theory they either stop doing this or realize they were never anarchist at all. These people just let themselves fall for the left-dividing propaganda of the establishment
So it's like the word socialist that many use to describe themselves without knowing what it means, using the word for what they think it means while denouncing real socialists since in reality they are just progressive liberals painted in red.
I did not know that those people also infected anarchists spaces.
People are in lack of theory due to principal decentralization and rejection of leaders (that's why I often borrow some socialistic theory). So (at least in the West) democratic party "absorbed" them. Btw life quality is pretty high and philistine freedoms exist there so not much oblige them to be serious and learn something.
To be fair, the „anti-deutsche“ side of the left has always been insane.
And in Germany there is a pro palestinian movement and its pretty large i would say and even among older people theres no real love for israel but denying israels existence is something that due to our history and subsequent education simply is a diffucult thing to openly say.
It's called "Anti-Deutsche" and it's a mental illness.
Seriously, Antideutsche, anti German, is a movement created based on Frankfurter philosopher Theodor Adornos critical theory around the 90s, when Germany was united. When you read their theory, it feels like you understand what they are saying, only to find out, that they expect you to believe some arguments, just because they are explained in a black box, a reference to another book or article, where the same argument keeps unexplained and is just repeated.
Out of fear of the reestablishment of the Nazi Movement after Germany became one again, they started to propose their belief, that it's in the Germans nature to attack immigrants or Jews.
They eat what the "Jüdische Allgemeine" writes and what Netanjahus news outlets say.
When the German Bundeskanzler Friedrich Merz "allowed" German media to show pictures of children in Gaza, these assholes started to tell people, that these children where crippled, because of the Gaza "incest".
Anti-Germans are also a good example to what postmodern nonsense can lead to, they mostly picture themselves as this"rootless Cosmopolitan" archetype, interested in urban academic and and artistic circles. Dismissive of really existing socialist states, obsessed with seeing structures of oppression everywhere. But here they are white, often privileged morons cheering for the most obvious colonial genocide of our time.
There is a Movement called “Antideutsche Aktion” (Anti-German action), which are basically a group of Zionist nutjobs, who think that Palestinians are all Nazis and that Israel is (or could be) some kind of socialist and progressive utopia. Unfortunately, especially when criticizing them, the Nazis (including AfD fans) think first, that we’re on their side. The name doesn’t help obviously.
How they can be anarchists (who against state and hierarchy) and Zionist (that literally means create jewish state) at the same time?
Discussion level in Western Europe
The Rote Flora is literally the most pathetic mess of pseudo leftist chauvinists one could think of. They are so pro-state that they get visits by german public media
Ah yes. Our good old German "Anti"-Fascists (called "Antifa"). Not to be mistaken with actual Anti-Fascist movements from the Soviet Union who fought actual Nazis and fascists.
Our "Antifa" in Germany is just a bunch of mindless "rebellious" kids who don't know that they're controlled opposition, led by people who know very well that they're just controlled opposition. Even the parts of Antifa who aren't blatantly pro Zionism, are serving the imperialists by supporting idiotic western narratives who tell leftists that it's in their interest to fight real existing socialist and anti-imperialist states, because they are "evil" and "aUtHOriTariAn".
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this amazing essay commenting Achille Mbembe experience in Germany explains very well the thing with german left in general (not only the "buddy anarchist" meme) when Palestine is the subject
They arent our "comrades". They are a bunch of "antideutsche" zionists and are infant, the very opposite of everything communist, even if they claim otherwise. They have been infecting and infiltrating leftist groups since some time now. To see if a "communist" or antifashist org has a problem with antigermans is really a good view into their organisational and ideological thoroughness - the youth wing of the socdem "die Linke" party "solid" for example, even if Palestine solidarity is wide spread, has a huge antig issue.
But they also claim that lenin and Trotzki made the same mistake by choosing dictatorship of the few over "real democracy" so their ideological shipwreck is no wonder really.
Yeah it's fully fucked. It's not like there are no people here opposing the genocide loudly and openly.
But these voices aren't herad, aren't covered, or if they are, are smeared as horrible terroist loving antisemites and there is open and harsh repression by our government, and it's policeforce.
Stand up against genocide and you lose your job, are shunned, get beat to a pulp by cops and are punished with fines or even jail time.
There also is a self-proclaimed "left" movement called "Anti-Deutsche" (anti germans) that stand in unwavering solidarity with Israel, no matter what, and they have infected most accepted left circles.
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German here. Literally every party in parliament (there are 5) is pro-Israel even the so called "left". Even in the US there is some push-back. Absolutely none here and if you say anything you immediately get called an islamist anti-semite. It's pretty bad
I’m sure you know this already but a fun fact for the none Germans in here. The younger members of Die Linke (the left) recently called Israel a colonial and imperialist state that must be opposed. The main party had a total meltdown over it and called them antisemitic.
The more things change the more they stay the same it seems.
I wonder if someone is working on a comparison documentary between Israel and Nazi Germany where they use black and white photos of Gaza and you have to guess which ones are which.
I know there's a website where you get to see a quote and have to guess if it was a Zionist or a nazi who said it, let me find it
Edit; here we go
https://zionism.wtf/
That’s depressing, I wonder what they will do when the apartheid collapses. Maybe theyre do pro israel because theyv on recording raping children.
Or because they're doing in Gaza what Grandpa Hans used to do in London...
there are however plenty of Germans who organize and march for Palestine, fortunately
Germany is like the canary in the coal mine of moral bankruptcy. This is the third time they've chosen to die on the hill of imperialism (and second time for genocide).
You'd be doing pretty well if you just watch what Germany does in any matter of extreme international contention, and do the exact opposite.
World would be better if you guys won WW1.
There is something happening in Die LINKE but we’ll see if it leads to anything
The "islamist" bit in the west starts to remind me of something at this point...
And every party doesnt care about ukrainian Nazis. Politicians of the Green Party also visited known Neonazis in Odessa
German here... Yeah, the meme is an understatement. They wouldn't say that every Palestinian should die, they'd claim that Palestinians don't exist and are a made up ethnicity, hence it can't be a genocide.
These Germans are overcorrecting past sins by... Repeating history
Oh, it’s not repetition.
The Nazis at least acknowledged the existence of Jews.
This time the antideutsche aren’t even granting that concession.
It's not even overcorrecting, but diverting. The Arab world needed to suffer for the crimes of Nazi Germany. Nowadays, remembrance culture isn't taught or teached any more, but antisemitism and the importance of the fight against it is always invoked when protests against Israel's genocide emerge.
OK tbf the "nuclear holocaust" part was slightly exaggerated for the meme 😅, but I wouldn't doubt some would unironically think of something like this
It's funny to see that Die Linke is pretty close to being far-right.
The most absurd anti-Palestinian anti-Arab racism comes in germany from right wing reactionaries and white self identified "leftist" urban hipsters from "anti-german" adjacent circles.
Always on the wrong side of history
smth smth SPD
as a German socialist myself I would like to say I am so so sorry you have to live together with so many "leftist" morons
ehh its whatever there are enough marxists to get by the masses of kinda morons
do you live in Leipzig or something
its not outside of a normal ish traveling distance via regional services, sometimes go via there but not from the area or long on a regular basis, two hours northwest ish
I see I see
There's something incredibly rotten and corrupting about German society/culture that produces this kind of mindset. Attempting to make amends for a Genocide by aiding and abetting another Genocide. Obscene stuff. When will Germany forgive Palestinians for Christian antisemitism and the Holocaust?
That's my catch phrase
ill avoid rote flora then, jesus christ bro why cant most of us be fucking normal dude
Because they are not one of us
East Germany was the most normal the Germans had ever been.
Apparently the ethnic cleansing, dehumanizing violence and total nihilistic destruction are the parts of the Holocaust today's Germans don't see a problem with. It must have been something else.
tbh i don't think germany is ashamed of the holocaust. every time you talk to a german liberal it's always "my grandpa was an ss oberstgruppenfuhrer and..." like they're proud of how sad they can pretend to be
Dr. Hans-Georg Moeller called it guilt-pride, schulz-stotz. they invented it when they reunited he said.
And they wonder why we don’t take Anarchists seriously
Yup, only thing that's even slightly pro-Palestinian in Germany are tankies
😘
https://preview.redd.it/5dzyh77x7x7g1.jpeg?width=442&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ed8f0fef98398c3d612f8a68e218e8d05197bef5
The irony is, it's actually Israel putting resistance down with tanks. So technically, we should be calling the IDF tankies.
Funny story: I once got banned from r latestagecapitalism for making that joke, because they didn't like me using the word tankie. Despite the sarcastic context.
That's funny because that sub is literally full of blue liberals who use the word tankie unironically all the time.
The mods probably had an ideological mood swing since then, online purists are quite finicky.
Actually the mods have always been quite the principled "tankies" themselves, they just can't control the largest socialist subreddit and prevent it from being constantly invaded by liberals 24/7, you probably just got unlucky with a tired mod who was just trying to go scorched earth with them libs.
there definitely are anti zionists anarchists in germany tho although i think they are minority
Has nothing to do with them being anarchist, it's simply a German phenomena.
I'm from Spain and here most anarchists are extremely anti-Zionists.
Online anarchists are not and they also support NATO to a worrying degree. Am not saying that those things are consistent with anarchism.
I have lost count the amount of times I’ve gotten yelled at and called a Nazi for bringing up Israel’s war crimes and history in this damn country.
Had falling outs with family members for not seeing all Palestinians as “Islamists” that are all responsible for October 07. When I point out that we used to say things like this in this country about Jews not too long ago they almost always explode in a rage I have never seen before from them. To quote a family member: “back then it was all lies but now it’s all true”. None of them are AFD voters btw. I’ve started saying random facts about Israel just to point out to them how deeply propagandized they are. Said “mowing the lawn” last time and ofc they didn’t even know I was talking about Israel. It’s a Google search away, now you know what to google no more excuses.
Yeah, that's also true. People in Germany are ultra-Zionist for some reason
State-mandated Israel worship
worse, theyre believeing Generalplan nah-Ost
It’s because they’ve somehow turned the guilt for the holocaust completely around and now they must protect Jews at all cost. Even if that means killing Muslims
Why do German politics always end in genocide of some ethnic group(s)?
They can't help it. I guess it's in their blood.
(Is this blood libel?)
I just had an uncomfortable chuckle, while contemplating how global anti-German sentiment from WW1 was one of the reasons Nazism found so much support in the post-great-war era.
Like, in the U.S. towards the end of WW1 there was German-American activist who opposed German imperialism, who was nevertheless lynched just for being German.
I think the joke is fine but we should be careful to actually point to cultural factors which have led to Germany doing what it keeps doing, rather than seriously suggesting it's somehow due to genetic inferiority in ethnic Germans or something.
I say this as a Jewish person watching the fears of "antisemitism" twisted and politicized to support modern-day Nazism in the broader Jewish community and seriously concerned about the rise of Nazism again in Germany also
Unnaturally high concentration of Hitler particles in the area.
because they're materially aligned with imperialism. same reason half of the american "left-wing" organizations, even "communist" ones (FRSO), are native american genocide deniers
I know this isn't the real reason, but in my head, it's because they're all grateful to Zionists for helping out the Nazis in the thirties with the Haavara agreement.
They’ve substituted support for Zionism with taking accountability for the holocaust. Without Zionism, they’d have to face their own crimes, and they can’t do it.
Maybe they should try making anime. Japan's crimes against humanity were just as bad as the Nazis, but they make cool cartoons so no one seems to care about their past
Because they don’t want Jews to come back to Germany. They will do anything to keep it this way. Germany got a slap on the wrist for what they did in both world wars and one of their punishments was to send the Jews they were trying to eliminate far far away to never bother them again as a “sorry.”
To be fair, advocating for nationalism (ethno-nationalism no less) is like, the exact opposite of anarchism. Anarchism is even more opposed to nationalism than communism.
Exactly 😂😂. Istg these pseudo-leftists know nothing about politics (or anything really)
This sentiment certainly exists in the german parlamentarian and liberal left like in some parts of "Die Linke" and broad parts of the green party, but there are countless pro-Palestine protests and online communities that are solidarily towards palestine.
I dont think bringing up anarchists is right. But maybe i know just the ones that like palestinians.
Seems more like a statement an "Antideutscher" would say.
I would also like to add, that the GDR recognized Palestine as some kind of brother state
What are you talking about?. Die linke is a Zionist party. Not just some parts of the party. Stop whitewashing Zionists…
I never understood why anarchists are so pro establisment.
https://i.redd.it/by4dqcomou7g1.gif
Absolute classic
anarchist here! When anarchists actually read anarchist theory they either stop doing this or realize they were never anarchist at all. These people just let themselves fall for the left-dividing propaganda of the establishment
So it's like the word socialist that many use to describe themselves without knowing what it means, using the word for what they think it means while denouncing real socialists since in reality they are just progressive liberals painted in red.
I did not know that those people also infected anarchists spaces.
yeah it sucks
People are in lack of theory due to principal decentralization and rejection of leaders (that's why I often borrow some socialistic theory). So (at least in the West) democratic party "absorbed" them. Btw life quality is pretty high and philistine freedoms exist there so not much oblige them to be serious and learn something.
To be fair, the „anti-deutsche“ side of the left has always been insane. And in Germany there is a pro palestinian movement and its pretty large i would say and even among older people theres no real love for israel but denying israels existence is something that due to our history and subsequent education simply is a diffucult thing to openly say.
It's called "Anti-Deutsche" and it's a mental illness.
Seriously, Antideutsche, anti German, is a movement created based on Frankfurter philosopher Theodor Adornos critical theory around the 90s, when Germany was united. When you read their theory, it feels like you understand what they are saying, only to find out, that they expect you to believe some arguments, just because they are explained in a black box, a reference to another book or article, where the same argument keeps unexplained and is just repeated.
Out of fear of the reestablishment of the Nazi Movement after Germany became one again, they started to propose their belief, that it's in the Germans nature to attack immigrants or Jews.
They eat what the "Jüdische Allgemeine" writes and what Netanjahus news outlets say.
When the German Bundeskanzler Friedrich Merz "allowed" German media to show pictures of children in Gaza, these assholes started to tell people, that these children where crippled, because of the Gaza "incest".
Anti-Germans are also a good example to what postmodern nonsense can lead to, they mostly picture themselves as this"rootless Cosmopolitan" archetype, interested in urban academic and and artistic circles. Dismissive of really existing socialist states, obsessed with seeing structures of oppression everywhere. But here they are white, often privileged morons cheering for the most obvious colonial genocide of our time.
this is peak r/ShitLiberalsSay content
Funnily enough, that's where I got the Tweet from. LMAO
https://preview.redd.it/h09qup0w3x7g1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c388bd94d18495642f85e3fa08a920992ccb8a6b
There is a Movement called “Antideutsche Aktion” (Anti-German action), which are basically a group of Zionist nutjobs, who think that Palestinians are all Nazis and that Israel is (or could be) some kind of socialist and progressive utopia. Unfortunately, especially when criticizing them, the Nazis (including AfD fans) think first, that we’re on their side. The name doesn’t help obviously.
Yep, "Ultradeutsche" is in general more appropriate for them. I have never seen one of them who isn't a white german anyways.
Yeah, here in my town a leftist club has the banner "Free Gaza from Hamaz", which is just as bad :(
I though this was false flag stuff, but no one is propaganda safe
How they can be anarchists (who against state and hierarchy) and Zionist (that literally means create jewish state) at the same time? Discussion level in Western Europe
The Rote Flora is literally the most pathetic mess of pseudo leftist chauvinists one could think of. They are so pro-state that they get visits by german public media
Exhibit 1
Exhibit 3Sat
German "left" is full of Zionism and german Cauvinism.
There is no "left" in german.
God I hate it here
They murdered the jews once, i guess they want to let Israel have a take at genocide
"You're it! Now it's your turn!"
seems non arab sudanese ppl are commiting genocide next aswell
Germany pretty much became an Israeli cuck after WW2
we really need to strengthen the DKP and SDAJ
Oh no not die "rote" flora
Ah yes. Our good old German "Anti"-Fascists (called "Antifa"). Not to be mistaken with actual Anti-Fascist movements from the Soviet Union who fought actual Nazis and fascists.
Our "Antifa" in Germany is just a bunch of mindless "rebellious" kids who don't know that they're controlled opposition, led by people who know very well that they're just controlled opposition. Even the parts of Antifa who aren't blatantly pro Zionism, are serving the imperialists by supporting idiotic western narratives who tell leftists that it's in their interest to fight real existing socialist and anti-imperialist states, because they are "evil" and "aUtHOriTariAn".
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I always hear so much boasting about how Germans have learned from the past so well. But I'm not seeing it.
this amazing essay commenting Achille Mbembe experience in Germany explains very well the thing with german left in general (not only the "buddy anarchist" meme) when Palestine is the subject
german version
Wtf must be insane or """""""anarchist""""""" capitalists lmao
average antideutscher
That 2nd photo looks incredibly doctored.
Free world = allowing zionism? Oh my, we are indeed living in a post-truth world.
It's interesting how German "guilt" keeps on aiding the commission of Genocide and lining the pockets of German weapons manufacturers.
This German guilt just recently helped complete a deal between "Israel" and said corporations of a historical size. Just days ago.
What the fuck are those comrades doing? Are they stupid?
They arent our "comrades". They are a bunch of "antideutsche" zionists and are infant, the very opposite of everything communist, even if they claim otherwise. They have been infecting and infiltrating leftist groups since some time now. To see if a "communist" or antifashist org has a problem with antigermans is really a good view into their organisational and ideological thoroughness - the youth wing of the socdem "die Linke" party "solid" for example, even if Palestine solidarity is wide spread, has a huge antig issue. But they also claim that lenin and Trotzki made the same mistake by choosing dictatorship of the few over "real democracy" so their ideological shipwreck is no wonder really.
These aren't comrades.
Not yet. How can we win them over?
The same ways you can try rehabilitating any type of reactionary, tankie propaganda and then re-education camps!
yes
Anti Zionist german here:
Yeah it's fully fucked. It's not like there are no people here opposing the genocide loudly and openly.
But these voices aren't herad, aren't covered, or if they are, are smeared as horrible terroist loving antisemites and there is open and harsh repression by our government, and it's policeforce.
Stand up against genocide and you lose your job, are shunned, get beat to a pulp by cops and are punished with fines or even jail time.
There also is a self-proclaimed "left" movement called "Anti-Deutsche" (anti germans) that stand in unwavering solidarity with Israel, no matter what, and they have infected most accepted left circles.
Anarchists are such numbskulls
Thats not left wing.
East germany would not be doing this shit if the wall never came down 🤷♂️
Germany try to be on the right side of history challenge (impossible)
There is only black and white, you know...