A more appropriate greeting for john to say would be: “Hi, i’m john. I like getting railed by all genders, usually just on Tuesday evening because afterwards i cant walk.”
Pronouns actually don’t identify your gender. Those are just words that you feel the most comfortable with being called as. For example, some people can use he/him pronouns and still think of themselves as women.
Just use the ones that the person said you to use and everything should be fine. Using they/them for everyone also seems as a good idea ‘cause it’s neutral.
It's easier to just internalize the concept that pronouns don't HAVE to be associated with a certain gender. Anyone can use any pronouns at any time and it doesn't HAVE to have an impact on their identity. You could call yourself he/him rn and still identify as a woman just for the sake of it.
Labels and pronouns, when you're queer, are more about what fits on an individual level and less about checking boxes, cause no one realistically fits perfectly into certain boxes, but maybe they just wanna feel kinship or have a name to a face, ykwim?
'they' is neutral, you can use it anywhere, as it has been for a while, it doesnt necessarily imply anything about gender. Example: "I went to the doctor and they prescribed me a new medication"
He is masculine and they is nonbinary. They might be of a masculine nonbinary identity or anything else. For example a demiboy or boyflux or just nonbinary
but not to be too big of a bitch this is grammatically incorrect though right? wouldnt it be they/him or he/them? he/they is like he/she its the same thing twice
Honestly? That's what I do. It's a safe bet, and even if that's not how someone identifies I've yet to see anyone get bent out of shape over it. People aren't very kind to us these days, and the fact that you would make the effort in the first place means more to most gsrm people (gender/sexual/romantic minority) than whether or not you get it right by guessing. I've got a decently succinct graphic that can give a good breakdown of the terms you're seeing here, in case you end up feeling curious about what the terms mean:
Unless you lead with calling someone they, they say "actually I go by she" and you instead continue to exclusively refer to them as they, then them getting mad would be completely understandable as you're purposefully invalidating as opposed to accidentally misspeaking
This is honestly incredible because John here who is meant to be a caricature of sorts made to hate against a group is being depicted as doing absolutely nothing wrong; he merely introduced himself and explained their pronouns and the “normal” guy is being rude to him for no good reason
Nope. “They” is the correct gender neutral pronoun used for everyone. What I said was that it’s insufferable when they clarify “they” as one of their assigned pronouns.
The only exception is when they don’t wish to be called by gender-specific pronouns.
Because most people don't just use "they" as one of their pronouns. Using "they" after finding out someone's pronouns (and they don't use "they") is a form of misgendering and often done to trans people
Yeah, that is what this is about, and the need to clarify is because most people aren't fine with being called "they" after telling someone their pronouns don't include they/them, you were suggesting everyone uses it by default.
Certainly, I use they a lot. I believe the person you are talking to is saying that when someone finds out someone is transgender etc. the person will make a point of calling the transgender person ‘they’, instead of she or he e
Exactly; so it's not usually/always someone's specific pronouns, only what you use when you don't know someone's gender, hence the need to clarify that they use it otherwise too
I mean, if you don't know their gender, but if you know their pronouns and those don't include "they", that's a form of misgendering, hence the clarification that this person does want to be called they when referred to specifically.
You cut off the part of the sentence that explained what specifically he minds. He generally doesn’t mind using mixed pronouns, but he finds a specific case annoying.
they isn't grammatically correct if you know someone wants to use she or he and you're purposefully calling them they randomly. also really odd you're offended by they but go on to say you use they normally but how dare someone prefer it.
Are you truly this ignorant and uneducated that you think the pronouns “they/them” only apply when people feel like being called it? That’s now how it works. This is basic English.
Not only that, but I NEVER claimed that I’d be unwilling to call someone by their preferred pronouns. Read before you rant.
That’s not how it works. This is basic grammar. You see a person across the street and you want to refer to them, you’d typically say “they are across the street”.
i am not a raging malignant narcissist to think that an appropriate response to a simple greeting is "fuck off" because they dared use pronouns in their introduction.
John knows what he did
how does this both look like a wikihow article and ai at the same time?
It’s wikihow ai
wikAihow
He told him to fuck off because they’d already met, and he was upset John didn’t recognize him.
Ai?
Accidental comedy.
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r/accidentallycomedy
https://i.redd.it/wvcl2xdhqu6g1.gif
That is genuinely clever, well played.
jokes on you, I disabled autoplay gifs on mobile
Damn my reading skills, they’re usually faster than that.
Well played
Nice try, I read fast
Thought I was slick, but I got rickrolled as I was making a reply bruh.
Can't believe I got rickrolled lmao so good
Original image, yes. Current text, not sure. May have been edited by hand from the original.
Its him! John Pronouns!
inventor of pronouns?!
Doug Dimmadome, owner of the Dimmsdale Dimmadome
I don't watch the show, but I have this meme.
https://preview.redd.it/9sp5zenb6u6g1.jpeg?width=736&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=15a2cad58a68fd3166869ddd6771954e8c6b48ea
His VA died this week :(
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50/50
John WOKE!!!!!!
Never answer a call from John Woke at 3am 😱😱😱 (REAL not clickbait)
Jesus Christ, that's John Woke!
You called?
Go back to r/foundtheprotogen 😼
Go back to r/foundtheSHUTTHEFUCKUP 😼
It’s so unfunny I laughed
your're woke is: damn john
A more appropriate greeting for john to say would be: “Hi, i’m john. I like getting railed by all genders, usually just on Tuesday evening because afterwards i cant walk.”
John does look like a bottom
what the fuck are you talking about
I genuinely have no idea
Hello there John.
Apologies for the deception
A more appropriate greeting indeed
Does John not need to walk on Wednesday? Wouldn't Friday night be a better time for that activity.
John partakes in Wheelchair Wednesdays
You know you can buy a diary, right dude? no need to use reddit for these confessions
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im good man! im secure in myself 🕺
No you are not, I sucked the security out from your large throbbing cock using my plump mouth.
Yo, I got some extra security here!
Railer? Is that some kind of drug?
More like Amaturenouns, amirite?
https://preview.redd.it/8052zuucuv6g1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a60b0b58834676c48a759001372f4bca720f413f
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The artstyle is so soulless that you can mistake it for AI
Is it not?
FUCK OFF JOHN WEVE GOTTA GET ON WITH THESE
GOTTA COMPETE WITH THE WILY JAPANESE
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oof ouch ow my bones
Hi John
Has anyone drawn them kissing yet
Fuck off, John
I thought "he" means guy and "they" means non-binary. Now I'm more confused than ever, as one person can't be both at the same time...?^^
Pronouns actually don’t identify your gender. Those are just words that you feel the most comfortable with being called as. For example, some people can use he/him pronouns and still think of themselves as women.
Just use the ones that the person said you to use and everything should be fine. Using they/them for everyone also seems as a good idea ‘cause it’s neutral.
It's easier to just internalize the concept that pronouns don't HAVE to be associated with a certain gender. Anyone can use any pronouns at any time and it doesn't HAVE to have an impact on their identity. You could call yourself he/him rn and still identify as a woman just for the sake of it.
Labels and pronouns, when you're queer, are more about what fits on an individual level and less about checking boxes, cause no one realistically fits perfectly into certain boxes, but maybe they just wanna feel kinship or have a name to a face, ykwim?
My kid does. Gender fluidity is a thing
'they' is neutral, you can use it anywhere, as it has been for a while, it doesnt necessarily imply anything about gender. Example: "I went to the doctor and they prescribed me a new medication"
He is masculine and they is nonbinary. They might be of a masculine nonbinary identity or anything else. For example a demiboy or boyflux or just nonbinary
but not to be too big of a bitch this is grammatically incorrect though right? wouldnt it be they/him or he/them? he/they is like he/she its the same thing twice
No. It means you can use them interchangeably, not strictly that they only use one form of the pronouns.
You can call him a they. You can say something that belongs to them is his.
ah ok makes sense. just not used to seeing it put that way
Pronouns like he/they, she/they, etc. just means they go by either-or
Thanks for the explanation. I'm too old to memorize all that, but I guess "they" will in most cases be the best way to not accidentally offend anyone.
Honestly? That's what I do. It's a safe bet, and even if that's not how someone identifies I've yet to see anyone get bent out of shape over it. People aren't very kind to us these days, and the fact that you would make the effort in the first place means more to most gsrm people (gender/sexual/romantic minority) than whether or not you get it right by guessing. I've got a decently succinct graphic that can give a good breakdown of the terms you're seeing here, in case you end up feeling curious about what the terms mean:
https://preview.redd.it/n3t8urmgru6g1.jpeg?width=564&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=821d6f6a59d27caa14dfdaaa6dce086b49442b5b
"They" is pretty much always safe, if someone gets mad at you for "they" then they're just looking to get mad.
EDIT: u/mikemyers999 is correct, you can still use "they" to be a dick if you try hard enough.
Unless you lead with calling someone they, they say "actually I go by she" and you instead continue to exclusively refer to them as they, then them getting mad would be completely understandable as you're purposefully invalidating as opposed to accidentally misspeaking
you can be both. non binary can have gender preference to it. you don't need to perfectly be one thing.
This is honestly incredible because John here who is meant to be a caricature of sorts made to hate against a group is being depicted as doing absolutely nothing wrong; he merely introduced himself and explained their pronouns and the “normal” guy is being rude to him for no good reason
I'm just glad they're both happy.
They have rainbow hair to indicate that they’re gay
that was unnecessarily rude
I don’t mind if people want to used mixed pronouns, but it’s really fucking insufferable when they feel the need to include “they”.
No shit, Sherlock. Everyone goes by “they” it’s the grammatically correct gender neutral pronoun.
"I don’t mind if people want to used mixed pronouns, but it’s really fucking insufferable..."
This is you minding.
Nope. “They” is the correct gender neutral pronoun used for everyone. What I said was that it’s insufferable when they clarify “they” as one of their assigned pronouns.
The only exception is when they don’t wish to be called by gender-specific pronouns.
Why do people disagree with you, bro?
Because most people don't just use "they" as one of their pronouns. Using "they" after finding out someone's pronouns (and they don't use "they") is a form of misgendering and often done to trans people
What are you on about? I’m referring to people who use sex-specific pronouns and clarify “they” to also be of their pronouns.
Yeah, that is what this is about, and the need to clarify is because most people aren't fine with being called "they" after telling someone their pronouns don't include they/them, you were suggesting everyone uses it by default.
Everyone DOES use it by default. For the love of god, please attend school. If you’re in an English-speaking country you’ll learn this in class.
They do not? Someone who uses she/her does not also use "they/them" and it would be insulting to call her that after finding out her correct pronouns
Certainly, I use they a lot. I believe the person you are talking to is saying that when someone finds out someone is transgender etc. the person will make a point of calling the transgender person ‘they’, instead of she or he e
Brother, "they'' in most context is referring to someone; everyone is a they, because "they'' is not specific, it's vague.
Exactly; so it's not usually/always someone's specific pronouns, only what you use when you don't know someone's gender, hence the need to clarify that they use it otherwise too
But using " they " to refer to someone is just a given, no need to clarify.
I mean, if you don't know their gender, but if you know their pronouns and those don't include "they", that's a form of misgendering, hence the clarification that this person does want to be called they when referred to specifically.
You cut off the part of the sentence that explained what specifically he minds. He generally doesn’t mind using mixed pronouns, but he finds a specific case annoying.
ok good to know i guess
Happy to be part of the sharing circle.
they isn't grammatically correct if you know someone wants to use she or he and you're purposefully calling them they randomly. also really odd you're offended by they but go on to say you use they normally but how dare someone prefer it.
Are you truly this ignorant and uneducated that you think the pronouns “they/them” only apply when people feel like being called it? That’s now how it works. This is basic English.
Not only that, but I NEVER claimed that I’d be unwilling to call someone by their preferred pronouns. Read before you rant.
That’s not how it works. This is basic grammar. You see a person across the street and you want to refer to them, you’d typically say “they are across the street”.
There's a generation that can get another 40 years out of this joke.
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Of course its ai
Ai slop.
John looks chill asf, I'd hang out with them ngl
John shit in the seaweed at a Chinese resturaunt. It's why we don't talk to him anymore
on a whim, does anyone else here realize that the picture is A.I.?
of course its ai
I’m so deeply confused
Haha spot on
Perfection
I go by whatever so…
Hello whatever, I'm dad
Who/ Cares
And to no one's surprise, the guy on the right has no real friends. (Or anyone who likes him for that matter)
He have me since he my bro in gaming /s
Good.
His name is Fuck Off, John.
John Woke
I swear to God this is actually ai
ew, ai
his words say his pronouns are 'he/they'
his actions say his pronouns are 'my'
I'm not such a raging malignant narcissist to think that the English language needs to change to satisfy me or my own world view.
Me when I'm ragebaiting
It's a troll. Username+10 day old acct
Before you ask. I make the cupcakes out of meatloaf
2.5/10 bait
I’m going to touch you
Who invited Trump on reddit?
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inflates you making you big and round
Unique threat spotted
its ok to admit you didnt do well in elementary-level English classes:/
i am not a raging malignant narcissist to think that an appropriate response to a simple greeting is "fuck off" because they dared use pronouns in their introduction.
Doubt
Ok
What????
You good?
Are you sure about that, Mr Rizzler?
Rizz-elation 4:20
I am The Alpha and The Sigma
The Chud and The Chad
I will shill onto him who is Thirsty AF
The Gamer-Girl bathwater of life