They're doing it legally though. Not that I agree with it but the majority voted for this and unless you're ready to go to war with our country's police and military you're going to have to deal with it. That doesn't mean you can't make their lives a living hell by shutting down every facet of infrastructure that allows them to exist.
I wish I could join them in protest. The crazy guy in the White House will be stopped by ordinary citizens and end his rein. STAND UP AMERICA TO SAVE OUR COUNTRY !!
So I guess you would rather have a comatose president in the White House who allows his family to run the White House which is very similar to the way the Marcos people ran the Philippines or perhaps you'd just like to go to the Philippines and live there
Speaking of the Philippines, ex president Duterte once used the paramilitary police (PNP) to kill 10000s of his own (almost exclusivey poor) people in what Amnesty International and the ICC called a crime against humanity. Wanna take a guess who praised Duterte for it in a leaked 2017 phone call?
It’s a better, lawful outlet than violence and destruction. You probably wouldn’t understand that as someone who just spends time seething online and fantasizing about killing others (yeah, hiding your reddit comment history doesn’t work when other websites track what you say here).
edit: dude deleted his whole account after getting called out. Don’t let these psychopaths get in your heads, most of them aren’t real or live sad lives.
I see you are getting down voted, but not answered. I am very liberal, and horrified by ICE, Trump, and the state of our democracy in general. And I also don't fully understand what the statehouse protests accomplish. The Ohio Republican legislators don't give two 💩 about us marching in the cold, but I know it at least makes me feel a bit empowered, and less alone/hopeless.
Honestly? I don't know what else to do, other than vote, encourage others to vote, or donate to Dem campaigns if I can.
I would encourage others to genuinely respond with the effect the protests have for them. I'm sure there are sides I'm not seeing.
Where are our leaders? It would be great to have someone pull us together and lead us somewhere good. I’m sick of all these old white men. Both parties gave us crappy choices (initially) and we are suffering for it. A good leader could change the whole conversation, but no, it’s crickets! One has to wonder why.
Or maybe places like reddit and resetera alienated and demonized moderates and swing voters? I voted for Kamala but many people didn't. They stayed home or even went for Trump because they didn't like how they were treated. And they might have even hated Trump. But that's how bad the behavior in online spaces (and then real life) has been.
Swing voters are real. People who voted for Obama can still be won back for future elections. But to do that you need a positive vision and to be inclusive to everyone. You need to be willing to compromise.
People who vote for Nazis because Nazis didn't make them feel guilty for being on the fence about voting for Nazis are... Nazis.
But to do that you need a positive vision and to be inclusive to everyone. You need to be willing to compromise.
I don't know why people keep insisting this is the answer when the side that won projected a vision of hostility, was racist, sexist, and anti-lgbtq+, and refused to compromise on anything.
People who vote for Nazis because Nazis didn't make them feel guilty for being on the fence about voting for Nazis are... Nazis.
Ah. So "they are with us or against us" and you feel justified in hurting anyone who doesn't fall in line with your narrative. As a liberal Democrat who believes in individualism I am opposed to your conformist beliefs.
I don't know why people keep insisting this is the answer when the side that won projected a vision of hostility,
Because you don't beat the Republicans by being Republicans-lite. You beat them by being a true alternative to them.
racist, sexist, and anti-lgbtq+
And yet many POCs, women, and lgbtq people voted for them.
Interesting. We might not persuade Republicans but moderates and swing voters are a real thing. Remember that some current Republican voters also voted for Obama.
Ah. So "they are with us or against us" and you feel justified in hurting anyone who doesn't fall in line with your narrative.
We have tax-funded, armed, masked gangs of thugs assaulting, murdering, and detaining people, blatantly violating the Constitution and the rule of law while a not-insignificant portion of the population cheers them on, but yeah the big problem is that we're being too mean when we call them exactly what they are.
"Let's not be like them" wtf are you even talking about. Do you spend half as much time trying to talk them into treating other people like human beings as you do chastising other liberals for refusing to kiss their asses?
but yeah the big problem is that we're being too mean when we call them exactly what they are.
The problem is you are being too mean to people who disagree with you. Your attempts to bully people into agreeing with you are both unethical and counter-productive to your stated goals. It alienates moderates.
Do you spend half as much time trying to talk them into treating other people like human beings as you do chastising other liberals for refusing to kiss their asses?
Nope. Why would I want Republicans to win elections?
I mean, do you actually practice what you preach, or do you just just wank off to your own moral superiority while tone policing people who are pissed off about fascism?
Your post history is hidden (no shade, mine is too) but I think you should take a good honest look at what what percentage of your posts are spent trying to convince 'moderates' not to support Nazis via being super nice to them about it. I'm gonna take a wild bet that it's in the single digits.
You know who tone polices themselves? Politicians. They do it because they know it wins elections. You know who doesn't tone police themselves? Little children who will say whatever feels good to them.
who are pissed off about fascism
But not so pissed off that you would show the discipline to court moderates so that you can win elections.
what percentage of your posts are spent trying to convince 'moderates' not to support Nazis
Moderates already don't want to support Trump. You backed them into it.
I think protesting is like advertising. It can express to others how you feel and what you want. However. People need to understand that is not a guarantee that things will change in a way that you want them to. Advertising can help your cause but it isn't a guarantee.
It wasn’t BWC, it was the dudes cellphone, and it shows her actively turning her wheel and subsequently the wheelbase AWAY from the agent before driving forward.
The agent also then also has no regard for his actions after the fact.
Normally, I agree with your reply’s and actively support em but this one… nah, you’re just objectively wrong.
3mo old account with non-stop activity all over Reddit, top 1% commenter here in that time, either you’re a full time shit-stirer for hire or you need to get a job.
Full time job eating Trump's shit while you make out with his anus, part time stirring other people's shit. You don't have to tell us... We already knew.
If you have a strong argument you don't need to resort to character assassination.
Also what is with "shit stirrer" being a common reddit comment tonight. I mean, the funny thing about it is how transparently it is pushing for people to conform. It is an insult that implies people should obey the groupthink and if they don't they are stirring up shit."
Your fear and hatred of dissent is unhealthy and dangerous.
The wild mental gymnastics you have to perform to accuse the people who are angry about, and protesting against ICE of being the "conformists" is something.
Further down I even ask this idiot to come hit me up in my DMs if he wants to keep going - hardly fear of dissent I'd say - so you're entire comment is either ignoring what I wrote or just copy-paste concern trolling.
If you want to accuse someone of being an NPC maybe look in the mirror.
The wild mental gymnastics you have to perform to accuse the people who are angry about, and protesting against ICE of being the "conformists" is something.
Is it that wild? This sub in particular will downvote anyone who doesn't agree with the dominant narrative. Nuance is punished here. Moderates are gaslit. The posters and mods here are extremely tribal and has a "with us or against us" attitude.
Further down I even ask this idiot to come hit me up in my DMs if he wants to keep going
I'd be happy to continue the discussion in whatever way you like.
so you're entire comment is either ignoring what I wrote
So far I've haven't read any comment asking me to participate DM you. Link it I guess if you want me to read it.
hardly fear of dissent I'd say
Trying to bully those who have different views is indeed the action of someone who is afraid or insecure.
so you're entire comment is either ignoring what I wrote
I haven't read what you wrote.
or just copy-paste concern trolling.
Ah "concern trolling". One of the lamest ways to try to shut down people who disagree with you. It essential says, you've become so radicalized you can't imagine a moderate person even exists.
If you want to accuse someone of being an NPC maybe look in the mirror.
"I'm not a bot. If you want to see a bot go look in the mirror!" OK that's at least kind of funny.
Dude, I am far to the right of this sub but I’m not going to celebrate being people shot like the rest of you fucking psychos.
None of your responses address any of my points directly, if you read what you wrote in response to each of points it’s the equivalent of “nuh uh” with nothing to back it up - you’re not the big-brain, critical reasoning centrist you think you are.
I don't think I ever suggested we should celebrate people being shot. There is a lot of room between "this monster executed an innocent mother who was just minding her own business, we should riot" and "ICE shot a protestor, let's celebrate". How do you not get that?
None of your responses address any of my points directly
Can you pick one of your points you would like a direct response to?
you’re not the big-brain, critical reasoning centrist you think you are.
Well if a redditor whom I've never met says so, it must be true.
Also, I looked again. I see no comments asking me to participate in a DM. You sure you didn't confuse me with someone else?
How are these protestors rioting? You’re just one bad faith argument after another. It’s not my job to help you argue your poorly conceived points, while you conveniently ignored the one I made about in no way being a leftist which was inconvenient to your big “gotcha” argument.
Go back and reread what I wrote about taking things to DMs, I explicitly was talking about someone else.
I’m ending this here, if you want to keep arguing with me DM me, but so far nothing you have responded with has seemed in good faith, just gish gallop nonsense so don’t waste my time if it’s more of the same.
They haven't. Yet. But there have been calls on reddit for rioting. You know it as well as I do. People will say as much as they can get away with. There was a thread on askreddit this week saying "France is seeing riots now, what would have to happen for that to happen in the US" like riots are somehow desirable.
You’re just one bad faith argument after another.
I'm not sure you know what the words "bad faith" mean.
It’s not my job to help you argue your poorly conceived points,
I don't recall asking for your help. I did ask you to be specific when you made a vague and unsupported criticism of my responses.
while you conveniently ignored the one I made about in no way being a leftist
I never claimed you were.
which was inconvenient to your big “gotcha” argument.
What argument of mine do you believe is a "gotcha" argument?
Go back and reread what I wrote about taking things to DMs, I explicitly was talking about someone else.
Great. So maybe you aren't communicating as clearly as you think you are?
but so far nothing you have responded with has seemed in good faith
You really don't understand the term "good faith" either.
just gish gallop nonsense so don’t waste my time if it’s more of the same.
And you also don't seem to know what a gish gallop is.
I’m ending this here, if you want to keep arguing with me DM me,
Why? You seem to have a preference for DM. Is that so that you can say things that would get you banned on the sub?
You know what else is damning? Breaking protocol. Twice. By crossing the front of the vehicle. A woman was executed because this idiot couldn’t follow protocol and was crossing the front of her vehicle while she was trying to flee men who were charging her car, weapons drawn, for literally no reason.
This woman meant no harm “I’m not mad at you” were her exact words. She was inviting the agents to pass her car. Their response? Charge her with guns drawn when she had done nothing to incite that level of escalation.
Be in the same situation and don’t actively try to flee.
Defending this murderer and blaming the victim is either troll/bot behavior, or is coming from someone who is clearly unable to make sound arguments.
Since you keep replying and deleting, I'll answer here. What dent? Her lifeless body collapsed into the gas pedal and she crashed into a pole, that'll cause some dents. Notably, shooting her did not stop the car.
"Clipped" as he puts himself in front of a turning car. Even if he feared for this life. How does shooting the driver stop the car from running him over?
You know they released pretty damning BWC video, right?
Cam wasn't body worn. It was a hand held mobile device.
And it wasn't damning. Dude could/should have stepped out of the way when they ordered her to move along (though they also ordered her out of the car... cops LOVE giving contradicting orders so they can say you didn't comply either way.)
There was no reason for him to be standing where he was, nor should the guy even been on the streets in the first place after his trauma from a vehicle run-in 6 months prior.
There was no need for deadly force there either.
You're arguing in support of federal agents roaming US streets and shooting US citizens in the face. History will not be kind to you, and it is time you took a good look at what side you're on. Proud Boys, KKK members, literal neo-nazis all voted for Trump just like you did and you share a platform with them.
I love how you make a bold, yet inaccurate assumption that I am supporting the shooting. We see what happened in the lead up from the POV perspective. You hear her wife say, “drive! Drive baby drive!”
She was ordered to "move along" and to "get out of the vehicle."
Either way, they can say she "didn't comply."
Those ICE fucks are sorely under trained, under prepared and too ill-tempered to handle the job they are given and this situation proves that in spades. No reason to pull a weapon in this situation at all, yet he had it drawn before she even started trying to comply by moving on.
Trump paid for supporters at his early events. Thats a factual reality, like all those actors on the escalator at his announcement. That’s where that dumb ideas even comes from, and why it’s always projected onto his opponent by him when it’s his go to move.
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Now only if they’d remember the other amendments, namely, the second.
And the right to become ice officers and arrest the real ice officers.
Love to see it! 💪💪
FACT: ICE is now murdering WHITE US CITIZENS. FACT: ICE is now murdering UNARMED WHITE MOTHERS.
Trump and the Republican Party are now murdering FULLY LEGAL, WHITE, AMERICAN MOTHERS.
They're doing it legally though. Not that I agree with it but the majority voted for this and unless you're ready to go to war with our country's police and military you're going to have to deal with it. That doesn't mean you can't make their lives a living hell by shutting down every facet of infrastructure that allows them to exist.
They’re not doing it legally, they just aren’t being meaningfully challenged because our legal system is failing anyone who isn’t a rich fascist.
I wish I could join them in protest. The crazy guy in the White House will be stopped by ordinary citizens and end his rein. STAND UP AMERICA TO SAVE OUR COUNTRY !!
So I guess you would rather have a comatose president in the White House who allows his family to run the White House which is very similar to the way the Marcos people ran the Philippines or perhaps you'd just like to go to the Philippines and live there
you just literally described donald trump
Speaking of the Philippines, ex president Duterte once used the paramilitary police (PNP) to kill 10000s of his own (almost exclusivey poor) people in what Amnesty International and the ICC called a crime against humanity. Wanna take a guess who praised Duterte for it in a leaked 2017 phone call?
We have that now with Dementia Donnie. Can't even keep his eyes open while his sycophants glaze him during cabinet meetings.
Incoherent whataboutism. Try harder.
Hell yeah Columbus!
Incredible turnout!!! So proud of us!!!
.05% of Columbus showed up***
Fixed it for you.
Greater Columbus has a population of 2.2 million. If .05% showed up that would be 110,000 people.
Does that seem insignificant to you?
Not at all, actually you proved my point further. So .0005% of the population showed up?
Idk I didn't count everyone. But happy to see the good amount of people who showed up
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It’s a better, lawful outlet than violence and destruction. You probably wouldn’t understand that as someone who just spends time seething online and fantasizing about killing others (yeah, hiding your reddit comment history doesn’t work when other websites track what you say here).
edit: dude deleted his whole account after getting called out. Don’t let these psychopaths get in your heads, most of them aren’t real or live sad lives.
I see you are getting down voted, but not answered. I am very liberal, and horrified by ICE, Trump, and the state of our democracy in general. And I also don't fully understand what the statehouse protests accomplish. The Ohio Republican legislators don't give two 💩 about us marching in the cold, but I know it at least makes me feel a bit empowered, and less alone/hopeless.
Honestly? I don't know what else to do, other than vote, encourage others to vote, or donate to Dem campaigns if I can.
I would encourage others to genuinely respond with the effect the protests have for them. I'm sure there are sides I'm not seeing.
Where are our leaders? It would be great to have someone pull us together and lead us somewhere good. I’m sick of all these old white men. Both parties gave us crappy choices (initially) and we are suffering for it. A good leader could change the whole conversation, but no, it’s crickets! One has to wonder why.
Or maybe places like reddit and resetera alienated and demonized moderates and swing voters? I voted for Kamala but many people didn't. They stayed home or even went for Trump because they didn't like how they were treated. And they might have even hated Trump. But that's how bad the behavior in online spaces (and then real life) has been.
Swing voters are real. People who voted for Obama can still be won back for future elections. But to do that you need a positive vision and to be inclusive to everyone. You need to be willing to compromise.
People who vote for Nazis because Nazis didn't make them feel guilty for being on the fence about voting for Nazis are... Nazis.
I don't know why people keep insisting this is the answer when the side that won projected a vision of hostility, was racist, sexist, and anti-lgbtq+, and refused to compromise on anything.
Murphy'sMurc's Law continues to reign supreme.ETA: whoops, got the names mixed up. But basically this: https://whereofonecanspeak.com/2023/03/02/youve-probably-never-heard-of-murcs-law-but-youve-seen-it-in-action-lots-of-times/
Ah. So "they are with us or against us" and you feel justified in hurting anyone who doesn't fall in line with your narrative. As a liberal Democrat who believes in individualism I am opposed to your conformist beliefs.
Because you don't beat the Republicans by being Republicans-lite. You beat them by being a true alternative to them.
And yet many POCs, women, and lgbtq people voted for them.
Let's not be like them.
Interesting. We might not persuade Republicans but moderates and swing voters are a real thing. Remember that some current Republican voters also voted for Obama.
We have tax-funded, armed, masked gangs of thugs assaulting, murdering, and detaining people, blatantly violating the Constitution and the rule of law while a not-insignificant portion of the population cheers them on, but yeah the big problem is that we're being too mean when we call them exactly what they are.
"Let's not be like them" wtf are you even talking about. Do you spend half as much time trying to talk them into treating other people like human beings as you do chastising other liberals for refusing to kiss their asses?
The problem is you are being too mean to people who disagree with you. Your attempts to bully people into agreeing with you are both unethical and counter-productive to your stated goals. It alienates moderates.
Nope. Why would I want Republicans to win elections?
I mean, do you actually practice what you preach, or do you just just wank off to your own moral superiority while tone policing people who are pissed off about fascism?
Your post history is hidden (no shade, mine is too) but I think you should take a good honest look at what what percentage of your posts are spent trying to convince 'moderates' not to support Nazis via being super nice to them about it. I'm gonna take a wild bet that it's in the single digits.
You know who tone polices themselves? Politicians. They do it because they know it wins elections. You know who doesn't tone police themselves? Little children who will say whatever feels good to them.
But not so pissed off that you would show the discipline to court moderates so that you can win elections.
Moderates already don't want to support Trump. You backed them into it.
I think protesting is like advertising. It can express to others how you feel and what you want. However. People need to understand that is not a guarantee that things will change in a way that you want them to. Advertising can help your cause but it isn't a guarantee.
Are there people out tonight? Drove by the statehouse didn't see anyone
Saturday at 4 p.m.
You know they released pretty damning BWC video, right? Doesn’t look good for Ms. Good
Yeah I heard him call her a fucking bitch after he murders her in cold blood. What a psycho.
Yea, damning for the shooter
LOL keep goosesteppin', comrade.
It wasn’t BWC, it was the dudes cellphone, and it shows her actively turning her wheel and subsequently the wheelbase AWAY from the agent before driving forward.
The agent also then also has no regard for his actions after the fact.
Normally, I agree with your reply’s and actively support em but this one… nah, you’re just objectively wrong.
No this is a different angle
Then provide it.
3mo old account with non-stop activity all over Reddit, top 1% commenter here in that time, either you’re a full time shit-stirer for hire or you need to get a job.
Oh I have a FT job and a PT job. Thanks for your concern and your stupid flex.
Full time job eating Trump's shit while you make out with his anus, part time stirring other people's shit. You don't have to tell us... We already knew.
If you have a strong argument you don't need to resort to character assassination.
Also what is with "shit stirrer" being a common reddit comment tonight. I mean, the funny thing about it is how transparently it is pushing for people to conform. It is an insult that implies people should obey the groupthink and if they don't they are stirring up shit."
Your fear and hatred of dissent is unhealthy and dangerous.
The wild mental gymnastics you have to perform to accuse the people who are angry about, and protesting against ICE of being the "conformists" is something.
Further down I even ask this idiot to come hit me up in my DMs if he wants to keep going - hardly fear of dissent I'd say - so you're entire comment is either ignoring what I wrote or just copy-paste concern trolling.
If you want to accuse someone of being an NPC maybe look in the mirror.
Is it that wild? This sub in particular will downvote anyone who doesn't agree with the dominant narrative. Nuance is punished here. Moderates are gaslit. The posters and mods here are extremely tribal and has a "with us or against us" attitude.
I'd be happy to continue the discussion in whatever way you like.
So far I've haven't read any comment asking me to participate DM you. Link it I guess if you want me to read it.
Trying to bully those who have different views is indeed the action of someone who is afraid or insecure.
I haven't read what you wrote.
Ah "concern trolling". One of the lamest ways to try to shut down people who disagree with you. It essential says, you've become so radicalized you can't imagine a moderate person even exists.
"I'm not a bot. If you want to see a bot go look in the mirror!" OK that's at least kind of funny.
Dude, I am far to the right of this sub but I’m not going to celebrate being people shot like the rest of you fucking psychos.
None of your responses address any of my points directly, if you read what you wrote in response to each of points it’s the equivalent of “nuh uh” with nothing to back it up - you’re not the big-brain, critical reasoning centrist you think you are.
I don't think I ever suggested we should celebrate people being shot. There is a lot of room between "this monster executed an innocent mother who was just minding her own business, we should riot" and "ICE shot a protestor, let's celebrate". How do you not get that?
Can you pick one of your points you would like a direct response to?
Well if a redditor whom I've never met says so, it must be true.
Also, I looked again. I see no comments asking me to participate in a DM. You sure you didn't confuse me with someone else?
How are these protestors rioting? You’re just one bad faith argument after another. It’s not my job to help you argue your poorly conceived points, while you conveniently ignored the one I made about in no way being a leftist which was inconvenient to your big “gotcha” argument.
Go back and reread what I wrote about taking things to DMs, I explicitly was talking about someone else.
I’m ending this here, if you want to keep arguing with me DM me, but so far nothing you have responded with has seemed in good faith, just gish gallop nonsense so don’t waste my time if it’s more of the same.
They haven't. Yet. But there have been calls on reddit for rioting. You know it as well as I do. People will say as much as they can get away with. There was a thread on askreddit this week saying "France is seeing riots now, what would have to happen for that to happen in the US" like riots are somehow desirable.
I'm not sure you know what the words "bad faith" mean.
I don't recall asking for your help. I did ask you to be specific when you made a vague and unsupported criticism of my responses.
I never claimed you were.
What argument of mine do you believe is a "gotcha" argument?
Great. So maybe you aren't communicating as clearly as you think you are?
You really don't understand the term "good faith" either.
And you also don't seem to know what a gish gallop is.
Why? You seem to have a preference for DM. Is that so that you can say things that would get you banned on the sub?
You know what else is damning? Breaking protocol. Twice. By crossing the front of the vehicle. A woman was executed because this idiot couldn’t follow protocol and was crossing the front of her vehicle while she was trying to flee men who were charging her car, weapons drawn, for literally no reason.
This woman meant no harm “I’m not mad at you” were her exact words. She was inviting the agents to pass her car. Their response? Charge her with guns drawn when she had done nothing to incite that level of escalation.
Be in the same situation and don’t actively try to flee.
Defending this murderer and blaming the victim is either troll/bot behavior, or is coming from someone who is clearly unable to make sound arguments.
MAGAt troll account block and move on.
Top 1% bot
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Oops! The BWC is already busting narratives.
Might need to consider seeing an eye doctor if you think the video from the murderer has proven innocence.
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Can you not see? It's clear as daylight he gets clipped by the car. Explain the dent then.
Since you keep replying and deleting, I'll answer here. What dent? Her lifeless body collapsed into the gas pedal and she crashed into a pole, that'll cause some dents. Notably, shooting her did not stop the car.
"Clipped" as he puts himself in front of a turning car. Even if he feared for this life. How does shooting the driver stop the car from running him over?
Cam wasn't body worn. It was a hand held mobile device.
And it wasn't damning. Dude could/should have stepped out of the way when they ordered her to move along (though they also ordered her out of the car... cops LOVE giving contradicting orders so they can say you didn't comply either way.)
There was no reason for him to be standing where he was, nor should the guy even been on the streets in the first place after his trauma from a vehicle run-in 6 months prior.
There was no need for deadly force there either.
You're arguing in support of federal agents roaming US streets and shooting US citizens in the face. History will not be kind to you, and it is time you took a good look at what side you're on. Proud Boys, KKK members, literal neo-nazis all voted for Trump just like you did and you share a platform with them.
I love how you make a bold, yet inaccurate assumption that I am supporting the shooting. We see what happened in the lead up from the POV perspective. You hear her wife say, “drive! Drive baby drive!”
Right. Not "Run over the guy." Indeed it was more "Let's just get away from these dicks."
So we agree she was ordered to flee law enforcement by her spouse.
She was ordered to "move along" and to "get out of the vehicle."
Either way, they can say she "didn't comply."
Those ICE fucks are sorely under trained, under prepared and too ill-tempered to handle the job they are given and this situation proves that in spades. No reason to pull a weapon in this situation at all, yet he had it drawn before she even started trying to comply by moving on.
Got any tips for best way to season boots?
Yea, shove them up your ass and then down your own throat..lol. Enjoy your cuisine.
Sorry, the tip wasn't for me, I'm not in the "please tread on me daddy Trump" party
Yea, you are the “let’s burn this place down” party
I mean, if you believe those are the only two options, then yeah. Let's burn it down.
How many are getting paid to protest vs genuinely care? Do your homework.
Many protests are well funded by ultra wealthy and not some spontaneous grassroots movement.
The folk are getting played by both sides. Wake-up! My best advice, get off their merry-go-round ride.
Lol
One of my favorite baseless conspiracy theories, keep up the good work!
Trump paid for supporters at his early events. Thats a factual reality, like all those actors on the escalator at his announcement. That’s where that dumb ideas even comes from, and why it’s always projected onto his opponent by him when it’s his go to move.
Hopefully they are all there to protest the board of pharmacy attempting to ban Kratom again...
Which protest is this for? The No Kings, Venezuela or Abolish ICE. It's hard to keep up with you insane liberals.