Preseason
This is a series I've been doing on /r/CollegeBasketball for 3 years, and now /r/CFB for 7. The post attempts to visualize consistency between voters in the AP Poll in a single image. Additionally it sorts each AP voter by similarity to the group. Notably, this is not a measure of how "good" a voter is, just how consistent they are with the group. Especially preseason, having a diversity of opinions and ranking styles is advantageous to having a true consensus poll. Polls tend to coalesce towards each other as the season goes on.
The Poll has 63 voters this year, with the following breakdown:
| 4+ Years | B.J. Rains, Ben Steele, Bob Holt, Brian Holland, Bruce Pascoe, Chris Murray, Dave Borges, Dave Matter, Dave Preston, David Cloninger, Dick Vitale, Donna Ditota, Geoff Grammer, James Crepea, Jeff Call, Jerry Carino, Jesse Newell, John Werner, Jon Rothstein, Jon Wilner, Kevin McNamara, Lauren Brownlow, Luke DeCock, Marcus Fuller, Mark Berman, Paul Klee, Rick Bozich, Scott Richey, Scott Wolf, Seth Davis, Sheldon Mickles, Steve Hewitt |
| Other Returners | Chad Leistikow, Chris Basnett, Jeff Rabjohns, Kevin Brockway, Nick Suss, Stephen Means, Wayne Epps, Zach Klein, Bob Ballou, Clayton Collier, David Jablonski, Donald Hunt, Ethan Joyce, Jeff Borzello, Justin Jackson, Matt Murschel, Stephen Tsai, Bennett Conlin |
| First Year | Andrew Kahn, Aria Gerson, Bret Bloomquist, Bryce Miller, Jeff Welsch, Mia O'Brien, Mike Rodak, Nick Kelly, Steve Greenberg, Jerry DiPaola, Kelly Hines |
| Returning after last year off | Terry Toohey, Theo Lawson |
| Leaving the Poll | Brian McInnis, Cecil Hurt, Craig Meyer, Edgar Thompson, Joe Juliano, Ken Weinman, Shannon Ryan, Adam Grosbard, Jack Ebling, Joe Buettner, Jordan Hansen, Lauren Kirschman, Sam Blum, Troy Provost-Heron, Josh Vitale |
A pair of Kellys, Kelly Hines and Nick Kelly were the most consistent voters in the preseason poll. Terry Toohey, Jeff Borzello, Chris Murray, and Jeff Call were not far behind.
The biggest outlier was Dave Borges, followed by Jon Wilner, Donald Hunt, Bob Ballou, and Stephen Tsai.
Apparently Stephen Means just forgot about us. Or he blocked that Ivey step back three out of his mind?
I'm guessing that makes Purdue the highest ranked team to not be included on a ballot.
Perhaps memories of 49-20 in football came flooding back after the Iowa game this weekend xD
Also note Means had us at 17 in the last poll of last season. So this must have been an error because I don't see how we could move down in ranking given that we lost nobody of note, gained freshmen who will have an impact, and have a lot of talent that were freshmen last year (and so you would expect improvement)
So if he put us 7 would we have moved over Michigan or Texas?
No, we are 42 points behind Michigan
didn't forget richmond, though
People are all over the place on Memphis. One dude ranked them 2nd and another ranked them 20th. Seems like there isn’t really a consensus on where to put them
Edit: Very interesting thing I just noticed. Memphis is ranked 12th, but only one voter put them at 12th
On paper they're good. But Penny hasn't made a tourney yet.
Yeah I would say they are 6th on my list talent wise but...
Do I trust a coach like Coach K or even Eric Musselman with the talent they have over them
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It’s the opposite in football, where the top teams are red.
Justin jackson youve made the list
I hope Dave Borges knows something we don’t.
I love Jon Wilner
"Fuck them dogs!"
Same but as a Memphis fan, Luke Decock gets the gold star this week
Luke DeCock sounds like the fake name a serial flasher would give the police.
But Michigan at 12th and UCLA at 1st is just wrong
Did… did Dave Borges forget Kentucky?
He’s a deep cover Hoosier agent.
Bruce Pascoe, you're a cool guy imo
Wasn’t Zach listed as affiliated with Georgia in the CFB ? Why wouldn’t it change for this?
I'll look into this, the voter affiliations are intended with a grain of salt and are usually done by a quick inspection of their Twitter feed. Occasionally a voter will DM me and ask for an update.
UCLA at 1 and Michigan at 12 is a scorching hot take
I've always said Bret Bloomquist is the best AP voter. Always said it, def not because he has us at 13 (two spots above Duke).
Bozich having a vote might be a good indicator that the AP poll shouldn’t be taken seriously