Receiving Votes: Seton Hall 122, Tennessee 116, Villanova 95, Saint Mary's 92, Kansas 86, Iowa 77, UCF 74, Miami (FL) 55, St. John's 35, SMU 28, Indiana 24, George Mason 13, Texas A&M 11, Wisconsin 9, New Mexico 4, Oklahoma State 3, UNC Wilmington 3, USC 3, Auburn 1, Belmont 1, LSU 1, TCU 1
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THE Miami University finally ranked, love to see it. Though this probably means this is the week they lose a game lol
347th best SOS in the league. Fun story, love Almar, a top-25 team they are nowhere close to being
How does Michigan still have first place votes after losing unranked at home?
I mean they lost to the team that beat Michigan at Michigan
Goddamn. Brilliant point. It was right in front of us all the time and we didn't even see it . . .
That's a bit of a mystery to me. Michigan had a pretty terrible week. The only thing I can think of is that the people who ranked them #1 gave too much weight to metrics. They looked awful in both games.
They did look bad for their standards last week. I think you’re spot on re: the metrics viewpoint and why people would vote them #1. I believe they are still the best team in the country but that doesn’t mean they should be the #1 ranked team in the poll at a point in time after a loss and an ugly win.
At a certain point you have to separate metrics. It makes total sense for them to be 1 in metrics, but what's the point in a human poll if all you're doing is cribbing kenpom?
Oh I agree with you. To me the rankings are kind of a blend of power rankings with some level of metrics factored in. Like I said I still think Michigan is the best team in the country but if I had a vote I would put them 2nd or 3rd behind Arizona and Iowa State
Why wouldn’t you vote for the team you believe to be the best team in the country as #1?
I mean, you would, but at the same time you should be reasonable about it. Michigan certainly did not play like the best team in the country this past week, and I have some Michigan loyalties despite my flair. The only way you could justify them being #1 would be metrics, and even that is shaky because Arizona clobbered their opponents this week while Michigan barely eked out a 1-1 record, including a game against a very bad Penn State team where they trailed for most of it.
Yeah, this. I don't need a voter to just mirror the metrics; if I wanted to, I could just go look at the metrics myself. Polls are still useful as long as they tell the story that pure metrics cannot.
Not a great look when the AP poll has more reasonable voters than the poll in the sub.
And almost lost both their games if PSU hits that last second 3.
I honestly don't get how they're even ahead of us (UConn). Our loss is way better. We lost to the then #4/now #1 team by 4 without two starters.
ISU has earned the #2 spot with their excellent resume, but I think UConn beats ISU at least 6 out of 10 games if they played on a neutral court.
60% of the time they win every time
UConn's loss is way better, but I think Michigan's wins and the manner of them overcome the difference
Some metrics still say they are the best team
That's not how polls work, though. If we want to rank teams based on metrics, we wouldn't need to have people voting. Their metrics may be great, but a loss is still a loss. No amount of metrics will make the outcome of the game any different.
The argument goes like this:
That's not what I believe, but I can see it being a reasonable take. Arizona should be #1 this week, though.
Top 40 team that shot 10/12 from 3 in the second half. Shit happens sometimes. i hope we respond @ Washington and @ Oregon
That is how polls work, if you read the rules for this poll it’s explicit that you can use your honest perception of their strength. Metrics are a reliable perception of strength - and for the record I think it’s silly to have Michigan #1 right now too but people have a right to vote how they choose as long as it’s in good faith.
The guy who moved Michigan UP over ISU and Arizona cannot possibly say he was voting in good faith this week.
Oh I see. Well I hope you’ve contacted the proper authorities, we need to get to the bottom of this injustice.
Yeah, well, you know, that’s just like, your opinion man
I mean it is how polls work. If everyone voted the same way taking the exact same things into consideration then we’d just ask 1 guy and it wouldn’t be a poll.
Polls can work however those voting decide lol. Subjective. Some rank on resume, some on eye test, some on analytics.
Is this what disrespect feels like?
You are going to love this clown ride of a poll
https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/college-basketball-rankings-arizona-nebraska-top-25-and-1/
wym? Looks perfectly fine to me. Only thing that doesn't make sense is why isn't Miami #5?
I totally agree! That’s how I ordered my top 5.
Lmao that dumbass kept UH #12 after the great week we just had and moved Tech UP 2 SPOTS for losing to us.
Everyone knows Parrish is a hairdo
Gary Parrish’s overinsistence (and inconsistency) on resume for his rankings is so ridiculous
You’re still 17 at KenPom. Those who factor in margin of victory may not be as high on Nebrasketball
T-Rank has them as the luckiest team in the country. They're good, but they're not that good. Still need to win an NCAAT game before they worry about "disrespect."
I'm sorry, but I was under the impression this was a poll for this season, why are you bringing up previous years? Or should I just submit the All Time AP poll as my ballot since we're accounting for legacy?
Because it's funny.
If you were to go through my post history, you'd see I defended Hoiberg when he was on the hot seat.
All right. Maybe I need to thicken my skin up a bit.
This was more tongue in cheek I guess like we’ve never been good enough to be disrespected so I don’t know if this is it, I’m not really surprised.
I do think that our resume is on par with any other undefeated team ranked ahead of us but I get it.
u/call_mee_santa, u/jomosensual, and u/Jaze1 were the three voters who still have Michigan ranked #1. I am more than a little curious to hear what your rationale was for your ranking this week... and what more Arizona and Iowa State have to do to climb over Michigan in your mind.
An Iowa State fan giving Michigan a #1 vote is an extremely funny bit.
Probably accidentally submitted last week's poll.
Or maybe just trying to avoid that #1 voodoo?
I feel like it's the same with usernames in this poll as it is with refs-- if I know your name, it's probably not a good thing. And I've been taking exception to Jomo's polls for years lol
They... uh, didn't rank BYU... I'm not sure what more I can say.
He had them last week pretty high so I'm assuming it was an accidental omission. Would love to hear his rationale for Michigan #1, though.
God fucking dammit. I knew i missed someone. See above
deflair please lol
LMAO. (it's only a matter of time before someone directs this exact same comment at me with how much time I spend celebrating the success of other teams than Arizona).
I’m all in on Arizona going undefeated for the season! Unless, of course we meet in the FF or NC.
It seems like Jomo's ballot must be a mistake. Either that, or he's trolling. His previous two ballots had Arizona at 1 and ISU at 2, and there's no way someone would intentionally move Michigan up to 1 this week in good faith.
Yeah, I didn't look back at their historical polls. And I see that they had BYU ranked last week. I'm assuming that mistakes were made on their part. Though... not small ones.
I only looked because I was curious to see how he dealt with us leading into this week as an ISU guy. I was not expecting what I found.
I can see people looking at Michigan's body of work up to this point holding enough weight to hold that spot. I do not agree, but it isn't that wild. Two of them seem to be putting respect on Vanderbilt which I am all in on as well. Vanderbilt is being slept on this season.
Which is why I am asking, and not accusing.
One of them has Michigan and then Arizona, Vanderbilt, ISU, and Nebraska. Which would seem to show that winning is a strong leading indicator for them.
One of them is missing BYU altogether, which makes me rather suspicious of their ballot, period.
And the last one has Vanderbilt ranked 4th (after Michigan, Arizona, and ISU, and then Purdue and Nebraska, which hints at the idea that they aren't purely basing their rankings on metrics).
So I'm curious to hear how they arrived at their rankings.
That's fair, although with regards to BYU, I often try to ignore that they exist as an entity for many reasons. :) At some point in the past 6 months BYU has placed itself alongside ASU as teams I absolutely hate.
They obviously took a wrong turn on their way to the r/dontknowsports subreddit.
They could have started by making me not be sick and forgetting about it all day until after 11pm where I had to do a severe rush job of a ballot to finish. When i dont feel like complete dogshit next week(god willing) ill be able to put more brain power into comparing resumes.
IIRC when I looked at it they were all very similar resume wise
Oooof. Feel better soon.
Resume? Oh yeah, the overall resume looks great between the top 3.
IMO the last two games from each team showed a bit more of who they are, and both Arizona and ISU moved significantly closer to Michigan in terms of metrics, and they did so by winning, and by Michigan slipping down.
Appreciate the response.
(Also, just because it's been pointed out earlier, you missed BYU).
You shouldn’t be a ranker if you don’t post in over a month, two of them are barely on Reddit.
Just because i dont post/comment dosnt mean im not on everyday lol
So, since you’re here, can you shed some light on your ballot / ranking methods?
You still have Michigan #1, but then follow them directly with Arizona, Vanderbilt, Iowa State, and Nebraska (in that order) so clearly being undefeated is a major factor in your voting, except for #1.
You have UConn at 19. I’m not even sure how to properly talk about that, other than you have them below Indiana.
I may be biased, but that #19 ranking is actually clinically insane. They're below 3 teams that they beat. Two of those teams have 5 losses. All 3 games were neutral site or on the road. Their only loss is to his #2 team by 4.
Like I said “I’m not even sure how to properly talk about that”.
It’s not like a difference of opinion. Metrics strongly support UConn. UConn’s sole loss was to the (now) #1 team in the nation, when UConn was down key players.
It’s a very weird ballot. I’d love to know how it came to be.
I don’t really care about their presence online. I care far more about their methodology.
Michigan loses an unranked home game and barely beats PSU but barely drops . . and still has first place votes? Cmon.
EDIT: Michigan has as many first-place votes as undefeated Iowa State, who has a blowout road win over a top 5 team. That's ridiculous.
Yeah I wasn't upset with Michigan being 1 the last few weeks but having them at 1 now is inexcusable imo.
Revoke voting privileges of the 3 that voted Mich #1!
This^
Them having the same amount as Iowa State is crazy work. Michigan is a good team but damn dude
Hot take: they should be behind both UConn and ourselves. We each have one home loss, but ours is to the #2 team in the nation and theirs is to a team we beat by 16 on the road. They barely escaped Penn State too, and if we're using metrics then we've been the #1 team since the Iowa State loss according to Bart Torvik.
Some people weigh KenPom very heavily
I think that has to be it. They’re ranking mostly (or solely) based off metrics.
That's how games work. The teams with the best metrics are crowned champions, regardless of game outcomes.
The User Poll invites people who do human rankings and people who do solely computer based rankings. My assumption is that the computers still really like us
That loss brought them down like 3 whole points in adjEM. they’re still first but now they’re not in their own universe anymore. Right now I’d have them 4th behind UConn ISU and Arizona
Michigan was nearly at 40 for adjEM to start last week. Eeking out the W against PSU dropped them by a couple points, then the Wisconsin loss dropped them another 2+ points. to barely above 35 now.
I think UConn also has a solid argument for jumping Michigan. Their close home loss was to #1 and they were missing two starters. They also have a better resume imo.
I don't disagree at all. It's just obnoxious that this sub acts like the metrics are the actual game results and voted based on that.
"...ranking who they believe to be the best teams in NCAA Division I men's basketball"
"Rank the teams according to your honest perception of their strength"
To play devil's advocate, if a method is a more accurate way of judging which teams are the best/strongest teams than "actual game results" (which are obviously the main input into the metrics), why would you not vote based on that? The poll is not a measure of which team has the best resume.
Michigan above UConn is insane lmaoooo
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Nah. The real pollsters just did the right thing and ranked UConn ahead of Michigan. Results matter in weekly polls.
I’ll be interested to see what the AP does, assuming they don’t have people voting who blindly follow metrics
The gap between ranks aren’t uniform. Before this week, #1 Michigan was a fair gap above everyone but Arizona. They’re probably closer to the #25 team than the #1 team now, but that’s actually not inconsistent with falling to #3.
Finally! Love and Honor!
And for once it’s legit and now some voters clicking your school instead of Miami U.
Keep rocking!
Sir we are Miami University. The Miami Florida is the University of Miami. We were a University before Florida was even a state just saying lol
THE Miami University
It was one of the schools I really wanted my daughter to go to! It’s got everything she was looking for.
I also selfishly loved Ole Miss - I think going to a game in the Grove would have been great. But she also may have flunked out.
Utah state, st louis, and miami (oh) ranked.
What a time for mid-major fans
Alabama only falling 3 spots to 16 after an 0-2 week is crazy.
It’s quite interesting that Miami OH somehow cracked the top 25 in this poll when they are only #8 in the Reddit midmajor poll.
That's a really interesting point. Especially when you see Saint Mary's at 29th and SDSU receiving no votes. The frame of reference shift provides for a glimpse of how folks who aren't focused on the mid-majors see them.
Thank God Michigan is the best team of all time, otherwise I'd be wondering why they were still top 3
Michigan still getting 1st place votes after a Quad 2 loss at home certainly is a choice. Some people will do anything to not vote for the Big 12 lol
Yeah this is crazy, not to mention they didn't look good at all against Penn State in addition.
Exactly. Getting the same number of first place votes as Iowa State is fucking idiotic
The problem with this Quad take is it discounts the size of Michigan's Quad 1/1A wins.
Arizona has been more consistent. People weigh those qualities differently.
Yeah I get what you mean, it's just baffling to me that they still get these #1 votes based heavily on certain metrics after what we witnessed on the court.
Agreed. Michigan was an all-time heater to start the season, but they've cooled off to just really good (but within normal bounds) since. Also, a team like Arizona that performs at a consistently high level will meet the key criteria for a championship team by the end of the season, and should be favored to make the FF.
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they'd still be a 1 if a mock bracket was made right now but them not dropping to 5 on a poll is crazy since even purdues loss wasn't as bad lol
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The ordering of the top 11 makes very little sense. How is Houston below Gonzaga? How is Michigan still above UConn? How does Duke drop for getting 2 Q1 wins?
I mean Gonzaga is ahead of Houston in essentially every predictive and resume metric. It’s all close so I don’t think it’s crazy if people want to put Houston ahead, but I also definitely don’t think it’s crazy to have the Zags ahead.
How does Houston keep getting bumped down?? Was it UH that just lost to an unranked Wisconsin?
weirdly the ap poll has been higher on us than the reddit poll this year lol
The AP voters that have disrespected Houston have been successfully bullied out of the poll, so those that remain are more favorable.
The top 11 is extremely good this year and it is very tough to move up in it. From this current group of 11 there has been 1 loss total in the last 2 weeks (Michigan's). And only 1 additional loss in the entire last month (Duke by 1 to Texas Tech on a neutral court).
But a few teams have strengthened their resume by adding quality road wins and by a couple of the undefeated teams becoming "more legit" in a Bayesian sense.
I think the top 5 will be like whiplash for the next month.
We beat #14 Texas Tech and absolutely obliterated #49 NET Baylor on the road and didn't budge.
Yes, but you see, home losses to teams in the 40s are ok and don't really affect your rank. Wins over teams in the 40s are reason to be dropped.
In your opinion, who should Houston have jumped?
E: Getting blocked for this convo is wild.
Gonzaga, for one. They don't have better wins (Alabama and Tech are roughly equal, and Arkansas is a better second win than UCLA or Kentucky), we have equal SOS, and they got absolutely embarrassed by 40 in their loss.
Alabama on a neutral court is a actually a significantly better win than TTU at home, to the point that they’ll show up differently on NCAAT team sheets (the Bama win is Q1A, the TTU win is Q1B).
We still have the better resume by virtue of not getting buttfucked by 40 and having better Q1 wins outside of the top one.
You guys didn’t even get bumped down, you stayed at 10th and even gained votes from last week, basically no one in the top 11 has lost in awhile (besides Michigan)
Who the hell are the 3 clowns that still voted Michigan #1? lmao
They should, at a minimum, have dropped below UConn. It's like this sub, despite watching them struggle against PSU and lose at home to unranked UW, still thinks they are the greatest team of all time.
Broke: Michigan should drop below #4 UConn.
Woke: Michigan should drop below #5 Miami (OH).
I laughed, and then I went and looked at your poll again. Congratulations on almost singlehandedly making sure than Miami (OH) was ranked.
If u/bakonydraco didn't rank Miami OH, they would still be No. 25. That's how powerful [the RedHawks] are.
I can’t tell if you’re saying “That’s how powerful [Miami (OH)] is” or “That’s how powerful [bakonydraco] is” but I support both interpretations!
I’m doing my part!
I'm not even that bothered by being below Michigan still, even though I think we should have moved past them. But to still rank them #1 after almost losing 2 games against not top tier competition is pretty whack.
My actual opinion is that they should have dropped below both UConn and Purdue. To not drop below either is pretty shit. And to still have first place votes (the same number as ISU) shows that some voters are clueless.
Yell at me
https://www.cbbpoll.net/ballots/11/69650b5ac3789fef953f8689
Didn't even think about Clemson or Saint Louis lol, started making this poll 20 minutes before it closed (thanks traffic)
Yeah, we deserved the drop-off. Still think this team is better than last year, but we're in desperate need of a statement win.
A lot of early Saturday entries. Good jorb guys.
I promise that this is not even bias, I have no idea why North Carolina is ranked 15th in this poll. They’re not top 25 in any of KenPom, T-Rank or EvanMiya(outside of the top 30 in two of them). They don’t have a win over any currently ranked team. They lost to the #12 team by 16 and a team that’s ranked 35th by 14. What are we doing lmao
5 of the teams in the 12-20 range of Pomeroy have 4 or 5 losses, and thus bad resume metrics. And then in that same range of WAB the teams are like Clemson, USC, Utah St, and UCF. Teams that have mediocre predictive metrics, major downward spirals, and/or also no real good wins. North Carolina is 16th in T-WAB and 17th in Net WAB and "good enough" in the predictives (23 in NET), so that when factoring in rank inertia there's no one really better to jump ahead of them.
Definitely the hardest part of the poll the last 2-3 weeks.
Yeah, I struggled bad with mine after I got out of the first 11. I ended up treating it as a reset week to try to get rid of any poll inertia that I had
At least Kenpom eventually fully ditches preseason biases because the bball season has enough games.
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Three first place votes for Michigan is funny but disrespectful to Arizona and Iowa State
It is even funnier when you see that one is an Iowa State fan and one is a Vanderbilt fan.
Holy crap Miami (OH) finally got ranked. Unfortunately I didn't rank them myself.
https://www.cbbpoll.net/ballots/11/6964fdebc3789fef953f85b7
Been a long time coming! Absolutely love to see it.
These user polls hate us lol.
You're basically in the exact right place based on resume metrics and Pomeroy.
KPI: 11
SOR: 10
WAB: 11
T-WAB: 11
KenPom: 10
NET: 12
A lot of folks in this subreddit hate us. Always have and always will.
Believe it or not, the world is not in fact out to get and slight Houston men’s basketball.
I know. I did not say the world, I said some of the people in this sub. I see it every year. It’s a non issue in the real world, I was just replying to a fellow Coog flair on the matter
Remember the flood of jackasses saying "welcome to the Big 12" after our first two conference losses? Lmao. We have gone 41-3 in conference play since then (and 1 of those losses was the conference championship.)
This sub has always had a very vocal group of UH haters that started back when we were "overrated" in the AAC.
How could I forget? One of my favorite moments was beating Kansas at Fertitta, winning the title outright after the at game. Then we flooded the sub with “welcome to the b12, Kansas”
Was so funny to see the goalposts move from the Kansas fans that year. "Oh, you only won one season, that's nothing! We've won it a bunch!"
That seemed to stop after we won it a second time, at least.
1 point away from going 20-0 in conference last year. Still can’t believe how good that team was
I kept so many receipts that year. Was glorious. Especially since so many of them were Memphis flairs lol
Honestly if anyone actually hates you it's probably because a bunch of Houston flairs come in here every week to whine about how much everyone hates them
Dang, that’s crazy
I do not hate you guys. It’s more like fear. Houston has been too good for the past few years and your team still scares me this year.
I respect that, but I’m 10x more scared of you guys this year😂
The stars aligned for us to only get y’all at home for 25-26.
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Go outside. Touch it.
But... but..but.. Torvik says!
Dang I thought we would fall further
…I’m not the only one who had BYU in the top five, right?
There’s our favorite Red Hawks 🧐
Lets gooooooo
Duke drops after picking up 2 Q1 wins?? Michigan should be below us at least
Nah this is fine and we’ve had a lot of luck and very narrow wins against teams we were supposed to blow out. I hope this team figures out how to play a really complete two half game with solid defense and offense soon as the pieces are all there.
Vanderbilt #6 holy shit
It’s nice to get some votes.
Arizona getting 66 first place votes while Iowa State only has 3 is wild considering how close the total points are
Somehow, ISU only has as many first-place votes as Michigan, who just lost at home to an unranked team.
It’s an honor to be between the two most exciting teams / stories of the season so far. Nebraska🤝 vandy. Hope both teams keep winning and silence the crowds who have been hesitant or using various excuses to keep them out of top 10
Noah, V6nderbilt?! Well this bodes well for our "official" ranking
MSU's two losses came from teams that have collectively lost 1 game. They were both played close and lost by a total of eight points. Keep sleeping on them.
What is Missouri’s basketball record this year
Wait no, please go back to ignoring us
Belmont getting votes but Murray St isn't? Someone isn't up to date on MVC standings
I don't know why Gonzaga keeps sliding just because they have had some close games in their conference. Seems like most of the in conference games are dog fights.
It doesn't help that all of our best wins also keep losing. I would say our wins over Alabama, Kentucky, UCLA, Arizona St., and Oklahoma all look worse than they did two weeks ago. That combined with our own lackluster performance probably does deserve some drop. I don't see us as quite as good as I did a couple weeks ago.
Thanks. Yeah I see that a little with the algorithms but more with the AP. Agree they haven't looked as sharp as of late, but I always think they are just going to run the table in conference but never that easy. edit: or at least not that simple.
...yeah. I have a degree in stats, I know metrics matter, but surely they shouldn't be this powerful? We should still be 10 at a minimum. Add on the fact that our Wisconsin win now looks way better?
Alright Arizona now it’s your turn to lose so we can get that elusive number one ranking. Don’t worry we will give it right back to you.
I don't understand why Alabama and Florida are still even getting votes with 5 losses. Tennessee too. Miami FL is 14-2...
https://www.cbbpoll.net/ballots/11/69644927c3789fef953f757c
Shook things up a bit to make all of the undefeated power conference teams occupy my top 4 slots.
Your poll as much as anyone's shows the insane grouping of 1 loss teams and just how many of them are still in very serious contention for the top seeds.
Yeah there's definitely not much separation yet between the top 11 or 12 teams from each other yet. Should make for a great final two months until selection Sunday!
I agree that Michigan should be behind Nebraska at this point. (I’m not biased at all)
I know enough about your analyses to not lump you into the "only looked at the final scores, didn't watch the games" group, but I think Purdue played pretty well in both games this week. We were up 20 on Washington at the 10 minute mark of the 2nd and we kept PSU at about a 10pt arms-length for the entirety of the second half. Braden found his scoring while maintaining his elite facilitation output and Cluff and JD are continuing to find their balance.
Major respect to Nebraska for being undefeated to this point, but I don't know if that means they're a better team than we are by default.
After MSU its like 40 teams for 12 spots, tried to go with what I felt where the most deserving.
https://www.cbbpoll.net/ballots/11/69650afcc3789fef953f8686
You seem to be a big fan of saints (Louis, Mary's, John's) to list them all in a row like that.
Is there something more ISU can do to move up over UConn in your opinion?
Every Resume and SOS metric has UConn ahead of ISU and T-Rank (predictive) also has UConn ahead of ISU, I've also had UConn ahead of ISU the entire time in the polls and have not jumped ISU over them because, having watched both teams, I also think UConn is better.
It amazes me that absolutely no-one argues the "undefeated team better" thing for any of the other teams on my poll such as Vandy and Nebraska, it's people just constantly spamming, "Why is Iowa State behind UConn they lost to Arizona !" If UConn loses again, and ISU continues to win I'll jump ISU over them, if ISU takes a definitive advantage in the resume metrics without UConn losing I'll probably jump them over UConn, or if the next time I watch ISU play I'm so blown away by them I think they're better than UConn I'll consider jumping them, until then poll stays as is and I don't think this is a very controversial ranking at all.
Appreciate the thoughtfulness of your response and your rationale. Some of the metrics love UConn for sure, and their SOS has been elite. Although the T-Rank has ISU ahead of UConn if you take out the pre-season inputs (set the start date to November 2nd instead of November 1st).
And for the record, I didn't say "undefeated team must be better" I said "is there something more ISU can do to move up?"
Fair if you check the weekly updates their is someone asking about the ISU under UConn ranking every single poll, so at a certain point the responses start to blend together
Someone argue why Georgia is still ranked but SMU and UCF aren’t, wanna hear real arguments