I HATE LOGBAIT I HATE LOGBAIT I HATE LOGBAIT I HATE LOGBAIT I HATE LOGBAIT I HATE LOGBAIT I HATE LOGBAIT I HATE LOGBAIT I HATE LOGBAIT I HATE LOGBAIT I HATE LOGBAIT I HATE LOGBAIT
I mean, it’s not exactly difficult to put a card on the exact right tile if you know which one it needs to be on, and from my understanding mini pekka needs to always be on the same tile independent of where the hog is.
When they finally nerfed all evos so FC and archers died to arrows, at the time dart goblin, evo bomber, princess and other log bait cards were also meta, so arrows were used a ton to counter them (surpassing log mainly because of the evos)
so supercells response was nerfing arrows like 3 times in a row lmao
Barb barrel surging specifically to counter logbait makes no sense. Log is better against logbait than barb barrel. Arrows is better too. Plus tons of other cards that aren’t barb barrel.
The reason it doesn't make sense now is because it surged when evo ghost released because barb barrel is a +1 trade against ghost that also helps to counter hyper bait which ghost was being played in. Then they both got nerfed and now hyperbait is being played with skeleton king, so it doesn't make sense anymore.
This happened with Guards a few patches back. Boss Bandit (and Prince) were dominating the meta, so people started playing Guards. Then Guards were nerfed :D
I’ve definitely been feeling this recently. There’s too many 1-2 elixir cards that can completely handle entire pushes and would require lightning fast responses from the opponents spells or else the push/counterpush is dead
i mean also the 1 elixirs. there is no situation where an ice spirit doenst provide value and the fact it can help sus bush land more bits doesnt help either
Ice spirit and skeletons are fine in tons of decks without being overbearing
What makes hyperbait so strong is that fact that it is impossible to stop the damage without overspending on elixir, which lets them wear you down over time without recourse
That isn't the fault of skeletons or ice spirit, it's the bait cards themselves being too powerful for the cost
true but the 1 elixirs and other cheap cycle bs like cannon being incredibly strong defensively and assisting cards like sus bush or wall breakers a lot doesnt help either
I think we’re missing the point, barb barrel is highly used BECAUSE the other cards in the meme are good and it counters them. supercell should nerf the logbait cards and barb barrel usage will go down, but they can make more money off of them.
No? Log would be the perfect counter to all of these cards except firecracker barb barrel doesnt even do that well against dart goblin, princess and firecracker since they don't die to the initial barb barrel damage. The reason barb barrel is so good is because the extra barb is so good at defending cheap tank cards and strong splash cards in the back like wizard/witch all while being able to kill the small swarms. Whereas it also works at kiting solo air troops so its just very versatile but it doesn't work too well against princess and firecracker since the barb can be blocked
not many bad players use barb barrel either. This is UC stats we're talking about where log is usually at least level 15-16 especially since it used to be one of the most overpowered cards.
More so, they aren't as bad if left unattended unlike the rest. They deal 500 or so dmg, die, and that's it. Their evo can be annoying, but it can be baited with a building
then you tried wrong. I have been playing my barb barell 1 level under the max cap for months. Even after the slight dmg nerf. it kills goblins 1 lvl above.
It's unfortunate that basically, only hyperbait is used nowadays compared to other bait decks that are less annoying and less spammy. Balance changes tried to deal with it by nerfing some cards, but the nerfs clearly weren't significant enough. And I love goblin barrel, but that card has been below average for a long time now.
This evening 10970 , one away from the 11k an the incredibly beautiful matchmaking decides to give me 3 consecutive bait decks( all the same knght-infernk tower version). Gg
Usally im playing some kind of beatdown deck if i ignore dart gob. Cuz i can sacrifice 800 damage in exchange fot a plus 3 trade and not wasting my small spell.
as of today log has a 23% usage rate and barb barrel has a 22% usage rate i know thats not a big difference but still, log is the most used spell in the game
I think it needs another tiny nerf. It’s not about countering “meta cards”, it’s the fact that barb barrel gives so much more value than log on defense. Spawning a barb can result in great positive trades that log just can’t compete with.
For instance, it can full counter ghost, musk, exe, wizard, etc etc. The list goes on and on. Then there’s log. It just can’t compete right now.
"what? logbait is strong causing barb barrel to become popular as a counter? we better nerf barb barrel, theres too many people using it!!!"
^i can see this genuinely being their logic.
Oh certainly that they do. When "off-meta" cards suddenly get more popular. They nerf it for an uneccesary reason
Meanwhile there are some cards that need an obvious nerf. Yet Supercell ignores doing so
Hog rider, though imo it only just needs a first-hit nerf
That would be silly considering hog rider doesn’t get a charge or anything
Yeah but it always gets chip without overspending or a building.
It's first hit speed us faster than its hit speed
It doesn’t ALWAYS get a first hit, a well-placed mini pekka, skarmy or cannon all defend hog rider with zero tower damage.
Any competent player has log or zap ready for skarmy and yeah mini pekka can work but you shouldn't be punished for being one tile off with it
I mean, it’s not exactly difficult to put a card on the exact right tile if you know which one it needs to be on, and from my understanding mini pekka needs to always be on the same tile independent of where the hog is.
But not everyone runs those cards
Those were just the first 3 I thought of. Pretty much any defensive building will also shut down a hog rider as well.
And i pointed that out already
Okay? They said not everyone runs those cards, but if you don’t have a building in your deck you can’t really complain about hog rider.
And they've done it before.
When they finally nerfed all evos so FC and archers died to arrows, at the time dart goblin, evo bomber, princess and other log bait cards were also meta, so arrows were used a ton to counter them (surpassing log mainly because of the evos)
so supercells response was nerfing arrows like 3 times in a row lmao
Barb barrel surging specifically to counter logbait makes no sense. Log is better against logbait than barb barrel. Arrows is better too. Plus tons of other cards that aren’t barb barrel.
The reason it doesn't make sense now is because it surged when evo ghost released because barb barrel is a +1 trade against ghost that also helps to counter hyper bait which ghost was being played in. Then they both got nerfed and now hyperbait is being played with skeleton king, so it doesn't make sense anymore.
This happened with Guards a few patches back. Boss Bandit (and Prince) were dominating the meta, so people started playing Guards. Then Guards were nerfed :D
Barb barrel isn't a logbait counter though. Log is. Hence why its log bait and not barb barrel bait
The problem is one elixir cards provide too much value.
I’ve definitely been feeling this recently. There’s too many 1-2 elixir cards that can completely handle entire pushes and would require lightning fast responses from the opponents spells or else the push/counterpush is dead
as a Ram player, i dread all the spirits lmao
Only when they're used in certain situations
hyperbait would like to disagree.
The problem with hyperbait is dart goblin, skeleton barrel, and wallbreakers, not the 1 elixir cards
i mean also the 1 elixirs. there is no situation where an ice spirit doenst provide value and the fact it can help sus bush land more bits doesnt help either
Ice spirit and skeletons are fine in tons of decks without being overbearing
What makes hyperbait so strong is that fact that it is impossible to stop the damage without overspending on elixir, which lets them wear you down over time without recourse
That isn't the fault of skeletons or ice spirit, it's the bait cards themselves being too powerful for the cost
true but the 1 elixirs and other cheap cycle bs like cannon being incredibly strong defensively and assisting cards like sus bush or wall breakers a lot doesnt help either
fire spirit is super annoying it does a fireball worth of damage
bro larry is always like the most used troop in CR after whatever the current moneygrab is (rn heroic minipekka), like all the time
Wall breakers dealing damage more than a rocket is diabolical and its just a 2 elixir card .....just keep on spamming
No hate to Miner WB. But seeing the Miner tank for the WB is just an annoying interaction
Alr bro I'm mad now. I'm gonna throw in a magic archer tornado in this combo just to be mroe annoying
I unironically use a deck with those 4 cards 😭
and bush does more damage than 3 rockets so there's that
I think we’re missing the point, barb barrel is highly used BECAUSE the other cards in the meme are good and it counters them. supercell should nerf the logbait cards and barb barrel usage will go down, but they can make more money off of them.
No? Log would be the perfect counter to all of these cards except firecracker barb barrel doesnt even do that well against dart goblin, princess and firecracker since they don't die to the initial barb barrel damage. The reason barb barrel is so good is because the extra barb is so good at defending cheap tank cards and strong splash cards in the back like wizard/witch all while being able to kill the small swarms. Whereas it also works at kiting solo air troops so its just very versatile but it doesn't work too well against princess and firecracker since the barb can be blocked
Barb barrel isnt a legendary
not many bad players use barb barrel either. This is UC stats we're talking about where log is usually at least level 15-16 especially since it used to be one of the most overpowered cards.
It's likely being used in tandem with log
No one is using log and barb barrel in the same deck
It's also popular because Supercell nerfed every other small spell
Barb barrel is great on defence
So?
taking you days and days to come up with a comeback how slow are you LOOOOOOOOOL
If I were you, I'd check on your mother, I hope nothing happened to her
Crazy comment thread 😭
Death to logbait, must unfun decks ever
Barb barrel is genuinely fine.
All of the cards above, except for wall breakers, are on a one way trip to Haga
WALLBREAKERS ARE FINE??????????????????
trippin
More so, they aren't as bad if left unattended unlike the rest. They deal 500 or so dmg, die, and that's it. Their evo can be annoying, but it can be baited with a building
Which is a negative elixir trade??
Pretty much any counter to it is a negative elixir trade. maybe you could use evo zap and dagger duchess to stop it tho
you have to be trolling
You playing the game dawg?
He said firecracker
Haga?
As in the place where people go to be judged for war crimes
do you mean the Hauge?
Seems so. I spelled it the way it is in my language
It is Hague in American (and maybe other?) English.
ooh i see, thanks
no, wall breakers too, especially the evo
It doesn't kill goblins at 1 level gap
it does. a lvl 15 barb barrel would kill lvl 16 goblins
It doesn't, I tried
then you tried wrong. I have been playing my barb barell 1 level under the max cap for months. Even after the slight dmg nerf. it kills goblins 1 lvl above.
Except for wall breakers? Why?
I mean the top card are the reason why the bottom ones are used
So much so, that if you play with over leveled top cards, 90% of people would just give up the game
Guys with moustaches are universally hated these days
It would be like if all the cards that die to Fireball got buffed and then they nerfed Fireball because it was "too effective"
Barb Barrel is like one of the best defensive spells in the game tho
Wait till bro hears about Hyberbait
It's unfortunate that basically, only hyperbait is used nowadays compared to other bait decks that are less annoying and less spammy. Balance changes tried to deal with it by nerfing some cards, but the nerfs clearly weren't significant enough. And I love goblin barrel, but that card has been below average for a long time now.
Man you guys have no idea about competitive balancing vs casual balancing
😂
Royal recruits needs a nerf too
i have more of a problem with the sus bush compared to these, delete that card
Yeah, cards with more range than a musketeer or smth. need high deploy times
As I golem player, I absolutely steamroll low hp cards
i mean mo light did warn the clash devs
I don't get it.
Their balance changes are all decided by AI I swear
This evening 10970 , one away from the 11k an the incredibly beautiful matchmaking decides to give me 3 consecutive bait decks( all the same knght-infernk tower version). Gg
princess at the bridge is the most no skill play ever
Literally a skill issue
They did this with lightning too when evo witch released actual lobotomies
My lvl 14 barb barrel can't kill level 16 goblins I lose every goblin barrel matchup
My 10 IQ opponent spams dart goblin from the bridge and it hits an UNREAL damage for 3 elixirs
“Rich get richer, poor get poorer” ahh logic
This. Supercell just keeps on nerfing miner espirit and log while others like bb keep dodging them somehow
Today's dating game
I just ignore firecracker and dart gob unless im playing miner control
Ignoring dart gob is like 800 damage tho, thats crazy
Usally im playing some kind of beatdown deck if i ignore dart gob. Cuz i can sacrifice 800 damage in exchange fot a plus 3 trade and not wasting my small spell.
This guy uses towers as a resource like the game should be played
Dart gob does more than a rockets worth of damage
dart gob be shooting an ak47
Guys I have a feeling that OP hates logbait, not sure tho
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You mean 12 in a row...all this game is is log bait or hog spam
Firecracker does not need quick reaction nor precision
Take the arrows out your deck
When they are going to nerf miner, Miner rocket, miner poison? He is too broken
?? Barb barrel is used on defence and is the most used spell in the game
Almost like it's because most of the meta cards are countered by it and log has been nerfed to hell and back.
What meta cards?
Hero wizard? Hero mini P? Hero Musk? Hero Giant? Her Knight? Mortar? Evo skarmy? evo Royal ghost? Evo pigs?
Mortar, skeleton barrel, wallbreakers, evo witch, dart goblin, base ghost, evo skarmy, basically any medium hp ranged unit.
kid named log:
Barb barrel is the most used spell in the game.
at least in UC last time I checked
as of today log has a 23% usage rate and barb barrel has a 22% usage rate i know thats not a big difference but still, log is the most used spell in the game
I am talking before the nerfs. The rates are now showing after the effect of nerfs.
It was the most used spell in the game when it was nerfed
I think it needs another tiny nerf. It’s not about countering “meta cards”, it’s the fact that barb barrel gives so much more value than log on defense. Spawning a barb can result in great positive trades that log just can’t compete with.
For instance, it can full counter ghost, musk, exe, wizard, etc etc. The list goes on and on. Then there’s log. It just can’t compete right now.
There is downsides you can’t kill princess, dart and its really easy to protect them from the barb. Also can’t be as effective on offence like log.