I'm talking about vibrating your tongue rapidly against the inside of your mouth to create that "motor" sound, also known as rolling your R's.

It's so weird. Your tongue literally becomes a rattlesnake tail. And even stranger is we can do it instinctively just by doing a super vague "push" thingy with our tongues and it sorta just happens- (EDIT: I was wrong it's actually blowing air that does it). If you've never seen your tongue when you do that I highly recommend looking in the mirror.

Also I understand it is crucial for various languages across the world, but I can't fathom a reason for WHY we can do it from an evolution standpoint.

edit2: I'm also learning not everyone is capable of doing it :( sorry to those people

  • There's no reason we should be able to do a kickflip, either. And yet, here we are.

    I think this is actually the answer. Our bodies evolved to do certain things but we use our powerful brains to use our bodies in other ways. In the words of Ed Harris in Apollo 23, "I don't care about what it was designed to do, I care about what it can do."

    Edit: I'm aware of the typo but I'm leaving it for the jokes

    The seventh secret lunar mission

    To quote Daniel Day Lewis in Gangs of Boston, "Whoopsie daisy!"

    I love that quote. It's in perfect alignment with how I sardonically use cutesy goofy phrases for the facade for things much more substantial/serious/dangerous. If you don't know I'm being facetious then I come off as ridiculous. But if you know what I'm really about and read between the lines, then it's this perfect interesting balance of reading through the facade and tasting the bitterness underneath. It's like tasting notes of whiskey in there.

    Guy operating Chernobyl before the meltdown; "Whoopsie Daisy!"

    You're close, but it was Gangs of New York.

    Source: It's my all time favorite movie.

    Lol good catch

    Awesome reference!

    Lmfao love this perspective

    Exactly. Just because something evolved one way doesn't mean that's all it's capable now.

    Here you are. I would be found in the emergency rrroom

    I'm sorry if I gave you the impression I could personally do a kick flip. I cannot. More of a species capability declaration.

    I can roll my rs quite well, though. It's like a kick flip for my mouth.

    I'm sorry, I must have had a flagrant processing error🙂

    Careful with that. You'll start talking to the voices in the walls, like me. I evolved differently. (Incorrectly)

    Oh dear, Wall-Voices are concerning. Pretend you don't hear them.

    I also enjoy feeling proud of things "my species" can do, that I as an individual absolutely cannot do.

    There’s no reason we should be able to do a cartwheel, either. And yet, here we are.

    Um, how else were we supposed to distract the dinosaurs while hunting?

    That is why our caveman ancestors would draw a M on each butt cheek and do naked somersaults, the dinosaurs would be standing there reading WoW.. MoM.. WoW..MoM.. WoW.. MoM.. roll by them and get really confused and that's when the others would strike with the spears.

    Thank you! Geezus, I was beginning to think I was the only who studied anthropology in here.

    And where do you think Nancy Reagan got the idea for D.A.R.E.?

    Dinosaurs. Always. Reading. Exposed butts.

    D.a.r.e.b.

    The butts is silent.

    Good to see someone has their homework.

    dinosaurs however evolved to do kick flips.

    But not to invent the skateboard. Nature is cruel.

  • I'm certain that I have read a book about this, because I'm not smart enough to come up with a plausible theory by my self, but I seem to recall a hypothesis that languages developed at least in part by attempting to mimic sounds from the local naturally occurring sounds, particularly animals.

    This sounds so right. We mimic but also attempt to communicate with other species and early man probably had huge reasons that this was helpful.

    My cat can do it. We call each other this way

    Ok if you read something like this and enjoy stuff like this check out the book WHO ATE THE FIRST OYSTER. Excellent book

    I got the audiobook at the library. The link here I just for reference. Will post in reply

    Makes me think of Inuit and Sakha singing and vocalizations. They're impressive as hell.

    What we call throat-singing? It’s absolutely remarkable.

    I was training myself to roll the "R" as a kid by imitating a machinegun whike playing...

    We are animals, especially before we had developed language.

  • Raise your hand if you are sitting there trilling your tongue. Brownie points if someone in the room is looking you like you’re nuts.

    When I posted I had this mental image flash of hundreds of strangers all over the world sitting there making psycho sounds together in the blue glow of their screens

    Me sitting here attempting and failing again like every other time I've tried. My Spanish teachers were always mad that I didn't roll my Rs when speaking, but I've never been able to.

    🙋🏻‍♀️ My sister was like, "WTF are you doing??"

    My husbands eyes shot open and he looked at me like wtf is wrong with you. (He was asleep)

    In the bathroom, the only person looking at me is my cat 🤣

    Someone is always looking at me like I'm nuts, being fabulously weird is my permanent state of being.

  • My wife and my son cannot do it, but I can. When my son tries, he just raspberries instead.

    it is very unnatural if you dont learn it as a child, you have to put your tongue in this slope in the roof of your mouth behind your teeth called the alveolar bridge, once there, it has to be somewhat relaxed, and you blow air down the center of your mouth like when you pronounce a D, the air will push your tongue and make it vibrate by itself

    i never learned how to do it as a child, and took me until i was 19 to learn properly, mostly because no one really tells you how to in an easy to understand way, maybe this will help a little if they ever want to learn how to do the hard R sound, it's useful in ''emergency'' situations where you need the other person to understand what you said and you dont have a sinonym in mind

    say the "T" in truck really hard. You will produce a brief trill (like 0.1 seconds). Keep doing this, and try to hold the trill longer. You will be trilling within a few minutes and will never forget.

    Holy crap this worked! THANK YOU!!!!!!!!! Best advice ever. I’ve been trying to learn this for decades!

    Wait a minute. Every time it has been explained to me, they say to curl your tongue up to that part of the mouth. Have I just been curling my tongue the wrong way?!!? Imma go take a shower and practice. Maybe today is the day!!! I’m 44 years old with a perfectly absurd Sunday mission

    Note, this won't work for people like me whose dialect sounds more like "chruck."

    You'll have to figure out how to crisp up the T first, then enunciate the consonants.

    I can do T's but cannot switch to an R-r-r sound.

    This fucking worked holy shit

    I cannot trill my tongue either

    Same. I’ve been actively trying for 30 years, the last 2 of which I’ve practiced daily. Nothing.

    Same! I took Spanish classes in school from kindergarten through 12th grade and was the only person in my classes who couldn’t do it. I had Spanish teachers who would mark me down because of it. I feel like I have read and tried all of the “tricks” to learn to do it and it has just never happened for me. It makes me wonder if it’s just impossible for some people. I keep trying every day though!

    Certain tongue movements are passed down by a series of genes and cannot be done if you dont have them, like rolling your tongue i wouldnt be surprised if trilling was one

    I took 2 years of Spanish in highschool and I could never do it either

    There's a tongue twister in Spanish that was made into a song in the 50s(?) that my Venezuelan grandmother had me learn when I was young. I still can recite the tongue twister, but never learned to speak Spanish.

    You can Google it, if you want... "Erre con erre cigarro..." is how it starts.

    I took Spanish in Jr High and me and another guy would roll our Rs so obnoxiously that the teacher would get mad.

    "Yo soy Rrrrrrroberrrrrrrto"

    I can only do it if it's obnoxious and drawn out. I can't drop one causally in conversation. Takes me too long to get my tongue started lol!

    girl i took seven years and i still can’t do it 💔

    So my native language is Russian, and we have the "vibrating r" as the default "r" sound, so people learn it when they are very small kids. But some kids are still unable to pronounce it naturally and instead opt for an "english"-sounding softer "r". This makes their speech a bit slurred and is considered a mild speech defect. Because of this, at least when I was a kid myself, kindergartens were visited by speech therapists, and they checked if all of the kids were pronouncing "r" correctly. If you couldn't make the vibrating sound, the doctor trained you by putting a kind of a resin stick into your mouth and holding your tongue in the right position. Some people still can't make the sound as adults though, they speak perfectly fine, it just sounds kinda like a foreign accent

    Meanwhile you native English speakers have this awful "th" sound 🥲 I speak English for god knows how many years, and I still fuck it up consistently...

    as in "that," or softer like "thin,"

    Mostly as in "that", but tbh both are tricky. My mouth automatically tries to reduce them to "t", "d" or "f" lol

    My language also has the default rolling r, and I remember some kids having difficulty with them. Very uncommon though, to hear an adult still having difficulties (I only remember one adult native I've come across and I'm middle aged). I guess they were all directed to speech therapists as kids. 😅

    Can they or you roll their tongue? Two types of people apparently, those who can and those who can’t. Suspect group of early hominids had this capacity due to mimicking some animal only present in their context.

    My husband can’t either. My daughter can do it but mostly if it is required in a word (we use that sound in my birth language). Me and my son can roll our r’s till the cows come home. It amuses my husband to no end.

    He also can’t whistle. I wonder if there’s any correlation.

    I can’t trill my tongue. My wife is Mexican. I’m trying to learn Spanish (I’m not very bright) and that’s the one thing that really sucks, it’s so inherent in the language. I didn’t learn to whistle till I was in college (not bright) so hopefully I can teach myself this.

    Please stop disqualifying your Self by making statements like 'I'm not very bright'. You are trying to learn a new language. You are forging new pathways in your brain and learning new skills. An interest in learning puts you far beyond 'Not Very Bright'. You are most excellent. Give yourself a hug and please be more gentle with You xx

    People who do this are usually just fishing for reassurance/compliments, most people do it subconsciously. Maybe they don’t get enough in their day to day life.

    I'm glad they got some here, then.

    say the T in truck really hard. You will briefly produce a trill. Now you just keep doing this, trying to prolong the trill. Boom less than ten minutes you've got it for life.

    This just makes a T sound when I do it…

    The word though! All at once, the jump from T to R is what creates it! Unless you’re telling me that you pronounce truck as tuck, then you can do it

    I can't either but my mom could and sister can. It makes me sad because I'm learning Dutch and they use it for Rs.

    I've lived in Puerto Rico for almost a decade, and I still cannot roll my R's. I think it's something to do with the shape of the palate?

    he just raspberries instead

    that's called linguolabial trill

    i can only do it in a sentence, ive never had the ability to do it in isolation. took me years to learn how to whistle too and i can only whistle out a slightly off center hole between my lips and not the middle. i had a speech impediment growing up and still mumble and completely miss letters. some of us just weren't born to speak.

    We always joke my daughter takes after me and my son takes after my wife. Then last week, I was teaching my kids how to say words in different languages, we discovered my daughter and I can roll our Rs and my wife and son cannot.

  • Tongue trills feel wild because we didn’t evolve to do them they’re a side effect. A rolled R isn’t rapid muscle movement; it’s aerodynamic vibration. You hold your tongue in a barely stable position, push air, and physics takes over, like vocal cords buzzing. Evolution selected for a tongue with extreme flexibility, fine motor control, and precise airflow for speech. Once you have that setup, trills become possible whether they’re “useful” or not. Languages later adopted the sound because it’s distinct and stable, not because it was biologically intended. You set the conditions; the air does the work.

    Which probably explains why some people can roll their R's and some cannot. Same with rolling your tongue into a taco/tube.

    People from rolling-R countries who can' roll their Rs by like 12yo go to speech therapy because outside actual deformities, it's 100% a skill issue. If you're learning Spanish as a second language and can't roll your Rs, it's' almost never because you physically can't. It's because no one has taught you correctly, so it's a skill issue.

    Rolling your Rs is basic physics. It's like saying "some people just can't pronounce an S." Yes. That group is quite small, and it's due to deformity. If you can't do it, it's almost invariably a skill issue.

    most people just tell you to vibrate your tongue, when physically that is not what you have to do at all, but then again, most people dont really understand how it happens

    We actually know the genes for Taco tongue, folding the tongue back and cork screwing it, but I'm not sure about the "trill"

    I worked with someone who could not roll her Rs until it was discovered she had a tongue tie, which was then fixed. So people with an undiagnosed tongue tie can become unable to roll Rs.

    I was going to mention this. I was tongue-tied until I was 21, then got it released and can roll my r's slightly now, when I pretty much couldn't at all before.

    I can't do either. My whole dad's side of the family can roll their tongue, then there's me looking like an idiot when I try

    They aren't a side effect. It's inherent. Have you ever listened to monkeys, birds, or any animals in the wild? How do you think cats purr or growl? It's all air and vibration. Blow air through your throat = loud vibrations. It's a top communication and intimidation strategy.

    Thank you. I don’t know how anyone can do it and conclude it’s rapid muscle movement.

    Also, if it helps anyone, I taught my daughter how to do it (when she couldn’t previously) by explaining that same aerodynamic vibration when we “raspberry” with our lips (which most people seem to be able to do)—only instead of lips let the air move the tongue up and down. She practiced for about 2 minutes every day for a week and got it.

  • Voice teacher here. It’s not that we push the muscle, it’s about relaxing the muscle and using air to vibrate the tongue the same way you vibrate a reed or any other thing that makes noise.

    Thank you for clarifying!

  • If it makes you feel any better I can’t do it

    I can't do the tongue taco/roll thingy

    I can trill, make tacos, and clovers.

    I don't think I've ever shown anyone this, but I can pull the top of my tongue back inside itself so it looks like my tongue has its own mouth lol

    A diagram would help me understand cuz I’m having a hard time imagining lol

    the Leonardo da Vinci of tongue stuff

    Leonardo Da Vinci, famously known for being great with women.

    I feel dumb as hell right now, I thought taco tongue was your way of saying rolling your r's

  • The amount of people laying in bed right now, trilling, is definitely more than one.

    15 people in the thread currently i bet at least 4 are trying it

    It's 5pm on Sunday, why would I be in bed? All you people living in the past, still in bed, probably cold too

    It was 3am in a Sunday morning where I was when I posted that.

  • Not everyone has the ability to "trill"

  • it really is weird and what's also weird is i forget how to do it and i fail over and over and then suddenly remember in certain contexts and i can do it

  • In singing we had to do that but while singing. Can you do it unendingly and while singing? It really works well for preparation to sing and you can do it kinda quietly. Just singing scales

  • I suspect it's just a product of language development and music ceremonies. And it's very handy as a warning sound.

    I do it as my main vocal stim. It's actually soothing.

  • I started French immersion and rolling my Rs when I was four. Came pretty easily. Unfortunately my kids could not take French immersion but started basic French in gr 5 and I cannot teach them to roll their Rs for the life of them.

  • As a Latina with a last name that requires the rolled R, but who hasn't ONCE in her life been able to roll her Rs- I am very, extremely, irrationally jealous of every non-Latino who learns to do it in an afternoon as an adult.

    I can't. I just physically can't do it. Which sucks even more because then people always assume I'm ashamed of my last name and that's why I "Americanize" the pronunciation of it and any other double-R words. I am not ashamed, I just cannot do it. 😭

  •  we can do it instinctively just by doing a super vague "push" thingy with our tongues and it sorta just happens

    wish I could relate 🙃

  • Speak for yourself, I can’t do it at all.

  • I for one can’t do one :(

  • Not everyone can do it, which is so interesting.

  • I’ve never been able to roll my Rs and my Spanish teacher always gave me a hard time for that if anyone has any tips or tricks I still would like to know how to do this damn thing

  • i cant do it and ive tried so many times

  • Also strange that not everyone can do it.

  • I can’t do it.

  • Never could . But the punchy thing in my throat can make that sound and I can talk while doing it consistently. Sounds like I’m underwater . Heard others can’t

  • I cannot and have never been able to make that sound.

  • I've never been able to do it. One time when I was drunk I figured it out and was rolling my r's like crazy. Woke up the next day and couldn't do it anymore.

  • As someone who couldn’t roll an R to save their life, it’s black magic to me 

  • You should hear me try to trill my tongue. I sound absolutely ridiculous. For some reason, it really bothers me that I can't do this. I'm jealous of you trillers!

  • I've never been able to do it. I've tried my whole life. Everyone around me has always insisted that "everyone can do it" and I just need to learn. No, my tongue is simply not capable of it.

    I can't whistle if it helps

  • I actually can't do it. Drove me nuts in Spanish class.

  • Much to the dismay of both my high school Spanish teacher and my college Spanish teacher, I was never able to roll my r’s.

  • I can't do it, been trying since Spanish class in 9th grade but I just can't roll my R's. Just tried now and still can't do it almost 40 years later

  • I am one of those people who can't do it. Maybe it's a skill issue...

  • Me and my husband can’t do it, nor can most of my family. But my one year old daughter does it for fun constantly! It’s been a mystery to us all lol.

  • In my language (Afrikaans) we use “hard Rs” trilling your tongue as you say. I couldn’t do it when I was young, I had to go to a speech therapist to help me learn it.

    We don't use them in American English at all, although the "Duh" sound is closest. But my speech therapist had me practice them until I could, so the "hard r" benefited me as well.

  • We use those R's in swedish a lot, i cant do it though so i learned how to do the french R instead which is in the back of your throat instead lol.

  • I am one of the peoplr that can"t do that. I studied Spanish in high school and college; trilling the tongue is part of the Spanish language, but I was never able to do it.

  • I can’t!!! I think it’s because I have a tongue tie. I’m jealous of everyone who can and grateful I speak a language that doesn’t require it.

  • Your tongue does not literally become a rattlesnake tail, nor is it insane. It’s also not instinctive - it’s a learned lingual articulation, and equal to any others you use. 

    I recommend the writing of David Crystal if you find this sort of thing interesting. 

  • I’ve never been able to do it and it makes me so sad.

  • How about "click" languages? Modern humans have vocal cords, what advantage does clicking have?

  • But what is the reason you have that we shouldn't be able to do it? Evolution is over such a long period of time. Who knows what we might have used it for in the past.

  • Ironically enough my tongue can't do that 😆😆

  • Hold up, it's the tongue that's used to do that? I thought it was done in the throat or vocal cords.

  • Isn't it because we evolved to be able to mimic almost any animal for hunting reasons? We aren't as good as some birds but we can make sounds so similar to these animals that we confuse them/call them over/rage bait them.

    Off topic but I new a person who could make the perry the platapus sound. Blew my mind

  • That sound is used in lots of languages. It’s not that mystical for non-English speakers.

  • There's no reason we should be conscious either yet someone/thing somewhere decided to go ahead and make us conscious

    I dunno how I feel about that, I get that we can develop and grow and stuff but it also feels a bit like a dick move.

  • My tongue does not literally become a rattlesnake tail.

  • right?? it is basically built-in beatboxing hardware and we never question it..

    your tongue just decides to become a vibrating engine on command, no training, no instruction manual. evolution really said “you might need this someday” and refused to elaborate..

  • I can't do this. My evolution missed that class.

  • ... I do not roll my r with air? what? I can close off my throat and trill, I just did it for most of this sentence.

  • Ask your wife if it’s a necessary human ability

  • Rolling R's and languages that use them are very cool.

    Weak-ass English soft "r" is weak and lame, it has no character to it.

  • I cannot do a tongue roll for Rs.
    I CAN make a similar trilling noise in the back of my throat 😅

  • "Your tongue literally becomes a rattlesnake tail. "

    No, it does not literally become anything except a tongue.

    someone woke up on the wrong side of the bed

  • Strange, I always thought 'rolling your Rs' meant pronouncing them like how Americans pronounce them. Are you sure trilling is the same as rolling Rs? Because I've always known them to be opposites.

    I'm Indian btw, we don't roll our Rs, we always trill.

    Americans don't roll their R's, if people in America talk about rolling R's they are most likely talking about the Spanish language

    This American loves to listen to Indian-accented English. It’s my favorite international accent. Also love Irish and Swedish.

  • Pine warbler and swamp hen hunters use this technique to devastating effect.

  • Lol I just had to try to see if I could do it!

  • Flutter tonguing is essential for jazz flute, so I’m glad I can do it.

  • And why do men have nipples?  Shouldn't they have been removed through evolution

  • It's always fun to see the face of native speakers when confronted with sounds alien to their language. I like to offer native English speakers the spanish tongue twister "¿Cuántos robles roería un roedor si los roedores royeran robles?", which is full of that sound and it's extremely easy for Spanish speakers to say, but oh boy, if you are not accustomed to it...

    What amazes me is that babies learn all the relevant sounds of their mother tonge quite fast and easily, and disregard the rest, so when you grow up it's really hard to learn them if you suddenly need them. I gave up on French, I just couldn't get even close.

  • Since we can all do it, what is so incredible about it?

  • I don't remember learning how to do it, I've just known as long as I can remember. And I wouldn't be able to explain how to do it.

  • I can't fathom a reason for WHY we can do it from an evolution standpoint.

    Because there's no negative pressure pushing it out of the genre pool. 

  • Huh? You hold your tongue against the roof of your mouth so air pressure builds behind it, and when the air pushes through, the tongue tip passively vibrates. Like a flag in the wind. You’re not actively shaking your tongue; you’re just setting the position and airflow, and the vibration sustains itself. It’s not evolution at all.. we do it naturally when we sneeze.

  • If your French you roll your R's from the back of your throat, like your clearing phlegm.

    Theres also like 4 or 5 different phonetic "clicks" that are used in a bunch of different languages.

  • I suspect stemmed from times where we'd have to warn off predators like showing your teeth. As we have evolved we've lost alot of of our animal instincts that we possessed to keep us alive. Even animals have different abilities so not surprising some humans are able to manage things others are not. And some humans can trill and others can't.

  • Bird calls = more successful hunting

  • If I concentrate, I can trill with the tip of my tongue and the middle of my tongue -- which is ironic, since I only picked it up from listening to my two brothers who both play flute discussing trill techniques. I can do double glottal stops too, and that's also ironic because I learned that to speak farsi, but my ability to retain foreign languages is nil. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

  • I can’t do it. Of German and Scandinavian heritage if it matters.

  • I can do a gargle/roll thing that lets me do a dove impression or like a jetsons space car noise and I can never tell for sure if that’s the same or not. It can make that noise on its own but is clunky in words, and I don’t know if that’s because it’s wrong or because I haven’t practiced it that way.

  • I taught myself how to do it in college by saying Prussia.

  • It is thus that we might have Xena.

    I have spoken.

  • Not literally a rattlesnake tail. Metaphorically one though, yes

  • Kids make animal noises in late elementary school/middle school instinctively, I think: for hunting and whatnot. Same for whistling and trills

  • Need it for certain animal calls.

  • The only reason I learned how to do it as a kid was because I had Guinea pigs and they purred so that was our love language.

  • Hilariously trying to explain it my 7 year old with no real explanation for why I can, just had me cracking up so hard every time he couldn’t do it and I said it’s easy dude you just grrrrrrrrrt

  • If you’ve ever seen the edge of a flag flap in the wind, you’d know it’s not that strange that we can mimic that with wind on our tongue

  • I went to a Spanish immersion elementary school in the US, and because I started speaking Spanish at like 5, I could do it. I was always so shocked that nobody in my white family besides me and my sister could do it. As I grew up and didn’t continue speaking Spanish after elementary school, I could no longer do it. I still can’t anymore. Very disappointing :(

  • I physically cannot roll my R’s. My tongue just does not move like that. But I know in Spanish that the difference between a rolled and not rolled R can be the difference between a normal conversation and an insult, or just nonsense gibberish if the wrong R is used. If I ever find myself needed to converse in Spanish I’m going to have to resort to vocalizing “er er” whenever I need to say a “rr” word. I know it will be wrong, but I hope I can explain well enough why if it comes to that.

  • I can't do it. :(

  • It's just an interesting accident of design and physics. You've got a highly flexible organ that has been selected for an ability to alter airflow through the oral cavity to produce a variety of effects and one of those configurations is that cyclic oscillation of the tongue tip caused by partial obstruction against roof of mouth and teeth causing the pressure buildup to flick it down and elastic recoil of the tongue muscle flipping it back to immediately repeat unless you change the tongue tension or position. And depending on whether it's voiced or unvoiced, you get either the rolling 'R' or a trilling 'T' sound.

    It's no more unusual than the various clicks used in Khoisan, Xhosa and other African languages. Once we evolved the basic anatomy for speech it created a large capacity for varied sounds and pretty much all of them ended up as part of a language or dialect at some point. Even whistling - see the Silbo Gomero language of the Canary Islands, for instance.