My first ever accident was getting rear ended by a Ram truck on the highway after a sudden slow down. I safely stopped and didn't hit the person infront of me. Dude behind me was on his phone I guess and rammed right into the back of my car. "I left space! You can't stop like that!"
Maybe I'm just biased because a Ram hit me, because I know shitty drivers drive all kinds of cars, but it really does feel like Ram drivers are bigger dicks then others.
It doesn't help that RAM trucks drivers are also some of the most common DUI drivers every year. If they're not first you can bet that they'll be top three
Used to live in CO. Anytime I was headed to the mountains to snowboard, I made sure to stay way ahead or way behind any TX plates I say. You catch some weather especially going through the Divide..... literally watch them slip and slide everywhere.
These last few years we've had an ice storm or two in DFW every winter. Not bad ones compared to like northern states, but bad enough to ice the roads. And boy howdy, the roads themselves are nowhere near as dangerous as the other drivers. It sure is a fuckin experince.
Until I stumbled upon this comment thread, I didn't even know what coal rolling was or that it even existed. Had to look it up on Google to understand. These morons are who the activists should be going after, not the folks with an SUV.
Activists do go after them lmfao.. there’s a video on YouTube (may have even been or Reddit) of activists getting rolled with coal and the person who did it getting pulled over immediately. Coal roller didn’t see the cop in the opposite lane and the cop flipped around and got him. Very satisfying video.
It’s might’ve been a runaway diesel the way it was rolling coal almost the entire time. Runaway diesel is when the motor is stuck at full throttle and there’s basically nothing you can do to stop it. Either that or dudes a jackass, idk why someone would willingly drive off a mountain side in the snow like that otherwise
My guess, if he wasn’t trying to pass for god knows what reason, is he may have been losing traction and hitting the gas in an effort to keep going up instead of feathering it. Spins out, and freaks out and keeps the lead foot on instead of hitting brakes.
Turning the ignition to off will close the EGR valve flap that shits air off to a diesel engine (In most modern diesels), so you can stop a runaway diesel that way. Or you shift to neutral, come to a stop, and then dump the clutch with your foot on the brakes to stop the engine.
It’s been several years, so it’s foggy. I think there were 6 people total between the 2 vehicles and (I think) all survived. They all blend together after a while.
No. At that point, it’s running off the oil, instead of the fuel. Only way for it to stop would be to block the intake and suffocate it of air, or wait until there’s no oil left to burn. The latter option would result in the motor blowing up though. Runaways are rare but they do happen
Another problem: getting near the engine bay of a runaway diesel trying to explode itself to try to stop it is a good way to get yourself hurt when it blows.
A run away diesel is caused by a turbo failure. The failed turbo allows the engine oil to get sucked into the combustion chamber and keep running, even with no diesel going to the engine. The only way these stop on their own is by running out of oil. There is a chance you can save the engine, by stopping it's flow of oxygen.
Its fairly uncommon today so long as you do basic maintenance on a regular schedule. I have seen it more in fleets when companies start penny pinching and cut maintenance and keep worn gear going.
Not on a runaway diesel in some cases. If it starts pulling oil through it'll burn that up and killing the switch just disables the fuel pump. Well...if it's burning oil that doesn't matter then. It'll rev as high as it can till it grenades once it runs out of oil.
I had a rabbit years ago that would do this. Manual you could put it in gear and stall out the engine and it would generally kill it. But also snapped a driveshaft once....
It's called physics. Unlike gas engines diesel is a closed loop system that depends simply on fuel and air to continue. No electricity, etc.
So if you start drawing a different fuel (like oil...but literally diesel will burn damn near anything given the compression a runaway will generate).... So your choices are to stall it somehow (needs a manual transmission usually) or stop air from getting in. It's why old Detroits folks would keep a floor mat or something else heavy they could slap over the air intake to choke it out.
No. The only way to stop it is to suffocate the engine. Either by blocking off the intake, or dumping CO2 into the intake. Look up a runaway diesel on YouTube, scary stuff. I've had it happen to me, it's very loud and very sudden. You can almost feel each combustion stroke, like a slap on the chest.
When you turn off the engine in a gasoline powered car you turn off the spark. Diesels don't use spark. The engine just compresses the fuel until it explodes.
...can other people not take their automatic out of drive? Tap brake. Press button. Move selector. You are now in neutral. Works while in motion. Are there cars so badly designed that they don't allow that?
How does that stop a runaway diesel engine? It doesn’t. The only ways to stop one are stall it while it’s in gear by dumping the clutch or restricting intake air flow. Putting the transmission in neutral would actually exacerbate the problem
Putting in it neutral means the engine is no longer transmitting power to the wheels. That makes it much less likely that you will crash into someone and send both them and yourself over a cliff.
I work for the fire department that responded to this one. It was a few years ago. I can attest that he parked on his roof in the river about 200 feet below.
I didn't even know they did it intentionally, but I ALWAYS assume these guys have the littlest member in their town so they try to compensate by having these gigantic trucks. This just confirms it.
A coal rolling truck is a diesel truck that has been modified to force excess fuel into the engine without enough air, which causes incomplete combustion and clouds of soot.
Anecdotal, but I have rarely never seen a ram truck that wasnt driven by a huge douchebag. And I live in the south where they're almost always lifted with some instagram sticker on the back.
I'm not sure where the hate is directed here. The road is icy, the slight bend clearly fucked traction and sent him sideways. It fucking happens on icy passes. Sure the black smoke is obnoxious, but has no part in this shit.
Bunch of tropical dwellers thinking they know how to drive like gods on ice.
Can't dodge it - ram it
Too much Ram not enough Dodge
should have dodged when he rammed
Drove his Chevy to the levee
Just download more ram
He downloaded too much. Thst was the problem
Gotta dodge the father to ram the daughter.
Was that meant to be one of those malicious black cloud of obnoxiousness? Low skills.
Gone in a whisp of black fart.
There is a reason why Ram truck drivers have expensive insurance.
My first ever accident was getting rear ended by a Ram truck on the highway after a sudden slow down. I safely stopped and didn't hit the person infront of me. Dude behind me was on his phone I guess and rammed right into the back of my car. "I left space! You can't stop like that!"
Maybe I'm just biased because a Ram hit me, because I know shitty drivers drive all kinds of cars, but it really does feel like Ram drivers are bigger dicks then others.
Smaller, usually...
My shitty old boss drove a ram. He’s in prison for vehicular manslaughter…
It doesn't help that RAM trucks drivers are also some of the most common DUI drivers every year. If they're not first you can bet that they'll be top three
Not really anymore than other trucks.
source; have owned all 3 brands across the last 5 years. Pay less for my 1ton than i do my civic with the same premiums.
RAM 1500 is the number 1 vehicle involved in DUI in the USA
BuT I hAVe FouR wHeEL dRiVe?!?
- Every Texan with a pickup truck on ice.
Used to live in CO. Anytime I was headed to the mountains to snowboard, I made sure to stay way ahead or way behind any TX plates I say. You catch some weather especially going through the Divide..... literally watch them slip and slide everywhere.
You have never seen anything as hilarious and pitiful as Houstonians driving on ice. Myself included. Been there done that 46 years worth.
These last few years we've had an ice storm or two in DFW every winter. Not bad ones compared to like northern states, but bad enough to ice the roads. And boy howdy, the roads themselves are nowhere near as dangerous as the other drivers. It sure is a fuckin experince.
Lived in northern states that snow my whole life only thing that helps on ice is driving slow.
Coal roll dirtbag could have killed someone. Many coal rollers are teenage drivers with a truck bought by mommy and daddy
They are 25 to 50 here.
Everyone loves to blame teenagers, but they are rarely the actual ones.
"Teens broke into my garage." Police arrest a 40 year old a week later.
Thats four teens...
Until I stumbled upon this comment thread, I didn't even know what coal rolling was or that it even existed. Had to look it up on Google to understand. These morons are who the activists should be going after, not the folks with an SUV.
Activists do go after them lmfao.. there’s a video on YouTube (may have even been or Reddit) of activists getting rolled with coal and the person who did it getting pulled over immediately. Coal roller didn’t see the cop in the opposite lane and the cop flipped around and got him. Very satisfying video.
It’s might’ve been a runaway diesel the way it was rolling coal almost the entire time. Runaway diesel is when the motor is stuck at full throttle and there’s basically nothing you can do to stop it. Either that or dudes a jackass, idk why someone would willingly drive off a mountain side in the snow like that otherwise
My guess, if he wasn’t trying to pass for god knows what reason, is he may have been losing traction and hitting the gas in an effort to keep going up instead of feathering it. Spins out, and freaks out and keeps the lead foot on instead of hitting brakes.
That's my bet.
I'm more inclined to think it was from all his weight shifting forward when the nose pitched down and accidentally hitting the accelerator
Well, that’s the breaks, but maybe he was trying to hit the BRAKES!
Exactly, panicking and thinking he’s stomping the brakes when really he’s just flooring the gas. Clearly he isn’t an example of a skilled driver.
Is it not possible to put the transmission into neutral and come to a safe stop while the engine over-revs?
only if you don't panic.
Turning the ignition to off will close the EGR valve flap that shits air off to a diesel engine (In most modern diesels), so you can stop a runaway diesel that way. Or you shift to neutral, come to a stop, and then dump the clutch with your foot on the brakes to stop the engine.
It wasn’t. I work for the fire department that responded on this. HIPPA and all, but alcohol and emotions were the biggest factors in this one.
Alchohol and emotions would explain a lot of the driving I've seen from RAM owners.
You could delete RAM from your sentence and it would still be correct.
Highest number of DUI's of any vehicle
Only because everybody knows they profile rams for it. If they'd stop pulling us over we'd stop getting DUIs
did rhe people in the other car Make it out?
It’s been several years, so it’s foggy. I think there were 6 people total between the 2 vehicles and (I think) all survived. They all blend together after a while.
sorry that's a lot of trauma hope you guys get help
Coal rollin down a mountain
...smokin' indo, sippin' on gin and juice, laid back, with my mind on my money and my money on my mind
Never driven a diesel so honest question. If you experience this could you just shut off the ignition?
No. At that point, it’s running off the oil, instead of the fuel. Only way for it to stop would be to block the intake and suffocate it of air, or wait until there’s no oil left to burn. The latter option would result in the motor blowing up though. Runaways are rare but they do happen
Another problem: getting near the engine bay of a runaway diesel trying to explode itself to try to stop it is a good way to get yourself hurt when it blows.
Thank you. Please accept my poor man's award🏅
What happens if you keep to your lane and hit the brakes?
The torque made by a diesel engine will burn through your brakes in a matter of seconds. Only option is to put it in neutral if you can't shut it off.
A run away diesel is caused by a turbo failure. The failed turbo allows the engine oil to get sucked into the combustion chamber and keep running, even with no diesel going to the engine. The only way these stop on their own is by running out of oil. There is a chance you can save the engine, by stopping it's flow of oxygen.
Its fairly uncommon today so long as you do basic maintenance on a regular schedule. I have seen it more in fleets when companies start penny pinching and cut maintenance and keep worn gear going.
You can't turn off the engine?
Not on a runaway diesel in some cases. If it starts pulling oil through it'll burn that up and killing the switch just disables the fuel pump. Well...if it's burning oil that doesn't matter then. It'll rev as high as it can till it grenades once it runs out of oil.
can’t put it in neutral?
You can, but that won't stop the dieseling.
I had a rabbit years ago that would do this. Manual you could put it in gear and stall out the engine and it would generally kill it. But also snapped a driveshaft once....
You think there would be some emergency covered red button you could slap in case this happened. Is it a common occurrence?
It's called physics. Unlike gas engines diesel is a closed loop system that depends simply on fuel and air to continue. No electricity, etc.
So if you start drawing a different fuel (like oil...but literally diesel will burn damn near anything given the compression a runaway will generate).... So your choices are to stall it somehow (needs a manual transmission usually) or stop air from getting in. It's why old Detroits folks would keep a floor mat or something else heavy they could slap over the air intake to choke it out.
So, an emergency cutoff that shuts off the oxygen supply?
There is. It's required on some industrial locations and oil fields . But it's not so common an occurrence for everyone to need one.
No. The only way to stop it is to suffocate the engine. Either by blocking off the intake, or dumping CO2 into the intake. Look up a runaway diesel on YouTube, scary stuff. I've had it happen to me, it's very loud and very sudden. You can almost feel each combustion stroke, like a slap on the chest.
Some old Toyotas cut off air instead of fuel when turning off the engine. Possibly also some Mercedes'.
U just forgot to maintain your car servicing
If it's a manual you just put it in a high gear and drop the clutch with the brakes on. Had it happen to me once. Very scary stuff.
When you turn off the engine in a gasoline powered car you turn off the spark. Diesels don't use spark. The engine just compresses the fuel until it explodes.
On both petrol engines and diesel engines you also turn off the fuel.
It has been many decades since diesel engines turned to fuel injection.
Yup. This one looks accidental and not intentional. The end result is super sucky and scary regardless
He's rolling coal, so regardless it's the latter.
Yet ANOTHER reason why automatic transmissions suck ass
...can other people not take their automatic out of drive? Tap brake. Press button. Move selector. You are now in neutral. Works while in motion. Are there cars so badly designed that they don't allow that?
I dont even need to tap the brakes, i can just shift into neutral from drive.
There are but not that one. If your gear shift is a dial you more than likely can't do it but this truck has a column shifter.
My reply was made in context to the “runaway” notion in the above comment, which, oddly, was the primary point of that comment
Automatic transmission have a neutral gear, you know.
How does that stop a runaway diesel engine? It doesn’t. The only ways to stop one are stall it while it’s in gear by dumping the clutch or restricting intake air flow. Putting the transmission in neutral would actually exacerbate the problem
Putting in it neutral means the engine is no longer transmitting power to the wheels. That makes it much less likely that you will crash into someone and send both them and yourself over a cliff.
Scary driving. Looks like the driver was going too fast and could not slow down for the traffic.
And instead of turning into the rock wall, he took out another innocent vehicle and himself.
I'm not sure why this sub, we didn't see them parking anywhere.
What is a coal rolling truck? And it looks like he sent himself down the cliff too.
I work for the fire department that responded to this one. It was a few years ago. I can attest that he parked on his roof in the river about 200 feet below.
Were you there when they pulled out the jaws of life to get the trapped woman out of the truck? Busy place over in Utah.
But the libs were still owned, right?
And!!! He took out a Subaru in the process. Double own.
I don’t think it can be avoided with that much exhaust.
Coal rolling is when you deliberately tune your penis-compensation truck to pump out clouds of soot, in order to own the liberals apparently.
I didn't even know they did it intentionally, but I ALWAYS assume these guys have the littlest member in their town so they try to compensate by having these gigantic trucks. This just confirms it.
Thanks, I hadn't heard that phrase before.
A coal rolling truck is a diesel truck that has been modified to force excess fuel into the engine without enough air, which causes incomplete combustion and clouds of soot.
Thanks, now I know what this is (Redditors are always so helpful). My next question is how did someone figure it out for what reason?
He was coal rolling down the hill to his parking spot.
Actually, this is the absolute BEST parking spot for any coal- rolling a$$hole.
This is very troubling to me. I lack concern of the safety of the coal roller as they go over the cliff.
It may not have been intentional
It wasn't. Clearly hit black ice while attempting to accelerate up a hill and then over compensated.
Well I meant rolling coal. That may not have been intentional.
You have to modify the engine to roll coal. It is 100% intentional.
Didn't know that.
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Same crash (2) pics... view from the road down to the river below.
Can't park there.
Someone knows a shortcut
Is this where the term rolling coal came from?
Might not have helped in this case, but where is the guard rail?
Damn shitty looks like dude hit black ice and slid, hope they all made it. Insurance rates for that dude just skyrocketed
Dat whiskey throttle tho
Rollen coal
So many roads that need guard rails out there. yikes
My AWD hits the rear wheels first when I take off and I get that rear end swing. That what this looks like. On a mountain I drive like a grandmother.
How does one roll coal?
Put a douche in a truck and push them into innocent travelers down a mountain 😑
You know they're a genuine pavement princess when they can't keep control of their truck in inclement conditions.
Looks like a runaway, which is full throttle without hitting the accelerator.
If I survived then only one of us is climbing up that embankment.
Anecdotal, but I have rarely never seen a ram truck that wasnt driven by a huge douchebag. And I live in the south where they're almost always lifted with some instagram sticker on the back.
But, they're all terrain tires!
That’s not a cliff. That’s a 45 degree angle hill which yes is steep but not even close to being a cliff.
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Was that a Ram? Cause it did 😡
Why are all pick up drivers so immoral.... oh, and Jeep drivers suck.
I'm not sure where the hate is directed here. The road is icy, the slight bend clearly fucked traction and sent him sideways. It fucking happens on icy passes. Sure the black smoke is obnoxious, but has no part in this shit.
Bunch of tropical dwellers thinking they know how to drive like gods on ice.
This is years old
The AI is strong with this one.