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These are refugees, not economic immigrants. I personally would be happy, if the refugees that we accept, are able to then work in a skilled job in our country.
Sounds like all those employers should be at the unemployment office asking for employees with the skills they require. Then, if they can't find any, perhaps they should invest in one of the unemployed workers that are available.
Nothing good comes from artificially incentivizing people to move to already have-not rural and northern regions, however, I don't see those programs being shut down yet. If it's so bad being here, then what are we doing here unsupported financially like they are? It was all a scam.
Locals are now priced out of the market, unemployment is even worse, we have no infrastructure, capacity, or services for the influx of southerners, never mind foreigners. Rent has doubled, and housing availability is zero, that's with every house having been divided into as many "units" as possible by the new non-local property owners.
Our mayors, and chambers of commerce all threw their constituents under the bus to prop up their personal ponzis, the province to prop up their ponzi, and the federal government to prop up their ponzi scheme.
The Boomers' era ended (perpetual ponzi schemes), we need to get real and have an economic model that ebbs and flows with the times. Right now we're so overinflated we'll have to deflate to our actual economically sustainable size, then resume organic growth (in accordance with reconciliation) with the help of automation and modernization to improve our productivity level.
This economy based on paper bullshit does nothing. (like all these bad autoloans we've sold newcomers who will just skip out on them coming to roost)
Hard to have a meaningful discussion about this when it’s behind a paywall. Programs come and go. From the immigration website it says they reached their cap for 2025, so it doesn’t sound completely unexpected. It does say they plan on processing fewer applications, which is also not a surprise.
But also, I’m much less concerned about the employers. Shit happens and programs change. Any business person who thinks otherwise is underprepared.
I really hate people sharing paywalled articles wihout doing a basic summary. it;s typical low effort posts that would get a thread nuked in another sub. No point discussing if you can't read anything.
Almost feels like it's the globe or the star themselves sharing it to drive traffic and subscriptions.
Many of us have subscriptions. Those who don't are free to avoid discussions that require access. Choosing to comment when one doesn't know the subject matter of discussion is a personal choice that speaks for itself.
How many. I think most get around the subs through alternative means.
If your argument is only those who pay money to specific outlets can discuss issues related to Canadian politics then what are we even doing here. Go talk to your echo chamber or the low quality comments section in these paywalled newspapers.
If your argument is only those who pay money to specific outlets can discuss issues related to Canadian politics then what are we even doing here. Go talk to your echo chamber or the low quality cements section in these paywalled news papers.
No, my argument is people expressing opinions on topics which they openly admit to not knowing about is a self-indictment that is separate from whether they financially support journalism (but probably related).
Kudos to u/dekuweku for questioning the value of commenting on articles that aren't read.
This 'higher nobility of CanPol posters' shtick is getting tiresome. At least the other subs acknowledge they're giving (less verbose) hot takes.
3 days ago there was a paywalled David Frum article that had 160+ comments, 0 of which referenced parts of the article behind the paywall.
Add to that all the non-paywalled articles where it's obvious from the comments that posters have only read the headline. My personal favourite: "Canada's economy sees surprise boost in 3rd quarter, avoiding a technical recession". Dozens of posters speculated on possible causes for the boost. The article's subheading was "Much of the 3rd quarter growth came from a boost to military spending"
I should rephrase that as 'most' who bother to read the article.
The actual majority probably don't read the paywall article and are just responding off the provocative headlines, and off each other's vibes.
I'm in many communities, most of them have a requirement for the OP to put some work into their posting, such as paraphrasing the contents so people can have a good idea of what they are talking about and see if they wan tto click in to know more.
These sort of links with no content posts does feel very much like the newspapers themselves trying to drive subs to their outlets.
We pay either way, right? Either for the administration required to get these skilled refugees working or for the societal, opportunity, as well as very direct costs of them not being able to.
We’ve been warned about our productivity crisis for decades and at the same time are throttling these folks’ ability to be productive. Make it make sense.
Well this program is aimed at resettlement of refugees from overseas, not work for asylum seekers. I think asylum seekers are permitted to work while their claims are processed.
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Start training or educating potential employees again. That was common for decades. Now no employer wants to do it.
Plenty of Canadians and legal residents who can fill those jobs or be trained to do them.
Employers want a permanent low-income caste of workers to exploit. No sympathies here. Invest in people or go bust.
These are refugees, not economic immigrants. I personally would be happy, if the refugees that we accept, are able to then work in a skilled job in our country.
I think the sticking point is the phrase " now employers are in limbo" as if they've got no other options to fill a position.
Limbo is literally the position they'd be in, before they decide to hire another option. It's temporal.
Stop mixing refuges with immigrants
Sounds like all those employers should be at the unemployment office asking for employees with the skills they require. Then, if they can't find any, perhaps they should invest in one of the unemployed workers that are available.
No? Why don't those employers want to work?
A step in the right direction.
Nothing good comes from artificially incentivizing people to move to already have-not rural and northern regions, however, I don't see those programs being shut down yet. If it's so bad being here, then what are we doing here unsupported financially like they are? It was all a scam.
Locals are now priced out of the market, unemployment is even worse, we have no infrastructure, capacity, or services for the influx of southerners, never mind foreigners. Rent has doubled, and housing availability is zero, that's with every house having been divided into as many "units" as possible by the new non-local property owners.
Our mayors, and chambers of commerce all threw their constituents under the bus to prop up their personal ponzis, the province to prop up their ponzi, and the federal government to prop up their ponzi scheme.
The Boomers' era ended (perpetual ponzi schemes), we need to get real and have an economic model that ebbs and flows with the times. Right now we're so overinflated we'll have to deflate to our actual economically sustainable size, then resume organic growth (in accordance with reconciliation) with the help of automation and modernization to improve our productivity level.
This economy based on paper bullshit does nothing. (like all these bad autoloans we've sold newcomers who will just skip out on them coming to roost)
Hard to have a meaningful discussion about this when it’s behind a paywall. Programs come and go. From the immigration website it says they reached their cap for 2025, so it doesn’t sound completely unexpected. It does say they plan on processing fewer applications, which is also not a surprise.
But also, I’m much less concerned about the employers. Shit happens and programs change. Any business person who thinks otherwise is underprepared.
I really hate people sharing paywalled articles wihout doing a basic summary. it;s typical low effort posts that would get a thread nuked in another sub. No point discussing if you can't read anything.
Almost feels like it's the globe or the star themselves sharing it to drive traffic and subscriptions.
Many of us have subscriptions. Those who don't are free to avoid discussions that require access. Choosing to comment when one doesn't know the subject matter of discussion is a personal choice that speaks for itself.
How many. I think most get around the subs through alternative means.
If your argument is only those who pay money to specific outlets can discuss issues related to Canadian politics then what are we even doing here. Go talk to your echo chamber or the low quality comments section in these paywalled newspapers.
No, my argument is people expressing opinions on topics which they openly admit to not knowing about is a self-indictment that is separate from whether they financially support journalism (but probably related).
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Kudos to u/dekuweku for questioning the value of commenting on articles that aren't read.
This 'higher nobility of CanPol posters' shtick is getting tiresome. At least the other subs acknowledge they're giving (less verbose) hot takes.
3 days ago there was a paywalled David Frum article that had 160+ comments, 0 of which referenced parts of the article behind the paywall.
Add to that all the non-paywalled articles where it's obvious from the comments that posters have only read the headline. My personal favourite: "Canada's economy sees surprise boost in 3rd quarter, avoiding a technical recession". Dozens of posters speculated on possible causes for the boost. The article's subheading was "Much of the 3rd quarter growth came from a boost to military spending"
https://www.reddit.com/r/CanadaPolitics/comments/1p8w6x4/canadas_economy_sees_surprise_boost_in_3rd/
So what’s the problem again?
I should rephrase that as 'most' who bother to read the article.
The actual majority probably don't read the paywall article and are just responding off the provocative headlines, and off each other's vibes.
I'm in many communities, most of them have a requirement for the OP to put some work into their posting, such as paraphrasing the contents so people can have a good idea of what they are talking about and see if they wan tto click in to know more.
These sort of links with no content posts does feel very much like the newspapers themselves trying to drive subs to their outlets.
We pay either way, right? Either for the administration required to get these skilled refugees working or for the societal, opportunity, as well as very direct costs of them not being able to.
We’ve been warned about our productivity crisis for decades and at the same time are throttling these folks’ ability to be productive. Make it make sense.
Well this program is aimed at resettlement of refugees from overseas, not work for asylum seekers. I think asylum seekers are permitted to work while their claims are processed.