Ole Miss played with a lot of heart and I loved their run this year.
But for the purposes of this thread, I do think it was clear that Miami was a significantly better team, despite almost managing to blow it regardless. Ole Miss was very scrappy (and at many times, lucky) to keep it so close.
You did! Both in the game and the tournament more generally. Hell of a year. But as the last SEC team standing, a lot of this dunking has very little to do with Ole Miss specifically. I don't think I've seen anybody questioning why Ole Miss made the playoffs or their performance in them. But as the last hope of a conference that got 5 teams in, your loss is the trigger for a lot of mockery aimed at the SEC.
I actually think this is a little conspiratorial. Here is the bracket. It had more to do with 5 teams being in and Georgia getting a bye thann anything else. So, first of all, the SEC wasn't guaranteed a semi-finals slot. Tulane could have beaten Ole Miss and Georgia. Hugely unlikely, but possible. Second of all, we can't flex the bracket that much. Tulane, JMU, and Indiana are locked in (maybe you can switch Tulane and JMU, but that's meaningless).
To make a better "worst case" bracket you have to make Georgia not play an SEC team in the second round. You could flex them up to 2 to make them play Miami, or down to 4 to make them play Oregon. You could also swap Oregon and Ole Miss. Basically everything else makes no difference. And, honestly? I don't remember much controversy about the top 5 of the bracket. I don't think there would have been THAT much squawking about moving Georgia to 2, but it's hard for me to view ranking them lower as a deliberate act to benefit the SEC. I don't think I saw anyone argue for 2 loss Ole Miss over 1 loss Oregon or Texas Tech over Georgia.
You did fine in any world where the SEC is considered one of the top two to four conferences. You did abysmal in a world where the SEC is not only considered the best conference, but a good standard deviation above the other conferences. That was the reality we were all living in for a good 10 years+ there. It’s not the reality anymore and I think most people are finally accepting that.
It’s been abundantly obvious that the Top of the SEC is down and the bottom has mostly risen. It’s a deep conference in terms of parity. I would in no way consider it “the best” conference by measure of elite teams anymore.
Has the bottom really risen? That seems like copium
Bowl season seems to disprove that theory, and Arkansas and Florida lost to AAC teams.. and it’s not like there was a ton of cannabilism from lower SEC teams this year like there usually is. (FL over UT being the exception)
Truth is the SEC is just like any other conference
You did. Ole Miss was minutes away from another upset nobody predicted with a ton of question marks about the headspace of this staff and team. Reddit wants to take this opportunity to shit all over the SEC instead of recognizing this which should come as no surprise really. For a wasteland of professional shit talkers days like today are their super bowl.
Nobody’s saying otherwise. The point is you had to earn your way there the hard way while other SEC teams lost. AKA, the opposite of benefit of the doubt
Oklahoma is a weird one because based on the criteria I'd like them to use of who had the most deserving season i think they should be in. But we've also been told its about just putting the best teams in regardless of who put together the best season when it benefits the teams they want to put in. And I think Notre Dame was a far better team if you look at it that way.
The real issue is the moving goal posts. They screwed a deserving FSU team to put in Bama but didn’t also apply that logic to UGA who most people agreed was a top 4 team
Leaving FSU out was a travesty and showed how shitty the committee is. To your larger point of the committee just doing whatever it wants and justifying it after, I agree.
But I don't know if you can compare decisions from the 4-team CFP to decisions in the 12-team CFP.
Love how everyone leaves UGA out when talking about teams that got screw that year. #1 team, defending national champs, looked elite all year, lose the SEC championship by 3 to Bama, drop 5 spots to #6.
There were three undefeated P5 teams and the two teams with a loss who were ahead of them were the one loss team who beat them and the one loss team who beat the team who beat them. 6th was the highest they could’ve been reasonably ranked
I’m gonna say Georgia could easily have been ranked above the team we beat by 60 points. They might have cried a little more but that team obviously wasn’t anywhere near a top four team.
ND gets in IF Virginia won the ACC Championship. Because Duke won, they put Miami in to have ACC representation and that caused JMU to be in too because of the auto bid rules for conference champions.
Otherwise there is absolutely no reason to have Miami behind ND the whole time until the final rankings.
And none of this would have mattered if the committee was honest about where Alabama should have been, which is somewhere in the mid teens at best. ND and Miami both deserved playoff spots more. Hell, I think BYU would have had a better showing too.
I hate to agree with you, but you’re absolutely right.
Notre Dame was almost certainly one of the best looking teams in the country. But who cares? They shat the bed when given the chance to prove it. We’re supposed to just ignore that because they looked great beating up cupcakes?
Yeah, I mean look at Tech. They looked like maybe the only team that could compete with Indiana. But they just didn’t play anybody on the same level as Oregon.
The a&m game was also a trench fight with a plays difference and then miami handled ohio state easily. This sub is just in the circlejerk phase right now
Ole Miss and Georgia played a banger of a game and then Ole Miss and Miami was a banger of a game. Bama stunk it up but they weren't really expected to do anything anyways as a 9 seed that probably shouldn't have even been in there.
You'd think the way people are acting that the SEC should be relegated to divison II status. I get that this place is heavily biased towards the B1G these days but get a grip people lol
I feel like “made up” is just recent bias. To act like Bama and Georgia didn’t go on a complete tear the past decade is just silly. Not saying the SEC superiority narrative was fair but all those nattys certainly add up.
Edit: I’m also implying that the middle of the pack of the SEC wasn’t world beaters. I’m just stating why that narrative existed.
Bama and UGA did, but people have been acting like the middle/bottom of the SEC is so much better than every other conference year over year, and there's just not a lot to suggest it's true top to bottom
Case in point: Alabama moved up in the rankings somehow after hanging on against a bumbling Auburn. I know, rivalry game and all, but you can’t look me in the face and tell me they deserved that bump up when we all know it was a hedge by espn to keep them in the hunt.
100%. I don’t think many would argue those were not elite teams
People get annoyed when we have to hear about how mighty Kentucky or Tennessee would go 12-0 in every other conference. Reality is they would have pretty similar W/L most years
Saying A&M got "manhandled" in the trenches is revisionist history for a game that's 3 weeks old lol. I understand the anti-SEC circlejerk (and completely get the majority of it) but just making stuff up like this is insane lol.
Iowa seriously was a weird one this season, close games with the best literally... couple things go Iowa's way in a few games and they're a top 10. Strong, tough team that played a tough as nails schedule and was competitive. It didn't surprise me at all they won over Vandy.
Yeah, I agree. Ole Miss and Georgia certainly held up their end of the bargain. A&M’s game vs Miami was ugly but it was still a valiant effort. I think the more reasonable takeaway is that second-tier SEC teams such as Oklahoma and Alabama didn’t receive as much scrutiny as they should have due to the collectively inflated perception of the difficulty of the SEC.
I don’t like the SEC either But the constant bashing of them having Nick Saban, Joe Burrow and Cam Newton in the past are funny . Like they were great, and the system that was in place allowed them to be on top for a long time . Different system, Different money and the transfer portal has changed the game.
Yeah, I really can’t figure out why people are just now realizing everyone except Indiana was cheating but the SEC perfected it first. The only reason the SEC was dominant is because we were able to cheat for cheaper than everyone else was able to, because of weather, shady academics, very reputable ladies, and fame.
That’s not why they were able to cheat better. They had an entire regional ecosystem to support their cheating. Everything from local business, the press, government and even other conference schools to cover it up. Thats why people lost their minds when Tennessee ratted on Bama during the Means saga. Plenty of info out there on unwritten rules between schools on how much you could offer players in their backyard etc. schools like Miami SMU USC were repeatedly penalized for the same or even lesser levels of ‘cheating’ because of press reporting which is what happens when your school isn’t the only thing going on in the entire state. Academic scandals would occur in places where professors didn’t feel like they’d end up in a ditch if they raised the alarm on systemic athlete cheating.
Those all had parts in changing the game, but having an actual playoff system is probably what truly changed it. The sec has always been given the benefit of the doubt, not only that, but since 2006 (20 years) the sec has played for the championship every single year while other teams and conferences were left out with better or the same records.
In the last 15 years the b1g had 10 teams left out with a 1 loss record, the sec had 2 teams left out. It's easier to win when youre included rather than being left out.
Teams left out:
*2010: tcu 12-0, Michigan state 11-1, ohio state 11-1, Wisconsin 11-1, Stanford 11-1 *2011: oklahoma state 11-1, standard 11-1 *2012: florida 11-1, kansas state 11-1, Oregon 11-1 ohio state 13-0 (because of tattoos for jerseys) *2013: Michigan state 12-1, ohio state 12-1 *2014: Baylor 11-1, tcu 11-1 *2015: Iowa 12-1, ohio state 11-1 *2017: Wisconsin 12-1, ucf 12-0 *2018: ohio state 12-1, ucf 12-0 *2022: notre dame 12-1 *2023: florida state 13-0, liberty 13-0, ohio state 11-1, Georgia 11-1
Right? Did you see the footage of Carson Beck literally on his knees on the sideline towards the end? That game came down to the very last second and could have gone either way the whole time. Ole Miss played Miami as close as they could and almost pulled it off.
This is the correct take. Miami was clearly the better team and Ole Miss deserves a lot of credit for hanging in there and almost winning. I think their coaches did a nice job given the disparity in line talent.
It's very difficult to win when the other team's offensive line is just bigger/stronger and dominant.
Agree. The most interesting part of the column for me was saying that Ole Miss is one of the biggest beneficiaries of the SEC weakening, not just the other conferences.
The Ole Miss vs Georgia game was a heavyweight bout. Just like Ole Miss vs Miami and Miami vs Ohio State. That side of the bracket was loaded with 4 legit teams.
It was also the current Cinderella vs the program that’s been the Death Star of the sport for most of the last 15 years. A lot of people were gleefully hate-watching the beatdown.
If bama is just a regular 8-4 to 9-3 team for a couple more years, the tide is going to change against them ratings-wise.
That and that every other post on the sub right now is a discussion on the SEC. Sure, they’re all saying the same thing, but the conference is just as much in the spotlight as it’s always been, albeit for different reasons.
ESPN wouldn't be able to bring in enough viewership on their talk shows if people didn't hate watch it to complain about how much the SEC gets talked about.
It feels like the SEC was significantly better for a decade, that’s no longer the case, but instead of being just saying it’s no longer dominant and at this moment the Big 10 is better….people are deciding to only focus on the part of the SEC not longer being dominant. Talking heads do a helluva job making people angry it.
More like two decades, and now everyone is acting like that was all just a mirage conjured up by the media because of the past two seasons lol.
Also talking so much about benefit of the doubt, but Bama was the only team that you could even remotely argue got given benefit of the doubt. And was that about getting a 5th team in over ND, the literal golden child of the committee that is contractually given special treatment, or did they just not want to kill conference championship games?
Assuming Indiana or Oregon goes on to win, which I think they will, the Big Ten will almost certainly be given some benefit of the doubt moving forward until things change. Will anyone have an issue with that? I won't. It makes sense.
“Humbling?” A team that lost their coach and half their coaching staff made it to the semifinals and played a nailbiter with like six lead changes. God damn people are DESPERATE to push this narrative.
I feel like people on this sub think most SEC fans are no different than the lunatics calling into Finebaum’s show, or SEC Network talking heads. In my experience, this is not the case, and people doing SEC chants were just casual fans to begin with.
I was in the military surrounded by grads of various SEC schools at this time. There were a few (rocky top I see you) who were absolute haters of all other SEC teams above all. But I legit watched morons they wore red khaki pants year round as a fashion statement chant SEC and root for Tebow and Florida in the title game. They also assumed I’d root for UF too because of state pride or something. Between Ohio State and UF, I rooted for a terrorist event.
It’s important for them to really lean into the SEC sucks narrative, because if they don’t, we will get another over ranking issue next year. There is really no reason to believe that the SEC is all that much better than any other conference based off of these records. It was always Saban.
Even if you leave Saban out, the SEC has almost as many championships as every other conference combined since the BCS era (8 for the SEC to 10 of everyone else). The SEC also has had more schools than anyone else (Florida, LSU ,UGA, Auburn, Tennessee) even without Alabama. It wasn’t just a Saban thing although he certainly made it look more exaggerated.
The funniest part is when michigan flairs try to join the circlejerk. I can’t talk much shit because of my team obviously but that stuff is just absurd lol
Both seasons of the expanded playoff, 9 of the top 10 teams by SOR got into the playoff along with 2 conference champion AQs from outside the top 10. For all the spectacle and whining, they’ve ended up straightforwardly taking the top resumes with only one exception each year.
In 2024, if all at-larges were selected purely by SOR, everything would have been the same except South Carolina would have been in over SMU. In 2025, going purely by SOR for all at-larges, all the same teams make it except BYU would have been in over Miami.
Not really. The way SOR works, beating weak nonconference teams doesn’t help you. You rack up SOR points by winning games where there’s an appreciable chance of losing. Last season, SOR put more B1G teams into its pre-playoff top 10 than SEC teams.
And in any case the SEC is going to a 9 game schedule in 2026.
Realistically the only SEC team that got humbled in the CFP was Alabama. Ole Miss certainly didn't get humbled last night, though the beginning of the game sure felt like it was going to be bad.
In hindsight it was a mistake to play the hurricanes with high winds. It's their natural habitat where they thrive, but not a good environment for an aggie.
Lost a one score game that came down to a single play against a team who’s gonna play for the natty? In hindsight I’m pretty damn proud of how we did. Not saying Miamis win was “flukey” or that we would have gone on the same run they did, but if Reed makes that last throw, there’s a very good chance we win that game.
I will agree that the SEC isn't what it once was. I've been one of the people here banging on that drum but to call last night's game a "humbling showing" is a bit much. That was a pretty damn good game even if the SEC team lost. There's nothing to be ashamed about that game.
That said, we all need to take off the "SEC IS DA BEST" glasses and realize the competition has caught up to them and that any reasonably good team in any of the P4 conferences can beat each other.
kansas fans have been doing this for decades.
In fact, there were people insisting that you shouldn’t go to Columbia for the game this year because people from Missouri are evil savages. They also claimed that Columbia isn’t safe for black ku fans because of “racism”.
I didn't even think that Bama should be in the playoffs. The fact that we won a game (albeit against an SEC team) was a surprise. Getting beat by Indiana was expected. Getting absolutely manhandled and nearly shut out was...less expected.
Reddit hates the south and also just has a weird obsession with getting happy about people in southern states having their lives destroyed. The posts you’ll see when a hurricane is projected to hit florida are insane
Will never forget moving to New York and people saying "Oh thank goodness you got out of there!" When I asked them to explain what that meant, it was just thinly veiled xenophobia of the South.
"Got what they voted for" Oh really? The dead children voted for a flood?
Then people would cite the voting stats for Kerr County like the kids weren't all there for camp from somewhere else and, in any event, deserved to die because their parents might have voted the wrong way.
My favorite is their obsession with Sherman who was basically the American version of Oskar Dirlewanger:
Sherman telegraphed Grant that "we must act with vindictive earnestness against the Sioux, even to their extermination, men, women and children".[238] In 1867, he wrote to Grant that "we are not going to let a few thieving, ragged Indians check and stop the progress" of the railroads.[239][240] In 1873, Sherman wrote in a private letter that "during an assault, the soldiers can not pause to distinguish between male and female, or even discriminate as to age. As long as resistance is made, death must be meted out, but the moment all resistance ceases, the firing will stop and all survivors turned over to the proper Indian agent".[241]
Displacement of the Plains Indians was facilitated by the growth of the railroads and the eradication of the bison. Sherman believed that bison eradication should be encouraged as a means of weakening Indian resistance to assimilation. He voiced this view in remarks to a joint session of the Texas legislature in 1875, although the U.S. Army under Sherman's command never conducted its own program of bison extermination.[242][243] Sherman encouraged bison hunting by private citizens and, when Congress passed a law in 1874 to protect the bison from over-hunting, Sherman helped convince President Grant to use a pocket veto to prevent it from coming into force.[244]
It's because it's about more than football to most of them, at least on Reddit. They hate southerners, and assume they're all the most backward rednecks imaginable. It's ironic, because they're just projecting this weird idea of "regional pride" or whatever on the south, when that's unironically why a lot of them hate the SEC so much.
It's not just the SEC, and it's not just football or how southern teams have won lots of championships in the past couple decades. I know this because it happens in other sports. I can't tell you how many times I've seen OKC Thunder fans get education stats or stupid cousin/sister jokes quoted at them in /r/NBA. OKC just won its first championship.
There's a lot of posters here who are clearly leaning on SEC hate as an outlet for politics, which is bizarre when you jointly consider that football as a whole has a heavy conservative lean among players and coaches regardless of where they are AND that many of the southern schools they're shitting on are the hotbeds of leftward leaning ideology in the south to begin with.
Calling us confederates in every damn game thread while the university has done everything to remove all that imagery from the campus while I drive around the Midwest and see way more confederate flags flying than I ever did growing up in Mississippi.
This space-filler of an article could have been copy-pasted from the stuff you see every year during March Madness after a conference that got 9 teams in the tournament has none of them advance to the final four.
The only teams that got humbled in the playoff were the G5 teams and Bama. Everyone other game was competitive. And I don't even think that the G5 teams were "humbled" since making the playoffs was a pretty solid showing in itself.
I’m starting to think that other conferences think Alabama = the entirety of the SEC. I know they were vicious overlords for a while but it’s just one school.
Fans of teams who went like 7-6 really need to shut up about how Ole Miss got “embarrassed” or “humbled”. We lost a close game to a really good team that just beat defending champion Ohio State as well. Somebody had to lose. It doesn’t mean we were fraudulent
I love how anyone thinks anything will change for the Big Ten or SEC because of a bad post season showing or two.
In almost every conceivable situation, any BIG or SEC team with 2 or less losses is in the CFB. I know that Vanderbilt didn't go this year, but unfortunately Vandy was slotted behind Texas, because of head to head, and Texas wasn't going because of 3 losses. Oh and conference championship games don't count.
Next year, if there are 5 two loss SEC teams, and there's a second place, 2 loss Big 12 or ACC team, the SEC will put all five in, before that Arizona State or Virginia Tech team gets in.
This playoff system is MADE for the SEC and BIG. They will benefit the most from it every single time.
This article is all over the place. He says the SEC is still the best in the sport but don’t give them the benefit of the doubt.
Says look at the results when selecting CFP teams.
Cool, let’s do that. The SEC was 6-4 vs the ACC and 2-1 against the Big 10 during the regular season.
If not the results during the season what should they use? Last years results with different players and coaches?
I’d love for these bowl games to kick off the season and have cross conference games like the NfL does.
It will never happen but should happen. It will be increasing difficult in the next few years to compare resumes when the SEC is going to 9 conference games.
I mean, maybe, just maybe, Miami is that good? Top teams in other conferences have always been top teams for the most part. Beating Ole Miss (Close game) defense of struggle, OSU (a whipping), and A&M (Close game) offense of struggle, doesnt mean the SEC is bad, but Miami is showing up to be a really damn good team despite their 2 losses. Honestly, the only team not to show any fight was the 2nd place team OSU from the BIG...ND loss by 1 score, TAMU by 1 score, and Ole Miss by 1 score...
Look, I view the MAC and Big Ten West to be the pinnacle of college football. But I think all of us can fully acknowledge the following:
ESPN drives most college football coverage, and their alliance with the SEC leads to incredible conflicts of interest.
SEC media is unusually smug, and Sankey as the head of the SEC is off-puttingly smug
It's terribly enjoyable to watch the teams that get high on sniffing their own farts getting their comeuppance
But if we replace the SEC circle jerk with a Big Ten circle jerk, I think we will all be equally horrified. The new fart sniffers won't be better than the old fart sniffers.
The best team doesn’t have to come from the best conference.
I’m not even saying the SEC is the best conference, but citing close CFP losses and a 3 year drought in winning the championship is a just really poor argument.
I don’t give a shit. Get rid of the conferences and have like 8 balanced divisions and let the winners of those into the playoff. It’s NFL-lite with the parity of the top 20 some odd programs and player movement now. The only people who are shouting S-E-C are folks not in the conference.
I will be the happiest man in the world when this obsession over the SEC and any conference in general goes away. Is this topic and anything related to it not exhausting?
It blows my mind that people can watch a game that good and compelling last night and immediately think “OMG YAY THE SEC LOST A GAME” as the first takeaway
People are just annoyed that 5 teams got put in and that several SEC teams were clearly over ranked all year (mostly talking about the mid tier teams here - which then in turn props up the top teams that beat them)
This year was particularly bad, so the haters are louder.
It's not all because "SEC". We've always had brand bias in CFB, and the SEC has a lot of big brands.
[On3] Vandy's Clark Lea tells @clowfb the 'silliness' of trying to make everybody happy has marred the College Football Playoff: “It is just absurd the idea that we’re going to open the door to teams that play in conferences that aren’t the SEC that have the same record we have. I mean, it’s crazy.”
1) please shut the fuck up, Ole Miss just did something extraordinary and Indiana is working on something even more wild. Enjoy the sport for the little bit longer we have. The SEC can wait for a few weeks to get your rent.
2) this is why the SEC was 'over-ranked'. Preseason rankings aren't unimportant, but pretending that's the only reason so many SEC were ranked is ignoring the reality of the season. Try beating them in OOC next year, that will help a lot.
It’s pretty clear this year that the SEC was not up to their standards, and not the elite of college football, I don’t think that’s defensible. But I do think before we dance on the grave of SEC dominance we’ll need to see it for a few seasons l.
The concern for the SEC would be now that NIL has evened the playing field for talent, when the schools that make bank start becoming relevant and dominant, can they keep up? I personally think they will remain a top tier conference going back and forth with big ten mainly, but just pointing out the direction it could go.
How did the SEC get humbled? 2/5 teams were eliminated by another SEC team, the other 2 lost to the same team by one score each. And then there’s Alabama, who in fairness was going up against the clear #1
Who watched that game and thought, “Ole Miss doesn’t deserve to be here”? If not for a missed PI call on the last play, Ole Miss MAY have won. I’m not saying they would have, but 15 yards closer to the end zone would have made it more likely.
Ultimately we need more teams in playoff, the bye week should be replaced with 2 more opening round games. I forgot the official ranking but imagine throwing ND, Vandy, Texas and BYU into this mix. I know Vandy lost but maybe Stowers doesnt opt out if they play in CFP. Could also make case for Utah
Humbling? Those guys played their hearts out and it was a damn good game. You could definitely point to other SEC losses and call them "humbling" but brother this ain't one.
I say this as a general CFB fan with zero skin in the game.
Who fucking cares? I dont give a fuck about how my team's conference or any other conference does. I care about my team. Every post on this shitty sub lately is about how a conference is overrated and the same lame ass comments that everyone has read a hundred times.
Idk I thought we did good
Everyone knows you can’t get credit for playing well if you lose.
No but really I thought you guys played well throughout the playoff. A lot to be proud of this year.
Ole Miss played with a lot of heart and I loved their run this year.
But for the purposes of this thread, I do think it was clear that Miami was a significantly better team, despite almost managing to blow it regardless. Ole Miss was very scrappy (and at many times, lucky) to keep it so close.
Even if Ole Miss would've pulled it out, I would have come away convinced Miami was the better team.
You did! Both in the game and the tournament more generally. Hell of a year. But as the last SEC team standing, a lot of this dunking has very little to do with Ole Miss specifically. I don't think I've seen anybody questioning why Ole Miss made the playoffs or their performance in them. But as the last hope of a conference that got 5 teams in, your loss is the trigger for a lot of mockery aimed at the SEC.
This and if they didn't setup the bracket to where SEC teams could get this deep by just playing each other.
I actually think this is a little conspiratorial. Here is the bracket. It had more to do with 5 teams being in and Georgia getting a bye thann anything else. So, first of all, the SEC wasn't guaranteed a semi-finals slot. Tulane could have beaten Ole Miss and Georgia. Hugely unlikely, but possible. Second of all, we can't flex the bracket that much. Tulane, JMU, and Indiana are locked in (maybe you can switch Tulane and JMU, but that's meaningless).
To make a better "worst case" bracket you have to make Georgia not play an SEC team in the second round. You could flex them up to 2 to make them play Miami, or down to 4 to make them play Oregon. You could also swap Oregon and Ole Miss. Basically everything else makes no difference. And, honestly? I don't remember much controversy about the top 5 of the bracket. I don't think there would have been THAT much squawking about moving Georgia to 2, but it's hard for me to view ranking them lower as a deliberate act to benefit the SEC. I don't think I saw anyone argue for 2 loss Ole Miss over 1 loss Oregon or Texas Tech over Georgia.
Texas is literally the cheeziest team in the country and they think we’ve been humbled? CHEEZE CHEEZE CHEEZE
Texas being the best of a bad SEC is very funny.
I’m not saying we’re the best, just the cheeziest
You guys did fine. Ole Miss belonged. Also, FLK.
Y’all did great, especially with all the Lane Kiffin drama going on.
It no longer means more.
It Just Means As Much As
More good?
We’re more pissed off about Alabama and Oklahoma than about you guys.
Rebs are cool. Ya’ll can stay. Great season.
You did fine in any world where the SEC is considered one of the top two to four conferences. You did abysmal in a world where the SEC is not only considered the best conference, but a good standard deviation above the other conferences. That was the reality we were all living in for a good 10 years+ there. It’s not the reality anymore and I think most people are finally accepting that.
It’s been abundantly obvious that the Top of the SEC is down and the bottom has mostly risen. It’s a deep conference in terms of parity. I would in no way consider it “the best” conference by measure of elite teams anymore.
Has the bottom really risen? That seems like copium
Bowl season seems to disprove that theory, and Arkansas and Florida lost to AAC teams.. and it’s not like there was a ton of cannabilism from lower SEC teams this year like there usually is. (FL over UT being the exception)
Truth is the SEC is just like any other conference
Parity is a funny word. The PAC12 was top to bottom the most complete league and parity killed it
Sorry, you are getting lumped in with us.
You did. Ole Miss was minutes away from another upset nobody predicted with a ton of question marks about the headspace of this staff and team. Reddit wants to take this opportunity to shit all over the SEC instead of recognizing this which should come as no surprise really. For a wasteland of professional shit talkers days like today are their super bowl.
It was a hard fought game that either team could have won or lost on a single play. The headline is just fishing for clicks.
Nobody’s saying otherwise. The point is you had to earn your way there the hard way while other SEC teams lost. AKA, the opposite of benefit of the doubt
Ole Miss did the SEC proud.
There was no quit in that team until the bitter end.
Like the man once said, “They didn’t lose, they just ran out of time.”
Ole Miss put up the two most exciting and entertaining playoff games of the year. Hard to say they were humbled in any way lol.
And after their coach bounced in a really poor way... exactly. Nothing to feel bad about in my opinion.
Miss deserved to be there. Bama and Oklahoma did not.
Oklahoma is a weird one because based on the criteria I'd like them to use of who had the most deserving season i think they should be in. But we've also been told its about just putting the best teams in regardless of who put together the best season when it benefits the teams they want to put in. And I think Notre Dame was a far better team if you look at it that way.
The real issue is the moving goal posts. They screwed a deserving FSU team to put in Bama but didn’t also apply that logic to UGA who most people agreed was a top 4 team
Leaving FSU out was a travesty and showed how shitty the committee is. To your larger point of the committee just doing whatever it wants and justifying it after, I agree.
But I don't know if you can compare decisions from the 4-team CFP to decisions in the 12-team CFP.
You can’t. I don’t know why people think they’re making a good point when they bring FSU up.
They (unfairly) got moved to 5th, not 13th.
Love how everyone leaves UGA out when talking about teams that got screw that year. #1 team, defending national champs, looked elite all year, lose the SEC championship by 3 to Bama, drop 5 spots to #6.
There were three undefeated P5 teams and the two teams with a loss who were ahead of them were the one loss team who beat them and the one loss team who beat the team who beat them. 6th was the highest they could’ve been reasonably ranked
I’m gonna say Georgia could easily have been ranked above the team we beat by 60 points. They might have cried a little more but that team obviously wasn’t anywhere near a top four team.
ND gets in IF Virginia won the ACC Championship. Because Duke won, they put Miami in to have ACC representation and that caused JMU to be in too because of the auto bid rules for conference champions.
Otherwise there is absolutely no reason to have Miami behind ND the whole time until the final rankings.
And none of this would have mattered if the committee was honest about where Alabama should have been, which is somewhere in the mid teens at best. ND and Miami both deserved playoff spots more. Hell, I think BYU would have had a better showing too.
If we are just going to eye test then there’s no point in ever playing good teams.
I hate to agree with you, but you’re absolutely right.
Notre Dame was almost certainly one of the best looking teams in the country. But who cares? They shat the bed when given the chance to prove it. We’re supposed to just ignore that because they looked great beating up cupcakes?
Yeah, I mean look at Tech. They looked like maybe the only team that could compete with Indiana. But they just didn’t play anybody on the same level as Oregon.
For real. SEC bias isn’t that all SEC teams are frauds and are overrated, it’s that they should have gotten 3 team in instead of 5
The a&m game was also a trench fight with a plays difference and then miami handled ohio state easily. This sub is just in the circlejerk phase right now
B1G < SEC < Miami < Duke
Ole Miss and Georgia played a banger of a game and then Ole Miss and Miami was a banger of a game. Bama stunk it up but they weren't really expected to do anything anyways as a 9 seed that probably shouldn't have even been in there.
You'd think the way people are acting that the SEC should be relegated to divison II status. I get that this place is heavily biased towards the B1G these days but get a grip people lol
You guys did great, especially with all the BS.
But this isn't about you. This is about the unholy union of SEC/BSPN and the "assumption" of superiority. Fact is, it's made up.
I feel like “made up” is just recent bias. To act like Bama and Georgia didn’t go on a complete tear the past decade is just silly. Not saying the SEC superiority narrative was fair but all those nattys certainly add up.
Edit: I’m also implying that the middle of the pack of the SEC wasn’t world beaters. I’m just stating why that narrative existed.
Bama and UGA did, but people have been acting like the middle/bottom of the SEC is so much better than every other conference year over year, and there's just not a lot to suggest it's true top to bottom
Case in point: Alabama moved up in the rankings somehow after hanging on against a bumbling Auburn. I know, rivalry game and all, but you can’t look me in the face and tell me they deserved that bump up when we all know it was a hedge by espn to keep them in the hunt.
100%. I don’t think many would argue those were not elite teams
People get annoyed when we have to hear about how mighty Kentucky or Tennessee would go 12-0 in every other conference. Reality is they would have pretty similar W/L most years
Thats part of the issue. It was Bama and Georgia, not the entire conference.
The conference was also going on a tear in the NY6 and LSU should be in the list as well.
It was a lot more than Bama and Georgia.
1-8 against P4 in post season lol
They claim opt outs as if other teams didn’t have opt outs. Vandy only had a TE opt out, that doesn’t explain getting manhandled by Iowa
Their teams with zero opt outs (ole Miss, Alabama, A&M) also got manhandled in the trenches
Saying A&M got "manhandled" in the trenches is revisionist history for a game that's 3 weeks old lol. I understand the anti-SEC circlejerk (and completely get the majority of it) but just making stuff up like this is insane lol.
Iowa seriously was a weird one this season, close games with the best literally... couple things go Iowa's way in a few games and they're a top 10. Strong, tough team that played a tough as nails schedule and was competitive. It didn't surprise me at all they won over Vandy.
Yeah I bet Iowa hard at +195, was disrespectful. They finished the year I think 11 or 12 in metrics
Ohio State was manhandled by Miami in the trenches.
Miami is manhandling everyone on the line because that's Cristobal's bread and butter. They're probably the best offensive line in college football.
Sure, but did the SEC deserve to have 5 teams in the playoffs? The answer is a simple no.
Agreed, it should have been 7. Right commish?
Yeah, I agree. Ole Miss and Georgia certainly held up their end of the bargain. A&M’s game vs Miami was ugly but it was still a valiant effort. I think the more reasonable takeaway is that second-tier SEC teams such as Oklahoma and Alabama didn’t receive as much scrutiny as they should have due to the collectively inflated perception of the difficulty of the SEC.
I don’t like the SEC either But the constant bashing of them having Nick Saban, Joe Burrow and Cam Newton in the past are funny . Like they were great, and the system that was in place allowed them to be on top for a long time . Different system, Different money and the transfer portal has changed the game.
Yeah, I really can’t figure out why people are just now realizing everyone except Indiana was cheating but the SEC perfected it first. The only reason the SEC was dominant is because we were able to cheat for cheaper than everyone else was able to, because of weather, shady academics, very reputable ladies, and fame.
That’s not why they were able to cheat better. They had an entire regional ecosystem to support their cheating. Everything from local business, the press, government and even other conference schools to cover it up. Thats why people lost their minds when Tennessee ratted on Bama during the Means saga. Plenty of info out there on unwritten rules between schools on how much you could offer players in their backyard etc. schools like Miami SMU USC were repeatedly penalized for the same or even lesser levels of ‘cheating’ because of press reporting which is what happens when your school isn’t the only thing going on in the entire state. Academic scandals would occur in places where professors didn’t feel like they’d end up in a ditch if they raised the alarm on systemic athlete cheating.
Excuse you, Michigan has never cheated a single day in it's life. It's just the benefit of being a Michigan Mantm.
Those all had parts in changing the game, but having an actual playoff system is probably what truly changed it. The sec has always been given the benefit of the doubt, not only that, but since 2006 (20 years) the sec has played for the championship every single year while other teams and conferences were left out with better or the same records.
In the last 15 years the b1g had 10 teams left out with a 1 loss record, the sec had 2 teams left out. It's easier to win when youre included rather than being left out.
Teams left out:
*2010: tcu 12-0, Michigan state 11-1, ohio state 11-1, Wisconsin 11-1, Stanford 11-1 *2011: oklahoma state 11-1, standard 11-1 *2012: florida 11-1, kansas state 11-1, Oregon 11-1 ohio state 13-0 (because of tattoos for jerseys) *2013: Michigan state 12-1, ohio state 12-1 *2014: Baylor 11-1, tcu 11-1 *2015: Iowa 12-1, ohio state 11-1 *2017: Wisconsin 12-1, ucf 12-0 *2018: ohio state 12-1, ucf 12-0 *2022: notre dame 12-1 *2023: florida state 13-0, liberty 13-0, ohio state 11-1, Georgia 11-1
No SEC teams in the Championship Game? Let’s spend all our time talking about the SEC
Hell yeah brother, cheers from a squeaky clean Buc-ee’s bathroom.
But how else can Reddit keep up this karma farming circlejerk.
Humbling? That game was within one score and came down to the final play in the final seconds.
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Right? Did you see the footage of Carson Beck literally on his knees on the sideline towards the end? That game came down to the very last second and could have gone either way the whole time. Ole Miss played Miami as close as they could and almost pulled it off.
Right. We lost a competitive game to a team that was probably about as bad of a matchup as we could get (behind the Hoosier wood chipper).
The Hoosier wood chipper is to be feared.
What the hell is going on
If Miami plays the way they played against Ohio, Indiana had better be on guard.
If Miami plays the way they played against Ole Miss, all that will be left at the end is sawdust.
We had no business being in that game but our players never gave up. Miami was a more talented team. They weren’t disciplined and it helped ole miss
This is the correct take. Miami was clearly the better team and Ole Miss deserves a lot of credit for hanging in there and almost winning. I think their coaches did a nice job given the disparity in line talent.
It's very difficult to win when the other team's offensive line is just bigger/stronger and dominant.
I’m not sure UGA was humbled either. We beat every team on our schedule and both in tight 1 score games.
Like yeah it sucks to lose, but it’s not anything existential on our end.
And with the second youngest team in the conference
Agree. The most interesting part of the column for me was saying that Ole Miss is one of the biggest beneficiaries of the SEC weakening, not just the other conferences.
We lost one game and beat 3 playoff teams. Makes no sense.
I found that interesting too considering that yes Bama and Georgia arent as dominant as they used to be but Ole Miss got better in every way.
The Ole Miss vs Georgia game was a heavyweight bout. Just like Ole Miss vs Miami and Miami vs Ohio State. That side of the bracket was loaded with 4 legit teams.
The fact that Indiana v. Alabama drove such huge ratings means that popular brands that are on the bubble will always make it in.
It was The Rose Bowl. Aside from the NCG it’s always the highest rated.
It was also the current Cinderella vs the program that’s been the Death Star of the sport for most of the last 15 years. A lot of people were gleefully hate-watching the beatdown.
If bama is just a regular 8-4 to 9-3 team for a couple more years, the tide is going to change against them ratings-wise.
RIP-tide
As much as I love the rose bowl, no one even pay attention to what bowl the CFP games are being played at. It’s the teams playing.
Why didnt we make it last year? We were the first team out.
didn't you hear tho? Apparently bama has been getting some sort of mythical "benefit of the doubt" lol
That and that every other post on the sub right now is a discussion on the SEC. Sure, they’re all saying the same thing, but the conference is just as much in the spotlight as it’s always been, albeit for different reasons.
There’s always 1000x comments about people shitting on the SEC than there are people boasting about the SEC. It’s just how these things work.
In our defense brother we have been obnoxious for the past 15 years. We deserve it now that other schools pay players too now.
We had record setting CCG viewership too, sure you can say it was OSU and Bama but I think our numbers will be huge for Oregon and Miami too
The national media has been giving our team insane air time, especially in NYT, WSJ etc where maybe it’s not your typical CFB crowd
Even the blackhawks coach was talking about cignetti and how he was borrowing parts of how he coaches from him now lol
Just assume you guys are playing Miami? Bold!
Ya’ll talk about the SEC more than ESPN.
ESPN wouldn't be able to bring in enough viewership on their talk shows if people didn't hate watch it to complain about how much the SEC gets talked about.
It feels like the SEC was significantly better for a decade, that’s no longer the case, but instead of being just saying it’s no longer dominant and at this moment the Big 10 is better….people are deciding to only focus on the part of the SEC not longer being dominant. Talking heads do a helluva job making people angry it.
More like two decades, and now everyone is acting like that was all just a mirage conjured up by the media because of the past two seasons lol.
Also talking so much about benefit of the doubt, but Bama was the only team that you could even remotely argue got given benefit of the doubt. And was that about getting a 5th team in over ND, the literal golden child of the committee that is contractually given special treatment, or did they just not want to kill conference championship games?
Assuming Indiana or Oregon goes on to win, which I think they will, the Big Ten will almost certainly be given some benefit of the doubt moving forward until things change. Will anyone have an issue with that? I won't. It makes sense.
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Sec sux give updoot
“Humbling?” A team that lost their coach and half their coaching staff made it to the semifinals and played a nailbiter with like six lead changes. God damn people are DESPERATE to push this narrative.
I feel like people on this sub think most SEC fans are no different than the lunatics calling into Finebaum’s show, or SEC Network talking heads. In my experience, this is not the case, and people doing SEC chants were just casual fans to begin with.
That’s what I find funny. Everyone on this sub was rooting against the SEC but they don’t realize that the SEC roots hardest against other SEC teams.
I wonder if they actually believe we all sit in bars and chat SEC SEC SEC.
I was in the military surrounded by grads of various SEC schools at this time. There were a few (rocky top I see you) who were absolute haters of all other SEC teams above all. But I legit watched morons they wore red khaki pants year round as a fashion statement chant SEC and root for Tebow and Florida in the title game. They also assumed I’d root for UF too because of state pride or something. Between Ohio State and UF, I rooted for a terrorist event.
You're more likely to hear the SEC chant from fans of a school playing an SEC team than you are to hear it from fans of a team in the SEC.
You have made the classic mistake of associating Reddit with reality. The overwhelming majority of CFB fans aren’t on Reddit.
In fairness, they were the ones investing the time and money to attend bowl games.
So I’d say those fans are part of the core fan base.
It was fucking student sections doing it. And season ticket holders attending those bowl games. Unreal behavior that remains cringey and pathetic
SEC THIS SEC THAT
Dang can’t even focus on Miami or Indiana/Oregon this week. Damn. We get it the SEC sucks.
It’s important for them to really lean into the SEC sucks narrative, because if they don’t, we will get another over ranking issue next year. There is really no reason to believe that the SEC is all that much better than any other conference based off of these records. It was always Saban.
Not always Saban. Look at nfl draft demographics.
But that has all changed now and it won’t be as skewed going forward. Parity is here.
Even if you leave Saban out, the SEC has almost as many championships as every other conference combined since the BCS era (8 for the SEC to 10 of everyone else). The SEC also has had more schools than anyone else (Florida, LSU ,UGA, Auburn, Tennessee) even without Alabama. It wasn’t just a Saban thing although he certainly made it look more exaggerated.
This sub has two automatic front page headlines. Anti SEC and anti Kiffin.
Oh, you don't like hearing it ad nauseum? Interesting
The funniest part is when michigan flairs try to join the circlejerk. I can’t talk much shit because of my team obviously but that stuff is just absurd lol
The SEC ESPN CFP relationship sucks. We don't hate Georgia. I don't have any hate for individual teams in the SEC.
Reconsider
I enjoy good football.
I despise being told what good football is.
Both seasons of the expanded playoff, 9 of the top 10 teams by SOR got into the playoff along with 2 conference champion AQs from outside the top 10. For all the spectacle and whining, they’ve ended up straightforwardly taking the top resumes with only one exception each year.
In 2024, if all at-larges were selected purely by SOR, everything would have been the same except South Carolina would have been in over SMU. In 2025, going purely by SOR for all at-larges, all the same teams make it except BYU would have been in over Miami.
SOR has favored the sec playing 8 games for a while
Not really. The way SOR works, beating weak nonconference teams doesn’t help you. You rack up SOR points by winning games where there’s an appreciable chance of losing. Last season, SOR put more B1G teams into its pre-playoff top 10 than SEC teams.
And in any case the SEC is going to a 9 game schedule in 2026.
I’m not going to take too much from this game. OM put up a good fight despite losing their head coach and a ton of assistants.
Sure the SEC is over rated. But losing a close game in the CFP semi finals is not evidence of that.
Realistically the only SEC team that got humbled in the CFP was Alabama. Ole Miss certainly didn't get humbled last night, though the beginning of the game sure felt like it was going to be bad.
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Well it was pretty damn windy, which is why Miami also only scored 10. One dimensions offenses because neither could throw the ball with the wind.
In hindsight it was a mistake to play the hurricanes with high winds. It's their natural habitat where they thrive, but not a good environment for an aggie.
Lost a one score game that came down to a single play against a team who’s gonna play for the natty? In hindsight I’m pretty damn proud of how we did. Not saying Miamis win was “flukey” or that we would have gone on the same run they did, but if Reed makes that last throw, there’s a very good chance we win that game.
Yeah but you can say Miami got just as humbled. It was a defensive/mistake ridden slugfest, it’s not like Miami came in and had a field day
Miami is a good team with an excellent defense. Stop discrediting them.
I will agree that the SEC isn't what it once was. I've been one of the people here banging on that drum but to call last night's game a "humbling showing" is a bit much. That was a pretty damn good game even if the SEC team lost. There's nothing to be ashamed about that game.
That said, we all need to take off the "SEC IS DA BEST" glasses and realize the competition has caught up to them and that any reasonably good team in any of the P4 conferences can beat each other.
Folks reaaaallly want SEC team fans to be mad.
Like when they post the Civil War memes assuming that all, or even the majority of, southern residents are somehow mad about it.
Weird posts from non-SEC fans.
kansas fans have been doing this for decades. In fact, there were people insisting that you shouldn’t go to Columbia for the game this year because people from Missouri are evil savages. They also claimed that Columbia isn’t safe for black ku fans because of “racism”.
I didn't even think that Bama should be in the playoffs. The fact that we won a game (albeit against an SEC team) was a surprise. Getting beat by Indiana was expected. Getting absolutely manhandled and nearly shut out was...less expected.
Reddit hates the south and also just has a weird obsession with getting happy about people in southern states having their lives destroyed. The posts you’ll see when a hurricane is projected to hit florida are insane
Will never forget moving to New York and people saying "Oh thank goodness you got out of there!" When I asked them to explain what that meant, it was just thinly veiled xenophobia of the South.
Reddit was a pack of fucking ghouls about the 2021 freeze in Houston. And about the CenTex floods this past summer.
Absolutely disgusting.
Agreed.
The positive posts about dealing with winter cold were mostly drowned out by, “you get what you vote for” and “couldn’t happen to worse people” posts.
And the floods ticked me off. My wife’s longtime friend lost her daughter in the flood, and Reddit was right there to victim shame.
"Got what they voted for" Oh really? The dead children voted for a flood?
Then people would cite the voting stats for Kerr County like the kids weren't all there for camp from somewhere else and, in any event, deserved to die because their parents might have voted the wrong way.
Made me furious.
My favorite is their obsession with Sherman who was basically the American version of Oskar Dirlewanger:
It's because it's about more than football to most of them, at least on Reddit. They hate southerners, and assume they're all the most backward rednecks imaginable. It's ironic, because they're just projecting this weird idea of "regional pride" or whatever on the south, when that's unironically why a lot of them hate the SEC so much.
It's not just the SEC, and it's not just football or how southern teams have won lots of championships in the past couple decades. I know this because it happens in other sports. I can't tell you how many times I've seen OKC Thunder fans get education stats or stupid cousin/sister jokes quoted at them in /r/NBA. OKC just won its first championship.
There's a lot of posters here who are clearly leaning on SEC hate as an outlet for politics, which is bizarre when you jointly consider that football as a whole has a heavy conservative lean among players and coaches regardless of where they are AND that many of the southern schools they're shitting on are the hotbeds of leftward leaning ideology in the south to begin with.
Calling us confederates in every damn game thread while the university has done everything to remove all that imagery from the campus while I drive around the Midwest and see way more confederate flags flying than I ever did growing up in Mississippi.
Not just the university - the state of Mississippi changed the flag! And did a really good job!
Yet not credit given.
If this is gonna be the entire off season I think I might just mute the sub lmao
It’s so hilarious that they actually believe we all root for the SEC.
Humbling? Ole Miss played two lights out games. They were anything but humbled.
This space-filler of an article could have been copy-pasted from the stuff you see every year during March Madness after a conference that got 9 teams in the tournament has none of them advance to the final four.
Oh boy, another "the SEC is overrated" article!
How to make money
❌️ Work a blue collar job
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I’m not obsessed the SEC. Please don’t write I’m obsessed with the SEC.
“SEC bad” = infinite clicks/views glitch
The only teams that got humbled in the playoff were the G5 teams and Bama. Everyone other game was competitive. And I don't even think that the G5 teams were "humbled" since making the playoffs was a pretty solid showing in itself.
I’m starting to think that other conferences think Alabama = the entirety of the SEC. I know they were vicious overlords for a while but it’s just one school.
Fans of teams who went like 7-6 really need to shut up about how Ole Miss got “embarrassed” or “humbled”. We lost a close game to a really good team that just beat defending champion Ohio State as well. Somebody had to lose. It doesn’t mean we were fraudulent
I love how anyone thinks anything will change for the Big Ten or SEC because of a bad post season showing or two.
In almost every conceivable situation, any BIG or SEC team with 2 or less losses is in the CFB. I know that Vanderbilt didn't go this year, but unfortunately Vandy was slotted behind Texas, because of head to head, and Texas wasn't going because of 3 losses. Oh and conference championship games don't count.
Next year, if there are 5 two loss SEC teams, and there's a second place, 2 loss Big 12 or ACC team, the SEC will put all five in, before that Arizona State or Virginia Tech team gets in.
This playoff system is MADE for the SEC and BIG. They will benefit the most from it every single time.
This article is all over the place. He says the SEC is still the best in the sport but don’t give them the benefit of the doubt.
Says look at the results when selecting CFP teams.
Cool, let’s do that. The SEC was 6-4 vs the ACC and 2-1 against the Big 10 during the regular season.
If not the results during the season what should they use? Last years results with different players and coaches?
I’d love for these bowl games to kick off the season and have cross conference games like the NfL does.
It will never happen but should happen. It will be increasing difficult in the next few years to compare resumes when the SEC is going to 9 conference games.
ND's schedule was a joke and they don't play a championship game
I didn't think Bama was that good, but they deserved it over Notre Dame
I mean, maybe, just maybe, Miami is that good? Top teams in other conferences have always been top teams for the most part. Beating Ole Miss (Close game) defense of struggle, OSU (a whipping), and A&M (Close game) offense of struggle, doesnt mean the SEC is bad, but Miami is showing up to be a really damn good team despite their 2 losses. Honestly, the only team not to show any fight was the 2nd place team OSU from the BIG...ND loss by 1 score, TAMU by 1 score, and Ole Miss by 1 score...
Miami led Ohio State by 3 with a minute left in the game. Weird to say it was a whipping.
Look, I view the MAC and Big Ten West to be the pinnacle of college football. But I think all of us can fully acknowledge the following:
ESPN drives most college football coverage, and their alliance with the SEC leads to incredible conflicts of interest.
SEC media is unusually smug, and Sankey as the head of the SEC is off-puttingly smug
It's terribly enjoyable to watch the teams that get high on sniffing their own farts getting their comeuppance
But if we replace the SEC circle jerk with a Big Ten circle jerk, I think we will all be equally horrified. The new fart sniffers won't be better than the old fart sniffers.
The best team doesn’t have to come from the best conference.
I’m not even saying the SEC is the best conference, but citing close CFP losses and a 3 year drought in winning the championship is a just really poor argument.
LOL … I’ll believe it when I see it.
I mean I thought we did okay lol
Meanwhile the Big XII nearly left out Miami and notre dame to put two of its dogshit teams in the playoffs.
It’s not the fans, it’s the SEC’s commissioner that opened his stupid pie hole and claimed that the SEC was way better than every other conference.
Sure... But convince TV execs and AP/ committee voters of that
I don’t give a shit. Get rid of the conferences and have like 8 balanced divisions and let the winners of those into the playoff. It’s NFL-lite with the parity of the top 20 some odd programs and player movement now. The only people who are shouting S-E-C are folks not in the conference.
Ok then dont include us next year. IDK what to tell you. There are 9 conferences that make up the CFP Committee not named the SEC. Email your AD
No it hasn’t because it still gives ESPN money. As long as the SEC is tied to the ESPN books, they’re always gonna get preferential treatment.
Honestly I don’t see why non SEC schools don’t sue the clear conflict of interest
I dont see why non SEC conferences voted AGAIN to give ESPN the playoff rights
You'd think they could get more money by auctioning the CFP games off to multiple bidders like the NFL does
I mean. FSU had a possible case but went after their own conference instead
I will be the happiest man in the world when this obsession over the SEC and any conference in general goes away. Is this topic and anything related to it not exhausting?
It blows my mind that people can watch a game that good and compelling last night and immediately think “OMG YAY THE SEC LOST A GAME” as the first takeaway
People are just annoyed that 5 teams got put in and that several SEC teams were clearly over ranked all year (mostly talking about the mid tier teams here - which then in turn props up the top teams that beat them)
This year was particularly bad, so the haters are louder.
It's not all because "SEC". We've always had brand bias in CFB, and the SEC has a lot of big brands.
[On3] Vandy's Clark Lea tells @clowfb the 'silliness' of trying to make everybody happy has marred the College Football Playoff: “It is just absurd the idea that we’re going to open the door to teams that play in conferences that aren’t the SEC that have the same record we have. I mean, it’s crazy.”
The fact that everyone's so obsessed with this narrative is proof they'll keep getting the benefit...
1) please shut the fuck up, Ole Miss just did something extraordinary and Indiana is working on something even more wild. Enjoy the sport for the little bit longer we have. The SEC can wait for a few weeks to get your rent.
2) this is why the SEC was 'over-ranked'. Preseason rankings aren't unimportant, but pretending that's the only reason so many SEC were ranked is ignoring the reality of the season. Try beating them in OOC next year, that will help a lot.
But what about the other 9 out of 10 alternate realities where they won those games?
It’s pretty clear this year that the SEC was not up to their standards, and not the elite of college football, I don’t think that’s defensible. But I do think before we dance on the grave of SEC dominance we’ll need to see it for a few seasons l.
The concern for the SEC would be now that NIL has evened the playing field for talent, when the schools that make bank start becoming relevant and dominant, can they keep up? I personally think they will remain a top tier conference going back and forth with big ten mainly, but just pointing out the direction it could go.
Makes sense the committee keeps over ranking them with all the attention they get. Money talks.
f*** 'em both but 3 playoff wins is bad?
How did the SEC get humbled? 2/5 teams were eliminated by another SEC team, the other 2 lost to the same team by one score each. And then there’s Alabama, who in fairness was going up against the clear #1
Fuck lazy clickbait.
Not a single team in any other P4 conference would switch with say Kentucky and join the SEC.
Who watched that game and thought, “Ole Miss doesn’t deserve to be here”? If not for a missed PI call on the last play, Ole Miss MAY have won. I’m not saying they would have, but 15 yards closer to the end zone would have made it more likely.
I don't care if everyone else got humbled. I would say we exceeded expectations
They had the lead with 30 seconds left lmao how is this humbling?? Yeah some of the SEC teams got in just based on branding but come on
On top of bowl season performance. Can't complain about opt outs when the other teams also had their fair share of opt outs.
Ultimately we need more teams in playoff, the bye week should be replaced with 2 more opening round games. I forgot the official ranking but imagine throwing ND, Vandy, Texas and BYU into this mix. I know Vandy lost but maybe Stowers doesnt opt out if they play in CFP. Could also make case for Utah
Humbling? Those guys played their hearts out and it was a damn good game. You could definitely point to other SEC losses and call them "humbling" but brother this ain't one.
I say this as a general CFB fan with zero skin in the game.
We’re a basketball conference now.
Ole Miss was fun to watch.
Oh yeah cuz a semifinal appearance is no big deal. Making the final 4 is easy. Yea that's a sound statement. /s
Who fucking cares? I dont give a fuck about how my team's conference or any other conference does. I care about my team. Every post on this shitty sub lately is about how a conference is overrated and the same lame ass comments that everyone has read a hundred times.
Rebels run reminded me of their baseball team’s run to the baseball ship a few years ago.
Kiffin leaving was the best thing that could have happened to them. He would have coached scared and lost to Kirby.
This is the shittiest conclusion you could make with the SEC still putting in 4 teams. Not winning the whole thing is "A" metric anf not "The" metric.
All things considered with Ole Miss’ program, they were anything but humbled in this playoff
They did better than the vaunted Ohio state Buckeyes did