He's looking good so far, but the eggs haven't hatched yet.
Last I looked, he's up by eleven votes from last year on known ballots. Last year, he missed the Hall by 35 votes. While the number of voters may fluctuate, it stands to reason the Andruw still needs about 24 people to change their minds.
I'm pulling hard for Andruw. That's a mainstay of my childhood team! I do think this is his year, but it's not over yet.
Not necessarily, there has been a huge influx of first time voters this year; so they may be able to carry him over the 75% without having older voters come around on the best defensive center fielder of all time.
I believe he's the third greatest overall CF of all time, and the two guys above him (Mays and Trout) are firmly in the GOAT baseball player debate. It is long past time for him to be recognized for how awesome he was on the diamond.
Mickey is one of the greatest what ifs in all of sports, the dude had all the talent and athleticism to be the greatest. But tearing your ACL in the 50's meant he was never going to be everything he could have been.
He's still the second greatest switch hitter of all time. Probably get down voted for that last sentence, but that's my baseball hill that I'm willing to die on.
Most historians would tell you that we need 20+ years for events to pass from current events to history because we need that distance to get some objectivity. Of course the Hall doesn’t work that way. They try to use writers who covered the players. They don’t do distance and objectivity well. In Andruw’s case, many look at his fall off in LA and don’t weigh it properly against his lengthy success. Newer voters are voting for Andruw at about a 90% clip if I remember from right from looking last week.
I think the biggest thing is when Andruw first came on the ballot you still had guys who voted who didn't even cover baseball anymore. They have been purging those type of voters over the years and every year newer guys get to vote who likely were covering baseball when Andruw was at the height of his ability or more into the advanced metrics that show he should be in. That combo has really pushed his vote total up.
Some Baseball writers won’t vote for a player (ie Greg Maddux) because they played in the 90s and might have taken steroids. But Carlos Beltran, who was an integral part of the biggest cheating scandal since the Black Sox scandal. And he’s got 88% of the vote so far? This guy was the ONLY player named in Manfred's report. He was the ring leader.
These nerds who write for baseball should not be the ones voting for HOFers
Seems ridiculous to me that AJ didn’t get voted in his first or second year of eligibility. The BBWA voters who didn’t vote for him are basing their decision solely on the rapid decline he experienced from 2007-12. Playing CF can do that, man. Not to mention his own personal decline.
How Beltran is getting in quicker than Andrew and at a high percentage is wild to me. They are basically the same player except one of them is largely considered a top 5 defender at the position.
Also, I’m still upset Dale Murphy hasn’t been inducted yet. That is a crime
Dale isn't getting in, he had a very low "yes" votes by the cotemporary baseball committee or whatever they renamed it. This was his 4th? time on that ballot. Time is running out.
You know they add names to this list? It's not the same ones every year. New rule in 2025 states less than 5 votes gets you on "probation" and a second time dropped off the ballot completely. He had 6 this year. These rules were implemented for the steroid era. There was no reason to keep them on the ballots forever if they were never going to get in.
Yes but it’s still easier cause now nearly every deserving player from the ballot gets in on their 10th year and some of the older players are gonna be moved to the classic ballot committee
Maybe this is my casual side showing. but how is King Hernandez and Dustin Pedroia struggling to get votes. I remember and maybe I am misremembering but wasn't Dustin one of the best 5-tool players the league has had?
Pedroia just doesn't have the longevity/injuries derailed him.
Felix probably gets in eventually (going to go from 20% his first year to ~57%) because his peak was so good but is being dragged down by his career numbers not being "HOF worthy"
If he doesn’t get in this year with somewhere between 70-74.9% then he almost certainly will on his last ballot next year. Guys typically get a strong boost near the end of their candidacy with a large bump coming in their final year. Also people who voted for him in the past are highly unlikely to take that vote back since they’ve already decided he’s a HOFer in their eyes.
Every year I’ve seen more and more Andruw propaganda being spread in baseball talking circles. Look, he definitely will be in a lower tier of HOF guys but it’s really this simple: he is the best defensive CF of all time, as said by Willie Mays himself, and he had an elite near decade stretch offensively which netted him over 400 HRs total.
If you wanna look a little deeper, his WAR7 (best 7 year stretch) is 9th all time among CFs. The only one ahead of him that is not in the HOF is Mike Trout who is a 90%+ guy on the first ballot. Some of the others ahead of him are; Willis Mays, Ty Cobb, Tris Speaker, Mickey Mantle, Griffey Jr, Duke Snider and Joe DiMaggio. That’s literally it. At his peak he was among the best to ever play the game, he’s just being hurt because his body broke down after the years of abuse he put it thru in CF and didn’t quite have the longevity to make him a no doubter.
I am familiar with andruw’s HOF case trust me. I’ve never been a big hall guy and at his peak he was obviously at that caliber. But the productive years were simply too short. HOF matters more if we keep the standards strict
He's looking good so far, but the eggs haven't hatched yet.
Last I looked, he's up by eleven votes from last year on known ballots. Last year, he missed the Hall by 35 votes. While the number of voters may fluctuate, it stands to reason the Andruw still needs about 24 people to change their minds.
I'm pulling hard for Andruw. That's a mainstay of my childhood team! I do think this is his year, but it's not over yet.
Not necessarily, there has been a huge influx of first time voters this year; so they may be able to carry him over the 75% without having older voters come around on the best defensive center fielder of all time.
I believe he's the third greatest overall CF of all time, and the two guys above him (Mays and Trout) are firmly in the GOAT baseball player debate. It is long past time for him to be recognized for how awesome he was on the diamond.
Ken Griffey Jr would like a word with you…
As would Mickey Mantle.
Mickey is one of the greatest what ifs in all of sports, the dude had all the talent and athleticism to be the greatest. But tearing your ACL in the 50's meant he was never going to be everything he could have been.
He's still the second greatest switch hitter of all time. Probably get down voted for that last sentence, but that's my baseball hill that I'm willing to die on.
In this house Chipper is the best switch hitter, end of story
Fair enough, I think Andruw was better overall, but I'm also willing to concede that's my own bias towards my childhood hero.
You can’t ignore new ballots which there is a lot this year
It’s criminal he isn’t already in. Please make this right HOF voters.
Don’t vote for Andruw? Believe it or not, jail.
I don’t understand how time really affects his worthiness. The greatest defensive CF of all time and over 400 HRs. Just put him in the hall already
Most historians would tell you that we need 20+ years for events to pass from current events to history because we need that distance to get some objectivity. Of course the Hall doesn’t work that way. They try to use writers who covered the players. They don’t do distance and objectivity well. In Andruw’s case, many look at his fall off in LA and don’t weigh it properly against his lengthy success. Newer voters are voting for Andruw at about a 90% clip if I remember from right from looking last week.
Yeah, the tweet I saw the other day said of the 33 public ballots from first time voters only 2 haven't voted for Andruw.
2 guys don’t know ball
I think the biggest thing is when Andruw first came on the ballot you still had guys who voted who didn't even cover baseball anymore. They have been purging those type of voters over the years and every year newer guys get to vote who likely were covering baseball when Andruw was at the height of his ability or more into the advanced metrics that show he should be in. That combo has really pushed his vote total up.
Some Baseball writers won’t vote for a player (ie Greg Maddux) because they played in the 90s and might have taken steroids. But Carlos Beltran, who was an integral part of the biggest cheating scandal since the Black Sox scandal. And he’s got 88% of the vote so far? This guy was the ONLY player named in Manfred's report. He was the ring leader.
These nerds who write for baseball should not be the ones voting for HOFers
Yeah Beltran getting in really tells me just how pointless the HoF is.
Andruw Jones was so good
Private ballots should not be allowed.
Seems ridiculous to me that AJ didn’t get voted in his first or second year of eligibility. The BBWA voters who didn’t vote for him are basing their decision solely on the rapid decline he experienced from 2007-12. Playing CF can do that, man. Not to mention his own personal decline.
That being said… how can anyone bypass:
10x Gold Gloves
5x All Star
400+ HR
1,200+ RBI
150+ SB
.992 FP
24.4 dWAR (most by any outfielder in history)
Wasn't Beltran part of the 2017 Astro's cheating scandal? I'm surprised he's got so many votes.
Yep and not a single voter who has posted their ballot on X will address why they overlooked it.
Yep
How Beltran is getting in quicker than Andrew and at a high percentage is wild to me. They are basically the same player except one of them is largely considered a top 5 defender at the position.
Also, I’m still upset Dale Murphy hasn’t been inducted yet. That is a crime
Dale isn't getting in, he had a very low "yes" votes by the cotemporary baseball committee or whatever they renamed it. This was his 4th? time on that ballot. Time is running out.
It is and it’s disgusting. If he was a Yankee or Red Sox, he would have gotten in 20 years ago
Time isn’t running out if anything it gets easier for him to get in on the committee because less competition each cycle
You know they add names to this list? It's not the same ones every year. New rule in 2025 states less than 5 votes gets you on "probation" and a second time dropped off the ballot completely. He had 6 this year. These rules were implemented for the steroid era. There was no reason to keep them on the ballots forever if they were never going to get in.
Yes but it’s still easier cause now nearly every deserving player from the ballot gets in on their 10th year and some of the older players are gonna be moved to the classic ballot committee
Dale’s Career Resume, just for openness:
7× All-Star (1980, 1982–1987)
2× NL MVP (1982, 1983)
5× Gold Glove Award (1982–1986)
4× Silver Slugger Award (1982–1985)
Roberto Clemente Award (1988)
2× NL home run leader (1984, 1985)
2× NL RBI leader (1982, 1983)
Atlanta Braves No. 3 retired
Braves Hall of Fame
When are ballots due?
They have already been submitted. The official result gets announced on the 20th.
Maybe this is my casual side showing. but how is King Hernandez and Dustin Pedroia struggling to get votes. I remember and maybe I am misremembering but wasn't Dustin one of the best 5-tool players the league has had?
Pedroia just doesn't have the longevity/injuries derailed him.
Felix probably gets in eventually (going to go from 20% his first year to ~57%) because his peak was so good but is being dragged down by his career numbers not being "HOF worthy"
Old heads don’t like the lack of milestone counting stats, new school voters probably see a lack of career WAR despite impressive peaks.
Would basically have to be below 70% on the roughly 250 remaining ballots to not make it. And Beltran below 67%. looks good
This is encouraging, but typically the final vote is lower than what the public ballots show. Hopefully the momentum continues for Andruw!
I still think there’s no shot. If I wasn’t a braves fan I wouldn’t vote for him. Still I hope he gets it go Andruw and go braves
If he doesn’t get in this year with somewhere between 70-74.9% then he almost certainly will on his last ballot next year. Guys typically get a strong boost near the end of their candidacy with a large bump coming in their final year. Also people who voted for him in the past are highly unlikely to take that vote back since they’ve already decided he’s a HOFer in their eyes.
Every year I’ve seen more and more Andruw propaganda being spread in baseball talking circles. Look, he definitely will be in a lower tier of HOF guys but it’s really this simple: he is the best defensive CF of all time, as said by Willie Mays himself, and he had an elite near decade stretch offensively which netted him over 400 HRs total.
If you wanna look a little deeper, his WAR7 (best 7 year stretch) is 9th all time among CFs. The only one ahead of him that is not in the HOF is Mike Trout who is a 90%+ guy on the first ballot. Some of the others ahead of him are; Willis Mays, Ty Cobb, Tris Speaker, Mickey Mantle, Griffey Jr, Duke Snider and Joe DiMaggio. That’s literally it. At his peak he was among the best to ever play the game, he’s just being hurt because his body broke down after the years of abuse he put it thru in CF and didn’t quite have the longevity to make him a no doubter.
I am familiar with andruw’s HOF case trust me. I’ve never been a big hall guy and at his peak he was obviously at that caliber. But the productive years were simply too short. HOF matters more if we keep the standards strict
This sub really is 99% brain dead homers huh