• SAVEWILEY

    The broadcast crew isn’t going to change.

    It damn well may. I don’t see how you can be so sure it won’t

    None of the broadcast teams that have switched from FanDuel to MLB Media have changed. The broadcasters aren’t employees of FanDuel or Main Street, they’re freelancers and the team will ask them to continue in the same capacity.

    Bro freewiley was right there.

    But I don't want to free him, I want him to stay here with us forever!

    He will still be around in general the broadcast crew is one of the most loved in MLB so they won’t get rid of them unless there’s some major misconduct by them

    All this will mean is new “title sponsor”

    Will be no negative affect for fans, if anything will be positive

    No, this isn’t a title sponsor issue (Fan Duel). It’s the underlying company, Main Street Sports, formerly Diamond Sports Group.

    The deal could be reworked and Braves could stay on the channel, or a number of different possibilities, like controlling their own tv broadcasts through MLB. But this isn’t like Bally to Fan Dual when the company stayed the same and the sponsor changed. This is the underlying ownership.

    I'm not sold on there being no negative effect. I just don't trust them. I do hope you're right!

    I’m good.

  • I don’t have the athletic. What’s the reason for doing this? I haven’t heard anything about this

    Yeah sorry about the paywall. It wasn’t pay walled when I opened it in my browser but for some reason is when I opened through the Reddit app.

    Basically because the network is broke and trying to renegotiate contracts. MLB says they are prepared to take over production and streaming.

    The network owned by a sports gambling company is broke? Oh the fucking irony.

    It’s not owned by them. It’s a licensing agreement. The networks are owned by a media company.

    Aren't the Braves owned be a media company (Liberty Media)... Sounds like an opportunity to me

    I don’t believe they actually own any tv channels at the moment.

    Publicly traded does not mean not owned by anyone.

    Like, the 2 aren't even remotely conflated.

    It was a poor way to phrase it, but they are not a subsidiary of Liberty Media anymore. When Liberty spun the Braves out, they spun their shares of the Braves directly to Liberty shareholders, they didn't keep the shares internally.

    They're like 49% controlled by John Malone (and if I read the proxy correctly, Terry McGuirk has the right to vote all of Malone's shares), but that's now through direct stock ownership instead of it being a subsidiary/holding of Liberty Media. Braves Holding explicitly calls out on their website that Liberty Media is now a separate company (see last FAQ https://www.bravesholdings.com/investors/stock-data/faq )

    https://www.libertymedia.com/investors/news-events/press-releases/detail/502/liberty-media-corporation-completes-split-off-of-atlanta

    Liberty is the majority owner of ABH.

    Still hilarious.

    Except it will probably end up costing fans more to watch games.

    The reason they are bankrupt is because the teams want max money from their media rights. If the FanDuel networks go away, that money has to come from somewhere. So it will come from streaming and therefore will be paid by fans.

    This doesn’t sound hilarious at all.

    The one upside is that they will be cutting out a middleman, so they can afford to charge a little less and still make the same amount of money themselves

    Also, on the consumer side, you can now just buy the Braves. With Fanduel Sports Network, you were paying rights fees for the Hawks, Braves, and one of two (or both) NHL teams. You couldn't buy just the Braves games from FSN if you didn't care about hockey and basketball

    To get both channels of FSN is $30 a month in the bundle or to get both FS South and FS Southeast was $60 each for the season ($120/season).

    The MLB-produced in-market package for the Padres was only $20 a month, or $100 a season, and if you were already buying MLB.tv yearly, it was only a $50 a year upcharge to add the local in-market package for San Diego

    The other wrench in the works is that in 2027, ESPN has the rights to the teams that MLB has the rights for. It's not entirely clear if ESPN will charge extra for this or if it'll just be rolled into the ESPN app

    Thank god for crackstreams if this is the case

    Yep last year was actually great.

    Disagree. I get Fanduel networks as part of my TV package. Hornets and Canes are part of Fanduel network. This is just straight up losing access to Braves games for a lot of people, unless we now pay for whatever additional service gets the rights

    I've never had any issue with Fanduel and I dont know why anyone else pretends to. They've been fine for me. The prices outside TV packages for their yearly or seasonal packages are pretty fair too. The product itself is fine too

    People act like they have beef with them purely because the name is also a sports betting company. They have no actual beef though

    I use them for the Canes and it’s worked great for me too. $20 a month is nothing nowadays. Sucks that the Braves are not included where I live. I have to get mlbtv each year.

    Well, cable is extremely expensive so a lot of people are cancelling cable. That's the whole reason we're in this situation, and why Fanduel Sports Network is going under. That's got nothing to do with gambling. And, most of the people cancelling cable aren't watching baseball games. That's why the streaming model isn't working, either, because every single person who buys cable pays a little bit into the RSN, whether they watch or care about baseball or not

    My problem with buying direct is the price is inflated because you can't buy just the Braves games. The price is inflated about $10 a month over what other MLB-produced local packages are, because Fanduel is also paying the Hawks and two hockey teams

    Also, I don't know if you've ever used MLB.tv but it is a much better user experience than the Fanduel streaming site. A lot more features, and it's all integrated with the rest of the MLB ecosystem. I'd begrudgingly pay Fanduel's 50% inflated pricing if I could access the games on MLB.tv instead of the garbage fanduel app, which yes, I do not need or care about gambling so I don't want it to be the focal point or shoved in my face every time I turn around

    An agreement meant to ensure they were able to pay the bills on time too. Imagine losing that gamble.

    they're well on their way to bankruptcy and if i remember correctly are behind on payments

    More money with news contracts

    Any idea who’s going to take over? Does this mean we lose Brandan, cj, and Wiley?

    Aren’t they employees of the organization and not FD?

    I thought they were fan duel employees but I could be totally wrong. I don’t really know what I’m talking about

    At this point who knows. I agree though, we can’t lose anyone on the current broadcast team. They make even the most unbearable games watchable.

    I’m pretty sure they are FDSN employees, but presumably their contract is specifically for FDSN’s coverage of the Braves. If the network no longer covers the Braves, I’d assume that they wouldn’t still remain at the network since that’s their sole job there.

    In most cases, sports tv broadcast crews are employed by the network. I’d assume that’s the case here (case in point, Charlotte Hornets PxP man Eric Collins is employed by FDSN)

    Missed payments to multiple teams. Teams may renegotiate but this gives them leverage and flexibility.

    Use reader mode and you can bypass it.

    Missing payments 

    If you're using chrome go to more tools > reading mode. Works for most paywalls.

    Looks like the rats are jumping off the sinking ship. FanDuel is nearing bankruptcy and things would get much harder for teams if they do go under. They could renegotiate later if FD doesn't end up bankrupt.

    FanDuel is not nearing bankruptcy. Main Street Sports is. FanDuel just pays them to name the channel that.

    Just like the Braves own Truist Park, not Truist Bank. They just pay the Braves to call it that.

  • Fucking finally.

    Don’t get your hopes up to early. They did the same thing when they entered bankruptcy when they were still known as FanDuel Sports South.

    This is not correct. They entered the last bankruptcy while they were sponsored by Ballys, and were called Bally Sports Network, and the company was Diamond Sports Group

    Diamond went into bankruptcy and dumped a few teams, and those teams went to MLB.tv for local streaming, or in some cases local broadcast TV stations. They never canceled their contract with the Braves

    The fact that the Braves contract is now cancelled means Fanduel will no longer carry the games. There's no going back, this isn't a ploy during bankruptcy, this is final

  • The nine Major League Baseball teams televised by FanDuel Sport Network have terminated their contracts with FanDuel SN and its struggling parent company, Main Street Sports Group, two people briefed on the contracts told The Athletic.

    Termination of the deals does not preclude those teams — the Atlanta Braves, Cincinnati Reds, Detroit Tigers, Kansas City Royals, Los Angeles Angels, Miami Marlins, Milwaukee Brewers, St. Louis Cardinals and Tampa Bay Rays — from returning on renegotiated agreements. When Main Street was in bankruptcy from 2023-25 (and known at the time as Diamond Sports Group), deals were terminated but ultimately reworked.

    “We remain in active dialogue with all of our team partners regarding potential revised terms for agreements going forward,” Main Street said in a statement Thursday.

    By exiting their existing contracts, the MLB teams are attempting to safeguard themselves from the possibility Main Street files for bankruptcy, which would limit how clubs that hold contracts with Main Street could maneuver.

    Major League Baseball commissioner Rob Manfred told reporters Thursday in New York that the league is in position to take over the broadcasts of any teams if needed, and that the goal is to maximize revenue.

    “Our focus, particularly given the point in the calendar, is to maximize the revenue that’s available to the clubs, whether that’s MLB Media or third party,” Manfred said, per the Associated Press. “The clubs have control over the timing. They can make a decision to move to MLB Media because of the contractual status now. I think that what’s happening right now clubs are evaluating their alternatives. Obviously, they’ve made significant payroll commitments already and they’re evaluating the alternatives to find the best revenue source for the year and the best outlet in terms of providing quality broadcasts to their fans.”

    MLB declined additional comment.

    Barry Jackson reported in the Miami Herald on Thursday that Main Street missed a payment to the Marlins. Main Street was known to have missed a payment to the Cardinals last month. A person briefed on FanDuel SN’s contracts confirmed that multiple MLB teams have not received scheduled payments.

    Sports Business Journal reported that Fubo has emerged as a contender to buy Main Street. Main Street has been in talks with DAZN, but that deal seems a long shot, SBJ reported.

  • Bring back TBS.

    TBS is such a staple of basic TV packages… make every game nationally televised!

  • I am so sick of doing this shit every year just to watch the Braves.

    Braves back to TBS would be huge

  • If I have to buy another streaming service I’m going to lose it

    I am hoping it can be watched through MLB Tv.

    This would be the best outcome for fans IMO.

    On paper yeah. Reality is, the team loses a ton of money from that. They made 80 million off the TV deal last year. How many $25/month subscriptions do they have to sell to match that?

    Plus the MLB app has a lot of relevant content for baseball fans in the app compared to the Fanduel app IMO, including Braves minor league games and condensed games for all teams. I think mlb could upsell a lot of RSN users to a full MLB.tv package.

    How long is T-Mobile contracted with MLBtv? That’s the best perk of being with them IMO.

    It probably won't be included in that package, I think the local deal for the teams already on MLB.tv as their local outlet have a separate add-on. It's not an unreasonable price but it's also not just free with MLB.tv

    This is exactly what is going to happen, and is what they did for the other teams that already were dumped by Main Street/Diamond. There will be a special local-only package in MLB.tv inside the Braves broadcast area

    This is exactly right. For those teams whose local broadcasts were produced by MLB.tv, it was $20 per month and somewhere between around $70 and $120 for the season

    which even at the high end, is cheaper than Fanduel which was $30/mo or $180 for a season

    FanDuel was $20/mo

    Do you get all of the games if you just subscribe to Fanduel South or just Fanduel Southeast?

    On TV, Braves games are split across both of those channels, and they offer them for sale separately on the Fanduel website. There is a South/Southeast bundle you can get for $30. I didn't subscribe, but just assumed that since they were split across the two on regular TV and they had the two separate packages online that the split carried over

    I got all the games for the $20 option.

    The $100 package you could add onto Amazon this year was great. Hopefully they keep that up

    Remember when every braves game was free over antenna? I member.

    I mean that would obviously be the ideal way to watch the Braves but we’ve been locked into expensive ass cable subs ever since that time so the $100 package is a huge improvement.

    My dad loved getting on the roof to fix the TV.

    Yeah I liked that.

    Yeah I got the Hawks Braves package on prime for 80 something $ ....will i get a refund?

    I got it for $99 direct without having to go through Amazon. It was great for the season. They were planning on going up this year though so I was not sure what I was going to do about it. We will see now.

    Ah yea I figured the price may be too good to be true and was probably going up.

    I don’t even have prime or anything I just went through Amazon because I figured their app is going to be available on more devices than the FanDuel one.

    Manfred said it himself, "league is in position to take over the broadcasts of any teams if needed, and that the goal is to maximize revenue."
    We're going to end up needing 4-5 streaming services to watch all the games.

    I came here to say this lol

  • This was a good reminder. Make sure you cancel Fanduel so it doesn’t auto renew if you got it through amazon last year!

    You just saved me $122.99¡ Thank you

  • So shocking that they couldn't recover from their first bankruptcy...

  • 🤞

    Please just be on mlb.tv in market.

  • Ok but what happens to Brandon?

    He’s a treasure, and must be protected at any cost!

  • RSNs did this to themselves. Streaming exposed how fake the old pricing model has been.

  • As long as the games are on TV is all I care about. I decided at the end of this past season, I'm done with MLB.tv and going back to pirating games.

  • They should partner with Gray Media/ch .17 to help distribute/produce games locally. Then offer a blackout-free $20/month streaming package for anyone who wants it.

  • My dream scenario: Get all the games blackout free on MLBtv or whatever streaming solution there will be directly with MLB. Sell the rights to simulcast non-national exclusives to Gray for the full season rather than just 15 games like last year.

  • Guess I can go back to youtube tv now

  • So now what? I was happy for fan duel because at least I could watch the games.

    I believe went the padres got dropped from their deal you could watch them on MLB tv without blackouts (as long as you bought a subscription which already lets you access every other team’s broadcast).

  • Following-how to watch

  • Being out of market, this doesn't really affect me as I simply buy the MLB.tv annual subscription anyway.

    I feel for all of you "in-market." While I know that something will come together for local broadcasts, the uncertainty of it really sux.

  • I get people are happy because FDSN sucks..but that’s also a large chunk of our revenue we won’t see now

    Assuming we will recoup some but the contract will be far less if MLB is at the wheel

    Revenue is not an issue if AA is never allowed to spend anyway

    We’ve done a good amount of spending this offseason. Don’t get me wrong it was out of necessity but I hope this doesn’t affect their ability to go add more arms.

  • There will be no blackouts since no local distributor.

  • FINALLY. excited to see what's next, it can not be worse than the fanduel experience these past few years.

  • Super hopeful this means I can cut the cord and subscribe to MLB.tv to get all the games with no blackouts this season.... That would be amazing.

  • It’s super easy to find ways to watch the games regardless of who the provider is so I’m not worried about that. But if we lose anyone from our broadcast crew for some reason I’m gonna be HURT. I love those guys. Doesn’t seem like we will but man that would suck

  • Just want a service that doesn't have blackout games.

  • So why can’t we be like the dodgers and get our own network?

    Because they went into real estate development (The Battery) instead of media mogul as their side gig

    The truth, though, is that starting a channel is a LOT of money. Even the Yankees and Dodgers don't fully own their channels, they're partly owned by the local cable company (Charter in LA) or others (Amazon is a partner in YES at this point). Those teams have a pretty big national following that will pay for those channels outside of the footprint, and also have a huge population in footprint paying for cable

    And don't think those channels aren't feeling pressure, they aren't making the money they used to

    "Those teams have a pretty big national following"

    This is the sub for the Braves, right? Did you say National following? Come on man the Braves aren't the Twins we are America's team.

    I'm not taking away from your other points, but to act like the Braves aren't a National brand is crazy. If you ask Joe on the street to name 5 MLB teams he names Yankees Dodgers Cubs Braves and then can't think of a 5th.

    But we have Xfinity!

    Liberty media dude we are not realeste company Also gray media 

  • Fuck gambling

    FanDuel just has the naming rights. Bally is also a casino

    nothing about this has anything to do with gambling

  • I was happy with fanduel through Amazon. I paid $75/yr to watch almost every braves and Hawks game. I was happy to pay the $120 without the discount. Ill be interested in what's the next thing they come up with to watch games.

  • As long as we still have Brandon I’m happy!

  • Come on apple tv. This may be unpopular opinion but I love apple tv cus I can put Ben on my tv with 2 clicks of a button

    I did enjoy having the radio feed on the Apple TV broadcasts. Plus the video quality was amazing. Sad to see that go.

    They’ve done a great job with MLS. No blackouts at all. 

  • Here’s Gray Media’s chance to jump in!

  • What does this mean for us? Do we have any other options? Why are they making me worry about this? My anxiety is shooting through the roof.

  • Will mlb tv still be free on t mobile? Thats how I watched in Orlando. I see espn owns it now so that concerns me. Thought/hoped espn was done with baseball

  • Each team should just have their own streaming service. Watching baseball has become way harder than it should be.

    Last year was the easiest to watch baseball in the history of baseball.

    You obviously dont know about the TBS days.

    I grew up on Braves on TBS. That was the easiest time to watch Braves games. The commenter I replied to said baseball games. You couldn’t watch the Mariners games back in the TBS days for example. Last year with MLB.TV and Braves FanDuel you could watch literally every baseball game in the country.