For anyone who was brought up by Boomers, you've probably lived under the infamous 'my house, my rules' law. "You can do X when you have your own house." Maybe it made sense at the time (or maybe it felt as flimsy as "because I'm your parent, that's why!").

So now, very many years later, they're visiting my house for the holidays. But somehow the law has become 'your house, my rules'.

Because they're old and pretty much 100% set in their ways, everything has to be done their way, or it's chaos that they can't deal with. Because they're old, they can only live with their rules - they simply can't adapt to anyone else's way of doing things.

A very partial list already:

  • Be quiet at night, they go to bed early and can't abide noise at night
  • They wake up early, sorry if they're loud, that's just how they wake up
  • Give them an hour to gather their wits after waking up - give them space because it takes a while to wake up at their age.
  • But immediate needs ("where's the honey, we can't find the honey") the second that you wake up.
  • Bathroom doors are open when unoccupied in my house, but they insist that the doors now need to be closed all the time
  • Toilet paper rolls are flipped around
  • The heat must be on 24/7, because they have literally one degree of comfort zone now
  • The dog insists on sleeping in their guest room when it's empty - they insist on not having the dog sleep in there with them, so now the dog complains all night
  • "My house, my rules, remember? Adapt or leave".

    It IS really that simple (for me, at least).

    I plan on doing this with my in-laws when/if they visit. My fil is very much a "respect people's houses" person to everyone else in the world, but with my wife it's "everything of yours is ours" along with all the other abuse. I plan on holding him to the same standards that he wants to hold us to... and since he doesn't believe i don't follow my old religion anymore I'm holding him to that standard... and since he was raised catholic and is on his second marriage I don't recognize his divorce and he can't share a bed with his current wife. He's also very "my rules are the only ones worth following" so I'm going to be highly aggressive on the "respect the hosts rules" thing... because if he can't follow his own rules then he will follow ours, and if he can't then there's no reason for him to be around us. My wife also agrees because she's sick of him acting like he's the overall authority of everyone in the universe.

    Just get them a hotel room. Save all the drama.

    But it sounds like he's looking forward to the chaos. Would you deprive him of that?

    He's actively disliked me since he met me, and has intentionally misunderstood things about me to have more things to dislike. He gets upset when people misunderstand him and don't ask follow up questions when they don't understand what he's said, but when he misunderstands he just makes up reasons why he's still in the right.

    Last big one was the fact that I worked graveyard weekend shifts totaling full time hours, then during the week I did full time school. My wife mentioned to them that she wishes I was able to do a bit more around the house (as in spend time relaxing), but she understood that I already did more in a week than most others. He took that as I'm doing absolutely nothing around the house and making her do everything. So he tried to stage an intervention with her that I'm just trying to take advantage of her. When she found out she called and read him the riot act. Pointed out that I did full time work and school, took care of all the house maintenance, yard stuff, vehicle maintenance, extra pet care, and made meals while she worked full time at the hospital and was fully drained each day. She pointed out that he just assumed I did nothing and actively ignored what she actually said, and that I ended up having a mental breakdown earlier because I was doing 200% of what I needed to do and that I hadn't had a break in years because when I was in the army I was the go to guy for everything and everyone. He apologized to her, but she told him that he needs to apologize to me since he's had it out for me since day one and that he's never made an effort to get to know me unless he was reprimanded for being an asshole for no reason. It's been almost a year, he has my number, and not once made an attempt to apologize.

    So yeah, I'm looking forward to the chaos.

    I don't understand why he's even invited to stay, but hopefully he balks and decides he doesn't want to after you put your foot down. Is that your intent anyway?

    The intent is another step in stopping him from interfering in our lives. My end goal is to get him to fully remove himself from our lives, while also ensuring that he won't remove my wife from the will because he always favored her sister, and made excuses for why she should get all the help possible... even though she routinely makes horrible financial decisions and has left them in bad situations because of her actions. But even my wife has said that if she gets removed from the will because she and I set boundaries she's OK with that.

    From the sounds of it, are you sure she hasn't been removed already?

    Dude you need to set him up to fail instead. I once ruined my former in-laws favorite holiday under the guise of supporting my ex's health and they had zero recourse but to support me, even doing so enthusiastically until they were eating the food. I never got stuck with another holiday again.

    Wait, you're former Army and he wants to send chaos toward you? Look, I've got some military buddies, and know full well what kind of shenanigans happen for "fun" with you all. I can't even imagine what kind of wild shit might happen if you dislike someone.

    Just make sure you don't break the law. Boomers cry easily.

    Oh I don't have to worry about breaking the law... he's also admitted that he ran drugs across the border. I was known in the army for holding to regulations when needed, but knowing when to break them for a good purpose. He tries anything he'll be in prison for the rest of his life. I have dirt on him that he doesn't know I have.

    Seriously I'd have my popcorn ready

    They can get themselves a hotel room

    Just tell them to get them a hotel room.

    FTFY

    I would very much enjoy drinking a few dozen beer with you. I like your style.

    Please report back with the fireworks

    I am onboard with all this pettiness. Please report back with how it's going

    My way or the highway.

    Life is too short to allow someone else to dictate how you live it. We all only get the one.
    They don’t like your household rules? There’s the door, don’t let it hit you on the ass on your way out.

    “You guys can sleep in the car”

    Same. And it has worked. And it’s right up there with “my house is not a democracy”. Because it’s not—you fuck with my kids or animals, or demand that the beings that live here change normal and inoffensive behavior, you can GTFOH.

    This. Too much of this sub is people whining that older generations don't respect them, but they won't firmly state what they want to the people they actually want it from. It's maddening. Yes rude boomers or rude any generation sucks, but if you are going to go complain on reddit rather than have a potentially difficult and unpleasant stating of your boundaries, your not going to get anywhere.

    Yeah abiding by their behavior is their choice. 

  • You’re describing preschoolers.

    This sounds so frustrating.

    I literally chuckled and said "sounds like [daughter]" as I was reading this 😂

    But preschoolers are cute and capable of learning. 

    My 6 y/o cousin has asked cranky boomers in our family if they're okay lol

    My SO and I had a private moment last night, and she admitted that she's already struggling to contain her frustration. I told her basically what you said: "Think of them as being in their second childhood. They think that they're autonomous and mature, but they have the same limited awareness as schoolkids...the same self-absorption and inability to see that things go in both directions."

  • Don’t invite them over again. If they complain, stop talking to them until further notice.

    My (Silent Gen) mom used to say guest are like fish and they start to stink after a few days.

    Hotels are a valid option.

    Also your house, your rules, especially if there are children. And pets. I get them not wanting the dog in their room, but it is the dog's house not theirs. I don't care for sleeping with pets that aren't mine, but when in someone else's home you understand you're disrupting the pets' routines. Or one SHOULD get you're disruptive to the household you're staying at.

    You don't have a guest room, it is your office, the dog's room, a kid's room, it is being remodeled, storage with no guest bed....etc.

    You just reminded me of Barry from Dinner For Schmucks. Have you ever seen it?

    Dinner For Schmucks scene: The Tower of Dreamers

    I have not, but that clip made me LOL so I will seek it out. Thank you for that!

    Your house, your rules, right?

  • My mom is like this with my kid. I told her I dont take kindly to people questioning my parenting in my own home. If my rules make her uncomfortable, she’s free to leave. Unfortunately this only shut her up when my intent was to make her to leave.

    My grandma visited and asked why do I let my daughter (toddler) to play in living room... Because it's her home and she can play wherever she wants??? Wtf?

    Is the toddler to go play in the street instead?!

    Whenever they get too rowdy, a bit of whiskey helps!

    I think she ment her room. Unsupervised.

    I would love my kids to go play in their own rooms, but weirdly they like to spend time with us and so are almost always in the kitchen and living room 🤷

    When my parents followed that advice, I destroyed my room. We all gathered in the front room as a family after that incident

    Because back in the old days, living rooms were for visitors only and had plastic on the sofas.

    Well, we used to do it that way and you kids all turned out alright! Yes mother, none of us died but you know mothers who did lose children to SIDS! There's a reason SIDS deaths are half as high as they were when we were babies and it's because we do things differently now.

    They used to beat left handed kids for writing with their left hands when you were young, and they're all still survived too, mom. Maybe when we introduce crayons or chalk to this little one, when they get a bit bigger, we should hit them with a ruler if they attempt to draw a line with the devil's hand instead of their right hand like God intended.

    My one parenting goal is to make sure my kid needs less therapy than I did, so no. Not “alright” lmao

    My only goal (if I ever have them) is to not pass on an eating disorder. And if they're average (B) students, that's perfectly fine.

    My kids can be dumb as rocks as long as they are happy, healthy and hopefully do not inherit a genetic addictive personality.

    My mom "mental health issues didn't exist in my time!". Hey Dad does of alcoholism, half my family are addicts, everyone is fucking crazy but I'm the weirdo for being in crazy amounts of therapy and go to AA meetings and such. But. But. But. If we just stuff it down and ignore it? Yeah, that's how we ended up addicts. But yes, technically, a few of us survived

    I’m a childless BB, never had responsibilities for infants or anything. Even I know that it’s “back to sleep” and keep your TDAP updated. And if I ever spend time around children, it’s their parents rules or the highway. Even if the child is trying to convince me otherwise.😏

    I'm thankful my Silent Gen family wasn't THAT crazy. No issues with any of the lefties in our family, including 4 among the Baby Boomers across 3 different family branches. Both my BB parents are/were pretty ambidextrous with one leaning leftie and one rightie.

    Well dang, I bet they also beat kids for having potty accidents. But if they really believe pain can fix bodily functions…

    Funny how their version of hell and how they treated their own kids overlap.

    Oh when I did this, my mom literally left and I haven't seen her in over 2 years. 

    Sorry for your loss, or congratulations? Maybe a bit of both?

    Your final sentence cracked me up. 😂

  • My life goal is to never end up being the subject of this sub.

    I'm 64. My bonus mom is 74. The last thing I want is her current life.

    Ditto at 68.

  • My parents aren't bad boomers, they haven't become selfish or entitled luckily.

    But one bullet point there did strike me. In their old age, little things are suddenly pressing for them. Like your "where is the honey?" example. Little roadblocks in their life are now almost treated as emergencies. The other day my dad needed to borrow a tool. He called me at night about it, I said I'd bring it tomorrow. He texted me three times during the day, while I was working, to ask for status updates. Even though he knew I'd be coming by after work. "Hey - where is that tool?" "Are you still bringing that tool?"

    I'm not sure what the phenomenon is really. Capable people who never let things get to them, and now little hurdles throw them for a loop and are treated like mini-crises.

    I hate it. Everything is "Red Alert", the storm sirens are blaring and it's always something that isn't time sensitive.

    It boggles my mind because they always expect you to drop everything and help them with whatever.

    It's like dealing with toddlers that you can't tell to fuck all the way off.

    When I was a child and had a crisis, I was met with indifference, anger or mockery. I will not be soothing the emotions of grown ass adults who ignored mine.

    This. You are adults, why do you not wanna listen to me?" My parents always treated me like I knew nothing and still do the same to me and expect me to soothe their own emotions.

    It's exhausting.

    It’s entertaining when they try to bestow “wisdom”. Like, no thanks. I’ve been spending my adult life actively trying to unlearn all of your “lessons”

    And if you ask them for help, it always needs to wait until they're ready.

    I work fire/EMS. This is so goddamn true. Baby Boomers are the least self-reliant and capable generation I see on a regular basis.

    This was my and my husband’s experience working in help desk jobs. The wild thing is that not only are those types of Boomers not self-reliant, but they will try to paint their (usually self-caused) issue as your fault when they’re the ones who need help.

    Like ma’am, no, I don’t know your password, that’s on you to remember. You don’t know how to use PowerPoint in 2025? And you have a PHD and have worked in higher education academia for 40 years? That’s on you to learn it at one of our many free in-person workshops or on your own using thousands of tutorial videos. I also once had to do the work to learn PPT, I wasn’t just born with that knowledge as an 80’s kid, despite what you believe.

    what are some of the dumbest things you've been called for?

    I mean, truly, it depends. A lot of it just comes down to a lack of understanding and/or education. My main complaint is people calling 911 for chronic problems that yeah, it sucks, but this is something you and your PCP have to work together to solve. The ER can’t fix it for you. We can take you there, but you’ll get sent back home and have the same issue in 3 hours.

    Edit: They end up wanting to go to the ER anyways, too. Unfortunately for them, we don’t offer punch cards for ambulance transports.

    our work culture has created an environment where everything is always an emergency and I wonder if Boomers no long have the mental capacity to understand the difference between an real and made up emergency because of this.

    I also wonder if the 'customer is always right' theory has caused this kind of escalation with everything. Society taught them that they get what they want by being difficult.

    Or, they're becoming even more self centered, like we are all NPCs in their lives and we should all drop everything to help them.

    So sad that it doesn't even matter anymore that the whole original saying was "The customer is always right in matters of taste" or something along those lines, meaning that if someone wants to buy some horrendous ugly shit, you (the salesperson) smile and say that it looks amazing. That's it! Not all...this gestures broadly at everything

    My mom always stressed that it’s rude to call anyone before 9 am. You need to be respectful and not wake the household. We’d had a rough go with our kids’ sleep so my husband let me sleep in on a Saturday. 7 am my phone rings. It’s Mom. I send it to voicemail. 8:00 am it rings again. And a text at 8:30: “hi, call me” .Now I’m worried something is actually wrong and I can’t go back to sleep anyways. I answer and she tells me she and my dad have a mild case of Covid and she needed to let me know. I live in California and they live in Texas. Why is this urgent? When I reminded her that we don’t call people before 9 am she was so offended that I didn’t care more about their health, as if I could cure them from 2000 miles away. It’s like it didn’t occur to her that I didn’t need to know the second their test came up positive. She did not care in the slightest that I was sleeping.

    My theory is that when they retire and don't have caring duties, the tiny things then become the only things to them. So, I wouldn't care about where the honey is because on top of that I'm thinking about my job, my kid, my husband, my health, my mortgage, etc etc. But finding the honey might be the most challenging thing in their day.

    I've had to tell my mother that calling me 5 times in a row is unacceptable unless she is on fire. Like, leave a fucking message! If I didn't answer my phone, it's for a reason. And that reason will be the same for the next 4-5 times I don't answer my phone.

    It’s emotional immaturity

    Mine are the same way, ever since they retired! In the past, they knew how to prioritize and triage situations. Now they're panicking because the wifi is slow in bad weather. I think it's because they have nothing more pressing to focus on.

    The honey is clearly a tiny thing, but they wanted it for tea. It's partly a memory thing ("I'll forget to mention it later."), but the main thing is that it's a 'small' thing that they need help with, and so it's not putting me out. Even though I have the same need to not be bothered when I first wake up, it's fine for them to pester me with little tasks/chores the second that I step out of my bedroom - because they're just small things.

    "I'm not asking for you to change a tire," was an excuse when I confronted them later in the day.

    It's just super frustrating that they will list the same exact reasons as I do for wanting some time/space first thing in the morning, and yet they're incapable of recognizing that other people have rules too...

    Or worse, they're incapable of understanding that their needs don't supercede others' needs.

    Mine too, does my head in. The stuff about their lives revolving around the dog too. They haven’t always been like this! I get it though, doesn’t make them a bad boomer :)

  • This is why we tried exactly one Christmas hosting my parents and now they stay in a hotel lol

    • they’re on different sleep schedules. Mom goes to bed at 8, wakes up at 4. Dad naps throughout the day and has tinnitus, so he needs the tv blasting at like 1, 3, and 5 AM

    • dog is special needs and barks incessantly due to anxiety. Parents act like it’s normal and need to be asked to handle their dog (she is very sweet but very loud)

    • they need a shitload of snacks in order to survive despite our cooking for them or going out, so there goes all the spare space in my kitchen

    • we’re cord cutters so dad was watching fox business on his phone at full volume in the main gathering space

    • out of toilet paper every half day and the toilets clogged 4 separate times over 4 days. I have zero clue why someone is using that much when no one is sick

    That first Christmas, my husband and I went to drink at the Whole Foods bar just to catch a break. Yeesh.

    Get dad a pair of noise cancelling headphones or earbuds. It has made a world of difference for my tinnitus and the tv never has to be heard because the headphones nowadays connects to the tv. And your noisy dad can listen to his programs from his phone, quietly.

    I bet he won't. Boomers never do anything to be thoughtful to others.

    I mean, that’s sort of the same blanket generational thinking we accuse boomers of showing. My parents do plenty of thoughtful actions; this is just where I’m calling them out, airing my grievances, etc.

    If I asked him to use headphones, I think he would try, especially if it were visibly troubling me. It just sucks that this obvious social faux pas doesn’t naturally occur to him. Point is moot, since this is solved with their staying out of my house.

    My mom wouldn't. She would get angry at me for suggesting it. 

  • I still remember the occasion I had to tell my dad, “Hey Pop, I sit at the head of my table!”

    As a nod to matriarchy, my (f71) hubby insists on NOT being at the head of the table. He insists I sit there!

    I’d gladly give the seat to my wife as well. To be honest it only bothered me a bit because I knew he viewed it as the top dawg spot.

    We don't have a literal head of our table (it's round), but it's always annoyed me when people joke that one of us is the boss. "Gotta keep the real boss happy, right?" I'm as egalitarian as possible, and I don't like the idea that people assume one of us is really running things while the other is subservient.

    I had no idea the head of the table was a dominance thing

  • One of the happiest days of my life was telling my boomer parent in my home that “ no you cannot sit in the living room and watch TV while you eat, we eat at the dining room table in my house. Remember, my house so these are my rules”. He complied and still does because he won’t admit it was just bullshit to control us as kids.

    No high could ever match telling my mom “We have that at home.” After going grocery shopping with her first thing so she could have everything she wanted at my house for snacks and drinks. And she asked to stop for a Dr. Pepper at McDonald’s. I didn’t even think of saying it. I just have kids now and it was just an automatic reply. Then I realized what I said and laughed and laughed. It was amazing.

  • My place isn’t big enough for overnight guests - so my parents stay at a hotel. But even if I get a big enough place - they can stay at a hotel bc it gives everyone much needed space and time away from each other.

    Amen to this. Plus you enjoy each other's company better if you have a little bit of time away,.

  • I live in a one bedroom apartment and when my parents visit me, they usually just stay with me and take my room. My dog sleeps in my king-size bed with me, but when they stay I sleep on the couch and he sleeps on the floor next to me. Now, I’m fanatical about keeping the bedding clean, especially with guests, (he only sleeps on the outside of the covers at the foot of the bed) But, during their last visit my dad made a little snide comment about my dog sleeping in the bed. I looked him straight in the eye and deadpanned “that’s HIS bed, you’re just borrowing it” which shut him up.

  • About 18 years ago one of my younger brothers was hosting Easter dinner and dropped the "my house, my rules and if you don't like it, leave". My dad and brother were heated and arguing over something stupid, and when my brother dropped that, dad short-circuited and just stared for a minute before totally losing his shit and storming out. He rage exited in the car leaving my mom stranded. It was kind of glorious. The dysfunction was constant but rarely did it end with something epic like that. That was also the last year we did Easter dinner together.

  • They've been in charge for so long, they cannot conceive of not being the alpha dominant in-charge ruler of all they survey.

    Fortunately, I never have to put up with that shit, because a) my dad and stepmom live in another state and don't travel any more, so they never stay with me, and b) even if they did travel, I live in a one-bedroom apartment with no space for even a single guest.

    But when I visit them, it's not too difficult for me to shift back into the habits I had when I last lived with my parents. I can put up with them for a few days on the rare occasion when I visit.

    The ones in the OP really aren't like that - so it's ironic that they've still turned out like this. That is, it's just easy to say "my house, my rules" when you don't have the time/patience/knowledge to sit down and work out solutions with kids...and now that they're old, they're just not capable of living another way. They can't survive without their routines, their familiar foods, schedules built around them.

    The crazy part is that with all of their needs now, they just can't understand that others might have the same needs. I attribute that to the global media telling them their whole lives that they're the most put-out and victimized generation.

  • I did this when my dad made a racist remark: “we don’t speak this that in this house.” Totally befuddled but he accepted it!

  • I remember turning the tables back on my father in my first house. Dad sat down on my sofa right next to my freshly bought ounce of weed

    Dad "WTF is that?"

    Me "Weed obviously"

    Dad "I'm flushing it"

    Me "the fuck you are. My house, my rules''

    I lit a pre rolled one up right in front of him. He left very soon after that

    Flashing? Flushing? I'm confused.

  • Boomer Visit Rule #1: When you visit, you stay at a hotel.

    Deliberately have a one bedroom place for this reason!

    Same and no elevator to my 3rd floor apt.

  • After I got married and got my own home, my mom visited and tried this same kind of thing. I shut that down pretty quick. I told her this wasn't how we did things and to stop doing different.

  • Sorry dude but grow a spine and tell them off. You are justified in being frustrated, but if you let them walk over you, then they will. From what you've told us, you wouldn't be out of line for laying down the law for while they are staying with you

  • I remember playing the reverse Uno card of “my house, my rules” on my stepdad as an adult. He realized how ridiculous it is and we had a good laugh. It was actually a turning point in our relationship.

  • Silly silly silly...
    I don’t understand why people raised by Boomers are so confused by this.

    The rules were always perfectly clear. You just misunderstood the scope!

    “My house, my rules” was never about property. It was about jurisdiction. You could move out, buy a house, start a family, pay a mortgage—but authority doesn’t transfer with the deed. Authority is portable. It travels. Like luggage. Like trauma.

    So of course when they visit your home, it seamlessly becomes “your house, my rules.” That’s not hypocrisy; that’s consistency. The constitution doesn’t expire just because you have hardwood floors.

    Naturally, the rules are now calibrated to their current operating system.

    Silence at night, because they are asleep and therefore reality should pause. Noise in the morning is acceptable because they are awake and therefore reality should resume. This is not selfishness—it’s physics.

    You must allow them a full hour to boot up in the morning. No questions. No interaction. No stimuli. But the second you wake up, you should already know where the honey is.

    Time is relative. This is Einstein-level stuff.

    Bathroom doors? Obviously closed now. Not because of logic, but because tradition. Toilet paper orientation has also been corrected. You may have lived incorrectly for years, but don’t worry—they noticed immediately.

    Heat must run constantly, because their comfort zone is now one precise temperature, and missing it by even a degree is a medical emergency. Sustainability is a young person’s hobby.

    And the dog—this is my favorite part—the dog must understand that while the room is usually theirs, it is temporarily not theirs, and this should not cause confusion or distress. The dog is being unreasonable.

    What you’re experiencing isn’t entitlement. It’s continuity of command. They aren’t visiting you; they’re briefly inspecting the outpost you’ve been allowed to manage.

    The rules didn’t change! You just forgot who they were always for.

    Silly OP.

    Do you know my mother-in-law? Because you have an uncanny grasp of her thought processes.

    She wasn’t a Boomer. She was born in 1920 in Eastern Europe. I have a lot of sympathy for the horrors she endured during World War II and for her plight as an immigrant to the USA. But no, ma’am, you don’t have jurisdiction over me and my house just because you gave birth to my husband and treated him like shit all his life.

    In the end, my husband’s loyalty to his mother was far greater than his loyalty to me. Hitler ruined my marriage.

    Ah yes... I see your confusion. I feel like I know that person well.

    “My house, my rules” was never a generational quirk, it was like an imperial doctrine!!

    Survived the war, crossed an ocean, annexed your living room. etc

    History is nothing if not persistent.

  • “Given your age, I think it would be best for you to book a hotel next visit!”

  • Toilet paper rolls are flipped around

    This takes the complaining about boomers to a whole other level. 🤣

    My mother did this when I moved her in for Home Hospice. She had her own bathroom even but still insisted on doing this to the guest bathroom. I finally just straight up confronted her about it and told her point blank to not touch the tp rolls, dammit

    You don't have a cat with a drumming the tp fetish. As for humans, one good yank and it unspirals.

    Jesus, is your dispenser greased with Clark Griswold's kitchen lubricant or something?

    lol, no. I am the one who does it the "wrong" way. I'm a contrarian like that.

    And I will flip them back, EVERY DAMN TIME! I will never touch the TP in someone else's home. Like, who does that?? 🤦🏼‍♀️

  • Okay, the third one is somewhat reasonable. I need my coffee first thing in the morning before I dare talk to people. The rest of them, not so much.

    Remind them of the rule they had for you when you were growing up: (pretty sure this was pretty standard for most boomers)

    You are a guest in your relative's house. Follow their house rules.

  • You’ve got to start setting and keeping boundaries, treat them like they’re 3. Basic commands. No deep exploration of feelings or reasons. Just facts. They act lien this bc you let them get away with it. You absolutely have to teach people how to treat you

  • I don't put up with shit like that.

  • My mother was big on this,  & had no hesitation about enforcing that with my grandparents.  That turned into most visiting happening at their place, because mom didn't like having company. 

    Imagine her shock when years later,  I have my own apartment,  and she tried to bulldoze her way in, because she decided that this particular day was when she was coming over to pick up some stuff my sister had stored with me. She didn't back down until I threatened to call the cops. During this, sis and I compared notes,  & figured out mom was lying to her about me demanding that her stuff needed to go, and I didn't want her moving back with me. (Convenient apartment in town vs rural, at least an hour away from everything. )

    Um, no, I had other plans? Touch base in advance,  and needs to be a good time for me, or it ain't happening.  

    And guess who didn't move back in with mom.

  • That's what hotels are for. They have the money, but they're cheap.

  • Wait, Toilet paper rolls flipped around? To what? Hang in front or behind? Then we'll know who the monster is. /s

  • I see my parents maybe twice a year. We live about an 8 hour drive apart. Generally on major holidays. I can deal with it for a few days but I don’t know if I could handle them living down the street.

  • They can’t ACTUALLY do anything about it if you don’t follow their rules. Some of those things are just annoying things they do. So for that I’d wage a silent war. Make them as uncomfortable as possible without being hostile or overt. What I mean is annoy them back. Use all the hot water, have loud sex, hell even walk around nude if you’re brave enough. They’ll find a hotel faster than you can say “my house my rules”.

  • 100% set in their ways, everything has to be done their way, or it's chaos that they can't deal with.

    It always was.

    r/raisedbynarcissists,

  • Being old and set in their ways is an excuse. They have likely been set in their ways since the 70s. My 92 year old grandmother has more flexibility

  • I'd straight up tell them both to get a hotel or get fucked.

    For some reason it was the toilet paper direction switch that sent me. I don't care which way (over back is correct 🫣) you don't change things like that in another person's home.

  • They demand respect but offer none

  • My boomer mother would do this any time she visited. She'd always rearrange my kitchen to how she liked it, demand I do chores the moment I woke up (your house is a mess) and then sit & talk loudly if anyone watched tv. She'd also tell my youngest picky eater kid that her food was awful. So I told her to stop and that it was MY house. She looked so offended.

    That was her last visit because I went no contact for various other reasons.

  • I feel this. My father in law is living with us for the foreseeable future. More than once, he has asked if I can keep my son quiet in the morning after I take my daughter to school cause he’s not a morning person. I told him flat out, no, I will not keep my 6 year old quiet at 8:15 in the morning so you can sleep until noon.

  • Boomer here who was raised by Greatest Generation parents. It was, “My house, my rules” way back then.

    Same here. My parents are 95 and its still "Their house, their rules", but when in my house its "Respect your elders". I'm a great-grandmother and its still this way.

    My family always lives long, and I was close to my own great-grandfather who was born in 1869. I remember him saying the same things to my parents in the 1960s.

    This isn't something new with any recent generation.

  • My father, a boomer, used to always joke "the older you get the smarter your father will seem". This is the man that threw an empty butane canister (one of those green camp stove ones) into a camp fire to see what would happen (it blew up and rained burning coals on our heads). He now listens to conservative opinion shows and MAGA podcasts every waking minute of his life and makes the guy who threw the butane canister in the fire look like MENSA material.

  • Stop inviting them. Problem solved.

  • Hotel room. Either take them or take yourself.

  • I told my parents ‘my house, my rules’ the first time they came to visit me. I did adjust something’s for their comfort, but I watch tv until late, and don’t be loud in my house in the morning. Fortunately they were very good about it and I never had to say anything to them. I can’t imagine parents being children about being in someone else’s home. What cretans.

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  • Ugh. Fckin Boomers. Last time my mother visited I knew she was going to pull this shit so I told her she couldn’t come unless she stayed in a hotel. No damn way am I upending my life for her.

  • I plan on going no contact as soon as I can and won't be telling mine my new address, but they'll probably find out anyways. But part of me does look forward to saying how we don't gargle the orange one's balls in my house and "my house, my rules" when they bitch about it though.

  • Your describing my mom who has been living with me since august and she has to leave the oven open everytime she makes something

  • Ban them from your house. Tell them "My house, my rules."

  • And always, always, alwaaays.....

    Must have the evening tv news.

    Not negotiable.

    It's kinda funny to watch them squirm if I "lose" the remote or find another reason not to turn it on.

  • The Worst Generation gonna worst generation…

  • Yeah. I live here they don't. They can follow my rules or they can go get a hotel

  • Ok, I get being upset about all of them except the last one. If you have guests staying over, then the dog has to move out of the guest room. I'm not sure of too many guests that would love having to sleep with someone else's dog.

    I would love to sleep with the dog. In fact, I've been known to request to.

    We stay over at friends every few months and one of our favorite things is when their dog climbs into bed with us and goes under the blankets and starts snoring. Makes us sleep like babies

    Explain that to the dog who's being kicked out of his room. I don't disagree with you but the dog is whining all night which is keeping everyone up and there's no reasoning with an animal 😆

    You have a bedroom right? You sleep in there every night and in the same bed too I imagine. Well, people you don't know came over and now they sleep in your room, you're not allowed in there. How would you feel?

    Them don't invite guests to stay over. Tell them, "Sorry, but that's the dog's room". See how that goes over with everyone

  • I totally agree with OP, but wanted to offer another perspective. As I am getting older I realized that my comfort zone shrinks with age. When I was young i could go to bed whenever and nothing would disturb my sleep. I could eat anything anytime and I was feeling great. Heat or cold did not bother me much. Oh, but how all of that slowly changed as I got older. So I understand boomers, being one myself, but I do not excuse selfishness and rude behavior. If something is causing discomfort while I am a guest, I'd either ask politely or suffer quietly.

  • My Narc mom stayed with us as we bought her house after my dad died. I had the pleasure of telling when she grows up, and has her own house, you can have it your way.

  • 70% of all the problems on reddit can be fixed by the OP "growing a pair".

  • They can wish in one hand and shit in the other and see which gets filled first. Just because they vocalize it doesn’t mean it’s gonna happen. If they start throwing a fit or can’t adjust, send them home or to a hotel.

  • Remind them that it’s your house, your rules. They can abide or hit the road.

  • Well you could lay down the law like they did to you. Or let them walk all over you like they are spoiled children.

  • Seriously. The list is ridiculous. Except ... are they changing the TP from or to the "mullet?"

  • I would be doubling down SO HARD on MY rules for MY house. They don't like it, they can feck off to a hotel.

  • So how much of your mortgage are they going to pay this month? Cause most of that would not fly in my house-especially the dog. He lives there. The little things like tp or doors, annoying but I can cope. But the dog and the heat are no go's.

  • My father yelled at my grandmother when family visited for a Thanksgiving. I told him yelling was not allowed in my home, if you feel like yelling then leave. So he left, but returned with an attitude adjustment. I must confess that I role played this repeatedly in therapy before the holiday.

    Standing ovation! I love this.

  • and you put up with this shit ?

  • My hubby & I are on opposite sides of this spectrum when we are visiting my adult children.

    I adapt to the household bed times & wake schedule, eat what is offered and go along with the plan for the day. I think it's fun to eat something new and go to things the kids enjoy.

    Hubby wants to keep to his early to bed, early to rise schedule, wants to eat at specific times, doesn't like new foods and doesn't want to watch the kids do things if he can't take part.

    It's not just at my kids' homes, he is the same way wherever we travel. He actually moves the furniture in other people's guest rooms! I'm like, seriously dude, you can't leave the nightstand there for the 2 nights we're going to be here?

  • My dad would become physically violent to prove the "his house his rules thing", so I moved out at 17. I had saved enough for an apartment and my car. I continued school, went to college, and got a govt job at 20. In my early 20s I was able to buy a house that was, unfortunately, near my parents. They immediately tried to tell me what to do with my own house. I remember the day I told them "My house, my rules. Don't like it, there's the door." My dad never came over again. My mom did until I kicked her out for constantly complaining about my decorating and trying to tell me what I should do instead.

  • Most of these are bad but like..I don’t want the dog in there with me either. I know it’s like “his room” but it’s also a guest room and you have human guests. The dog will survive elsewhere for a few days.

  • Time. For. Hotel. Rooms.

    There comes a point in adults child/parent relationships where hotel rooms during visits are 100% the way to go. It’s just not tenable otherwise

  • Benjamin Franklin was a man of profound wisdom, but never more so than when he declared that "guests, like fish, begin to stink after three days."

    I'm going to buck the usual Reddit trend and recommend that you enjoy having the old farts around even if they're annoying. They won't be around much longer. Every single one of the old people in my life are dead and I miss them every day. Ok, maybe except for those "my house my rules" days, and even those don't seem as bad today.

    One, found the Boomer.

    Two…

    when i look back at my childhood with my Boomer parents, as their youngest i remember their care of me being treated as more of an obligation than an act of love. My father came home and plopped in his chair after work while my mother worked away in the kitchen. At meals, it was “speak when you’re spoken to,” and any misstep was rewarded with a slap to the face.

    I remember a weekend trip to an amusement park with my parents where my father forgot his wristwatch. I was wearing mine, because i wanted to be like my dad. He demanded i give him my wristwatch, because he needed to always know what time it was. Instead of making it a game and teaching the 5-year old some life skills by making me the Time Keeper. He said if i didn’t give him the watch we were turning around and going home. I cried. What a great parent.

    And the time he pinned my 16-year old sister against the wall (literally had her by the throat) because she wanted to date a certain boy.

    Or the time he threw a full-force baseball at my 10-year old brother to make him tough. Hit him in the face and sent him to the ER. Or the time he held him over the edge of a cliff to help him “get over” his fear of heights… my brother still has nightmares about this as an adult.

    I could go on. My father is 85 now and lives in another state. He thinks he was a model parent, and doesn’t understand why his kids never visit. I rarely speak to him now. My memories of him are not fond, and i won’t miss him when he’s gone.

    The Boomers have aged terribly. Entitled. Selfish. Unwilling to adapt. Unwilling to ever apologize. Incapable of vulnerability or self-reflection.

    No… very few of that generation will be missed.

    I'm sorry you had shitty parents. That sounds like child abuse, fucking terrible. I am a boomer, I own that. There are shitty selfish parents in every generational cohort, I'm sorry you got the short stick.

    You are right about that. One of the few compliments I can give my selfish, boomer parents is that they were better and less abusive than their own horrible “greatest generation” parents were. When they were growing up, beating your wife and kids, spousal rape, drinking and driving, taking your children’s paychecks, were all legal and accepted.

    People today think of Greatest and Silent Generation people as kind, avuncular Grandpa, as opposed to their own shitty parents. Fuck that, the level of abusive behavior that went on in that generations was epic. Boomers grew up swearing that their generation would never, ever be like them. I guess it's boomer's time in the barrel with Gen X lined up right behind us.

    I appreciate that, and appreciate your first sentence.

    And "being a Boomer" isn't an age thing... it's an entitled attitude thing, so no need to apologize if that's not you. There are more than a few Boomers who don't fit this stereotype, and more than a few Xers who do fit it.

    But to say we'll miss those who fit the stereotype... we really won't.

    This is how generational trauma persists

  • Adult. 

    Learn. To. Say. NO.

  • I’m sorry to put it so bluntly, it’s not because they’re old, it’s because they’re assholes. My boomer age parents would never do anything like that, don’t get me wrong, they’re not always a walk in the park, but they always respect me in my own house. It’s a choice they make, nothing to do with age.

  • Fuck that shit! Stand up to your bullies! My mom was my biggest bully ENTIRE life until about 5 years ago when I cut her off completely. It can be hard, but your parents are abusive with absolutely NO remorse. Tell them next time they want to stay they have e to abide by your rules. If they give you shit just tell them, when you’re able to follow the rules of MY house, then you can stay. It will be hard at first but it will be worth it.

  • Once I finally have a proper place of my own I am going to take great pleasure never allowing my dad to ever visit.

  • And this is why my MIL is not allowed in my house.

    IF she decided to bestir herself and come out here to visit (not bloody likely, she thinks she’s a queen, and WE are to come to HER)? She can pay for a hotel, and stay there. And I will not go to a restaurant with her. She fucked that up a long time ago by acting like an asshole when we took her out.

    So, personally, I’d just as soon she not. And she doesn’t want to have to be nice to me in my home.

  • Book them a hotel for their next visit 🥳

  • They can have whatever rules they like in their hotel room, no more hosting them.

  • If I were staying at my children's house. Im sure I wouldn't like some of their rules, but I'd definitely follow the rules, or I would find other accommodations, as it's their house and not mine.

  • I would print a 1,000 copies of My house My rules, post everywhere, and start issuing instructions.

  • Before I went no contact with my Father he tried to pull some shit on me, I forgot what it was exactly.

    I do remember my response though. "my house, my rules - feel free to leave at any time" delivered to him staring him dead ass in the face.

  • Just one question: When they flip the toilet paper rolls around, are they going from mullet to beard or beard to mullet? Because if they're going from mullet to beard, they are in fact correct.

  • It's called moving far, far away and not having to deal with their shit.

  • In boomer logic this saying is reserved for children living in the parents home. Your boomers don't feel it applies to them. I've seen this scenario play out with friends and my own in-laws. Some are worse than others but it's just the sense of entitlement that they have bleeding over. The don't comprehend how rude it is of them to behave this way in their child's home. They have always and still view you as subordinate to them.

  • Oh, I had one girlfriend years ago whose Boomer dad was definitely the "My house, my rules" kind of asshole. The most annoying thing was that he insisted hats in the house were rude. If I came over wearing a hat, he'd make me take it off. Dude, I'm only wearing a hat because my hair is a mess today. I don't want to look like shit with greasy hat hair. Whatever, it wasn't worth the fight.

    Eventually, I moved in with his daughter. The very first time he came over, I met him at the door with a hat in my hand. "Sorry, but the rule is that you must wear a hat in this house. My house, my rules."

    He didn't find it funny at all. I pushed it for a minute, but eventually backed down and told him I'd remember it next time I was at his house. Even his wife thought it was funny (she was much nicer than him.) Didn't end dating that girl much longer for other reasons, but I can't imagine what a PITA he would have been as a father in law.

  • I’m with you on everything but the dogs. Why on earth would you expect guests in your home to want to sleep with your dogs?

  • My in-laws can not stack the dishwasher the way I like it or put knives back in their appropriate slot.

    Seems like a very small thing, but fuck me it pisses me off.

    Absolutely incapable of adaption.

  • I got to use this line with my mom when she came to visit last summer! She kept turning my ac off and letting my apt heat up horribly! Got to tell her that my house, my rules line and the I pay the bills line! Made my day! And yes she did quit fucking with the ac but I think that was mostly due to me yelling at her more then telling her the my house bit.

  • Sounds like someone needs to get themselves a hotel room.

  • You're the one allowing and enabling this behavior

  • The dog problem. Hosts' pets usually sleep with me when I visit. But the parents might trip over the dog when going to the bathroom at night so I kind of see why they might say no. A restless dog will keep everyone awake all night, though. A dilemma

  • that's why you never see them again and cut all forms of communication.

    Choose peace.

  • If you can’t be quiet when your guests go to bed early or can’t deal with them not wanting the dog in the room when they’re sleeping then you’re a bad host. I get it though. My parents were older boomers and my wife’s parents were younger boomers and the only one of the 4 that ever respected the way things work in my house was my dad because he was just a chill guy anyway. My mom got upset numerous times about not being allowed to smoke in the house and her parents gave us a lot of grief about our dogs. We constantly had to wait for the 3 of them and they didn’t get along well either because you can only fit so many egos in the same room.