And they will give you worse props if you win too much
No more late night trips to the corner store for scratchers or the casino. Now gambling is in your pocket constantly pushing you new "deals" that will drain your bank account
And always pushing parlays because people see the potential payout and their eyes get big. But they almost never hit. If you’ve got a 50/50 chance of winning an individual bet and you bet a three-leg parlay, your chances of winning are 12.5%. For a four-leg parlay, you’ve got a 6.25% chance. So you could bet 10 four-leg parlays and still, statistically speaking, very reasonably lose every single one.
Basically choices with 50/50 odds each. One leg means one 50/50 and two is two 50/50s. The odds halve each time, so it goes from 50% to 25% to 12.5% and so on.
If you have a 50/50 chance on a bet, there are two outcomes: win or lose. If you have a 50/50 chance on two unrelated bets, there are four outcomes: win-win, win-lose, lose-win, lose-lose. In a parlay, you have to win both, so there is a 25% chance of winning, as the other three options result in a loss on the overall bet. As you repeat that process, there is still only one result that makes you win the parlay (winning them all) but you increase the outcomes that result in a loss each time you require an additional win. So, the net effect is cutting your likelihood of winning the parlay in half every time you add in another 50/50 bet. Idk if this helps but maybe it will. It’s basic statistics but I totally understand and respect that it’s over many people’s heads and it confused me for a while.
To find the percentage chance of a string of events happening, you multiple the odds of all events together.
So 50/50 bet, which has another leg that is also 50/50, would be a 25% chance to win.
The longer string of events, or I suppose "parlays", the less your odds of winning get.
It can get so ridiculous that you legitimately have a better chance of winning the actual powerball gazillionaire lottery than any of your sports bets.
Wait wait wait. So basically instead of betting that the coin will land on heads, you're betting that you can predict the outcome of, let's say, 4 coin flips in order?
Basically, although you can create parlays that are more dependent. Like, I bet that the Bills will cover and Josh Allen will throw for 300+. Still very risky.
This is exactly it. With sports betting, people just feel they know enough to know which coin flip will be which. It sounds insane to bet your money on four consecutive flips being: heads, tails, tails, heads. But that’s exactly what a parlay is. The odds are designed to be 50/50 so the bookmakers make money regardless based on their fees. That’s why betting lines shift when significantly more money is on one side than the other.
Exactly this. I had a physical therapist that was hooked on parlays. Good dude, but sometimes I wonder if he even heard himself
He'd be mumbling about how some random school like Idaho State "blew it for me"
Bruh... What conference does that school even plan in? What's their mascot? They get you to bet on schools and players you know (Alabama, ND, etc) and then you have to convince yourself you know ball and how Mid Tennessee State will fair against Central Illinois or something
That’s what gets me more than anything. Mfers be betting on players and teams they know nothing about and then have the shocked pikachu face when their parlay blows up in their face
When I was a kid my family went to Reno for Superbowl weekend every year.
Every year we would all bet CRAZY $1.00-$2.00 parlays that would pay like 1000:1. In 15 years of going I hit a crazy parlay once and won $2000. But in 15 years of going and at least 10 of us making crazy bets only like 3 of us ever won a bet.
But is was all fun, and almost impossible to get addicted on that once a year game.
Ya doing that shit for the Super Bowl or running a $100 on a few Trifectas and Superfectas on the KY Derby is all in good fun.
But when people can do that shit all day long, everyday on their phone, it will have bad consequences. No one that is a semi-competent sports better bets parlays. And by semi-competent, I mean someone that the amount lost will be only the price of entertainment in a not unhealthy way.
This is why I always preferred poker when I was still playing. Even though the cards coming off the deck were pretty much as random as could be, I could control whether or not I played any particular hand and could push through or fold based on cues from my opponents. There's way more control in that than just some football players in a whole other state playing against each other with an infinite amount of variables. I did pretty good with the poker for about 10 years but then kids and life got in the way which honestly was probably the healthiest thing for me. I was doing well enough that I was kind of getting too big for my britches and starting to risk more than I could afford to lose but because I kept winning it just seemed like I was in total control of everything. Luckily I never truly lost my ass so I feel pretty fortunate that I got out when I did. I haven't been back to the casino since then I don't plan on going back even though the kids are all out of the house.
Same! I thought I'd like blackjack. Set aside a small budget ($200) knowing if I lost all of it I could still pay all my bills.
Land in Vegas, having a blast with family, hit a physical table. Lost twice before my free drink even made it. Just got up and walked away. On the last day I hit up video blackjack and got to breakeven. That was my betting career, losing that $200 made me feel sick and negatively influenced my mood the whole weekend. 0/10 won't do again
Exactly right. It's like installing a slot machine app on your phone. It's not just the gambling apps, though.
They all use the same strategies of using over-saturated colors and notifications to maintain constant engagement. I played a World of Warcraft knockoff game for far too long that did the same thing, as do dating apps like Tinder. "Investing" sites like Robinhood and Coinbase too.
They're ALL trying to maintain engagement, as well as monetize that engagement.
I don't like gambling at all so I risked signing up for free money. Bet it all on one game per app. Literally lost on all but one. On the one, I think I made $200, cashed out, and uninstalled them all.
Haven't looked back.
This only worked for me because gambling makes me sooo uncomfortable. Even with play money, I didn't enjoy it. I have no desire to try again.
I have a similar story I was on vacation with my then girlfriend. She wanted to go to the casino, we both gambled $60, she came back for another $20. I hit on the slots for $500. Cashed out and waited around. Haven’t gambled since.
I feel the same way. The prospect of losing money scares me much more than the prospect of winning money excites me. I did some sports betting in college and losing $200 through that scared me off of it for good
And there’s always weird stipulations with that shit too. Like you can’t actually cash it out, you gotta use it for more bets. Just a matter of time until you lose. They’ve got you hooked with almost no risk to themselves. Shit is parasitic
I joined two or three sports gambling apps during the NBA Finals last year, did the absolute minimum play to get those fat "hook 'em deep" bonuses, bet those, won a few hundred bucks, then cashed out and deleted the apps. Gambling is ruining sports, fuck those guys.
I’m down about $180k chasing those same $200–300 promos. My account history makes theirs look like a church donation. Finally tapped out…balance $0.00.
That’s why you use bet matching websites to game a couple thousand bucks out of all the promos in your state and then delete the apps after you’re done. lol I got like $7000 back in 2022 doing them all in my state and two others nearby on apps that had different books in each state at the time
That's exactly what I did. Deposited $5 to get the $300 "free money" to play with. Eventually cashed out $45 and un-installed the app.
I was a nervous wreck the entire time, I can't imagine doing that shit weekly/daily with my own actual money. But I know so many people that'll put half their paycheck on a $50,000 parlay that's basically like hitting the lottery the odds are so astronomical.
They just came to my state. I signed up, bet with the $300 in free bets, then cashed out my $350 in winnings. Never going back unless I can do the same thing again.
I'm not a gambler at all. So me and my wife sign up for the free money bonuses. Make pretend we are at Vegas and cash out when we made the minimum to withdraw. Last time I lost the free $25 and she made the free $25 + $13 in winnings and withdrew lol.
I’m saying! As a kid, I played skeeball at Showbiz Pizza once, didn’t get enough tickets for anything good, and I was DONE, okay 😂 edited because my old ass remembered the actual name of the place 👵🏽
Used to be, to be a real degenerate gambler, you had to go to Vegas for the weekend and never check into a hotel because you were at the tables the entire time.
Now, they'll let you do that shit in your own bed.
For $100 you can have a fun night at a casino that will pay for your drinks. Occasionally you might even win money. Anything beyond doing that once in a while is too degenerate for me.
Not anymore you cant. I live in vegas. $100 gets you maaaaybe 20 minutes of gambling. MAYBE. Definitely not at a table, they're all $10 minimums. With that 100, you dont even get a drink anymore, cause the waitresses dont come around that fast. Playing video poker at the bar wont help, because now they've made it so that theres a little LED under each machine that shows when you've coined in enough to get a "free drink" and the bartender cant comp one until it says they can.
God help you if you want a snack. $3-8 for a bag of doritos, so they can say that its a value to get a fresh made burger with fries for $25 plus tax.
"Just go off strip" - Locals casinos are just slot machines and video poker. Those video poker machines MIGHT have blackjack and keno on them. Fremont is similar to the strip, but they've kept the prices slightly lower, agian so you can 'feel' like you're getting a deal.
Casinos have learned that us plebs arent worth catering to anymore. Just cater to the whales, they'll keep you raking in the cash. Whales dont balk at $20 burgers. Thats why F1 is so popular with the casino leadership but so unpopular with the actual losers like me who live here.
I can’t imagine the people that look at you like YOU are the crazy one because you DON’T use betting apps. Gotta wonder how much of their income is disappearing every week on parlays or whatever…thinking it’s just a matter of time before they hit it huge and can retire?
When someone is talking about how some player or game "made them a lot of money," I play along with the hype then ask, "Just curious how much have you made in total?" Of the people who aren't too embarrassed to show me, their total earnings has always been in the negative, usually somewhere between one and five grand. Gives me so much confirmation on never touching it. These companies don't exist to make you money.
There's a reason they all have huge HQ's in London, Dublin, NYC, Las Vegas, and Boston. And those HQ's have amenities barbershops and sports bars. And that reason is not providing wealth to customers
They are the biggest scams on the planet. If you happen to come up with a model or system that's better at predicting winners than they are and you start winning a bunch, they'll throw you off their platform.
This is exactly why I don’t do fantasy leagues with gambling. If I ever wanted to gamble that bad, I’d just take my ass down to the local native casino and pay $20 for the penny slot machines; if I end up winning some money, sweet, If not then that’s okay too.
I’ve got an account with one of the UK ones and I never use it. Got a notification this month that someone had tried to access my account so went in to change password, threw £5 in assuming they’d try and retain my custom, played £3 on virtual slots and won £70. Took it all out, not touched it since.
I don't think the powers that be realised just what they were unleashing when they legalised sports betting. So many people have gambling addictions in this age of easy dopamine hits.
They 100% knew. We studied this. It's why the neighborhoods kept fighting gambling and racing arenas around their communities, and the nice moneyed communities won while everyone else lost.
Making it all available online is a sign that they no longer care about their own people and their own communities.
Literally what happened in my small town in VA. There was a casino that was trying to get built in the areas around where the richer folk lived and kept getting voted out but when they finally put the vote to my city it passed on the back of " it's gonna help fund the schools and the community". It's just getting finished this year so we'll see how likely that is.
THANK YOU. If casinos are so great for the community there’d be a handful each in in Beverly Hills, Sutton Place, Tuxedo Park and Gold Coast. Surprisingly, there are not.
Yup, tale as old as time. Maybe twenty years ago they got approval for a racing track on the east side of Oklahoma City on the promise and that its taxes would say in the community and go to that district's schools. The track stayed. The money did not.
A great and very current example is the new partnership between Kalshi and CNN.
Kalshi is an "exchange and prediction market for real world events." It's part of the new level of modern gambling that comes after these fucks decided that they weren't making enough money off of sports betting alone.
Now they want real-time bets and gambling on politics, in our current environment of maximum disinformation and corruption. Everything will be exploitable, because now they don't even have to uphold the premise of a fair sport with rules. And that's AFTER outsmarting govt gambling regulations.
Every ruined life from Crypto should be viewed as a microcosm for the level of grift that is now coming for all levels of illiteracy, as opposed to whatever niche was being filled by Crypto scams.
Bro, 404 Media has an article up from a few days back about bets on territory gained or lost in Ukraine. The third party map the site uses was fucking changed to close bets, and then the next day reverted back to the territory not being taken. This shit is insane.
Well you’re forgetting that it’s a personal moral failing and we definitely should not try to curb those behaviors in society. If anything we should lean into making the consequences of those behaviors worse in any way we can so long as someone gets to profit off it.
It’s just like our penal system. The goal isn’t rehabilitation and reintegration, the goal is to inflict suffering on people who are less human than us while producing value for the most valuable members of our civilization- the shareholders.
Doing your taxes for free using a government provided tool?!!! Absurd!!!! How could we allow that? Poor turbo tax shouldn’t have to deal with the brunt of you getting to give the government money for free!
Let’s just legalize one of the timelessly most destructive behaviors known to humanity throughout our history- that’s a much better idea!!!!!
We live in a kleptocracy. It’s so plain and simple.
The powers that be were almost certainly financially supported by the ones making the actual profit here, so I think they were probably more than a little aware
My buddy showed me how he sometimes bets when he doesn't have enough time or just wants to throw $5 on a game but has zero idea about the sport or teams involved.
There's a button that auto generates a bet for you. The app picks your bet, you're literally trusting the house with your money and letting them decide which side of the bet they want to push. It's fucking crazy that some people will bet like that just to get a betting investment on a game.
"If I can bet in the sport/game, I'll be able to watch whatever you out in front of me" was his reasoning
Back in 2019 I was gambling using bitcoin on Argentinian sites. They weren’t even shady, but it took effort to deposit and withdraw. I honestly think the US was better off that way.
Edit. Now that I think about it they had some good customer service too lol. There was one time a line was just straight up wrong and they refunded me.
Sports betting is one thing. Online sports betting is something else. At least if you have the cash in hand and talking to people, you could potentially control yourself. The online stuff? You're literally not paying attention. It's a click of a button and...poof. There goes three grand.
When gambling was first legalized I didn’t really have much of a problem with it. I’ve always been able to gamble “responsibly” and it can be fun to have a little bit riding on a game. But then I read about this woman in Australia and it really helped gambling addiction “click” for me. I had always assumed gambling addiction was about greed and self-control: people wanting more, more, more money and not being able to walk away. But this woman was so addicted to gambling that she wasn’t even really gambling—she was playing a gambling “simulation” game that she fully knew would NEVER pay out real, actual cash—and yet she was still unable to control her addiction to the point that she was embezzling from her employer to play the game (again, knowing it wasn’t possible for her to “win it back”) and she was letting it automatically run overnight while she slept.
Obviously stealing money from people is wrong and she shouldn’t have done that but I think it just goes to show that no sane person would risk blowing up their whole life and going to prison for the chance to win… nothing. Some pixels on a screen? She’s obviously an extreme case but it’s very clear that the dopamine hit from winning a bet doesn’t affect us all the same way. But the industry likes to perpetuate the “self control” and “responsibility” angles because it absolves them of their responsibility and lets them pretend their profits aren’t derived primarily from the exploitation of people dealing with addiction.
They knew, gambling had been an issue for over 100 years at this point in the USA, and it takes so much to even allow a casino to be built. It's a matter of time before fixed performances become much more common. Alot of us knew better when a ton of sports betting apps, and ads popped up everywhere,now you can't escape them.
Especially with instant gratification. I wouldn't say just gambling addictions but people who probably aren't as busy like other people (no kids and/or pets) and probably still have a lot of money to spend despite the raise in loving cost. In other words people are just bored.
Kind of why im really concerned when you see restrictions towards NSFW material or start hiding digital media like games. As messed up and unhealthy those things may be, it was a deterrent that kept consumers in check rather than leave them to their devices and go do dumb crap like rob a store or go play froggy on the road.
It’s nice that they got people used to predatory mobile games first, where spending their money lets them beat a level or advance on a leaderboard. Now, the dopamine hit they already crave from spending money on an app can pay out on a $500 win. Much better dopamine hit and it justifies spending $1,000 dollars on the app. Plus, it’s classy and you can talk about it with your boss.
Betting/gambling of all types has never been pushed so hard and been so accesible before.
Their marketing's main focus sometimes is not even the "easy money" or the quick dopamine fix, but the illusion that everyone cool/smart is doing it and if you aren't you're a dork. It's literally the 70s cigarette ads all over again.
Gen Z and Gen Alpha, and young Millenials are playing with the whole deck stacked against them
That is a killable offence ngl, it’s one thing stealing 12k it’s another stealing it to gamble cause most likely it’s just poof gone, can’t even sell it back to recoup the money.
It’s not the same tho. If you buy something tangible, that’s an asset and you can recoup some of your losses. With gambling it’s literally gone without a trace. Kinda what the person said before but maybe you don’t get the difference?
Yeah why aren’t you considering the extremely plausible hypothetical that he stole 12k so that he could put it into tangible assets that can be resold for the same amount, most people that steal that much money usually use it to make sound investments
Obviously you would never get the whole 12k back or even like half of it, but there’s the possibility to get at least a few thousand of it back by reselling if they bought designer clothes or jewelry or something like some people do. I’d rather have the chance of some amount repayment than nothing.
Nah the original comment is right. If you steal 12k from me to buy a car or even go on vacation, I want you to go to jail. If you steal 12k from me to gamble, I want you to a die a slow death.
One person knows they stole all that money, and either knows it's wrong or just doesn't care.
The other will tell you they didn't really steal it, try to justify why it's okay, and will tell you that they'll give it back with interest and you should be thanking them for investing it for you.
The second is significantly more infuriating, because it's gaslighting. Takes it from "I want you to be punished for your wrongs" to "I want you to suffer because it will satisfy my bloodlust."
It might be a hot take but I don’t think this is a killable offense. I think people are way too loose with taking someone’s life. I know there are people who would kill over this but I don’t think that’s the level it should be. Just jail that mf for many many years
Unpopular opinion but allowing gambling via our electronic devices is a huge mistake. Talk about opening the Pandora's Box of gambling addiction. Lord help people chasing loses.
Its unpopular amongst sports fans and the legislators who were lobbied to legalize it.
Like everything, follow the money. The casinos lobbied and donated to politicians nationwide on both sides of the aisle to achieve this. They sold us out for some campaign contributions. Like they always do.
I mean... I know all of that. But most common folks are unhappy about this. So my comment certainly stands in terms of the community here. There are probably not many legislators lurking in this sub. Though im sure there are a few.
My country has allowed online betting and we have a big problem, almost every week news comes out about someone who lost their home and their family left. And to make matters worse, there are lots of famous people here advertising, things are going from bad to worse.
I hate how people act like gambling has always been in the forefront of media and society. It really hasn't. There were definitely gambling ads and mentions of it in media, but if you have any interest in sports, you basically cannot escape it now. People tell you to just not participate. If it were that easy to avoid things bad for you, we wouldn't have alcoholics.
I have absolutely zero interest in sports, nor gambling, yet I have been inundated. I am a 30 year old mom, not even close to the target demographic and I feel like I don’t go 15 minutes without seeing the ads. You don’t have to be into sports to not be able to escape it, it’s crazy. I’ve changed my google settings to shut it off, need to figure it out here on Reddit too
It is one thing when you have to affirmatively get in your car, go down to Atlantic City or whatever, and sit in a smoky seedy casino to gamble. There are plenty of opportunities and signs during that process to turn back or rethink your decisions. Being able to do so while taking a piss break during a commercial removes almost all of the mental and physical barriers and is insanely pernicious, especially to addictive personalities.
"It is one thing when you have to affirmatively get in your car, go down to Atlantic City or whatever, and sit in a smoky seedy casino to gamble"
And that is exactly what I mean. It is one thing to get in my car and drive to Bolixi or the Carolinas to place a bet. But to just wake up and place bets on my phone is a very dangerous slope.
I've gambled professionally for the past 20 years and I can assure you that you are 100% correct. Gambling has been my livelihood for my entire adult life, but if you put it to a vote tomorrow, I would 100% vote to make sure that that NO ONE SHOULD HAVE A CASINO IN THEIR POCKET.
When you had to go to Vegas or jump through a bunch of crypto hoops to gamble, it kept the general population away from it. Now, it's a couple clicks away and people who would have never even considered gambling have developed serious problems.
Lives ruined by gambling don't leave behind the kind of clear, measurable data like drugs (overdoses) and guns (homicide/suicide rates), but I can assure all of you that this country's gambling problem is FAR, FAR worse than is being reported right now and it's going to continue to get worse because a lot of rich people are getting richer off it.
"babe i swear there was a guy saying to bet everything on LeBron scoring 10 points every game IT WAS 1297 IN A ROW HOW WAS I SUPPOSED TO KNOW HED PASS"
We gotta bring back bookies man. It’s too easy to lose your net worth with a few phone taps.
At least if you’re betting with a gentleman in a tracksuit taking your bets in a notebook with the juice running, you’re gonna think twice before you have a stutter step.
I was a bookie in college, not like THAT but I ran a gambling op across multiple dorms. Good times a simpler time when you weren’t betting on every second of every game
People need their knees broke again like there used to be real consequences to this. Like the sopranos episode where Tony took the gambling addicts whole family business, cars, everything. It got way too comfy for people to ruin lives with this off a phone game app
I have a coworker who is a gambling addict who has told me stories of his bookie’s “muscle” showing up to his apartment to collect. He said the guy tries to act like he’s your buddy first to see if you have any money or collateral to hand over. If you don’t, you’re screwed. I’m just like “man…what a life!” lol
I have a buddy in car sales. Buyers will legitimately bring in people they just met off dating apps as their co-signer because they have a 800 score between the two of them…
You’ve not had experience with gamblers? This is pretty normal. He had to keep taking out to try and make up for what he already stole. This is basically how bookies work.
I pray for every woman that ends up with a man that presses for money to fuel his addiction, these people swear they're about to hit the big one every time, anytime anything big comes their way, they'll just blow it all regardless, and lie to themselves swearing they can earn it back...
One of the interviews he showed was a woman who I think was in close to a quarter million in debt. He was speaking to how they basically make you a premium client. Which comes with perks to keep you betting even if you’re severely in debt; which they knew about in this case because she called a hotline to get help. Anyway one of the perks was sideline passes and tickets to a football game. Her son was so happy and excited about going, even asked if she got here cuz of gambling
It will affect future generations. Similar to influencers who are faking/ scamming, and kids thinking it’s all real. They’ll have a warped perspective
It’s only gonna get worse if they don’t start regulating that shit. Kids are seeing it all over the sports they’re watching, my nephews understood the concept of a parlay before they understood what an onside kick was.
I'll goof around at a casino every few years, but that $50-100 is as good as gone the second I walk into the joint. There's zero expectation to make that money back. In my entire life, I think I've spent ...$50 on scratch-its. It's just not healthy. I'd rather get a 40oz, or an ⅛ than throw my money away to gambling. Feel horrible for the people so invested in that, that they mindlessly spend thousands at a shiny box, or app. Online gambling is sinister, evil, corrupt, and every other bad word in the book.
When you turn 5 into 500, then 5 to 1000+ it's incredibly easy to get hooked and not realize you poofed that amount right back to them before you can look back up from the phone. I'm extremely grateful to have learned before I did anything like this to ruin all my relationships. Be careful set limits, or just don't do it. Its ruined sports for me I can't help but see how easy it would be to convince millionaires to just drop the ball, or say your hurt right at a certain number or just bench players when there is no reason to whatsoever when they are close to hitting numbers. In the case of football funny how some players never get targeted even when wide open for the remainder of certain games. Stuff that seems a little fishy 🐟
We went to a horse track when I was in college (back when you were excited by your paycheck after working 15 hours a week for an on-campus job), and even losing $80 was so discouraging lol. I hope to never get into gambling.
Stupid story my dad has told through the years. Back right after I was born (mid-late 80s) all his boys wanted to go to the horsetrack for a fun day of revelry. Mom said sure, but you gotta take my older sister cuz I was still very much a baby and she didn’t want to have to juggle. Dad reluctantly agreed and off they went.
So dad brought 20 bucks with him (which was a fair amount in the 80s, specially for a family 4 to lose). And he wasn’t doing great by the 3rd race so he started asking my sister who was a toddler at the time which ones she wanted to bet on. She went by colors because again, toddler.
Dad won, and won again, and kept winning. To the point where his boys started taking my sisters advice.
Dad walked away with about 500 bucks, came home and gave 300 to Mom saying it was all because of my sister. Used the rest over the course of a year whenever he was going out to have a beer with the boys.
Now Pops gambles on pick em pools mostly, never got into it. But I feel the takeaway is that gambling is so random and chaotic that a toddler can succeed shows how much a fallacy it truly is.
Like I’ve been on those apps to mess around with the free money but after that, yall got it. I know there’s a rush for ppl to see what they could win but I’m not in the habit of lighting money on fire.
Worked for one of these betting apps from 2023-24 man it’s crazy how bad gambling addicts will get. I can guarantee there’s no way they’re gonna give any of that back money back to her. They’ll permanently ban the account , and because of that it’ll get reported to the gaming commission but thats it. She needs to file a police report and try to maybe charge it back or something
They are quick to take from your account but want you to jump through hoops to cash out your winnings. I still haven’t received my winnings from last year’s Super Bowl.
As someone who works at a video poker "den". I've seen people put rent money into the machines and leave crying. Don't gamble folks. They hide behind "for entertainment purposes only" but they know what the fuck they're doing. First time you gamble, if you spend 20 and win 40. Leave and never come back. The house always wins.
I thank God every day I cant form habits because Lord knows for all good it would do me in terms of organisation, Id have been a gambling fiend, because if you give me a chance and some runway, I'll bet on Russian u21 Ice Hockey...
I just cant remember to keep gambling
Yeah, everyone is fucking stoked about being able to gamble online until a friend/lovedone/etc. steals a year's savings from you and the Gambling house they sent it to is like, "Tough Titty, Smitty". Fuuuuuuucc.....
People look at me crazy when I tell them I have never signed up for any of these online betting apps. I’m good.
Smart. There’s a reason they spot you 2-300$.
Like a drug dealer giving you the first hit of heroin for free
Puttin testers out
Got them WMD!!!
I heard the WMD is the bomb
"What's this here?"
"My wedding ring."
"Shit, you married to the needle, boy! That shit's been pawned over for real. Dead giveaway."
I love the Wire.
Sometimes it can be a gas
Ayo, I got that PANDEMIC!
Blue tops! Got them blue tops!
Red tops!!!!
Omar coming.
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No joking. Yes. Exactly this
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"God damn the pusher man" became the advertising ethos of a whole entire industry
Not like, that’s exactly what it is.
And they will give you worse props if you win too much
No more late night trips to the corner store for scratchers or the casino. Now gambling is in your pocket constantly pushing you new "deals" that will drain your bank account
And always pushing parlays because people see the potential payout and their eyes get big. But they almost never hit. If you’ve got a 50/50 chance of winning an individual bet and you bet a three-leg parlay, your chances of winning are 12.5%. For a four-leg parlay, you’ve got a 6.25% chance. So you could bet 10 four-leg parlays and still, statistically speaking, very reasonably lose every single one.
I mostly have no idea what you just said which is how I know I have no business with this shit. I’m good.
Basically choices with 50/50 odds each. One leg means one 50/50 and two is two 50/50s. The odds halve each time, so it goes from 50% to 25% to 12.5% and so on.
Also yeah, don’t gamble.
If you have a 50/50 chance on a bet, there are two outcomes: win or lose. If you have a 50/50 chance on two unrelated bets, there are four outcomes: win-win, win-lose, lose-win, lose-lose. In a parlay, you have to win both, so there is a 25% chance of winning, as the other three options result in a loss on the overall bet. As you repeat that process, there is still only one result that makes you win the parlay (winning them all) but you increase the outcomes that result in a loss each time you require an additional win. So, the net effect is cutting your likelihood of winning the parlay in half every time you add in another 50/50 bet. Idk if this helps but maybe it will. It’s basic statistics but I totally understand and respect that it’s over many people’s heads and it confused me for a while.
Basically greater chances of losing ALL, fewer chances of winning ALL.
To find the percentage chance of a string of events happening, you multiple the odds of all events together.
So 50/50 bet, which has another leg that is also 50/50, would be a 25% chance to win.
The longer string of events, or I suppose "parlays", the less your odds of winning get.
It can get so ridiculous that you legitimately have a better chance of winning the actual powerball gazillionaire lottery than any of your sports bets.
Wait wait wait. So basically instead of betting that the coin will land on heads, you're betting that you can predict the outcome of, let's say, 4 coin flips in order?
Basically, although you can create parlays that are more dependent. Like, I bet that the Bills will cover and Josh Allen will throw for 300+. Still very risky.
This is exactly it. With sports betting, people just feel they know enough to know which coin flip will be which. It sounds insane to bet your money on four consecutive flips being: heads, tails, tails, heads. But that’s exactly what a parlay is. The odds are designed to be 50/50 so the bookmakers make money regardless based on their fees. That’s why betting lines shift when significantly more money is on one side than the other.
Exactly this. I had a physical therapist that was hooked on parlays. Good dude, but sometimes I wonder if he even heard himself
He'd be mumbling about how some random school like Idaho State "blew it for me"
Bruh... What conference does that school even plan in? What's their mascot? They get you to bet on schools and players you know (Alabama, ND, etc) and then you have to convince yourself you know ball and how Mid Tennessee State will fair against Central Illinois or something
That’s what gets me more than anything. Mfers be betting on players and teams they know nothing about and then have the shocked pikachu face when their parlay blows up in their face
When I was a kid my family went to Reno for Superbowl weekend every year.
Every year we would all bet CRAZY $1.00-$2.00 parlays that would pay like 1000:1. In 15 years of going I hit a crazy parlay once and won $2000. But in 15 years of going and at least 10 of us making crazy bets only like 3 of us ever won a bet.
But is was all fun, and almost impossible to get addicted on that once a year game.
Ya doing that shit for the Super Bowl or running a $100 on a few Trifectas and Superfectas on the KY Derby is all in good fun.
But when people can do that shit all day long, everyday on their phone, it will have bad consequences. No one that is a semi-competent sports better bets parlays. And by semi-competent, I mean someone that the amount lost will be only the price of entertainment in a not unhealthy way.
This is why I always preferred poker when I was still playing. Even though the cards coming off the deck were pretty much as random as could be, I could control whether or not I played any particular hand and could push through or fold based on cues from my opponents. There's way more control in that than just some football players in a whole other state playing against each other with an infinite amount of variables. I did pretty good with the poker for about 10 years but then kids and life got in the way which honestly was probably the healthiest thing for me. I was doing well enough that I was kind of getting too big for my britches and starting to risk more than I could afford to lose but because I kept winning it just seemed like I was in total control of everything. Luckily I never truly lost my ass so I feel pretty fortunate that I got out when I did. I haven't been back to the casino since then I don't plan on going back even though the kids are all out of the house.
This math right here is why I don't gamble and never have. I'm still chasing the high from a $34 lotto win back in 1987.
Same! I thought I'd like blackjack. Set aside a small budget ($200) knowing if I lost all of it I could still pay all my bills.
Land in Vegas, having a blast with family, hit a physical table. Lost twice before my free drink even made it. Just got up and walked away. On the last day I hit up video blackjack and got to breakeven. That was my betting career, losing that $200 made me feel sick and negatively influenced my mood the whole weekend. 0/10 won't do again
They don't change odds if you win too much, that would be illegal. They just limit the accounts of winners.
You might be right. I'm not a lawyer, but [people are questioning Link to r/sportsbook
Im up lifetime on a book and the odds havent been changed for me but they've absolutely shut the promo faucet off.
Exactly right. It's like installing a slot machine app on your phone. It's not just the gambling apps, though.
They all use the same strategies of using over-saturated colors and notifications to maintain constant engagement. I played a World of Warcraft knockoff game for far too long that did the same thing, as do dating apps like Tinder. "Investing" sites like Robinhood and Coinbase too.
They're ALL trying to maintain engagement, as well as monetize that engagement.
I don't like gambling at all so I risked signing up for free money. Bet it all on one game per app. Literally lost on all but one. On the one, I think I made $200, cashed out, and uninstalled them all.
Haven't looked back.
This only worked for me because gambling makes me sooo uncomfortable. Even with play money, I didn't enjoy it. I have no desire to try again.
I'd rather play poker in Red Dead Redemption 2 if I want to gamble with play money. lol
but its $25 to enter! That's highway robbery!
I have a similar story I was on vacation with my then girlfriend. She wanted to go to the casino, we both gambled $60, she came back for another $20. I hit on the slots for $500. Cashed out and waited around. Haven’t gambled since.
You are one of the few that made money of gambling. You beat the system, congrats
I feel the same way. The prospect of losing money scares me much more than the prospect of winning money excites me. I did some sports betting in college and losing $200 through that scared me off of it for good
And there’s always weird stipulations with that shit too. Like you can’t actually cash it out, you gotta use it for more bets. Just a matter of time until you lose. They’ve got you hooked with almost no risk to themselves. Shit is parasitic
I joined two or three sports gambling apps during the NBA Finals last year, did the absolute minimum play to get those fat "hook 'em deep" bonuses, bet those, won a few hundred bucks, then cashed out and deleted the apps. Gambling is ruining sports, fuck those guys.
I’m down about $180k chasing those same $200–300 promos. My account history makes theirs look like a church donation. Finally tapped out…balance $0.00.
Get help
Brother
That’s why you use bet matching websites to game a couple thousand bucks out of all the promos in your state and then delete the apps after you’re done. lol I got like $7000 back in 2022 doing them all in my state and two others nearby on apps that had different books in each state at the time
you gotta do like ten bets to cash that out or some shit
That's exactly what I did. Deposited $5 to get the $300 "free money" to play with. Eventually cashed out $45 and un-installed the app.
I was a nervous wreck the entire time, I can't imagine doing that shit weekly/daily with my own actual money. But I know so many people that'll put half their paycheck on a $50,000 parlay that's basically like hitting the lottery the odds are so astronomical.
and you still lost like 85% of that shit. imagine if you ran hot. made 3 bills paid tuition or rent for 2 months, you'd be telling everyone.
They just came to my state. I signed up, bet with the $300 in free bets, then cashed out my $350 in winnings. Never going back unless I can do the same thing again.
I'm not a gambler at all. So me and my wife sign up for the free money bonuses. Make pretend we are at Vegas and cash out when we made the minimum to withdraw. Last time I lost the free $25 and she made the free $25 + $13 in winnings and withdrew lol.
Imagine gambling. Couldn’t be me. 😇
I lost $5 during a bet I made as a kid. Shits still haunts me to this day.
I can’t imagine looking at my reflection after losing THOUSANDS that’s not even mine…
I’m saying! As a kid, I played skeeball at Showbiz Pizza once, didn’t get enough tickets for anything good, and I was DONE, okay 😂 edited because my old ass remembered the actual name of the place 👵🏽
Now you got dudes putting their rent money in a parlay.
Sports betting hit the nation like crack in the 80s lol
Just like the best outlook in war is to view yourself as already dead, you view your rent money as already spent.
Financial analysts hate this one trick
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You ain't lying and the worst part is that somehow it's seen as normal and ok to be out here gambling on everything.
I’ll play craps once a year at a real casino because it’s fun throwing dice, and if you hit, everyone wins.
But I’m not parlaying money on ‘the number of farts per meter per second divided by yards thrown’ before halftime.
Used to be, to be a real degenerate gambler, you had to go to Vegas for the weekend and never check into a hotel because you were at the tables the entire time.
Now, they'll let you do that shit in your own bed.
Insane.
For $100 you can have a fun night at a casino that will pay for your drinks. Occasionally you might even win money. Anything beyond doing that once in a while is too degenerate for me.
Not anymore you cant. I live in vegas. $100 gets you maaaaybe 20 minutes of gambling. MAYBE. Definitely not at a table, they're all $10 minimums. With that 100, you dont even get a drink anymore, cause the waitresses dont come around that fast. Playing video poker at the bar wont help, because now they've made it so that theres a little LED under each machine that shows when you've coined in enough to get a "free drink" and the bartender cant comp one until it says they can.
God help you if you want a snack. $3-8 for a bag of doritos, so they can say that its a value to get a fresh made burger with fries for $25 plus tax.
"Just go off strip" - Locals casinos are just slot machines and video poker. Those video poker machines MIGHT have blackjack and keno on them. Fremont is similar to the strip, but they've kept the prices slightly lower, agian so you can 'feel' like you're getting a deal.
Casinos have learned that us plebs arent worth catering to anymore. Just cater to the whales, they'll keep you raking in the cash. Whales dont balk at $20 burgers. Thats why F1 is so popular with the casino leadership but so unpopular with the actual losers like me who live here.
Yuuuup went to Las Vegas once and lost. That was it for me in one lifetime.
I can’t imagine the people that look at you like YOU are the crazy one because you DON’T use betting apps. Gotta wonder how much of their income is disappearing every week on parlays or whatever…thinking it’s just a matter of time before they hit it huge and can retire?
When someone is talking about how some player or game "made them a lot of money," I play along with the hype then ask, "Just curious how much have you made in total?" Of the people who aren't too embarrassed to show me, their total earnings has always been in the negative, usually somewhere between one and five grand. Gives me so much confirmation on never touching it. These companies don't exist to make you money.
There's a reason they all have huge HQ's in London, Dublin, NYC, Las Vegas, and Boston. And those HQ's have amenities barbershops and sports bars. And that reason is not providing wealth to customers
I caved this last year around the NBA playoffs. I’m a Nuggets fan and I was feeling confident + the odds were really forgiving.
I put in the minimum like $25. Lost it, bet the “free bets” money they offered when I lost. Lost that too and went “well lesson learned 🤷♂️”
Those MF have people in call centers calling to try to get you back and gambling when they see you stopped!?!?
Oh hell no, absolutely done after that. Dude offered to match whatever money I put in for the next day.
How do you sleep at night my guy? You’ve gotta see what you’re doing and DraftKings isn’t paying enough for your soul.
They are the biggest scams on the planet. If you happen to come up with a model or system that's better at predicting winners than they are and you start winning a bunch, they'll throw you off their platform.
This is exactly why I don’t do fantasy leagues with gambling. If I ever wanted to gamble that bad, I’d just take my ass down to the local native casino and pay $20 for the penny slot machines; if I end up winning some money, sweet, If not then that’s okay too.
I hate gambling. They ain’t getting me
I’ve got an account with one of the UK ones and I never use it. Got a notification this month that someone had tried to access my account so went in to change password, threw £5 in assuming they’d try and retain my custom, played £3 on virtual slots and won £70. Took it all out, not touched it since.
I had to stop. Found out I put $500 into my account since October and got $60 left to show for it 😭
I don't think the powers that be realised just what they were unleashing when they legalised sports betting. So many people have gambling addictions in this age of easy dopamine hits.
They knew. They just don't care. Their wallet is more important than some random strangers mental health.
They 100% knew. We studied this. It's why the neighborhoods kept fighting gambling and racing arenas around their communities, and the nice moneyed communities won while everyone else lost.
Making it all available online is a sign that they no longer care about their own people and their own communities.
They’d rather build bunkers.
Literally what happened in my small town in VA. There was a casino that was trying to get built in the areas around where the richer folk lived and kept getting voted out but when they finally put the vote to my city it passed on the back of " it's gonna help fund the schools and the community". It's just getting finished this year so we'll see how likely that is.
THANK YOU. If casinos are so great for the community there’d be a handful each in in Beverly Hills, Sutton Place, Tuxedo Park and Gold Coast. Surprisingly, there are not.
Mmmmm, yes, Tunica, Mississippi is now famous for their excellent schools and community.
What about Gulfport, Biloxi etc
The coast has many more forms of tourism revenue than casinos
Yup, tale as old as time. Maybe twenty years ago they got approval for a racing track on the east side of Oklahoma City on the promise and that its taxes would say in the community and go to that district's schools. The track stayed. The money did not.
A great and very current example is the new partnership between Kalshi and CNN.
Kalshi is an "exchange and prediction market for real world events." It's part of the new level of modern gambling that comes after these fucks decided that they weren't making enough money off of sports betting alone.
Now they want real-time bets and gambling on politics, in our current environment of maximum disinformation and corruption. Everything will be exploitable, because now they don't even have to uphold the premise of a fair sport with rules. And that's AFTER outsmarting govt gambling regulations.
Every ruined life from Crypto should be viewed as a microcosm for the level of grift that is now coming for all levels of illiteracy, as opposed to whatever niche was being filled by Crypto scams.
Bro, 404 Media has an article up from a few days back about bets on territory gained or lost in Ukraine. The third party map the site uses was fucking changed to close bets, and then the next day reverted back to the territory not being taken. This shit is insane.
Well you’re forgetting that it’s a personal moral failing and we definitely should not try to curb those behaviors in society. If anything we should lean into making the consequences of those behaviors worse in any way we can so long as someone gets to profit off it.
It’s just like our penal system. The goal isn’t rehabilitation and reintegration, the goal is to inflict suffering on people who are less human than us while producing value for the most valuable members of our civilization- the shareholders.
Like c’mon are you new around here?
Doing your taxes for free using a government provided tool?!!! Absurd!!!! How could we allow that? Poor turbo tax shouldn’t have to deal with the brunt of you getting to give the government money for free!
Let’s just legalize one of the timelessly most destructive behaviors known to humanity throughout our history- that’s a much better idea!!!!!
We live in a kleptocracy. It’s so plain and simple.
Yup, this.
The powers that be were almost certainly financially supported by the ones making the actual profit here, so I think they were probably more than a little aware
My buddy showed me how he sometimes bets when he doesn't have enough time or just wants to throw $5 on a game but has zero idea about the sport or teams involved.
There's a button that auto generates a bet for you. The app picks your bet, you're literally trusting the house with your money and letting them decide which side of the bet they want to push. It's fucking crazy that some people will bet like that just to get a betting investment on a game.
"If I can bet in the sport/game, I'll be able to watch whatever you out in front of me" was his reasoning
...and at the end of the day, i could still pick winners, and the bosses were happy. ~ Casino
Shit, I guess I'm watching Casino after work tonight. That movie fucks so hard
Hey I've always been told that the house always wins
Back in 2019 I was gambling using bitcoin on Argentinian sites. They weren’t even shady, but it took effort to deposit and withdraw. I honestly think the US was better off that way.
Edit. Now that I think about it they had some good customer service too lol. There was one time a line was just straight up wrong and they refunded me.
if you had video they would be in horrible shit if they didn't and I would assume half y'all are recording.
What they were doing was totally legal. They werent even taking US Dollars.
You nailed it. This era is all about quick and easy satisfaction. Gambling absolutely takes advantage of that and eats those people alive.
Sports betting is one thing. Online sports betting is something else. At least if you have the cash in hand and talking to people, you could potentially control yourself. The online stuff? You're literally not paying attention. It's a click of a button and...poof. There goes three grand.
You give them too much credit, they knew exactly what they were doing.
When gambling was first legalized I didn’t really have much of a problem with it. I’ve always been able to gamble “responsibly” and it can be fun to have a little bit riding on a game. But then I read about this woman in Australia and it really helped gambling addiction “click” for me. I had always assumed gambling addiction was about greed and self-control: people wanting more, more, more money and not being able to walk away. But this woman was so addicted to gambling that she wasn’t even really gambling—she was playing a gambling “simulation” game that she fully knew would NEVER pay out real, actual cash—and yet she was still unable to control her addiction to the point that she was embezzling from her employer to play the game (again, knowing it wasn’t possible for her to “win it back”) and she was letting it automatically run overnight while she slept.
Obviously stealing money from people is wrong and she shouldn’t have done that but I think it just goes to show that no sane person would risk blowing up their whole life and going to prison for the chance to win… nothing. Some pixels on a screen? She’s obviously an extreme case but it’s very clear that the dopamine hit from winning a bet doesn’t affect us all the same way. But the industry likes to perpetuate the “self control” and “responsibility” angles because it absolves them of their responsibility and lets them pretend their profits aren’t derived primarily from the exploitation of people dealing with addiction.
They knew, gambling had been an issue for over 100 years at this point in the USA, and it takes so much to even allow a casino to be built. It's a matter of time before fixed performances become much more common. Alot of us knew better when a ton of sports betting apps, and ads popped up everywhere,now you can't escape them.
Especially with instant gratification. I wouldn't say just gambling addictions but people who probably aren't as busy like other people (no kids and/or pets) and probably still have a lot of money to spend despite the raise in loving cost. In other words people are just bored.
Kind of why im really concerned when you see restrictions towards NSFW material or start hiding digital media like games. As messed up and unhealthy those things may be, it was a deterrent that kept consumers in check rather than leave them to their devices and go do dumb crap like rob a store or go play froggy on the road.
The powers that be were fully aware, it’s called market research. Addiction is very profitable.
It’s nice that they got people used to predatory mobile games first, where spending their money lets them beat a level or advance on a leaderboard. Now, the dopamine hit they already crave from spending money on an app can pay out on a $500 win. Much better dopamine hit and it justifies spending $1,000 dollars on the app. Plus, it’s classy and you can talk about it with your boss.
Betting/gambling of all types has never been pushed so hard and been so accesible before.
Their marketing's main focus sometimes is not even the "easy money" or the quick dopamine fix, but the illusion that everyone cool/smart is doing it and if you aren't you're a dork. It's literally the 70s cigarette ads all over again.
Gen Z and Gen Alpha, and young Millenials are playing with the whole deck stacked against them
You dont understand its high volume high bets - he’s going to win it all back this weekend
‘The powers that be’ are shareholders in these companies.
That is a killable offence ngl, it’s one thing stealing 12k it’s another stealing it to gamble cause most likely it’s just poof gone, can’t even sell it back to recoup the money.
Its the same regardless. 12k is 12k.
The effect is the same, the principle is the same, the stress and shock is the same.
This is why I voted against sports betting. It has no value and destroys lives.
It’s not the same tho. If you buy something tangible, that’s an asset and you can recoup some of your losses. With gambling it’s literally gone without a trace. Kinda what the person said before but maybe you don’t get the difference?
Yeah why aren’t you considering the extremely plausible hypothetical that he stole 12k so that he could put it into tangible assets that can be resold for the same amount, most people that steal that much money usually use it to make sound investments
Obviously you would never get the whole 12k back or even like half of it, but there’s the possibility to get at least a few thousand of it back by reselling if they bought designer clothes or jewelry or something like some people do. I’d rather have the chance of some amount repayment than nothing.
Nah the original comment is right. If you steal 12k from me to buy a car or even go on vacation, I want you to go to jail. If you steal 12k from me to gamble, I want you to a die a slow death.
One person knows they stole all that money, and either knows it's wrong or just doesn't care.
The other will tell you they didn't really steal it, try to justify why it's okay, and will tell you that they'll give it back with interest and you should be thanking them for investing it for you.
The second is significantly more infuriating, because it's gaslighting. Takes it from "I want you to be punished for your wrongs" to "I want you to suffer because it will satisfy my bloodlust."
It might be a hot take but I don’t think this is a killable offense. I think people are way too loose with taking someone’s life. I know there are people who would kill over this but I don’t think that’s the level it should be. Just jail that mf for many many years
A lot of ppl would kill for 12k
Right circumstances and 2 might have you at the end of a short day.
Even if he wins and has the money to pay back, do you think she'll ever see it? He'll just gamble more since he won
People get killed for way less.
Unpopular opinion but allowing gambling via our electronic devices is a huge mistake. Talk about opening the Pandora's Box of gambling addiction. Lord help people chasing loses.
I dont think thats an unpopular opinion actually.
It's only unpopular if you're a legislator.
Its unpopular amongst sports fans and the legislators who were lobbied to legalize it.
Like everything, follow the money. The casinos lobbied and donated to politicians nationwide on both sides of the aisle to achieve this. They sold us out for some campaign contributions. Like they always do.
I mean... I know all of that. But most common folks are unhappy about this. So my comment certainly stands in terms of the community here. There are probably not many legislators lurking in this sub. Though im sure there are a few.
My country has allowed online betting and we have a big problem, almost every week news comes out about someone who lost their home and their family left. And to make matters worse, there are lots of famous people here advertising, things are going from bad to worse.
It's in the songs
In every television advertisement
Online websites
Telephone operators sending messages about
Ours is the same in the US but no one publishes the news about the losses. RIP
I hate how people act like gambling has always been in the forefront of media and society. It really hasn't. There were definitely gambling ads and mentions of it in media, but if you have any interest in sports, you basically cannot escape it now. People tell you to just not participate. If it were that easy to avoid things bad for you, we wouldn't have alcoholics.
I have absolutely zero interest in sports, nor gambling, yet I have been inundated. I am a 30 year old mom, not even close to the target demographic and I feel like I don’t go 15 minutes without seeing the ads. You don’t have to be into sports to not be able to escape it, it’s crazy. I’ve changed my google settings to shut it off, need to figure it out here on Reddit too
It is one thing when you have to affirmatively get in your car, go down to Atlantic City or whatever, and sit in a smoky seedy casino to gamble. There are plenty of opportunities and signs during that process to turn back or rethink your decisions. Being able to do so while taking a piss break during a commercial removes almost all of the mental and physical barriers and is insanely pernicious, especially to addictive personalities.
"It is one thing when you have to affirmatively get in your car, go down to Atlantic City or whatever, and sit in a smoky seedy casino to gamble"
And that is exactly what I mean. It is one thing to get in my car and drive to Bolixi or the Carolinas to place a bet. But to just wake up and place bets on my phone is a very dangerous slope.
The craziest part to me is that some states allow you to gamble using credit card charges! This shits only gonna get worse LONG before it gets better.
I've gambled professionally for the past 20 years and I can assure you that you are 100% correct. Gambling has been my livelihood for my entire adult life, but if you put it to a vote tomorrow, I would 100% vote to make sure that that NO ONE SHOULD HAVE A CASINO IN THEIR POCKET.
When you had to go to Vegas or jump through a bunch of crypto hoops to gamble, it kept the general population away from it. Now, it's a couple clicks away and people who would have never even considered gambling have developed serious problems.
Lives ruined by gambling don't leave behind the kind of clear, measurable data like drugs (overdoses) and guns (homicide/suicide rates), but I can assure all of you that this country's gambling problem is FAR, FAR worse than is being reported right now and it's going to continue to get worse because a lot of rich people are getting richer off it.
Unpopular opinion among addicts.
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"babe i swear there was a guy saying to bet everything on LeBron scoring 10 points every game IT WAS 1297 IN A ROW HOW WAS I SUPPOSED TO KNOW HED PASS"
This is the worst thing to ever happen on the 7 of December
We gotta bring back bookies man. It’s too easy to lose your net worth with a few phone taps.
At least if you’re betting with a gentleman in a tracksuit taking your bets in a notebook with the juice running, you’re gonna think twice before you have a stutter step.
And you can’t bet on every play, how many assists a random ass guard will get on a Tuesday night, or who will have the first interception.
I was a bookie in college, not like THAT but I ran a gambling op across multiple dorms. Good times a simpler time when you weren’t betting on every second of every game
People need their knees broke again like there used to be real consequences to this. Like the sopranos episode where Tony took the gambling addicts whole family business, cars, everything. It got way too comfy for people to ruin lives with this off a phone game app
I have a coworker who is a gambling addict who has told me stories of his bookie’s “muscle” showing up to his apartment to collect. He said the guy tries to act like he’s your buddy first to see if you have any money or collateral to hand over. If you don’t, you’re screwed. I’m just like “man…what a life!” lol
Ain't no way this dude finessed someone to let him bet 12k on draftkings
it sounds like he basically stole her credit card and then racked up charges
she should file a police report for theft
I have a buddy in car sales. Buyers will legitimately bring in people they just met off dating apps as their co-signer because they have a 800 score between the two of them…
the reason I have an 800 is I don't do dumb shit like that.
But in my defense, she did put that thang on me. Credit be damned.
Worked with an old guy who consigned for a hooters girl and of course ended up making the payments when she quit and disappeared in her new car.
You’ve not had experience with gamblers? This is pretty normal. He had to keep taking out to try and make up for what he already stole. This is basically how bookies work.
Stuff like this is why I never signed up for those betting apps
Also — this is why I'm grateful I'm single, and will choose to be this way for quite some time
Good lord 😮💨 🤧
This is an excellent reason to either be single or to not share bank accounts.
I pray for every woman that ends up with a man that presses for money to fuel his addiction, these people swear they're about to hit the big one every time, anytime anything big comes their way, they'll just blow it all regardless, and lie to themselves swearing they can earn it back...
I have a friend who recently discovered his wife lost over $80k to online gambling. I have no idea how I’d react in his shoes
Honestly that’s grounds for an annulment of the marriage because WTF
If it’s free, YOU’RE the product.
If they spot you a boatload of money, YOU’RE the bank.
This shit is an epidemic
John Olivier did a report on it
One of the interviews he showed was a woman who I think was in close to a quarter million in debt. He was speaking to how they basically make you a premium client. Which comes with perks to keep you betting even if you’re severely in debt; which they knew about in this case because she called a hotline to get help. Anyway one of the perks was sideline passes and tickets to a football game. Her son was so happy and excited about going, even asked if she got here cuz of gambling
It will affect future generations. Similar to influencers who are faking/ scamming, and kids thinking it’s all real. They’ll have a warped perspective
It’s only gonna get worse if they don’t start regulating that shit. Kids are seeing it all over the sports they’re watching, my nephews understood the concept of a parlay before they understood what an onside kick was.
“all he talks about is sports and the spread. How was I suppose to know he had a gambling addiction?” 😂
I'll goof around at a casino every few years, but that $50-100 is as good as gone the second I walk into the joint. There's zero expectation to make that money back. In my entire life, I think I've spent ...$50 on scratch-its. It's just not healthy. I'd rather get a 40oz, or an ⅛ than throw my money away to gambling. Feel horrible for the people so invested in that, that they mindlessly spend thousands at a shiny box, or app. Online gambling is sinister, evil, corrupt, and every other bad word in the book.
I lost $50 at the casino in 20 minutes. I told my wife it’s time to go
My wife won $20 within 30 seconds on a machine and made my ass leave with her after. One reason I married her I guess.
I made like $300 off my first bet and called it quits. Never again
Report it as fraud, remove him as a beneficiary, change cards and lock it down
When you turn 5 into 500, then 5 to 1000+ it's incredibly easy to get hooked and not realize you poofed that amount right back to them before you can look back up from the phone. I'm extremely grateful to have learned before I did anything like this to ruin all my relationships. Be careful set limits, or just don't do it. Its ruined sports for me I can't help but see how easy it would be to convince millionaires to just drop the ball, or say your hurt right at a certain number or just bench players when there is no reason to whatsoever when they are close to hitting numbers. In the case of football funny how some players never get targeted even when wide open for the remainder of certain games. Stuff that seems a little fishy 🐟
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We went to a horse track when I was in college (back when you were excited by your paycheck after working 15 hours a week for an on-campus job), and even losing $80 was so discouraging lol. I hope to never get into gambling.
Stupid story my dad has told through the years. Back right after I was born (mid-late 80s) all his boys wanted to go to the horsetrack for a fun day of revelry. Mom said sure, but you gotta take my older sister cuz I was still very much a baby and she didn’t want to have to juggle. Dad reluctantly agreed and off they went.
So dad brought 20 bucks with him (which was a fair amount in the 80s, specially for a family 4 to lose). And he wasn’t doing great by the 3rd race so he started asking my sister who was a toddler at the time which ones she wanted to bet on. She went by colors because again, toddler.
Dad won, and won again, and kept winning. To the point where his boys started taking my sisters advice.
Dad walked away with about 500 bucks, came home and gave 300 to Mom saying it was all because of my sister. Used the rest over the course of a year whenever he was going out to have a beer with the boys.
Now Pops gambles on pick em pools mostly, never got into it. But I feel the takeaway is that gambling is so random and chaotic that a toddler can succeed shows how much a fallacy it truly is.
Man be careful with this, I know someone who lost they family to gambling.
Sports betting is worse than meth
I only agree because I can spot a meth head but can't spot a gambler without more context
Like I’ve been on those apps to mess around with the free money but after that, yall got it. I know there’s a rush for ppl to see what they could win but I’m not in the habit of lighting money on fire.
This is why I never gamble with my money, only my life. 😬😬😬
Get his ass for identity theft.
See we gotta learn from the old yt people.Don’t kill him, that’s gonna just be more problems for u.
Sue him, we don’t sue people anymore and that’s why all these crusty people and business think they can treat people however they want.
Hit them where it hurts, bruises heal, death is release, but garnished wages follow you forever
Worked for one of these betting apps from 2023-24 man it’s crazy how bad gambling addicts will get. I can guarantee there’s no way they’re gonna give any of that back money back to her. They’ll permanently ban the account , and because of that it’ll get reported to the gaming commission but thats it. She needs to file a police report and try to maybe charge it back or something
One time at a slot machine I bet $5 on accident instead of like a quarter or something and I about lost it. I cannot fathom losing $10k.
That’s insane.
I’m not gonna lie I’ve done a little PrizePicks here and there even won a few but I couldn’t imagine doing anything more than a 5 dollar bet.
To spend thousands (likely to lose it all) is beyond a serious issue and that man needs help and stat.
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He’s a hustler
They are quick to take from your account but want you to jump through hoops to cash out your winnings. I still haven’t received my winnings from last year’s Super Bowl.
As someone who works at a video poker "den". I've seen people put rent money into the machines and leave crying. Don't gamble folks. They hide behind "for entertainment purposes only" but they know what the fuck they're doing. First time you gamble, if you spend 20 and win 40. Leave and never come back. The house always wins.
Is this the Danish Deception?
the things people put up with just to get some slightly above average penis/vagina SMH
The crazy thing is DraftKings could literally refund this person the money and they’d not even notice, but won’t.
DELETE THEM. YOU DO NOT NEED TO MAKE MONEY OR STRESS ABOUT MONEY TO SOMETHING THAT’S SUPPOSED TO BE YOUR LEISURE TIME.
A gofundme titled “help me financially ruin him” would do wonders
I’m so glad I never enjoyed gambling
Damm
I thank God every day I cant form habits because Lord knows for all good it would do me in terms of organisation, Id have been a gambling fiend, because if you give me a chance and some runway, I'll bet on Russian u21 Ice Hockey... I just cant remember to keep gambling
Rule number one of gambling: "The house always wins".
Yeah, everyone is fucking stoked about being able to gamble online until a friend/lovedone/etc. steals a year's savings from you and the Gambling house they sent it to is like, "Tough Titty, Smitty". Fuuuuuuucc.....