I saw the first phase went up, and the land across the street's been cleared, but I don't see progress on building the second phase. Did the financing run out? Or are they waiting for Phase 1 to fill up? Anyone know?
The original timeline was around like 8 years of construction from what I remember and we’re only a year or so past the opening of the first building. It’s a really large, really complex development and stuff like this just takes a while to get done. So I’m not even sure that it’s that far off schedule tbh. But things could’ve changed, idk
Things take time. After clearing the land it needs to be graded, surveyed, utilities marked and addressed, and a whole host of other things before you get to pouring concrete.
Big project, of the sort where you never believe the timeline you first read, but I think it was supposed to be completed around this time. My understanding, it was supposed to be mixed use and mixed income. However interest rates spiked since they first started on this thing (not sure what the financing structure was) and in the interim a lot more smaller projects created additional housing units of a similar character. I'd heard Park Place (the redevelopment of the Central City housing projects nearly two decades ago, downtown near the Library / County courthouse) was supposed to be mixed income and ended up being entirely subsidized and non-diverse. (I could be wrong because I didn't live here when this was being developed). Hopefully that idea was just ahead of its time, and a better implementation of the mixed income concept can be achieved, because, when done successfully, I'm given to believe such projects ultimately elevate both the broader community and the specific families receiving subsidies.
Yes it's supposed to be mixed-use and mixed-income, which I adamantly support. It's also such a central location to the city that it's really important to be developed properly.
Just looked it up, it’s public housing…so hopefully it never gets completed. Just what the city needs more hotspots for crime. As I understand it crime in southside was greatly reduced when this was tore down…why on earth they’d want to build it back I have no idea.
It’s actually supposed to be a mixed income, mixed use development and actually most of the units will be market rate, only a portion of the units are being developed for affordable housing. The first building that went up is a senior housing complex (not exactly a “criminal” element). The whole area will also have a mix of retail and office/ medical research space with green space mixed in. If you think this kind of development (shown in rendering below with RME in foreground) is going to bring in more crime, it just won’t. This redevelopment is potentially one of the biggest game changers for that area of downtown in decades. Hopefully it DOES get completed rather than sitting as wasted vacant land.
Are they going to be set up for mixed living like Park Place which is what replaced Central City? If so I think this is going to be a good revitalization for that area.
This redevelopment is potentially one of the biggest game changers for that area of downtown in decades.
It's a good thing, but lets not get ahead of ourself here.
I'm weary of any lead developer who says something like "regardless of income bracket, someone should have a super nice place to live and we're gonna deliver that product."
Another project developer talks of how they went over budget to make sure the buildings are "safe and secure."
Not sure if they've started the "senior" side but a year ago the timeline had it being completed in march 2025.
That’s the quote that’s the dead giveaway what the real plan is. It’s going to be a very nice looking housing project and will reign misery on everyone that lives around it. So we will all get to subsidize them terrorizing our neighborhoods. If you want to build low income housing build it in low income areas keep the crime where it currently is.
It's not going to be a housing project. It's going to be a way to get UAB students and faculty closer to the campus and push out any residents who were there before sans a few chosen older women is my guess.
I didn’t interpret the quote that way. I interpreted it as “we’re spending a lot of money on this project so like 1 out of every 10 units will be affordable housing so we can claim that we’re being equitable and community oriented.” In reality this redevelopment shoves a ton of low income people out of the area and there was a lot of noise made about that years ago when this was first announced. They were all given the vouchers to move into existing public housing within city limits or into housing in totally different parts of the state. You’re not like cracking the code on this man, you’re just an uninformed moron.
Well there is a difference between random vacant lots around town and a massive empty space in one location. I guess you could commit a crime there but you’d be pretty lonely and it would probably be easy to see you do it.
Financing has dried up for the time being. They’re hoping to get phase 2 complete by 2035 and the entire project done by 2042 or so. Losing their status as a banking hub is creating challenges for the city.
Hey hey hey, there’s this former coach thats running for the highest public office seat in the state that just promised to make Birmingham THE southeastern financial hub!
…..Man, when you say it aloud like that it seems even worse than it is.
The original timeline was around like 8 years of construction from what I remember and we’re only a year or so past the opening of the first building. It’s a really large, really complex development and stuff like this just takes a while to get done. So I’m not even sure that it’s that far off schedule tbh. But things could’ve changed, idk
Thanks for the informative response.
Things take time. After clearing the land it needs to be graded, surveyed, utilities marked and addressed, and a whole host of other things before you get to pouring concrete.
Big project, of the sort where you never believe the timeline you first read, but I think it was supposed to be completed around this time. My understanding, it was supposed to be mixed use and mixed income. However interest rates spiked since they first started on this thing (not sure what the financing structure was) and in the interim a lot more smaller projects created additional housing units of a similar character. I'd heard Park Place (the redevelopment of the Central City housing projects nearly two decades ago, downtown near the Library / County courthouse) was supposed to be mixed income and ended up being entirely subsidized and non-diverse. (I could be wrong because I didn't live here when this was being developed). Hopefully that idea was just ahead of its time, and a better implementation of the mixed income concept can be achieved, because, when done successfully, I'm given to believe such projects ultimately elevate both the broader community and the specific families receiving subsidies.
Yes it's supposed to be mixed-use and mixed-income, which I adamantly support. It's also such a central location to the city that it's really important to be developed properly.
I NEED TO WIN THE POWERBALL JACKPOT....SO I CAN 100% FUND THIS PROJECT
What is this development supposed to be anyway?
Just looked it up, it’s public housing…so hopefully it never gets completed. Just what the city needs more hotspots for crime. As I understand it crime in southside was greatly reduced when this was tore down…why on earth they’d want to build it back I have no idea.
It’s actually supposed to be a mixed income, mixed use development and actually most of the units will be market rate, only a portion of the units are being developed for affordable housing. The first building that went up is a senior housing complex (not exactly a “criminal” element). The whole area will also have a mix of retail and office/ medical research space with green space mixed in. If you think this kind of development (shown in rendering below with RME in foreground) is going to bring in more crime, it just won’t. This redevelopment is potentially one of the biggest game changers for that area of downtown in decades. Hopefully it DOES get completed rather than sitting as wasted vacant land.
https://preview.redd.it/02d93gm8qe8g1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0148fa69a031f0863012637d2f6029ca16da2773
https://edgehillbhm.com/
Are they going to be set up for mixed living like Park Place which is what replaced Central City? If so I think this is going to be a good revitalization for that area.
It's a good thing, but lets not get ahead of ourself here.
I'm weary of any lead developer who says something like "regardless of income bracket, someone should have a super nice place to live and we're gonna deliver that product." Another project developer talks of how they went over budget to make sure the buildings are "safe and secure."
Not sure if they've started the "senior" side but a year ago the timeline had it being completed in march 2025.
That’s the quote that’s the dead giveaway what the real plan is. It’s going to be a very nice looking housing project and will reign misery on everyone that lives around it. So we will all get to subsidize them terrorizing our neighborhoods. If you want to build low income housing build it in low income areas keep the crime where it currently is.
It's not going to be a housing project. It's going to be a way to get UAB students and faculty closer to the campus and push out any residents who were there before sans a few chosen older women is my guess.
I didn’t interpret the quote that way. I interpreted it as “we’re spending a lot of money on this project so like 1 out of every 10 units will be affordable housing so we can claim that we’re being equitable and community oriented.” In reality this redevelopment shoves a ton of low income people out of the area and there was a lot of noise made about that years ago when this was first announced. They were all given the vouchers to move into existing public housing within city limits or into housing in totally different parts of the state. You’re not like cracking the code on this man, you’re just an uninformed moron.
So I guess people who depend on public housing should be homeless and die in the cold then. Great, I'm sure that will reduce crime instead.
Also, our crime rates are improving so your take is a little outdated.
You’re right. Vacant lots never attract more crime. /s
Well there is a difference between random vacant lots around town and a massive empty space in one location. I guess you could commit a crime there but you’d be pretty lonely and it would probably be easy to see you do it.
You honestly have no idea what you’re talking about, and are just pulling shit out of your ass. Sit down.
Financing has dried up for the time being. They’re hoping to get phase 2 complete by 2035 and the entire project done by 2042 or so. Losing their status as a banking hub is creating challenges for the city.
Not contesting your info but curious where you heard about the new timeline?
It hasn’t been a banking hub for like 15 years, has nothing to do with any of this. lol
Hey hey hey, there’s this former coach thats running for the highest public office seat in the state that just promised to make Birmingham THE southeastern financial hub!
…..Man, when you say it aloud like that it seems even worse than it is.
Charlotte has entered the chat.
If SouthTrust, AmSouth, Colonial, and others were still around, it would be easier for the project to get the funding quicker.
All those names are blasts from the past lol
Where's a William Teller machine?
Well being that it’s public housing I think we should count our blessings and enjoy the empty lot.
2042?? Jesus, my house will almost be paid off by then 😳
The first building just opened 10/1. Don’t spread misinformation.
Yes… the FIRST building
Chill dude. It’s getting done. It’s a huge project.
Literally exactly what I said. It’s getting done, but it’ll take 10-15 years to complete.
I'm sorry, who lost their status as a banking hub and what does that have to do with financing of a housing development?